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Hello subscribers to the aus-romani mailing list. All Rootsweb mailing lists have been nearly dead for the last two or so years. In February this year, Rootsweb upgraded the software that runs their 30,000 or so mailing lists, and after a few teething problems, the system is now up and running. The archives of past posts are gradually being restored, but this may take months. Subscribers may notice minor differences. The main difference for you is that you can register as a subscriber and then be able to adjust options for how you receive emails (e.g. single posts or digests in plain or MIME format, halt mail while on holidays and a few more things). Or you can just leave things as they are. As a reminder, this mailing list is for anyone with a genealogical interest in Romani (gypsies) in Australia. To post to this list or respond to a post, use the email address      aus-romani@rootsweb.com For questions about the operation of this list, please contact the list administrator at      aus-romani-owner@rootsweb.com Your list is back up, so if you want to keep it active and ongoing, please post your queries or information to the list. Otherwise you may lose it! Cheers Peter Lakeman Temporary List Admin

Hello Peter, thank you for the heads up. I feel that the best way for me to find out more about my Romani ancestry would be to go to Europe and meet up with my relatives, however I don't think that is going to happen any time soon...On that note, I learnt that in Europe the term "Gypsies" is viewed as derogatory, and many Romani people don't identify with the term, but will say that they are not Gypsies, but that they are Romani. Of course, the origins of the term are innocent enough, but I think a lot of gadjes do use it in a negative way. A worse term is "Ziganer"...not sure if you have heard of that one, but it is very insulting. It means untouchables, and was the term that the Nazis preferred to call us during the porajmos ~ of which my relatives were victims of. I avoid using either term, however I have noticed that among the older generation of Romani people in Australia, the "G" word is accepted and used frequently. The younger generation that I know are slowing down on the terms usage, and preferring the name we call ourselves rather than the name that the gadjes gave us long ago. Still learning as I go, but I feel I have learnt so much. There is always plenty more to learn of course, which I am happy to continue to do. Bjern. ________________________________ From: Peter Lakeman <peter@ausvic.net> Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2018 6:18 PM To: aus-romani@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-ROMANI] The AUS-ROMANI mailing list is back. Hello subscribers to the aus-romani mailing list. All Rootsweb mailing lists have been nearly dead for the last two or so years. In February this year, Rootsweb upgraded the software that runs their 30,000 or so mailing lists, and after a few teething problems, the system is now up and running. The archives of past posts are gradually being restored, but this may take months. Subscribers may notice minor differences. The main difference for you is that you can register as a subscriber and then be able to adjust options for how you receive emails (e.g. single posts or digests in plain or MIME format, halt mail while on holidays and a few more things). Or you can leave things as they are. As a reminder, the purpose of this mailing list is for anyone with a genealogical interest in Romani (gypsies) in Australia. For questions about the operation of this list, please contact the list administrator at aus-romani-owner@rootsweb.com <mailto:aus-romani-owner@rootsweb.com> To post to this list or respond to a post, use the email address aus-romani@rootsweb.com Your list is back up so if you want to keep this list active and going, please post your queries or information to the list. Cheers Peter Lakeman Temporary List Admin _______________________________________________ Please note that this list is available for adoption. If any member has an interest in promoting the aims of this list, please contact the current list owner at aus-romani-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/aus-romani@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/aus-romani@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello subscribers to the aus-romani mailing list. All Rootsweb mailing lists have been nearly dead for the last two or so years. In February this year, Rootsweb upgraded the software that runs their 30,000 or so mailing lists, and after a few teething problems, the system is now up and running. The archives of past posts are gradually being restored, but this may take months. Subscribers may notice minor differences. The main difference for you is that you can register as a subscriber and then be able to adjust options for how you receive emails (e.g. single posts or digests in plain or MIME format, halt mail while on holidays and a few more things). Or you can leave things as they are. As a reminder, the purpose of this mailing list is  for anyone with a genealogical interest in Romani (gypsies) in Australia. For questions about the operation of this list, please contact the list administrator at aus-romani-owner@rootsweb.com <mailto:aus-romani-owner@rootsweb.com> To post to this list or respond to a post, use the email address     aus-romani@rootsweb.com Your list is back up so if you want to keep this list active and going, please post your queries or information to the list. Cheers Peter Lakeman Temporary List Admin

