Good after noon I sent an email to the Kapunda Museum this morning to ask them if the Old Kapunda Mill on Hill Street was across from their church - re: Newspaper I then received an reply from the Kapunda Railway station? Saying they did not know anything Since I sent the email to the Museum they apparently didn't know and sent it to the Railway station MY hair if falling out. I tried to reply to this email and it bounced? So I am going to ask - Is there anyone who can tell me where the ROWETT and HOOPER Flour Mill was on HILL Street in Kapunda The newspaper - Church adds say they are across from the Mill on Hill Street - the Museum is a church on Mill street so I emailed them? to Ask if they know anything about the Flour mill Dose anyone know? I have tried everything on the internet I need a real Historical person to reply? I have a photo. Just want to find where it was on HILL street If you have read this far thank you Jill

Hi Paula, You wrote <The 1943 roll for the District of Goodwood, Subdivision of Edwardstown I have this roll on CD.> I am researching the Mills family who lived in Edwardstown 1950, are they mentioned on that CD which you have? Here's hoping. Regards Emm

Please, does anyone have a copy of: Anglican Clergymen in South Australia in the Nineteenth Century <http://www.gould.com.au/Anglican-Clergymen-in-South-Australia-p/gbb003.htm> Specifically looking for someone called Bishop Wilkie who did baptisms in Adelaide But it is not known in which church Jean _____________________________________________

Hi Tony, The 1943 roll for the District of Goodwood, Subdivision of Edwardstown has the following: 6428 O'Grady, John McIntyre, 46 Aver av, Col Lt Gdns, shop foreman M 6429 O'Grady, Vera Alice, 46 Aver av, Col Lt Gdns, home duties F 8796 Taylor, Thomas James [not Joseph], 46 Aver av, Col Light Gdns, - M I have this roll on CD. All the State Libraries usually have electoral rolls from other states. I'm pretty sure the VIC State Library has a number of SA rolls. Regards Paula. -----Original Message----- From: Tony O'Grady [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 7 August 2013 8:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] South Australian electoral rolls, 1942-1954 Can anyone advise me about accessing South Australian electoral rolls as they are not available on Ancestry.com? I am looking for entries for four people: John McIntyre O'GRADY who died in 1950 Vera Alice O'GRADY (perhaps listed as TAYLOR) Brian O'GRADY (from 1952) Thomas Joseph TAYLOR (died 1947) They lived at Colonel Light Gardens, 46 Aver Ave. The period that I am interested in is 1942-1954. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Tony O'Grady Melbourne.

Hi Nice to know you were successful using the information provided by those who answered on the list. Its great to see someone get a positive result. regards Freda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 8:54 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Bruce BELL now found > > > Many thanks for the help from the list for my request of today > > It has been my pleasure to help out others and now it was my > time to be the gratefully recipient of generous help > > I have just spoken to Bruce BELL the last surviving of three > brothers, two of whom make the supreme sacrifice in WWII > > I now have to opportunity to connect three families of the > ill fated flight of a Walrus aircraft which attempted to > rescue the De Gaulle family from France in WWII > > Although not related to any of these I am deeply sadden to > know that John Napier BELL died in the service of his > country without any medal recognition > > Thanks to you all > > Alan > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many thanks for the help from the list for my request of today It has been my pleasure to help out others and now it was my time to be the gratefully recipient of generous help I have just spoken to Bruce BELL the last surviving of three brothers, two of whom make the supreme sacrifice in WWII I now have to opportunity to connect three families of the ill fated flight of a Walrus aircraft which attempted to rescue the De Gaulle family from France in WWII Although not related to any of these I am deeply sadden to know that John Napier BELL died in the service of his country without any medal recognition Thanks to you all Alan

