----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Watt" <wattlebee@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:26 AM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Births in South Australia > G'day listers > > I am new to family research in S A - my main research usually covers NSW, > and I have had difficulty locating SA BDM's online. Is there a website > available at all to search? Hi Julie No official on line indexes site and no consolidate indexes, just separate CDs for births deaths and marriages. Cost of copy from the SA BDM registry is $39.50 plus a whacking extra $8.10 to post. You can get transcriptions from http://www.saghs.org.au/pdf/forms/TranscriptionRequest.pdf for a far more reasonable cost of $15 Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW

Hi Lynn & Barry & Kerri Wow Thank you all for your fast replies to my query. Thanks Lynn & Kerri for your kind offer to do some look ups for me Lynn seeing as your email arrived first I'll ask you for the following please? a.. Birth for Edith Maude Middlebrough (or Muddlebrough) - parents Walter Thomas Middlebrough & Susannah Sparks b.. marriage for her parents Thank you all once again Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynne Thompson To: Julie Watt Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Births in South Australia Hi Julie There is none that I know, but if you tell me who you want I have the BDM CD's and will do some look ups for you Lynne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

G'day listers I am new to family research in S A - my main research usually covers NSW, and I have had difficulty locating SA BDM's online. Is there a website available at all to search? Thank you for your help Enjoy your day Julie NSW

?Hi Julie, Only early births (1836-1854) are online at www.familyhistorysa.info/births-marriages-deaths/births.html Cheers, Barry Leadbeater www.familyhistorysa.info -----Original Message----- From: Julie Watt Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:56 AM To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Births in South Australia G'day listers I am new to family research in S A - my main research usually covers NSW, and I have had difficulty locating SA BDM's online. Is there a website available at all to search? Thank you for your help Enjoy your day Julie NSW

This clark is my gg grandfather Joseph's youngest brother. Their parents were Joseph Clark (1804-1883) and Mary Ann Richardson (c1811-1850) He went brankup in 1877, I suspect due to land dealings. The next I have on him is his untimely death in Sydney on 13 Jan 1885. He was buried the next day so it would appear to be from an illness. Samuel married Mary Annie Brendon Parsons 6 Oct 1871 in Adelaide, South Australia They had 6 children Brendun Clark (b.27 May 1872-Angaston,South Australia) Charles Stanley Clark (b.24 Jan 1875-Angaston,South Australia) Lewis Langdon Clark (b.9 Jun 1876-Angaston,South Australia;d.1960-Sydney,NSW) sp: Frances (Fanny) Lanham (m.1955, NSW [they had lived together since before 1930]) Denzel (Denzil, Denziel) John Holt Ibbetson Clark (b.31 May 1878-NA,South Australia;d.1 Feb 1951-Eventide,S,Queensland) female Clark (b.Est 1883) baby Clark (b.Est 1885) I cant find any trace of his wife Mary, or sons Brendun and Charles and I do not know the identity of the two youngest children. The following prominant clarks are decended from the same SA immigrant family of Joseph & Mary Ann Clark John Allworth Clark ( 1846-1932) Lord Mayor of Brisbane and alderman of the Petersham Municipal Council, Sydney Herbert Ricahardson Clark (1863-1947) District Coroner, Sydney (m Elizabeth [Lizzie] Curnow) William Howard Clark (1865-1941) of Wingadee station in North Western NSW (died in Sydney) Alfred Warren Clark (1861-1948) of South Yarra, a senior member of the Stock Exchange of Melbourne (m Blanch Baird 1898) Would like to hear from anyone who is connected to or knows about this family. I have a family photo album back to 1850 that may contain photos of your ancestors likewise you may have information/photos that I am missing. Geoff Carse Queensland. Australia

Hi All, Thanks to Ros, Rhonda and Sheellagh for responding to my request on the marriage of John Richards to Louisa Drayton, their assistance is much appreciated. Alan

