I recently purchased the FHLC on CD ROM from the LDS Distribution Centre at Carlingford. When I did a name search of the CD, I was shown only one record of the particular name whereas when I searched the LDS online facility I got dozens of references to that name. Is there a trick to searching the CD that I'm missing? Warren

Hi Warren If you are talking about the British Vital Records Index then your story is spot on! I have been trying to help some people in Ireland using that thing. It's hopeless, but once in a while - up will come a worthwhile one. Good Luck Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren" <warrain41@yahoo.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:58 PM Subject: LDS FHLC CD ROM > I recently purchased the FHLC on CD ROM from the LDS Distribution Centre at Carlingford. When I did a name search of the CD, I was shown only one record of the particular name whereas when I searched the LDS online facility I got dozens of references to that name. > Is there a trick to searching the CD that I'm missing? > > Warren > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear Warren, Bev and list, The FHLC CD ROM is a catalog/inventory of the microfilm/microfiche, rare and out of print books and publications held in the LDS Family History Centre in Salt Lake City, available for hire on film worldwide. It is NOT "familysearch" which is made up of entries and patrons submissions from the IGI, Pedigree files, Vital Records, Deposited Family Histories etc... found on the LDS website. Let's be realistic here, it is just not possible to reproduce all the available extracted entries from Church records and a variety of government and private collections on ONE CD ROM!!! The LDS website "familysearch" provides access not otherwise available to millions of records and indexes etc. at one site. The FHLC CD gives references and film numbers to where the primary documents can be located, you must hire the film personally to access the documents in their entirety. Always remember that not every name/place in every record held by the LDS is on the net. The FHLC on CD ROM allows you to browse micrographic and hard copy titles for detailed descriptions of items held in the Salt Lake City Family History Centre. Collectively these represent information on BILLIONS of individuals, contained in documents like church and civil registers, military, census, merchant marine, emigration, immigration, police, council, land, court, apprentiship records, private collections etc. They also include detailed information on historical maps, gazetteers, local histories, authors of published material contained in categories of documents you previously never knew existed. The FHLC CD ROM is invaluable if you know the name of the town/parish/state/county in the country of your ancestor's origin. You can very quickly find out if any records have been filmed for that town. This takes a few seconds on your home computer. Searching by NAME will only bring up the author of a publication or submission that the library holds in Utah. Searching by place or utilising the keyword option when looking for a particular group of records is far more rewarding. The keyword option is not given on the LDS website as it would bring up too many results to search on line at one time. I often browse certain categories of records looking for the title and location. It is just amazing what you find by accident! Warren, I presume you are searching for German and Australian records. Once you have established the category of documents you need, try a keyword search in German or English. Using both spellings (with or without umlauts) look for documents where you would expect to find your ancestors recorded. Titles might include Auswanderer= emigrant, Kirchenbüch=church book, Ortssippenbücher=town family lineage book, Familienbücher=family registers, Meldeamt=resident registers, Bürgerbücher or Bürgerlisten=citizenship books, Gilden or Zünfte=trade records etc..... A wonderful resourse is the CENSUS for Schleswig-Holstein, if your ancestors lived in this area. The following years are filmed 1769,1801,1803,1834,1835,1840,1845,1850, 1855 and 1860. Using a keyword title "Census Germany" you get 491 hits. Scroll down the menu to see if any records has been filmed for the area you are researching. If so click on the title and a further breakdown of titles will appear. Be sure to click on "view film notes" and or "view title details" if these options are given. You can then print off the title details and film numbers. Perhaps one of your ancestors' brother/sister migrated to America. The 1880 United States Census recording approximately 50 Million individuals is now available on CD ROM (a set of 57 CDs including the 4.0 viewer) for purchase and for viewing at your Mormon library. This census can be checked for missing German ancestors who may have applied to migrate in Germany to Australia but went to America instead. Next time you phone the lovely ladies at the Carlingford Disbrution Center, PO Box 2723, Carlingford Court NSW 2118. Ph. 1300 304 045, ask for some copies of the LDS RESEARCH OUTLINE to be posted to you. They are available for GERMANY, AUSTRALIA, POLAND, ENGLAND, SCOTLAND, IRELAND, WALES, DENMARK, NORWAY, SWEDEN, ITALY etc... and for most other countries in the world. These publications are invaluable as a guide to using the LDS holdings. Details are given of how records are collected and arranged, their classification and how to access them. In the German Research Outline there are two maps of Germany 1871-1918 & 1918-1945 showing the states at that time. Information and restrictions imposed on various records vary from country to country. The Research Outline for AUSTRALIA gives a summary of the records already filmed by the LDS. These titles include schools, orphanages, naturalization, court, convict, church, civil, obituaries, burial registers, probate, railways (like the Queensland Railways Central Division Employees'1866-1919 registers) just to mention a few. Have you checked to see if the Parish Registers of the town/area where your ancestors lived have been filmed? Perhaps you have paid for baptism/marriage/burial records, a certificate or transcription which has cost you $$$$$$$. Before ordering any records check your CD first, these records may have been filmed containing all the details you require and possibly more information on other members of your family. My understanding is that the LDS will shortly publish new research guides for some countries. Publication and cost details will appear on their website when they are for sale. Until these are available for purchase in Australia may I suggest that you avail yourselves of copies of "Research Outline" for the countries you are presently researching. PLEASE NOTE that "Research Outline" can be downloaded from the LDS website, Germany contains 52 pp, Australia 41 pp, England 61 pp, Ireland 48pp, Jewish 56pp, Scotland 47pp etc.... There is an informative leaflet for Scotland titled "Using the Scottish Church & Old Parochial Register(OPR) Index". Also very useful are the published "Genealogical Word Lists" for most European & Scandivian countries, download all these from the website. The bottom line is save $$$$$. Always check your FHLC on CD ROM first before paying for any records/research in any country worldwide including AUSTRALIA. A certificate you may have ordered can cost upwards of $15, printouts of the same record at your nearest Mormon library may cost less than $1. I apologize for the length of this response. I sincerely hope the above information will eliminate any confusion generated in accessing German and Australian records. The first step for German research in Australia, visit your nearest Mormon library. Happy Hunting Elizabeth >At 05:58 PM 22/01/2002 +1000, you wrote: >I recently purchased the FHLC on CD ROM from the LDS Distribution Centre at >Carlingford. When I did a name search of the CD, I was shown only one record of the >particular name whereas when I searched the LDS online facility I got dozens of >references to that name. >Is there a trick to searching the CD that I'm missing? > >Warren > > >Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:56:41 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: kerlindavidbev@ozemail.com.au Tue Jan 22 14:56:40 2002 >From: "Bev Kerlin" <kerlindavidbev@ozemail.com.au> >Old-To: "Warren" <warrain41@yahoo.com.au>, <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: LDS FHLC CD ROM >Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:56:18 +1000 > >Hi Warren > >If you are talking about the British Vital Records Index then your story is >spot on! >I have been trying to help some people in Ireland using that thing. It's >hopeless, but once in a while - up will come a worthwhile one. > >Good Luck >Bev