Hi Sands and Mc Dougall directory of 1975 for 10 Sherwood Ave Windsor Gardens has that same B. BELL person living at that address, so he has been there a long time, so a phone call would IMHO definitely be warranted to check and seen if it is your Bruce Napier born 1924. regards Freda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros Dunstall" <[email protected]> To: "Alan" <[email protected]>; "SA List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] BELL Bruce Hi Alan, There were several Bell families in SA, but here is a phone no. of a B N Bell that may be of use: [Hi Ros, there's still a B N Bell listed in the phone book....can't find a death so could be him] Bell B N (08) 8261 7716 10 Sherwood Ave Windsor Gardens SA 5087 Have asked several Bell families in our local FH group but not related to them Ros On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: > I am currently researching the circumstance of the death of > John Napier BELL,Flight Lieutenant No 162 of 10 Squadron > RAAF (who have been co and born 25 April 1916 Largs Bay Sth > Aust died aged 24 on n18 June 1940 > > I have the NAA, Trove sources and much more material > Essentially he was the pilot of a Walrus aircraft which was > shot(?) down in France in WWII > I am in contact with the family of the other Australian > aircraft member HARRIS > A RAF radio operator NOWELL (UK) also died. I am in contact > with that family > > BELL lost another brother in WWII - Alfred Napier BELL > service no. SX1760 2/10 Infantry Battalion killed in Action > 20 Jan 1940 aged 25 > > Newspaper entry BELL, 5X1760. Cpl. Alfred Napier BELL > ("Tup"), 2/10 th Batt, A.I.F.—In loving memory of our > beloved son. killed In action. N.G, January 20. > .1944.—Mother, father, and Bruce (Farina). BELL.—In loving > memory of Cpl. Al fred Napier BELL, A.1.F.. killed in action > in New Guinea. Jan. 20. 1944. His thoughtful kindness will > always be remembered.—Aunt Annie. Uncle Charley and Morris. > The Advertiser Adelaide, SA Saturday 20 January 1945 page 12 > > The sole surviving brother - Bruce BELL DOB 09 Feb 1924 > enlisted WWII survived - enlisted just after his 18th > birthday in 1942 and was a Leading Aircraftman with 84 Sqdn > RAAF. Discharged on the 24th July 1944. > > The next of kin for these were - BELL John and Eva BELL of > Farina (since deceased) > > John Napier BELL, Bruce HARRIS of the RAAF, Bernard NOWELL > RAF and a mysterious Captain Norman Edward HOPE of Special > Operations Executive (re now MI5) were flying to France to > rescue the De Gaulle family. The aircraft crashed and all died. > > BELL DID NOT RECEIVE ANY MEDALS OF ANY DESCRIPTION ! a sad > state of affairs - the RAAF in WWII said it was a matter for > the RAF to attend to > > So....the outstanding contact are for BELL and in the UK > HOPE (being chased at this time) > > Is there anyone on this list who might have leads for the > surviving Bruce BELL (ex Farina) family and can assist? > Bruce is rumoured to have married a politician - no further > details known > > thanks > > Alan Hall > Melbourne > > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Alan, There were several Bell families in SA, but here is a phone no. of a B N Bell that may be of use: [Hi Ros, there's still a B N Bell listed in the phone book....can't find a death so could be him] Bell B N (08) 8261 7716 10 Sherwood Ave Windsor Gardens SA 5087 Have asked several Bell families in our local FH group but not related to them Ros On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: > I am currently researching the circumstance of the death of > John Napier BELL,Flight Lieutenant No 162 of 10 Squadron > RAAF (who have been co and born 25 April 1916 Largs Bay Sth > Aust died aged 24 on n18 June 1940 > > I have the NAA, Trove sources and much more material > Essentially he was the pilot of a Walrus aircraft which was > shot(?) down in France in WWII > I am in contact with the family of the other Australian > aircraft member HARRIS > A RAF radio operator NOWELL (UK) also died. I am in contact > with that family > > BELL lost another brother in WWII - Alfred Napier BELL > service no. SX1760 2/10 Infantry Battalion killed in Action > 20 Jan 1940 aged 25 > > Newspaper entry BELL, 5X1760. Cpl. Alfred Napier BELL > ("Tup"), 2/10 th Batt, A.I.F.—In loving memory of our > beloved son. killed In action. N.G, January 20. > .1944.—Mother, father, and Bruce (Farina). BELL.—In loving > memory of Cpl. Al fred Napier BELL, A.1.F.. killed in action > in New Guinea. Jan. 20. 1944. His thoughtful kindness will > always be remembered.—Aunt Annie. Uncle Charley and Morris. > The Advertiser Adelaide, SA Saturday 20 January 1945 page 12 > > The sole surviving brother - Bruce BELL DOB 09 Feb 1924 > enlisted WWII survived - enlisted just after his 18th > birthday in 1942 and was a Leading Aircraftman with 84 Sqdn > RAAF. Discharged on the 24th July 1944. > > The next of kin for these were - BELL John and Eva BELL of > Farina (since deceased) > > John Napier BELL, Bruce HARRIS of the RAAF, Bernard NOWELL > RAF and a mysterious Captain Norman Edward HOPE of Special > Operations Executive (re now MI5) were flying to France to > rescue the De Gaulle family. The aircraft crashed and all died. > > BELL DID NOT RECEIVE ANY MEDALS OF ANY DESCRIPTION ! a sad > state of affairs - the RAAF in WWII said it was a matter for > the RAF to attend to > > So....the outstanding contact are for BELL and in the UK > HOPE (being chased at this time) > > Is there anyone on this list who might have leads for the > surviving Bruce BELL (ex Farina) family and can assist? > Bruce is rumoured to have married a politician - no further > details known > > thanks > > Alan Hall > Melbourne > > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In 1884 Trooper SPICER was accidently shot at Farina by another Trooper They were using their new 7 inch Smith and Wesson revolvers/carbines - so called "carbines" because they could be used with a shoulder stock and used like a rifle. A horse reared up and the revolver discharged hitting SPICER in the neck. If anyone is interested in the story that I have written about it go to page 48 at http://ipa-australiapolice.com.au/social/magazines/PDU%20%20Aug%202013%20for%20Website.pdf Alan Melbourne

