Hi Folks Gaylene has sent me the Birth Certificate for Willie Otto - the son of Julius Otto MOLKENTINE and Matilda Louisa REDLIN. If you want me to send you this certificate, will you please email me direct with the above subject line, and I will reply with the attachment. [email protected] Gaylene sent it to the list, but the list does not support attachments, so I will send on for her. It is in 2 parts and over 1.5mb together. Thanks Gaylene Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich