Hi everyone I am trying to trace my gggrandfather John Clarke who was born in Ireland in 1812 and arrived in South Aust in 1836 on the Tam O Shanta he married Catherine Taggart in Adelaide 1840 they had 14 children John was a grazier and lived in the Yankalilla districts until his death in 1896 I would be particually interested to know what area of Ireland he come from, so I can continue my search there, but any information would be greatly appreciated. Also my Gggrandfather William Ahern who was born in Ireland in c1829 he arrived in S.A.approx 1855 with his brother John born c1827 William married Mary Commerford (spelt several different ways eg one M) William was a farm labourer they also settled in the Yankalilla area where they lived until their deaths. Once again any information would be great. Thank You Chris

Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Sheelagh Wiles <[email protected]> > Date: 10 July 2013 7:57:14 PM ACST > To: SA LIST <[email protected]> > Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] John James GOLLOP > > > > Sent from my iPad S > REVISION OF WHO. JOHN JAMES WAS MARRIED TO > Hi all > > Does anyone have the Police Gazette over the time span 1895-1905. I am looking for anything I can find on John James GOLLOP b 1860 Dorchester Eng m Charlotte Jane WALKER b 1863 Stanley Flat > > They had 7-8 children and only one survived. > > He lived in Laura and disappeared or was murdered towards the end of the century. > If so there should be something in the Police Gazette. > > There is one in an item In Trove and he was living in Broken Hill I'm not sure if he just went bush or what happen or there was two of them. > > Any information would be appreciated > > Cheers > Sheelagh > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sent from my iPad Hi all Does anyone have the Police Gazette over the time span 1895-1905. I am looking for anything I can find on John James GOLLOP m Anges WALKER They had 7-8 children and only one survived. He lived in Laura and disappeared or was murdered towards the end of the century. If so there should be something in the Police Gazette. There is one in an item In Trove and he was living in Broken Hill I'm not sure if he just went bush or what happen or there was two of them. Any information would be appreciated Cheers Sheelagh

I have sent Sheelagh, two John GOLLOP entries. Kind regards, Judy. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sheelagh Wiles Sent: Wednesday, 10 July 2013 5:07 PM To: SA LIST Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] John James GOLLOP Sent from my iPad Can anyone with BISA look if the family GOLLOP (John James GOLLOP) is listed and if so can they send me what is there please? TIA Sheelagh Wiles AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thankyou to all who replied... looks like I need a Electoral lookup for 1950! Emm ----- Original Message ----- From: "emmjaye" <[email protected]> To: "'South Aust list'" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 3:03 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Who is D A MILLS > Hi all, > > This came from Trove .... D A Mills was living in Kingston Ave; > Edwardstown in 1950. > > Trying to find a connection to Elizabeth Threadgold (nee Mills). When her > husband William Henry Threadgold, died in 1929, the address given was 10 > Kingston Ave; Mitcham Park. Is this the same place? > > cheers > Emm > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sent from my iPad Can anyone with BISA look if the family GOLLOP (John James GOLLOP) is listed and if so can they send me what is there please? TIA Sheelagh Wiles

Thankyou to all who replied I now have her death 1927 in Vic Judy

I am getting confused by all this. First I though yes this is it but then what is it with the dates of the inquest? When you work out the ages on his war records and his marriage he would have been born 1895 and 31 in this Sydney was 36 and certainly not same parents. It doesn't look like his parents came to Australia as they were in England when he was in the army So much as I want it to be him I don't think it is Good work though Helen has a younger brother who is away at the moment. I think I will send her of what I have and see what she says. Maybe she can quiz, Lornas family, she also said maybe her step brother des might know something. Great work Robyn Anne From: Robyn Coates [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2013 9:49 PM To: 'Anne Menadue'; South Australian Gen Group Subject: RE: Brown Dear Anne and others following the trail of Sydney Brown I did find this: Digger - Inquest Index. Victoria 1840 - 1985 Surname: BROWN Given Names: Sydney Age: Place: Year: 1926 Reference: 808 Cause: Accident Occupation: Inq Date: 1925-7-25 - I wonder if this should be 1926 Notes: Other date is 4.8.1926 Articles in TROVE - he broke his neck in a buggy accident http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3798169?searchTerm= <http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3798169?searchTerm=%22Sydney> "Sydney Brown"&searchLimits=l-title=13 The Argus Tuesday 27 July 1926 page 15 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/102304668?searchTerm= <http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/102304668?searchTerm=%22Sydney> "Sydney Brown" wycheproof&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc Albury Banner and Wodonga Express 30th July 1926 page 43 The parents given for this death do not match those given on his marriage details in his war record. Kaneira is north of Wycheproof so I think this is the Sydney Brown mentioned in the articles. It would also tie in with the letter written by his daughter daughter, Lorna. Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 Surname: BROWN Given Names: Sydney Father: Brown Hy Mother: Mary SIMLOCK Death Place: KANEIRA Age: 36 Age Code: Year: 1926 Reg Number: 10237 Event: D Regards Robyn