Good Morning John Ernest James WINDOVER was born 21 Jun 1911, in Nth Norwood,, parents were Arthur WINDOVER & Alice Maud Mary PATTIE Can't see any marriage for Ernest at the moment. Let me know if you want any more, I only have first death CD. HTH Lynne -------Original Message------- From: I J \(John\) KENDLE Date: 11/14/10 05:01:45 To: aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] WINDOVER, ERNEST JAMES AND EVELYN Dear Listers, All I know about this family is that the above couple, are buried at the Cheltenham Cemetery. If it is not too much to ask, I would like any information births deaths and marriages which might have a connection to the above family. Alternative spellings are WENDOVER and even WINDOW! WTIA John in Dianella WAust Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, Could somebody who has the marriage cd please look up to see if a marriage appears for John Richards and Louisa Drayton about the late 1840's or early 1950's thank you. Many thanks alan

Replied to Alan: No marriage for these two people. Only Richards/Drayton marriage was in 1899. In fact, no marriage for a Louisa at all up to 1916 ............Ros On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Alan Richards <ricko_15@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi All, > > Could somebody who has the marriage cd please look up to see if a marriage appears for John Richards and Louisa Drayton about the late 1840's or early 1950's thank you. > > Many thanks > > alan > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listers, All I know about this family is that the above couple, are buried at the Cheltenham Cemetery. If it is not too much to ask, I would like any information births deaths and marriages which might have a connection to the above family. Alternative spellings are WENDOVER and even WINDOW! WTIA John in Dianella WAust

