Hi Marg, Can you not access the Adelaide Now website? The classified ads are on the top banner and if you select Tributes it will take you to the daily Death and Funeral notices. Hope this helps, Cheers Judy -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Boots via Sent: Monday, 18 January 2016 5:49 PM To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] help please Hi List, Up until last Saturday I was able to index the death and funeral notices from the Adelaide Advertiser from Press Display on the State library of Vic website. The publishers of the Adelaide Advertiser have withdrawn the newspaper. Is there anyone on the list who gets the Adelaide Advertiser every day who could scan the notices and email them to me to be put on Ryerson Index website which many people have found very useful all over the world. Ryerson Index is a very helpful website for genealogists'. Our local library do not have copies of the newspaper and as I live in regional Victoria do not have access easily to the State library. Thanks. Margaret Boots. AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Margaret, the death and funeral notices are available online at Adelaide Now http://tributes.adelaidenow.com.au/ cheers Maryanne South Australia

Sent Lyn the birth of 12 children -------Original Message------- From: Lyn Smith via Date: 01/18/16 21:39:52 To: SAGEN List Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Emma Cockrum nee Pearce Hello listers, Emma Pearce was born around 1857 at Mintaro SA, daughter of Henry Pearce. Her obit (1944 in Broken Hill) says she was one of 13 children. There was an Emma Pearce b 1856, daughter of Henry Pearce and Sarah Moxey, but I don’t know whether this is the same Emma. (I can only find 7 children of this couple!) Emma married John Henna Cockrum in 1878, and moved to Broken Hill in 1899 with her four surviving children. I’m hoping someone will be able to find some more information about the family for me, perhaps from BISA. (I think I have found everything Genealogy SA, Trove and NSW bdm have to offer about her.) I’ll be very grateful for any help you can give me. Lyn from Dubbo AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello listers, Emma Pearce was born around 1857 at Mintaro SA, daughter of Henry Pearce. Her obit (1944 in Broken Hill) says she was one of 13 children. There was an Emma Pearce b 1856, daughter of Henry Pearce and Sarah Moxey, but I don’t know whether this is the same Emma. (I can only find 7 children of this couple!) Emma married John Henna Cockrum in 1878, and moved to Broken Hill in 1899 with her four surviving children. I’m hoping someone will be able to find some more information about the family for me, perhaps from BISA. (I think I have found everything Genealogy SA, Trove and NSW bdm have to offer about her.) I’ll be very grateful for any help you can give me. Lyn from Dubbo

Hi List, Up until last Saturday I was able to index the death and funeral notices from the Adelaide Advertiser from Press Display on the State library of Vic website. The publishers of the Adelaide Advertiser have withdrawn the newspaper. Is there anyone on the list who gets the Adelaide Advertiser every day who could scan the notices and email them to me to be put on Ryerson Index website which many people have found very useful all over the world. Ryerson Index is a very helpful website for genealogists'. Our local library do not have copies of the newspaper and as I live in regional Victoria do not have access easily to the State library. Thanks. Margaret Boots.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Richards via" <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> To: <aus-sagen-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:49 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] N.S.W. - BDM > Hi all, > > > > I tried searching the N. S. W. Bdm site but it only goes to > 1916. > > > > I am trying to track down somebody born in 1930. > > > > Are these later records available to search please? > Hi Alan No............... Theres been a 100 yr embargo on public access to NSW birth records for a long time. All the States have embargos on BDM records. Qld marriage records have been stuck on 1939 for ever. VICs marriages stuck at 1942. NSW has a 50 yr embargo .. They used to add the next year on 1 Jan but now its near enough a daily addition . So birth records for NSW nominally available to 14th Jan 1916 Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Alan, You could try Trove for a birth announcement in 1930. … you might be lucky. The marriage of the person you’re looking for might be in NSW bdm - marriages over 50 years ago are listed. Good luck, Lyn

Hi all, I tried searching the N. S. W. Bdm site but it only goes to 1916. I am trying to track down somebody born in 1930. Are these later records available to search please? Alan Richards

I am trying to find out as much as I can about the above person and his wife Sarah Bland. He is NOT to be confused with Percy Weedon Dyer his nephew and also living in Burra about whom I have much detail. Percy was christened 22 May 1814 and married Sarah Bland born about 1820 in Hampstead, London 1850. Percy died in Burra 23 October 1875 and buried in the Burra Cemetery. Percy and Sarah departed Liverpool 10th January 1860 on the "Grand Trianon" and arrived in Port Adelaide on 22nd April 1860. This is all that I have been able to find out about them. I do not know where or when Sarah died or where or when she was born. I have not been able to find our of she remarried as neither her death or remarriage appear in the SA BDM records or Trove. They appear not to have had any children. I would appreciate any assistance in breaking down this brick wall. Kind regards Ian Turnbull