Dear Anne and others following the trail of Sydney Brown I did find this: Digger - Inquest Index. Victoria 1840 - 1985 Surname: BROWN Given Names: Sydney Age: Place: Year: 1926 Reference: 808 Cause: Accident Occupation: Inq Date: 1925-7-25 - I wonder if this should be 1926 Notes: Other date is 4.8.1926 Articles in TROVE - he broke his neck in a buggy accident http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3798169?searchTerm="Sydney Brown"&searchLimits=l-title=13 The Argus Tuesday 27 July 1926 page 15 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/102304668?searchTerm="Sydney Brown" wycheproof&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc Albury Banner and Wodonga Express 30th July 1926 page 43 The parents given for this death do not match those given on his marriage details in his war record. Kaneira is north of Wycheproof so I think this is the Sydney Brown mentioned in the articles. It would also tie in with the letter written by his daughter daughter, Lorna. Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 Surname: BROWN Given Names: Sydney Father: Brown Hy Mother: Mary SIMLOCK Death Place: KANEIRA Age: 36 Age Code: Year: 1926 Reg Number: 10237 Event: D Regards Robyn

Hi Anne I have been checking through the service record of Sydney William Brown (as suggested by Rhonda)and there is a letter saying that he died in Melbourne aged abt 40 - I think it is written by a Lorna Brant (formerly Brown) living in Oodnadatta - she talks about her father. There is a certified extract of a marriage certificate also. Hence I am not sure that the newspaper report is accurate. Robyn

Hi Anne What a mystery and I am happy to try to help you unravel it. I have found a Helen Elizabeth Jones in the 1911 census aged 13 working as a nursemaid to two young grandchildren. Makes birth year abt 1898 which could fit. Also a marriage. But given the marriage below I wonder if she may have been Ellen. I will keep looking Cheers Robyn 1911 England Census about Helen Elizabeth Jones Name:Helen Elizabeth Jones Age in 1911:13 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1898 Relation to Head:Nurse Maid (Nurse) Gender:Female Birth Place:Lee, Kent, England Civil Parish:Lewisham County/Island:London Country:England Street Address:12 Amblecote Road, Grove Park, Lee, Kent S E Registration District:Lewisham Registration District Number:29 Sub-registration District:Lee ED, institution, or vessel:19 Piece:2748 Household Members: Mary Ann Bickley 63 Ivor Richard Pinkham 3 Leslie Hubert Pinkham 1 Helen Elizabeth Jones 13 After 1916, Surnames of both parties are given on marriage on ancestry England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Sydney W Brown and Ellen E Jones Name: Sydney W Brown Spouse Surname: Jones (Ellen E) Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1918 Registration District: Gravesend Inferred County: Kent Volume Number: 2a Page Number: 1573

Redirected.................... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: rinken rinken <[email protected]> Date: Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:04 PM Subject: brown research To: [email protected] anne have you seen the message in the ancestry message boards about this family? put in his full name and search it suggests that he died 5-2-1950 in toronto canada also makes reference to melbourne sydney and adelaide cemetries in toronto may be worth following up jean