Hello Pat, Looking at the cached link it gives much more detail - but the site is down at the moment, it says to check back later. The author was mention at the Uni of Kent in Canterbury so maybe that might be a good starting point. ================================================================== This is Google's cache of http://www.harringtons.org/Harrington/HFRB3/HFRB-1-3-3.txt. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on 2 Nov 2010 03:13:43 GMT. The current page could have changed in the meantime. Learn more Text-only versionThese search terms are highlighted: harrington family miscellany =========================================================== Site Down Thank you for visiting us. This portion of RootsWeb is temporarily unavailable. Please check back in a little bit; we're working hard to get it running again. ===================================================================== Harrington Family Research Bulletin Volume 1, Number 3. July, 1989...pages 26 & 35. TABLE OF CONTENTS: THE HARRINGTON FAMILY MISCELLANY Transcribed by: Grace Kayser (Amner@aol.com) January 16, 1997. [Permission for transcription and posting to web site granted by Editor, Marilyn L. Brown, 1/15/97.] _TABLE_OF_CONTENTS:_ _THE_HARRINGTON_FAMILY_MISCELLANY_ _Volume_1_No._1_(March_1975)_ The Harrington Surname......................................1 Thomas Harrington of Harraby, Cumberland Co.................2 Patentees of Inventions 1617-1852...........................6 Pallot's Marriage Index.....................................7 (4 1/2 million entries for ancient parishes of London and Middlesex and neighboring counties l780-1837) Records of General Registration.............................8 _Volume_1_No._2_(June_1975)_ More on the Harrington Surname..............................9 Harrington Baptisms of St. Gregory and St. Martin wye, Kent....................................9 Kent Marriage Index........................................12 Canterbury Marriage Licenses...............................12 Index of Masters Named in the Apprentices Index for Great Britain................................13 Pallot's Marriage Index (continued)........................14 Principal Probate Registry Indexes 1858....................16 _Volume_1_No._3_(Sep_1975)_ Baptisms, Marriages and Burials in Cambridgeshire..........17 Court Records for Cambridgeshire...........................18 Principal Probate Registry Indexes (cont.).................21 Newspaper Item on Harrington Payne 1769....................22 Foreign Office List........................................22 (Biographies of Gerald Harrington, Major Sir John Lane Harrington, and Thomas Joseph Harringtin) Malvern College Registers..................................23 Records of General Registration (cont.)....................24 _Volume_1_No._4_(Dec_l975)_ Consistory Court of Ely....................................25 (Wills of John Harrington 1637, Christopher Harrington 1637, Mary Harrington 1645, Christopher Harrington 1672/3, and John Harrington the Elder 1601, all of Dullingham, Cambridgeshire, and inventory of Wylliam Harrington 1617 of Swaffham Bulbecke) Miscellaneous Registers of St.Martins-in-the-Fields, London, and Maidstone, Kent........................................29 Tontine and Annuity Indexes for Great Britain 1693-1789....30 Harringtons of Cumberland..................................31 _Volume_1_No._5_(Mar_1976)_ Harrington Pedigrees in Print..............................33 Harringtons and Their Personal Identifying Insignia........36 Robert Harrington the Artist...............................39 (b 1805 at Carleton, Cumberland) Harrington Family of Watlington, Oxfordshire...............40 _Volume_1_No._6_(Jun_1976)_ Harrington Family of Watlington (cont).....................43 Miscellaneous Records......................................44 Robert Harrington the Artist (cont.).......................45 Probate Records of Chester.................................46 (Inventory of Parcyvall Harrington 1609) _Volume_1_No._7_(Sep_1976)_ Will and Inventory of Richard Harrington of Prescott, Lancashire 1609............................49 Descendants of Patrick Joseph Harrington....................52 Harringtons in Bermondsey Registers.........................54 Sebergham, Cumberland, Registers ...........................55 Miscellaneous Vital Records from Kent.......................56 _Volume_1_No._8_(Dec_1976)_ Will of Richard Harrington 1699.............................58 Family of Rev. Henry Duke Ha_r_ington.......................58 Will of Timothy Harrington 1742.............................59 Bishop's Transcripts, Bootle, Cumberland....................60 1851 Census Returns, Hove, Sussex,..........................60 1871 Census Returns, Croydon, Surrey........................61 Descendants of Edmond Ha_r_ington of Yeldham,Essex [chart)..62 Parish Registers of Sible Hedingham, Essex..................62 Records of St. Mary Magdalen, Davington, Kent...............63 Registers of St. Michael Bassishaw, London..................64 _Volume_1_No._9_(Mar_1977)_ James and Amelia (Barnard) Harrington of Halsted, Essex, and Australia...........................................65 Parish Registers of Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire...........66 Will of Thomas _A_rrington of Kent 1683.....................67 Hampshire Marriage Licenses 1607-1640 and 1689-1837.........68 Henry Ha_r_ington, M.D. (d 1850)............................68 Baptisms of the Children of Richard and Elizabeth Harrington 1690-1701....................................69 Index of Cases in the Records of the Court of Arches at Lambeth Palace Library 1660-1913........................69 Bishop's Transcrips of Bible Hedingham, Essex...............69 Card Index of Personal Names, Essex Record Office...........70 _Volume_1_No._10_(Jun_1977)_ Card Index of Personal Names, Essex Record Office (cont.)...73 Harrington Pedigree 1425-40 (in Latin)......................75 Family History of James Harrington of Dacre (1828-1901).....76 Harrington Eustace of Oxfordshire 1722......................79 _Volume_1_No._11_(Sep_1977)_ Some l871 Census Returns ...................................81 Records of St. Paul Deptford................................81 Edward Harrington of Isle of wight..........................82 Isle of Wight Card Index....................................82 Hampshire Record Office Card Index..........................83 Winchester Court Records....................................83 Parish Records of St. John the Baptist, Glastonbury, Somerset................................................84 Parish Records of Pilton, Somerset..........................85 Miscellaneous Harrington Entries from Gloucestershire, Avon and Somerset.......................................85 Will of Joseph Harrington of Southampton, 1809..............86 Consular Records: Births 1849-1950, Births 1627-1917, Marriages 1627-1925, Deaths 1707-1917, Deaths 1801- , and African and Asian Protectorates.....................87 (continued on page 35) TABLE_OF_CONTENTS:_HARRINGTON_FAMILYU_MISCELLANY_ (continued from page 26) _Volume_1_no._12_(Dec_1977)_ List of Harrington Wills in Lancashire......................89 Inventory of William Harrington 1557........................89 Will of Alice Haryngton of Dalton 1571......................90 Will of William Harington of Urswick 1587...................90 Inventory of William Harrington.............................91 Will and Inventory of William Harrington of Muche Urswick 1619............................................92 Will and Inventory of