Yvonne I don't quite understand. Are you after the names they were known by or those they were baptised with? Have you found their baptismal records yet.? [eg In my Krimmer family ...all the boys had Johann as their first baptismal name :) ! ] The first family of Wagners in Toowoomba were members of Henry WAGNER's family. He emigrated to Australia in 1856. He was born c1829 in Oberzell Hessen. parents Martin & Elizabeth. Judy > Judy > I do have my Wagner's shipping list. I know the family came from > Niederasphe in Kurhessen but I am sure the names I have for the > children are their second names. Thankyou for the help you gave. > Yvonne