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I am currently researching the circumstance of the death of John Napier BELL,Flight Lieutenant No 162 of 10 Squadron RAAF (who have been co and born 25 April 1916 Largs Bay Sth Aust died aged 24 on n18 June 1940 I have the NAA, Trove sources and much more material Essentially he was the pilot of a Walrus aircraft which was shot(?) down in France in WWII I am in contact with the family of the other Australian aircraft member HARRIS A RAF radio operator NOWELL (UK) also died. I am in contact with that family BELL lost another brother in WWII - Alfred Napier BELL service no. SX1760 2/10 Infantry Battalion killed in Action 20 Jan 1940 aged 25 Newspaper entry BELL, 5X1760. Cpl. Alfred Napier BELL ("Tup"), 2/10 th Batt, A.I.F.—In loving memory of our beloved son. killed In action. N.G, January 20. .1944.—Mother, father, and Bruce (Farina). BELL.—In loving memory of Cpl. Al fred Napier BELL, A.1.F.. killed in action in New Guinea. Jan. 20. 1944. His thoughtful kindness will always be remembered.—Aunt Annie. Uncle Charley and Morris. The Advertiser Adelaide, SA Saturday 20 January 1945 page 12 The sole surviving brother - Bruce BELL DOB 09 Feb 1924 enlisted WWII survived - enlisted just after his 18th birthday in 1942 and was a Leading Aircraftman with 84 Sqdn RAAF. Discharged on the 24th July 1944. The next of kin for these were - BELL John and Eva BELL of Farina (since deceased) John Napier BELL, Bruce HARRIS of the RAAF, Bernard NOWELL RAF and a mysterious Captain Norman Edward HOPE of Special Operations Executive (re now MI5) were flying to France to rescue the De Gaulle family. The aircraft crashed and all died. BELL DID NOT RECEIVE ANY MEDALS OF ANY DESCRIPTION ! a sad state of affairs - the RAAF in WWII said it was a matter for the RAF to attend to So....the outstanding contact are for BELL and in the UK HOPE (being chased at this time) Is there anyone on this list who might have leads for the surviving Bruce BELL (ex Farina) family and can assist? Bruce is rumoured to have married a politician - no further details known thanks Alan Hall Melbourne

Can anyone advise me about accessing South Australian electoral rolls as they are not available on Ancestry.com? I am looking for entries for four people: John McIntyre O'GRADY who died in 1950 Vera Alice O'GRADY (perhaps listed as TAYLOR) Brian O'GRADY (from 1952) Thomas Joseph TAYLOR (died 1947) They lived at Colonel Light Gardens, 46 Aver Ave. The period that I am interested in is 1942-1954. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Tony O'Grady Melbourne.

Would anyone on the list be able to assist me in finding the details of the marriage of John McIntyre O'GRADY? His wife was Vera Alice (surname not known) Date. Between 1930 and 1950 (probably in the 1930s) Place. Adelaide (They later lived at Colonel Light Gardens) Many thanks, Tony O'Grady Melbourne.