Hello Shona, I'm sorry, but I still may not be of much help to you. This is what I do know though: During Australia's convict era a lot of Romani from the UK were unfairly sent to Australia as convicts. As for what tribe they are from, I'd say "King" might likely be from the Romanichal tribe. I'm not sure about what tribe, or tribes, occupy Scotland, I know that some Romanichal do, and I think some Kale (Welsh Romani), and there are also some Scotish Nomadic groups, as well as Irish ones as well, who probably don't have Romani ancestory. There are many tribes of Romani throughout Europe, the Middle East, and India. My tribe is in the Netherlands, they are known as the "Woonwagen bewoners" (Wagon livers, or People who live in wagons), they are of the Sinti tribe. My Oma and mother came to Australia in 1955. I hope you find what you are looking for! All the best! Corben. _________________________________________________________________ Time for change? Find your ideal job with SEEK. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Atl%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahottag%3Achange&_t=757263783&_r=SEEK_tagline&_m=EXT

Hello Corben, Nice name, Thank you for your reply. My KING surname Romani people came from around Oxfordshire, South England, and The MAC FARLANE's were originally from Edinburg. If you come across anything- or if I can be of any help to you let me know. All the best, Shona. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Corben Bigmore" <nebrocstheworld@hotmail.com> To: <aus-romani@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-ROMANI] King & Mac Farlane > > Hello, > > I'm gathering that those are family names? I'm sorry, I wish I could help > you, but I don't know of these. Do you know what tribe they are from? Is > there anything else you can tell me about them? > All the best, I hope you find them! > > > Corben. > _________________________________________________________________ > It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 at CarPoint.com.au > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-ROMANI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, I'm gathering that those are family names? I'm sorry, I wish I could help you, but I don't know of these. Do you know what tribe they are from? Is there anything else you can tell me about them? All the best, I hope you find them! Corben. _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT

Hello, I am searching for King's and Mac Farlane's. Any info would be appreciated. Cheers, Shona.

Hi I'm looking for Solomon and Bridget Hearn and John Mobey. I've hit a brick wall and would appreciate any help offered. Kind Regards Doreen > From: nebrocstheworld@hotmail.com > To: aus-romani@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:54:08 +1100 > Subject: Re: [AUS-ROMANI] King & Mac Farlane > > > Hello, > > I'm gathering that those are family names? I'm sorry, I wish I could help you, but I don't know of these. Do you know what tribe they are from? Is there anything else you can tell me about them? > All the best, I hope you find them! > > > Corben. > _________________________________________________________________ > It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 at CarPoint.com.au > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-ROMANI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Holiday cheer from Messenger. Download free emoticons today! http://livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=669758

Hi David Oxley, I don't know about the Romani in Mildura, aparently there are a few there, but I don't know. I know that there was a group that was in Rockbank a while ago, but they were just travelling through, I don't know where they are now, I think they were Sinti. Best of luck! _________________________________________________________________ Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext&_t=764565661&_r=OCT07_endtext_Future&_m=EXT

Hi my name is Dave Oxley i arrived in Australia in my mid 20s from Bradford near Leeds England my Nan was Romani .Iwould like to havecontact with any Rom groups in the Mildura area in Victoria.regards Dave Oxley. _________________________________________________________________ Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext&_t=764565661&_r=OCT07_endtext_Future&_m=EXT

Hi Davor, Thanks for your email. How's the film progressing? Do you want to email me your email address and I will keep in touch if I have a lot of info which I could pass onto you. What is your particular area of interest also ? Can you do adaptations of books for film? Warm wishes, Jan > Hi Jan, > > My name is Davor, I'm a filmmaker based in Melbourne. > This is not the answer you's expect, but I've been trying to make > a film on anything related to Romani in Australia, so am answering > every AUS - ROMANI e-mail I receive. Interesting thing about herbs > and their use. Also, about the weddings. If at any time in future > you collect enough information and, apart from a book, you start > thinking about film as a possible outlet - let me know. > > Kind Regards + good luck! > > Davor Dirlic > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jan Rozanski" <janroz@optusnet.com.au> >> To: AUS-ROMANI@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [AUS-ROMANI] Romani and flowers/herbs/music >> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:51:46 -0800 >> >> >> Hi to everyone on the Romani List, >> I am a Brisbane based author and am very interested in talking with >> anyone who would like to talk to me about Romani uses for herbs, >> flowers- perhaps in herbal recipes or talismans. I have read that the >> elder tree is sacred to the Romani, so am interested in finding out more >> about this also. >> Also I'd like to find out more about wedding ceremonies, especially the >> use and significance of any flowers at weddings. And music and >> connection with herbs, and flowers. >> Thank you, please email me if you would like to , and i will give you a >> contact. Then if you are happy to talk more I could ph you. >> warm wishes, >> Jan Rozanski >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-ROMANI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > >

Hi Jan, My name is Davor, I'm a filmmaker based in Melbourne. This is not the answer you's expect, but I've been trying to make a film on anything related to Romani in Australia, so am answering every AUS - ROMANI e-mail I receive. Interesting thing about herbs and their use. Also, about the weddings. If at any time in future you collect enough information and, apart from a book, you start thinking about film as a possible outlet - let me know. Kind Regards + good luck! Davor Dirlic > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Rozanski" <janroz@optusnet.com.au> > To: AUS-ROMANI@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-ROMANI] Romani and flowers/herbs/music > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:51:46 -0800 > > > Hi to everyone on the Romani List, > I am a Brisbane based author and am very interested in talking with > anyone who would like to talk to me about Romani uses for herbs, > flowers- perhaps in herbal recipes or talismans. I have read that the > elder tree is sacred to the Romani, so am interested in finding out more > about this also. > Also I'd like to find out more about wedding ceremonies, especially the > use and significance of any flowers at weddings. And music and > connection with herbs, and flowers. > Thank you, please email me if you would like to , and i will give you a > contact. Then if you are happy to talk more I could ph you. > warm wishes, > Jan Rozanski > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-ROMANI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- 10 Great Gift Ideas- Take a Look! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174

Hi to everyone on the Romani List, I am a Brisbane based author and am very interested in talking with anyone who would like to talk to me about Romani uses for herbs, flowers- perhaps in herbal recipes or talismans. I have read that the elder tree is sacred to the Romani, so am interested in finding out more about this also. Also I'd like to find out more about wedding ceremonies, especially the use and significance of any flowers at weddings. And music and connection with herbs, and flowers. Thank you, please email me if you would like to , and i will give you a contact. Then if you are happy to talk more I could ph you. warm wishes, Jan Rozanski

My father, Harold Henry Porter,born in England always claimed to be of Romani descent. he said his grandmother was the last of her line and, as suc, was the last English Romani to be cremated with her caravan. I would love to hear from anyone with information on this bit of family history. Terry

Hello to everyone , I have 2 separate questions for people on the list Firstly, I am wondering if anyone has any ancestors who travelled in the Dalby/ Tara/ Toowoomba region in the late 1930's or 1940's or thereabouts? If so I am very keen to contact them. Secondly, if anyone has relations with surname Lovell, who lived at Meandarra around the 1940's? My grandmother was married to Jack Lovell, and I am told by a Romani person that Lovell is a Romani Name, so I am keen to contact anyone who may have any information which could help me. Thank you, jan Rozanski

Dear Marcelle, This is just a brief response to your e-mail. I am a filmmaker interested in stories about interesting people. I'm particularly fascinated by Romani people and am 'collecting' stories about them. Sorry, I can not help you to find the truth about your ancestor(s) but I wish you the best luck in your efforts. And please, if you ever thought that your experience could be put down on paper or on the film tape, let me know. Kind Regards Davor Dirlic Melbourne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mvs <mvs5@westnet.com.au> > To: AUS-ROMANI@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-ROMANI] COLES - > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:49:11 +0800 > > > Hello list > > My g grandparents had a child in 1900 named Nelly Romany Coles. She was > born in Qld and died 3 months later in NSW. > > My g grandfather was listed as a 'Showman', a 'Theatrical Agent' and a > 'Travelling Optician'. > > His name was Charles Coles and my g grandmother (his wife/partner don't > know which) was listed as 'Madame Lee' and apparently told fortunes. > I've been unable to trace their origins because of lots of 'porkies' and > different names on my g grandmother's part, but am hoping someone out > there can tell me where to look for show people who travelled throughout > Australia including Tasmania and the Victorian goldfields around 1895 - > 1908. > > Because their daughter was names Nelly ROMANY Coles I thought perhaps > there was a gypsy element to all this. > > Hope someone has some clues! > > Cheers, Marcelle in Western Australia > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/894 - Release Date: > 7/10/2007 5:44 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-ROMANI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello list My g grandparents had a child in 1900 named Nelly Romany Coles. She was born in Qld and died 3 months later in NSW. My g grandfather was listed as a 'Showman', a 'Theatrical Agent' and a 'Travelling Optician'. His name was Charles Coles and my g grandmother (his wife/partner don't know which) was listed as 'Madame Lee' and apparently told fortunes. I've been unable to trace their origins because of lots of 'porkies' and different names on my g grandmother's part, but am hoping someone out there can tell me where to look for show people who travelled throughout Australia including Tasmania and the Victorian goldfields around 1895 - 1908. Because their daughter was names Nelly ROMANY Coles I thought perhaps there was a gypsy element to all this. Hope someone has some clues! Cheers, Marcelle in Western Australia No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/894 - Release Date: 7/10/2007 5:44 PM

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Dear Davor Dirlic, I wish you the best of luck with making the documentary and look forward in seeing it when it's made! My mother came to Australia from the Netherlands when she was 2 years old in 1955 with her family. We are from the Woonwagenbewoners (Roughly translated "Wagon living people") which is part of the Sinti tribe. My Oma (grandmother in Dutch) had gotten married to a Gjier (Non-Roma) so her children wouldn't have to go through the racism she went through, however the man she married wasn't the man she had hoped for, he was cruel to her and all her six children. Mum suffered a very cruel life, she lived in fear of her father and people treated her like scum, she got married to dad when she was 33 and had four children. Me and my brothers also have been treated poorly by some people because of being part Romani. Unfortunatly there isn't a lot of information on my family since some of my family won't talk much, what I know is that quite a few family members were murdered in Nazi concentration camps, also my great grandma was experonmented on by doctors after the war and died. My Oma wishes her identity to be made secret, she doesn't want anyone to know she is Romani, she has had a hard life. My mum might talk about about it, but she has to think about it first. Mum's eMail address is "lia_bigmore@hotmail.com" Please keep in contact with me, I'd love to help out in any way I can with this documentary! I have been making a Timeline on the whole history of the Romani people, it dates from before 400 AD. to our modern times. It is still being made, but it has quite a lot of information on it! If you wish to view this Timeline go onto "Writing.com" and look up under "My Authors" the name "nebroc" and view my portfolio, in there there are tow timlines called "The Timeline of Romani (Gypsy) History". Hear from you soon! Corben. _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Amazing holiday rentals? http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eninemsn%2Erealestate%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Frsearch%3Fa%3Dbhp%26t%3Dhol%26cu%3DMSN&_t=758874163&_r=HM_Txt_Link_Holiday_Oct06&_m=EXT