Just received another posting thanks to Rhonda Bruhn WWI file B2455, BROWN S W Service number 54 Place of birth Graves-End Kent, England Place of enlistment Keswick, SA, Australia Next of kin Brown, Annie (mother) Surname Given Names Notice Type Date Type Age Other Details Publication Published BROWN Sydney William Death notice 05FEB1950 Death at Toronto, Canada, formerly of Melbourne, Sydney & Adelaide Sydney Morning Herald 18MAR1950 As they said one old lady will be very happy, no wonder it was such a big chase to find him Thanks all, just shows never give up Anne

I have no idea when he was born or where they married, also when he was born, I cant find either, but he wasn't born in 1909 as he would only be 11 when first child was born married. Yes all the children were born in South Australia Pauline ruby 14.5.1920 Alberton Lorna may 26.6.1922 Birkenhead Harrold Kenneth 25.4.1924 Prospect Helen Amy 3.9.1925 Medindie Helens certificate says he worked for tramways Mother married again in 1931 to George Henry Herraman, she was 31 and a widow, he was 27. I figure Sydney Brown was about the same age as his wife which would make him born around 1900 Robyn found this so I guess maybe following that up may help. This one in Vic Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 Surname: BROWN Given Names: Sydney William Father: Alfred Augus Mother: Alice BOWDEN Death Place: TRAR Age: 74 Age Code: Year: 1965 Reg Number: 799 Event: D Helen says her dad left when she was 1 or 2. Her mother never spoke of him. Maybe they were not married and she just put widow as a cover up. I looked for it on FreeBD&M found nothing. Helen says they both came from Graves End Kent in England. Does anyone know how to access shipping records we would be looking for them around 1916-1920? I don't know Helen personally, she cant talk on phone so doing this by snail mail. I just feel how sad for this lady to still be wondering about her father at 88 yrs of age, I hope we can find a result for her Anne -----Original Message----- From: Tracey Ives [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2013 5:37 PM To: 'Anne Menadue'; 'SA List' Subject: RE: [AUS-SAGEN] Brown search Hi Anne, I found that Sydney William Richard Brown was born in 1909 in Kent (does that sound right?) All their children were born in SA. Does your friend have her birth certificate? What did Sydney William Richard Brown do for a job - any ideas at all? There really isn't anything about SWR Brown, Sydney William Brown on Trove, not even the marriage or kids births. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]tsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Menadue Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2013 4:04 PM To: 'SA List' Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Brown search I am trying to help a lady who is now 88 , find out what happened to her father She had a notice in the Sunday mail two weeks ago. The man she is searching for is Sydney William Richard Brown, he married Helen Elizabeth Jones and had came here from Graves End, Kent, England. They had 4 children, Pauline, 1920, Lorna,1922 Harold 1924 and Helen 1925. Helen is the only one alive. She tells me her father left about 1 or 2 years after she was born. He was working at the Tramways when she was born. Her mother remarried and died in 1980. She would dearly love to find out something about her father before she passes away. Her mother remarried 12.12.1931 and stated she was a widow. I cant find a death for him in South Australia, victoria or NSW. I did find a death notice for a Sydney Brown in the Register 11.2.1928 only family listed was sister Mrs F W Strickland I have checked Adelaide cemeteries Authorities, Centennial Park and the on line index for North Road and Payneham, Broken Hill If anyone can offer any help for this lady I am sure she would be very grateful. I am at a loss where else to search I have not been able to find anything in Trove Thank you Anne Menadue AUS-SAGEN Archives are here:

Hi Anne, I found that Sydney William Richard Brown was born in 1909 in Kent (does that sound right?) All their children were born in SA. Does your friend have her birth certificate? What did Sydney William Richard Brown do for a job - any ideas at all? There really isn't anything about SWR Brown, Sydney William Brown on Trove, not even the marriage or kids births. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Menadue Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2013 4:04 PM To: 'SA List' Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Brown search I am trying to help a lady who is now 88 , find out what happened to her father She had a notice in the Sunday mail two weeks ago. The man she is searching for is Sydney William Richard Brown, he married Helen Elizabeth Jones and had came here from Graves End, Kent, England. They had 4 children, Pauline, 1920, Lorna,1922 Harold 1924 and Helen 1925. Helen is the only one alive. She tells me her father left about 1 or 2 years after she was born. He was working at the Tramways when she was born. Her mother remarried and died in 1980. She would dearly love to find out something about her father before she passes away. Her mother remarried 12.12.1931 and stated she was a widow. I cant find a death for him in South Australia, victoria or NSW. I did find a death notice for a Sydney Brown in the Register 11.2.1928 only family listed was sister Mrs F W Strickland I have checked Adelaide cemeteries Authorities, Centennial Park and the on line index for North Road and Payneham, Broken Hill If anyone can offer any help for this lady I am sure she would be very grateful. I am at a loss where else to search I have not been able to find anything in Trove Thank you Anne Menadue AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Anne Do we know her grandparents' names? Were they married in Au or UK? I know you said you had searched NSW Vic and SA There are a couple of Sydneys in Qld (Sydney William): https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=deaths Couldn't see any in WA: http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx This one in Vic Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 Surname: BROWN Given Names: Sydney William Father: Alfred Augus Mother: Alice BOWDEN Death Place: TRAR Age: 74 Age Code: Year: 1965 Reg Number: 799 Event: D Cheers Robyn

Hi Anne I'm working with a friend on her family tree and she has Browns from Graves End, Kent in her tree. Is it okay with you if I pass on your email message and address to her? All the best, Kylie :-) On 9 July 2013 16:03, Anne Menadue <[email protected]> wrote: > I am trying to help a lady who is now 88 , find out what happened to her > father > > She had a notice in the Sunday mail two weeks ago. The man she is searching > for is Sydney William Richard Brown, he married Helen Elizabeth Jones and > had came here from Graves End, Kent, England. > > They had 4 children, Pauline, 1920, Lorna,1922 Harold 1924 and Helen 1925. > Helen is the only one alive. > > She tells me her father left about 1 or 2 years after she was born. He was > working at the Tramways when she was born. Her mother remarried and died in > 1980. > > She would dearly love to find out something about her father before she > passes away. > > > > Her mother remarried 12.12.1931 and stated she was a widow. > > I cant find a death for him in South Australia, victoria or NSW. > > I did find a death notice for a Sydney Brown in the Register 11.2.1928 only > family listed was sister Mrs F W Strickland > > I have checked Adelaide cemeteries Authorities, Centennial Park and the on > line index for North Road and Payneham, Broken Hill > > > > If anyone can offer any help for this lady I am sure she would be very > grateful. I am at a loss where else to search > > I have not been able to find anything in Trove > > Thank you > > Anne Menadue > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am trying to help a lady who is now 88 , find out what happened to her father She had a notice in the Sunday mail two weeks ago. The man she is searching for is Sydney William Richard Brown, he married Helen Elizabeth Jones and had came here from Graves End, Kent, England. They had 4 children, Pauline, 1920, Lorna,1922 Harold 1924 and Helen 1925. Helen is the only one alive. She tells me her father left about 1 or 2 years after she was born. He was working at the Tramways when she was born. Her mother remarried and died in 1980. She would dearly love to find out something about her father before she passes away. Her mother remarried 12.12.1931 and stated she was a widow. I cant find a death for him in South Australia, victoria or NSW. I did find a death notice for a Sydney Brown in the Register 11.2.1928 only family listed was sister Mrs F W Strickland I have checked Adelaide cemeteries Authorities, Centennial Park and the on line index for North Road and Payneham, Broken Hill If anyone can offer any help for this lady I am sure she would be very grateful. I am at a loss where else to search I have not been able to find anything in Trove Thank you Anne Menadue

Hi All, I am new to this list and am looking for some help on a family puzzle I have come across. I am thinking of buying a marriage record from South Australia for 1869 can any one tell me will it give me both the Father and Mothers name as it appears that my Warrens changed their name to Renney for whatever reason and the marriage I am looking for is that of a Sarah Alice Warren Renney (This is not the first time I have come across a child being named with second name Warren and surname Renney)and took place at the home of a Mrs E Renney and I am trying to find out if this Mrs E Renney was an Eliza Renney. Hoping someone can help me solve this problem Regards Margaret

Looking for the death of Mary Ann Matilda (nee HOLDER) GILBERT b.1880 m.1898 Martin GILBERT alive 1907 when daughter born deceased 1939 when son married and 1940 when husband died Judy