Firstly, Thanks very much Kevin for your assistance. Secondly, are any of the following name familiar to my fellow listers as they had relations throughout the South Coast or what is now known as the Gold Coast region, Lockyer Valley, Toowoomba, Northern NSW & Murwillumbah. ******************** Mary Agusta KRAMM born: 6 Dec 1891 father: Reinhold KRAMM mother: Mary Agusta ZROPF, Ref: Qld BDM 1891/007587 ******************** Mary Agusta KRAMM died: 11 Mar 1922 father: Christian ZROPF mother: Wilhelmina HANDROECK, Ref: Qld BDM 1922/B036759 (B is for Brisbane) ******************** Frederick Wilhelm Reinhold KRAMM died: 2 Mar 1936 father: Carl KRAMM mother: Wilhelmine SCHULZ, Ref: Qld BDM 1936/B030795 ******************** Frederick Wilhelm Reinhold KRAMM lived at Suter St Southport. His father was Carl KRAMM, mother was Wilhelmine SCHULZ Birthplace : Konigswalde, Sterberg Germany He was in Australia 56 years Probably arrived in Aus about 1880 He was married in Germany, 1st marriage to Aguster Wilhelmine Maria ZROPF 2nd marriage to Rahner formerly ISENCKER Children: Mary Anna 55 Probably born 1881 (Known as Annie) Frank Alfred 53 of Tring Terrace Toombul Brisbane a Carpenter Probably born 1883 Frederick Otto 51 of Askgrove Road Brisbane Probably born 1885 (Known as Otto) Aguster Bertha 48 Probably born 1888 Mary Aguster 44 Probably born 1892 Clara Minnie Helena 41 Probably born 1895 (Known as Minnie) Married Walter (Wattie) McLaren and lived in Murwillumbah ******************** --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.393 / Virus Database: 223 - Release Date: 1/10/2002