Hi Ian, I have a very poor quality photocopy of the death certificate. I suspect the extra info is the occupation of her father. It was notified by the undertaker. Regards, Leandra On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 12:17 PM, ian simon <ians@iinet.net.au> wrote: > Hi Leandra > > Have you her death certificate? The death index indicates there is > additional information on the certificate that may be of interest to family > historians. You can get the info transcribed for about half price rather > than buying the certificate. There are a couple people doing transcriptions > including SAGHS. > > Best of luck > > ian in perth > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "Leandra Ford" <cruznk9@gmail.com> > > To: > <aus-sagen-L@rootsweb.com> > Cc: > > Sent: > Wed, 13 Jan 2016 08:52:22 +1030 > Subject: > [AUS-SAGEN] Theeuf/Theeuff Family > > > > Hi Everyone, > > Is anyone here researching the Theeuf family from Kooringa/Burra? > > I have a photo of an unknown woman who allegedly was the fiancée of Samuel > Ford. Ford family legend states that she died before marriage, thought to > be in a fire or from typhoid. Sam never married and he gave her engagement > ring to a niece. A photo of the young woman may be seen here: > http://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/resource/PRG+1543/2/46 > > Two Theeuf sisters, Sarah and Bertha/Berthia, daughters of William Theeuf > and Charlotte, nee Press, married two of Sam's brothers. Another sister, > Emma Theeuf (1863-1883) died of typhoid. I'm wondering whether anyone has > any photos of Emma and does she bear any resemblance to my unknown woman? > > Thank you, > Leandra Ford > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Entertainment stops where cruelty begins. Buck the rodeo.

Hi Leandra, We have a copy of Emma's death certificate and as we read it it has Emma's age as 19 years, Child of William Theeuff late of near Kooringa Labourer and Engine Driver. Deceased. William, the youngest brother of Emma died 12 days after Emma, also from Typhoid Fever. Leandra, it is great to make contact with you again. Betty from hot, sunny Perth. -----Original Message----- From: Leandra Ford via Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 9:58 AM To: ian simon Cc: aus-sagen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Theeuf/Theeuff Family Hi Ian, I have a very poor quality photocopy of the death certificate. I suspect the extra info is the occupation of her father. It was notified by the undertaker. Regards, Leandra On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 12:17 PM, ian simon <ians@iinet.net.au> wrote: > Hi Leandra > > Have you her death certificate? The death index indicates there is > additional information on the certificate that may be of interest to > family > historians. You can get the info transcribed for about half price rather > than buying the certificate. There are a couple people doing > transcriptions > including SAGHS. > > Best of luck > > ian in perth > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "Leandra Ford" <cruznk9@gmail.com> > > To: > <aus-sagen-L@rootsweb.com> > Cc: > > Sent: > Wed, 13 Jan 2016 08:52:22 +1030 > Subject: > [AUS-SAGEN] Theeuf/Theeuff Family > > > > Hi Everyone, > > Is anyone here researching the Theeuf family from Kooringa/Burra? > > I have a photo of an unknown woman who allegedly was the fiancée of Samuel > Ford. Ford family legend states that she died before marriage, thought to > be in a fire or from typhoid. Sam never married and he gave her engagement > ring to a niece. A photo of the young woman may be seen here: > http://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/resource/PRG+1543/2/46 > > Two Theeuf sisters, Sarah and Bertha/Berthia, daughters of William Theeuf > and Charlotte, nee Press, married two of Sam's brothers. Another sister, > Emma Theeuf (1863-1883) died of typhoid. I'm wondering whether anyone has > any photos of Emma and does she bear any resemblance to my unknown woman? > > Thank you, > Leandra Ford > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Entertainment stops where cruelty begins. Buck the rodeo. AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Stephanie, Yes I have searched Trove. There is no mention of Sam Ford's engagement. The only record of Emma is a death notice in the newspaper which only gives her father's name. I've searched for photos in the State Library of SA. I've tried a reverse photo search with Tineye. There are 2 Ford family photo albums in the SLSA. The link I posted is the only photo of this woman in the albums. I have some copies of photos of the Ford family, including this one. I also have the book on the Ford family history by Patricia Lock. None of the contributors to that book know the woman's identity. I have searched through all the usual resources for the last 30 years. The only evidence of this engagement to date is a family legend and a photograph of an unidentified woman. Regards, Leandra On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Stephanie Cocks <steph-ken@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Hello Leandra, > > Just a thought have you tried Trove? It is an unusual name so shouldn't > be too hard to find at least 'something'. > > You don't say what information you have, i.e. BDM's or possible entries in > the BISA? > > Steph. > > -----Original Message----- From: Leandra Ford via > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:52 AM > To: aus-sagen-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Theeuf/Theeuff Family > > > Hi Everyone, > > Is anyone here researching the Theeuf family from Kooringa/Burra? > > I have a photo of an unknown woman who allegedly was the fiancée of Samuel > Ford. Ford family legend states that she died before marriage, thought to > be in a fire or from typhoid. Sam never married and he gave her engagement > ring to a niece. A photo of the young woman may be seen here: > http://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/resource/PRG+1543/2/46 > > Two Theeuf sisters, Sarah and Bertha/Berthia, daughters of William Theeuf > and Charlotte, nee Press, married two of Sam's brothers. Another sister, > Emma Theeuf (1863-1883) died of typhoid. I'm wondering whether anyone has > any photos of Emma and does she bear any resemblance to my unknown woman? > > Thank you, > Leandra Ford > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Entertainment stops where cruelty begins. Buck the rodeo.

Hello Leandra, Just a thought have you tried Trove? It is an unusual name so shouldn't be too hard to find at least 'something'. You don't say what information you have, i.e. BDM's or possible entries in the BISA? Steph. -----Original Message----- From: Leandra Ford via Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:52 AM To: aus-sagen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Theeuf/Theeuff Family Hi Everyone, Is anyone here researching the Theeuf family from Kooringa/Burra? I have a photo of an unknown woman who allegedly was the fiancée of Samuel Ford. Ford family legend states that she died before marriage, thought to be in a fire or from typhoid. Sam never married and he gave her engagement ring to a niece. A photo of the young woman may be seen here: http://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/resource/PRG+1543/2/46 Two Theeuf sisters, Sarah and Bertha/Berthia, daughters of William Theeuf and Charlotte, nee Press, married two of Sam's brothers. Another sister, Emma Theeuf (1863-1883) died of typhoid. I'm wondering whether anyone has any photos of Emma and does she bear any resemblance to my unknown woman? Thank you, Leandra Ford AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Leandra Have you her death certificate? The death index indicates there is additional information on the certificate that may be of interest to family historians. You can get the info transcribed for about half price rather than buying the certificate. There are a couple people doing transcriptions including SAGHS. Best of luck ian in perth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leandra Ford" To: Cc: Sent:Wed, 13 Jan 2016 08:52:22 +1030 Subject:[AUS-SAGEN] Theeuf/Theeuff Family Hi Everyone, Is anyone here researching the Theeuf family from Kooringa/Burra? I have a photo of an unknown woman who allegedly was the fiancée of Samuel Ford. Ford family legend states that she died before marriage, thought to be in a fire or from typhoid. Sam never married and he gave her engagement ring to a niece. A photo of the young woman may be seen here: http://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/resource/PRG+1543/2/46 Two Theeuf sisters, Sarah and Bertha/Berthia, daughters of William Theeuf and Charlotte, nee Press, married two of Sam's brothers. Another sister, Emma Theeuf (1863-1883) died of typhoid. I'm wondering whether anyone has any photos of Emma and does she bear any resemblance to my unknown woman? Thank you, Leandra Ford AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone, Is anyone here researching the Theeuf family from Kooringa/Burra? I have a photo of an unknown woman who allegedly was the fiancée of Samuel Ford. Ford family legend states that she died before marriage, thought to be in a fire or from typhoid. Sam never married and he gave her engagement ring to a niece. A photo of the young woman may be seen here: http://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/resource/PRG+1543/2/46 Two Theeuf sisters, Sarah and Bertha/Berthia, daughters of William Theeuf and Charlotte, nee Press, married two of Sam's brothers. Another sister, Emma Theeuf (1863-1883) died of typhoid. I'm wondering whether anyone has any photos of Emma and does she bear any resemblance to my unknown woman? Thank you, Leandra Ford

Hi All, Many thanks to Ray, Lyn and Marg who put me on the right track with Tasmanian BDM. Alan Richards

Hi Alan, LINC Tasmania (State Library) is a good starting point; http://www.linc.tas.gov.au/Pages/Home.aspx and in particular the family history page; http://www.linc.tas.gov.au/family-history/Pages/default.aspx the Tasmanian Names Index is a useful link, and register pages for pre 1900 births, deaths and marriages are linked to the relevant results. The Tasmanian mailing list is also a helpful starting point; ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Websitehttp://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact AdminAUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=AUS-Tasmania Ray On 10/01/2016 9:24 PM, Alan Richards via wrote: > Hi All, > > > > What is the best site to view Tasmanian records please? > > > > Thanks > > > > Alan Richards > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Richards via" <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> To: <aus-sagen-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 9:24 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Tasmanian Records > Hi All, > > > > What is the best site to view Tasmanian records please? > Hi Alan Google is pretty good ..........try www.search.archives.tas.gov.au/Default.aspx among others Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi All, What is the best site to view Tasmanian records please? Thanks Alan Richards

Good evening, I hope this might reach John Schmitke who may be researching SA ancestors including Nayda, Roesler and Brownett families. I think we might have a match and happy to hear from you via the list or direct to floorplanz@xtra.co.nz. Kind regards, Paul Parker, Auckland