Werona, My uncles and a number of other relations are listed on the roll. I don't want to appear a smart alec but there was actually two wars fought between 1939 and 1946. The first war was against the Germans in Europe and the second was against the Japanese in the islands to the north of us. Many see this as being two separate wars. I mention this because I remember a story about a fellow who owned a property out form Pittsworth. The story was that he sub-divided his property among his six sons when the German war started so they would not be able to go and shoot their cousins. When the Japanese war started he resumed most of the blocks and put share farmers on them so that his sons could go to New Guinea and fight like mad for this their own country. Albert Grulke in mild old Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: Werona Armstrong [mailto:werona@bacchus.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 10 November 2002 5:47 AM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: On the topic of Wars... Has anyone else noticed that their German ancestors are not present on any of the nominal rolls? I have looked through WWI and WWII nominal rolls and found none of my SEEMANN ancestors. I even tried many different spellings that were anglicised. I know that during the war the family dropped the final "n" to avoid appearing "German" but perhaps there was still a loyalty to the motherland which caused them not to fight? However, they immigrated in 1862 so quite a long time had passed since leaving - and it would have been grandchildren and great grandchildren going to war - all whom would have been born in Australia. Any comments? Regards Werona ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In WW1 a Scottish lad left Queensland to fight the war in Germany, his Uncle had married a German woman in Queensland, I found out that Charles was killed in Messines Ridge on the 7th June 1917, his Uncles wife's nephew was fighting on the German side in the same battle and died on the 8th June 1917. I feel so sad these men among thousands of others lost there life, yet they were related. Sue Ipswich