----- Original Message ----- From: lois To: Chris Schmidt Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] ZILLMANN SCHAEFER ARNDT BRANDENBURG- Any connection with August ZILLMANN Chris - there were 3 main Zillmann families in Queensland as far as I can fathom. (1) The missionary Zillmann of Nundah was not connected as far as I know. (2) August Hugo Glabbert-Zillmann was distantly related to (3) C.F.W. Zillmann, my great grandfather. 'Our' family was - Marie Ernestine Z m. Wilhelm August Schimke, my grandmother Bertha Louise Z who married Wilhelm Paul Knopke, Wilhelm Friedrich Z, Adolf Carl Z, Carl August Z, Frank Max Z, Augusta Emilie Z m. Ludwig Richard Knopke, Ferdinand Ludwig Z, Gustav Albert Z and Frederick Z. Two of Ludwig Richard/Auguste Emilie Knopke's daughters married Zillmanns who were descendants of August Zillmann. One distant Beutel connection I know of is from my mother's side - Emma Johanne Auguste Kamp b. 1867 m. Ferdinand Beutel - don't have anything on descendants apart from what can be found in indexes - Emma Kamp's father Samuel was a brother of my great-great-grandmother Frederika Emilie Christina Kamp m. Christian Friedrich Draheim. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Schmidt To: aus-qld-se-germans@rootsweb.com ; nore7mac@optusnet.com.au Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] ZILLMANN SCHAEFER ARNDT BRANDENBURG- Any connection with August ZILLMANN Hi Lois I noticed your posting on Christian ZILLMANN. I have in my tree August Hugo Glabbert-Zillmann sometimes just called ZILLMANN. He was born 27 Mar 1841Brandenburg, Prussia d. 7 Aug 1917 Hatton Vale, Qld and married 4 Mar 1866 in Damme, Prenzlau, Brandenburg, Prussia Johanne Christine Wilhelmine SPRUNG b. 7 Jan 1844 Grenz, Prenzlau, Brandenburg, Prussia d. 22 Feb 1928 Hatton Vale, Qld. August is the son of Hugo GLABBERT and Wilhelmine Christine Luise ZILLMANN. Wilhelmine is the daughter Daniel ZILLMANN and Marie Elisabeth BEUTEL. Wilhelmine also had a brother Daniel. I was wondering is your Christian connected to August. I do know that a daughter of Christian ZILLMANN by the name of Auguste Emilie ZILLMANN b. 1884 married on the 10 Dec 1908 Ludwig Richard KNOPKE b. 12 Nov 1886 Hatton Vale. Their daughter Rosie Amanda Knopke b. 4 May 1913 in Laidley, Qld married Walter Richard ZILLMANN b. 5 May 1909. Walter is a grandson of the above August. I am interested in the ZILLMANN family for a number of reasons: I am tracing all BEUTEL descendants from Brandenburg to Queensland. We have had some success in tying the different branches together. Also two of Augusts grandsons marry into my Kapernick family as do other descendants. They also marry back into the Beutel family Regards Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: lois <nore7mac@optusnet.com.au> To: ausqldgers <aus-qld-se-germans@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, 19 June, 2010 2:26:32 PM Subject: [SEQ-Germans] ZILLMANN SCHAEFE R ARNDT BRANDENBURG EMIGRATION I have been reading comments about emigration with interest and for the first time checked out some of my ancestors on the Brandenburg Emigration Index. My grandmother's parents, C.F.W. ZILLLMAN (b. 1847) and Auguste Wilhelmine SCHAEFER (b. 1845) arrived in Queensland 16/07/1870 on the "Humboldt." Auguste's sister Marie Wilhelmine Ernestine Schaefer (b. 1859) m. August ARNDT arrived on 18/11/1884 on the "Merkara." The Schaefer parents, JOHANN JULIUS SCHAEFER (b. 1818) and Charlotte SCHMIDT (b. 1821 Schmoelln) came with them, Charlotte dying just four months after her arrival, and Johann Julius in 1907. There were details of all these emigrations in the Brandenburg register, but quite surprisingly, the whole Schaefer family - parents, these two daughters, plus two sons, are shown as going to, or applying to go to, Africa in 1858, and then Russia in 1862. It seems unlikely that they would actually have gone, and then returned to their place of origin (Eikstedt). Thus it m! ust have been easier to get permission to go than to actually go. It does sound as though people in general were desperate to get away. Has anyone else found ancestors applying to go to different countries at different times like this? Lois Cameron. Archives - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-SE-GERMANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2945 - Release Date: 06/17/10 18:35:00