William Harrington of Coulton 1623....93 Will of John H_ar_ington of Urswicke 1624...................95 Registers of the Parish Church of Urswick in Furness, Lancashire..............................................96 _Volume_2_no._1_(Mar_1978)_ Registers of the Parish Church of Urswick in Furness, Lancashire (cont.).......................................2 1871 Census Returns of Mill Bay, Foldestone..................2 Records from Some Somerset Parishes..........................3 1871 Census Returns: Kent....................................4 James Harrington of Carlisle 1821............................6 Robert Harrington of Carleton, Cumberland....................7 _Volume_2_no._2_(Sep_1982)_ Principal Probate Registry Indexes (cont. from Vol. 1 p. 16)...............................10 Thomas Harrington of Bocking and Braintree..................11 Harringtons of Ireland......................................12 Sir Henry Harrington of Exton 1512-1591/2...................12 Betham Genealogical Abstracts from the Prerogative Court of Ireland Wills........................................11 Report of a Journey into Northern Island by Sir John Harrington 1599.........................................16 _Volume_2_no._3_(Dec_1982)_ James Harrington of Carlisle 1790...........................18 Probate Bond of Robert Harrington of Carleton, Cumberland (cont.)......................................18 1851 Census Returns for Carlisle............................19 Apprenticeship Papers of Robert Harrington (1759-1843)......20 Journal of James Harrington Robley who Migrated to America in 1848.........................................21 1861 Census Index of Southwark..............................24 _Volume_2_no._4_(Mar_1983)_ Sir Robert de Ha_r_ington of Haverington....................26 Richard son of Alvred de Ha_r_ington_a_ of Lincolnshire.....27 Richard Lawson _E_rrington who Migrated to Australia 1852...31 The Har_y_ngtons of Haveryngton in Cumberland...............32 _Volume_2_no._5_(Jun_1983)_ John, First Lord Harrington of Exton a [arrow to portrait] (1540-161)): portrait...................................36 The Hayngtons of Haveryngton (cont.)........................37 Newspaper Item on the Archeological Discovery of the Body of Robert De Harrington, a Knight Buried in 1297........39 Index of Harrington Arrivals at Victorian Ports 1852-1877 (Australia).............................................41 Chart of Descendants of Richard _E_rrington.................46 _Volume_2_no._6_(Sep_1983)_ Miscellaneous Harrington Marriage Records...................48 Family History of Philip Shakeshaft Harrington of Middlesbrough...........................................49 Extracts from Griffith's Valuations: Barony of Bear, county of Cork 1852.....................52 Harrington Entries from St. Botolph's Adergate, London......51 Volume_2_no._7_(Jun_1986)_ Extracts from Transcription of Broseley Parish Registers....56 Parish Registers of Shalford, Essex.........................57 Harrington Entries in the Bernau Index of Court Records.....58 Notes and Queries...........................................60 Parish Registers of Minster Sheppey, Kent, and St. Mary, Dover.........................................60 East Kent Marriage Index 1700-1753..........................63 Southfleet Parish registers.................................63 Harriet Harrington Playle...................................63 Extracts from 1851 Census Returns, St. Thomas, Surrey, and London .............................................61 Gillingham Parish Registers.................................64 Records from Chatham, Oueenborough, and St. Margarets, Rochester...............................................64 _NOTE_FROM_VOLUME_2_NO._4_(PAGE_27)_ Cecil Humphery-Smith, Director of the Institute of Heraldic & Genealogical Studies in Northgate points out that their researches into the ancestry of Margaret Hilda Thatcher nee Roberts, our Prime Minister, shows that her great-great-great- great-grandfather William Roberts married 19 Sep 1764 at Ringstead, Northants, ELIZABETH HARRINGTON. _NOTE_ON_THE_EDITOR_ Duncan W. Harrington, editor of The Harrington Family Miscellany, is a professional genealogist. Besides conducting genealogical and historical research for others, he teaches for the University of Kent at Canterbury, School of Continuing Education and the W.E.A. He claims to be the first to teach genealogy on a commuter train - the 7:05 from Canterbury East to Cannon Street, London. On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Pat Wade <pmwade@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hi, > > I have just been doing some "googling" and have > come up with a page that has the following - > > > Harrington Family Research Bulletin > Volume 1, Number 3. July, 1989...pages 26 & 35. > > TABLE OF CONTENTS:  THE HARRINGTON FAMILY > MISCELLANY > > Transcribed by: Grace Kayser (Amner@aol.com) > January 16, 1997. >     [Permission for transcription and posting to > web site >     granted by Editor, Marilyn L. Brown, > 1/15/97.] >        _TABLE_OF_CONTENTS:_ > > _THE_HARRINGTON_FAMILY_MISCELLANY > > > > Now I would very interested to read this book or > magazine as it has further down the page - > Volume_1_No._9_(Mar_1977)_ > >  James and Amelia (Barnard) Harrington of > Halsted, Essex, >      and > Australia......................................... > ..65 >  Parish Registers of Sawbridgeworth, > Hertfordshire...........66 >  Will of Thomas _A_rrington of Kent > 1683.....................67 >  Hampshire Marriage Licenses 1607-1640 and > 1689-1837.........68 >  Henry Ha_r_ington, M.D. (d > 1850)............................68 >  Baptisms of the Children of Richard and > Elizabeth >      Harrington > 1690-1701....................................69 >  Index of Cases in the Records of the Court of > Arches at >      Lambeth Palace Library > 1660-1913........................69 >  Bishop's Transcrips of Bible Hedingham, > Essex...............69 >  Card Index of Personal Names, Essex Record > Office...........70 > > > DOES anybody know what this is and where I may be > able to get a copy????? > > Thank you > > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I have just been doing some "googling" and have come up with a page that has the following - Harrington Family Research Bulletin Volume 1, Number 3. July, 1989...pages 26 & 35. TABLE OF CONTENTS: THE HARRINGTON FAMILY MISCELLANY Transcribed by: Grace Kayser (Amner@aol.com) January 16, 1997. [Permission for transcription and posting to web site granted by Editor, Marilyn L. Brown, 1/15/97.] _TABLE_OF_CONTENTS:_ _THE_HARRINGTON_FAMILY_MISCELLANY Now I would very interested to read this book or magazine as it has further down the page - Volume_1_No._9_(Mar_1977)_ James and Amelia (Barnard) Harrington of Halsted, Essex, and Australia......................................... ..65 Parish Registers of Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire...........66 Will of Thomas _A_rrington of Kent 1683.....................67 Hampshire Marriage Licenses 1607-1640 and 1689-1837.........68 Henry Ha_r_ington, M.D. (d 1850)............................68 Baptisms of the Children of Richard and Elizabeth Harrington 1690-1701....................................69 Index of Cases in the Records of the Court of Arches at Lambeth Palace Library 1660-1913........................69 Bishop's Transcrips of Bible Hedingham, Essex...............69 Card Index of Personal Names, Essex Record Office...........70 DOES anybody know what this is and where I may be able to get a copy????? Thank you