Greetings all  another update from theshiplist Regards robert, Adelaide    Important: This communication is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication and are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. Research data online with theshiplist at this address http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/SAassistedindex.shtml http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/SAgermanindex.shtml ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Susan Swiggum <[email protected]> To: TheShipsList <[email protected]>; Robert Janmaat <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, 4 August 2013 2:40 AM Subject: *new* for TheShipsList website                           *new* for TheShipsList website                             http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows                             --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page.  New for Ju 2013 is . . .     o Ship Arrivals:       o Ships to Quebec 1831 ...still in progress, however ... ... as I'd written last month, the first page completely finished .. with some really great stuff, even if you aren't looking for 1831 Quebec arrivals     o Immigration Reports:       o Change in Passage Regulations for South Australia, 1872-1873 Some big changes, some of which are rather confusing     o Passengers:       o South Australia         o ship City of Adelaide, from London via Plymouth to Port Adelaide July 3rd 1873         o ship South Australian, from London via Plymouth to Port Adelaide September 30th 1873         o       o Quebec Steamboats         o John Molson - 3rd trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 12th May 1831         o St. Lawrence - 3rd trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 16th May 1831         o John Molson - 4th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 17th May 1831 The first two lists of South Australia arrivals for 1873 have very few assisted emigrants compared to earlier years.  Vessels for the rest of the year will carry pretty similar numbers.  1874 with 14 vessels, starts with a bang, but also has several "short" ships interspersed. The 1831 Quebec steamboats are coming along very nicely.  I'm still working on May, to catch up to the June, already transcribed. I am still really liking the 1831 lists. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy !! Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Hi Lyn, Unfortunately there is no entry in BISA for this family -- hence no source 7 in the shipping entry. Thanks for alerting us to the name of one of the children that we didn't have. Cheers, Barry Leadbeater www.familyhistorysa.info/colonists.html -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Baker Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 6:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] my brick wall Thankyou to Rhondas Bruhn and other members for your wonderful help with my Sawer family. My next brick wall is (from shipping record) MATTHEWS Matthew, Mary Ann ROSS, 3 ch inc Mary Eliz arrived in SA 1848-09-02 aboard Harpley from London 05-12. [Source:4,6,20] He arrived with 3 children. Mary Elizabeth born c1839, Eliza Jane b 1845, died 1849, and an unknown child born prior to 1848 when they arrived in South Australia. They then had 3 children that I know of in South Australia. Is there any information of the Biographical index that indicates where they may have lived, or what the name of the missing child might be. Lyn Baker

Thankyou to Rhondas Bruhn and other members for your wonderful help with my Sawer family. My next brick wall is (from shipping record) MATTHEWS Matthew, Mary Ann ROSS, 3 ch inc Mary Eliz arrived in SA 1848-09-02 aboard Harpley from London 05-12. [Source:4,6,20] He arrived with 3 children. Mary Elizabeth born c1839, Eliza Jane b 1845, died 1849, and an unknown child born prior to 1848 when they arrived in South Australia. They then had 3 children that I know of in South Australia. Is there any information of the Biographical index that indicates where they may have lived, or what the name of the missing child might be. Lyn Baker

> > I am trying to trace information about my biological father, Douglas Harry Black, who died in the Yatala prison in 1958. I believe it is possible to get a copy of his prison records. Does anyone know how to get this information please? Is it possible to obtain the records without physically being in Adelaide, as I live in Sydney > > > Regards > John Greenlees > >

Hello I am trying to find information on a Jane Sayer born around 1858. She married in 31 Dec 1878 in Dimboola to Thomas Parfett, also supposedly born Mt Gambier 1855. (father Charles Parfett mother Elizabeth Gardner). He is aged 23 on marriage cert. single, and a farmer of Kiata. Jane's father is given as John Sayer, labourer on the marriage cert, but it states that she was under the guardianship of W.H. Neufrey (hard to read, would love some help deciphering). for 15 years. She is a single woman, servant of Kiata when she marries. Age is given as 20 for her, she cannot sign her name. Jane is not the one on the SA birth index born c1861. Any suggestions, I did find a marriage of a John Sayre in 1861 to a Norah Daley, and the death of John a couple of months later in 1861 in Port Adelaide. Are guardianship records likely to be available. Family story is that the guardian was a minister of religion. Regards Lyn Baker

Dear Listers, this wonderful list has done it again! My special thanks and appreciation for your skills and interest to Wendy, Kim, Lynne, Lyn, Penne and Christine from WA. Gold stars all round. Monty Smith Southern Flinders Ranges.

Morning Monty Alexander Thomas BROWN died in Alberton, SA, 2 Jan 1969 aged 58 years, he is buried at the Cheltenham Cemetery with a Mary Anne Brown (mother???) who died 10 Nov 1953 at Alberton aged 76 years, also in same area is a Zona Mavis Finger, wife of Alexander. According to death information Alexander would have been born c1911 however there is an Alexander T Brown born in Perth 1909 Reg No 850, if you are sure he was born in WA The Advertiser dated 10 Nov 1953 BROWN. —On November 9, at her residence, 25 Fussell place, Alberton, Mary Anne beloved .widow of Joseph, and loving mother of Alex, mother-in-law of Zona and grandmother of Joy, Enid and Lex. Aged 76 years. At Rest. Mary Anne's death Certificate should tell you where she was born and how long in Australia and Alexander's death Certificate should tell you all you need to know if informant knew. HTH Lynne Dear Listers, Does anyone have access to WA BDMs? (I'm not getting anywhere with the on-line searches!). Looking for a marriage between Joseph BROWN and a Mary Ann STOREY (or STORY) sometime 'tween 1899 and 1914. Believe they had a son Alexander Thomas BROWN in WA and I would like his birth date if possible. Family knowledge is sketchy and Joseph was killed on Gallipoli in 1915. Thanks in advance and grateful for any assistance. Monty Smith Southern Flinders Ranges.