Hi Bev and All Others, Yes Bev, the MULLERs have been so quiet lately, but perhaps it's time to wake them up. I must have some cousins out there somewhere!! To try to sort out The GESLER/ GESSLERs I went through the QLD DDMs earlier this year. I now have the same birth date for Johanna Wilhelmine GESLER but a different father. 1 Christian Friedrich GESSLER, m. Wilhelmina DRAGER, d. 3 October 1929,            1 Marie GESSLER, b. ca. 1863       2 Ferdinand Christian William GESSLER, b. 8 March 1866, d. 1875       3 Johann Friedrich Wilhelm GESLER, b. 5 January 1869, m. Wilhelmine         Johanna OPPERMANN           1 Johanna Wilhelmine GESLER, b. 13 April 1896, m. Frederick MULLER, 4 October 1921           2 Philipp Alexander GESLER, b. 10 May 1897           3 Christian Alvin GESLER, b. 24 January 1900, m. Sarah Jane BUTLER, 11             August 1934       4 Wilhelmine GESSLER, b. 26 September 1871, m. Herman A ZIRBEL, 1899       5 Frederich Wilhelm GESSLER, b. 15 October 1875, d. 1883       6 William GESLER, b. 2 May 1883 In the Hamburg Shipping List for the 'Cesar Godeffroy' 1865 that lists Johann Gottfried MULLER  his wife, Christine Louise MULLER (nee BAHLOW), their children, Ernestina Wilhelmina Karolin GESSLER (nee MULLER), b. 1843, her husband, Wilhelm GESSLER, Wilhelmina Frederick Louise MULLER, b. 1845, August Johann Christian MULLER, b. 22 September 1846, Friedericke Christina Louise MULLER, b. 22 November 1848 and Johann Gottfried MULLER, b. ca. 1852 there is also a Christian and Wilhelmine GRSSLER aged 28 and 23 respectively and their daughter, Marie aged 2. All from Grunberg, Prussia. I would be interested to know if Wilhelm and Christian GESSLER are related. Sorry, but I haven't any information about Frederick MULLER or Anna Augusta Helene BEUTEL, but her descendants would be related to me. Cheerio, Wendy ______________________________ > From: "Bev Kerlin" <kerlindavidbev@ozemail.com.au> > Date: Saturday, 8 June 2002 3:25 PM > To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: MÜLLER (sssshhh!) > > Hi All > > Wendy Thomas - are you there? I have a Johanna Wilhelmine GESLER born > 13.04.1895 married to a Friedrich MÜLLER, son of Carl Friedrich Wilhelm M... > and Amelia DIECKMANN. In your mail dated 28 Oct last you have a person of > this name born 1896. Could they be one and the same, do you know? > > You also have Anna Augusta Helene BEUTEL married to her sibling Gustoff > Hermann GESSLER. Would you happen to know anything about her family please > Wendy?? > > Sorry about this, but there are soooo many BEUTEL/MÜLLER/etc out there - > grrr! > > Bev >