Thanks Bev, I've forwarded that information on to Paul. I think his Charles/Carl would have been too young to be the father of Friederich, and the spouses don't match either. At least he has been able to eliminate that option. His Charles Timm went to America in 1864 from Schwerin, Mecklenberg, Germany and married Sophia FREESE b . 01 Jun 1841, Germany. Every little helps! Jill.