I have a friend in WA who researched this family a few years ago for someone else. I helped her with some of them and I recall they provided a few challenges for us. They changed their surname and moved interstate. If memory serves, they were in north-western NSW for a time. I'll forward your email to her and hopefully she still has the info. I didn't keep any info after I passed it along to my friend. Leandra -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gay O'Neill Sent: Friday, 12 November 2010 4:16 PM To: aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Pinkney family Hi, I am wondering if anyone on the list could tell me more about Lilly Maud or her mother Bessie. I am wondering if Bessie is Elisabeth Pinkney, father Isaac mother Caroline Zobel. Thanks Gay in West Aust Surname: PINKNEY Given Names: Lilly Maud Date: 1883-02-16 Sex: F Father: (not recorded) Mother: Bessie PINKNEY Birth Place/Residence: Adelaide District Code: Ade Symbol: S Book: 298 Page: 13 Cross Reference: Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good evening all I have been given a reference to a land record of 1854. Enrolment Book 22 No 68 Indenture of land 339 Can anyone tell me if these records are available for purchase, if so from where Thank you Lyn Schryver Western Australia

>> Hi Gay, >> >> That couple (Isaac & Caroline nee Zobel) had a son Isaac born in 1873 . >> No other children found SA births CD1. >> BUT if Elisabeth was born 5 years before her assumed brother Isaac, in >> say 1868 then she would have been 15 when she had Lilly Maud in 1883 >> BUT if Elisabeth was born 10 yrs before her assumed brother Isaac, in say >> 1863 then she would have been 20 when she had Lilly Maud in 1883 >> So its possible, that a young girl Elisabeth of between15 & 20 had a >> child named Lilly Maud, >> so if your Elisabeth is born in those periods, then more than likely the >> answer is Yes, Bessie is probably your Elisabeth. >> If not then your guess is good as anyone elses >> ++ >> Further to the above: >> Looking at Marriages: >> On 30 April 1883 Bessie PINKNEY aged 17 years married Joseph PICKLES aged >> 22 yrs >> at the Destitute Asylum Chapel, Adelaide. >> Her Father is shown as Isaac PINKEY His father is shown as Henry PICKLES. >> So I believe Bessie more than likely 95% is Elisabeth. >> regards >> Freda. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gay O'Neill" <gayoneill@bigpond.com> >> To: <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 4:15 PM >> Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Pinkney family >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am wondering if anyone on the list could tell me more about Lilly Maud >>> or her mother Bessie. >>> >>> I am wondering if Bessie is Elisabeth Pinkney, father Isaac mother >>> Caroline Zobel. >>> >>> Thanks Gay in West Aust >>> >>> >>> >>> Surname: PINKNEY >>> >>> Given Names: Lilly Maud >>> >>> Date: 1883-02-16 >>> >>> Sex: F >>> >>> Father: (not recorded) >>> >>> Mother: Bessie PINKNEY >>> >>> Birth Place/Residence: Adelaide >>> >>> District Code: Ade >>> >>> Symbol: S >>> >>> Book: 298 >>> >>> Page: 13 >>> >>> Cross Reference: >>> >>> >>> >>> Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >

Thank you so much for that information. I will look at it closely and work out the associations. You are all an amazing lot on this list Thanks to Freda & Genie Gay in WA -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Freda Sent: Friday, 12 November 2010 6:26 PM To: aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Fw: Pinkney family >> Hi Gay, >> >> That couple (Isaac & Caroline nee Zobel) had a son Isaac born in 1873 . >> No other children found SA births CD1. >> BUT if Elisabeth was born 5 years before her assumed brother Isaac, in >> say 1868 then she would have been 15 when she had Lilly Maud in 1883 >> BUT if Elisabeth was born 10 yrs before her assumed brother Isaac, in say >> 1863 then she would have been 20 when she had Lilly Maud in 1883 >> So its possible, that a young girl Elisabeth of between15 & 20 had a >> child named Lilly Maud, >> so if your Elisabeth is born in those periods, then more than likely the >> answer is Yes, Bessie is probably your Elisabeth. >> If not then your guess is good as anyone elses >> ++ >> Further to the above: >> Looking at Marriages: >> On 30 April 1883 Bessie PINKNEY aged 17 years married Joseph PICKLES aged >> 22 yrs >> at the Destitute Asylum Chapel, Adelaide. >> Her Father is shown as Isaac PINKEY His father is shown as Henry PICKLES. >> So I believe Bessie more than likely 95% is Elisabeth. >> regards >> Freda. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gay O'Neill" <gayoneill@bigpond.com> >> To: <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 4:15 PM >> Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Pinkney family >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am wondering if anyone on the list could tell me more about Lilly Maud >>> or her mother Bessie. >>> >>> I am wondering if Bessie is Elisabeth Pinkney, father Isaac mother >>> Caroline Zobel. >>> >>> Thanks Gay in West Aust >>> >>> >>> >>> Surname: PINKNEY >>> >>> Given Names: Lilly Maud >>> >>> Date: 1883-02-16 >>> >>> Sex: F >>> >>> Father: (not recorded) >>> >>> Mother: Bessie PINKNEY >>> >>> Birth Place/Residence: Adelaide >>> >>> District Code: Ade >>> >>> Symbol: S >>> >>> Book: 298 >>> >>> Page: 13 >>> >>> Cross Reference: >>> >>> >>> >>> Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for that information Di. The http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home site has been extremely useful in our search for early family history, so I was quite concerned when I read that it was going to close. However I've logged on to http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper and found it really easy to navigate and to be honest an improvement on ndpbeta so it's been added to my favourites. Thanks again, Mary Ann -------Original Message------- From: dicummings2003@email.com Date: 12/11/2010 12:23:52 AM To: aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] nla newspapers Following a phonecall with NLA today, I learnt that the following website http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home will be closed, within the next couple of months, and the following website http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper will be the main access point for this terrific facility. When you visit this website, remember to explore the many other links on the website [which is constantly being updated]. Cheers from Di Cummings of Melbourne http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/BoundforSouthAustralia.htm Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry Ros, not very clear! I was guessing that between those dates might have been when she died...I knew she was alive in late 1869, and I knew she was born roughly 1820, so I allowed her 90 years! The one you have found adds to the mystery, as it is definitely the same date, and using the Jane version of the name. But the newspaper notice definitely says her husband is John. To add to it all, their eldest son was James, so perhaps the death registration got it wrong. Or perhaps it is all coincidence and they are 2 different families! It happens with John Browns! I will try to see the original cert. at SAGHS to see if there are any more clues, and look more into where James was living...I know he was in Adelaide and not the outback. Thanks Jan -----Original Message----- From: Ros Dunstall [mailto:daisygirl.1212@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 12 November 2010 2:17 PM To: SA List Cc: Jan; Judy Holding Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Death lookup, please this one is on the date supplied in your email Jan, but I am confused by the 1910 mentioned in yr email also, do you mean she died in 1910?. Digger - South Australian Deaths Registrations 1842 to 1915 -------------------- Surname: BROWN, Given Names: Jane Date: 1871-11-08 Sex: F Age: 56y Status: M Relative: James BROWN (H) Residence: Norwood Death Place: Norwood District Code: Ade Book: 44 Page: 213 Cross Reference:

Thanks Judy, for your quick response. Does this mean that her family put a notice in the paper, but didn't register her death? The full notice says: BROWN. On the 8th November, at Beyer St, Norwood, of phthisis, Jean, beloved wife of Mr John Brown, after a protracted illness, aged 56 years. It was in the Register on 9th November 1871. With names like this, I have been searching for years for their deaths, and have eliminated many John Browns, and not found her at all. In the shipping lists, she is called Jane, but was clearly Jean in Scottish records, so I thought it was confusion of accents. I still think it might be her, knowing that informants often don't get ages right. If it is, her husband was living in Mt James, up past Beltana, and may not have been present at her death. There are records showing that she visited there in 1869. I wondered why she did not live there, but TB (phthisis) would explain that. So, it remains a mystery, but a possibility, unless anyone has any other ideas? Thanks again Jan -----Original Message----- From: Judy Holding [mailto:judyfh@bigpond.com] Sent: Friday, 12 November 2010 1:46 PM To: Jan; aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Death lookup, please Hi Jan and List, Sorry Jan unable to find a death for your Jean Brown. Judy.

this one is on the date supplied in your email Jan, but I am confused by the 1910 mentioned in yr email also, do you mean she died in 1910?. Digger - South Australian Deaths Registrations 1842 to 1915 -------------------- Surname: BROWN, Given Names: Jane Date: 1871-11-08 Sex: F Age: 56y Status: M Relative: James BROWN (H) Residence: Norwood Death Place: Norwood District Code: Ade Book: 44 Page: 213 Cross Reference: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Judy Holding <judyfh@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi Jan and List, > > Sorry Jan unable to find a death for your Jean Brown. > > Judy. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan" <jangmc@bigpond.com> > To: <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 1:22 PM > Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Death lookup, please > > >> Can some one please look up a death for me? >> >> Jean BROWN, wife of John Brown, 1870s to about 1910s? >> >> There is a Family notice in the Register, for one possibility, tho the age >> is a few years out, died 8 Nov 1871, in Norwood.  Is there any more >> information, or other possibilities? >> >> Thanks >> >> Jan >> >> >> Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >