Hi Anna I sent this message earlier but I forgot to change the subject heading from a previous topic, and as it was not an accurate heading I thought I would resend. I hate it when other people do that- change topic and dont change subject headings- and I did it myself -naughty boy that I am! Just seeing a message you sent to the south-east Qld list reminded me we had spoken regarding the BACHMANN family. I promised to send you information showing the connection between the Bachmann family and the BEUTELS and some of the Kapernicks- I already promised this some time ago. Here we go: 1. Christian Friedrich BEUTEL b. 19 Sept 1834 Schmoelln, Prenzlau, Brandenburg, Prussia d. 24 Jul 1913 Lilydale, Queensland, Buried: 25 Jul 1913 Helidon, Queensland m. Wilhelmine Johanne ROHUE b. Abt 1830      2. Wilhelm Friedrich BEUTEL b. 1859 Schmoelln, Prenzlau, Brandenburg,      Prussia      m. 23 Mar 1882 Marburg, Qld Augusta HOEPNER b. 1861 Stegelitz, Brandenburg,      Prussia d. 8 Dec      1948 Brisbane, Qld, Buried: Kalbar, Queensland.      2. Wilhelmine Marie Elisabeth Beutel b. 29 Sept 1862 23 Schmoelln,      Brandenburg, Prussia d.  23  Dec 1951 Marburg, Qld, Buried:  29 Dec 1951 Marburg, Qld      m. 20 Sept 1888 Brisbane, Qld Wilhelm Christoph BACHMANN b. Abt 1869 d. 8      Aug 1948 Marburg, Qld Buried: Marburg, Qld      Father: Christian Gottlieb BACHMANN      Mother: Wilhelmine KELLER           3. Frederick Wilhelm BACHMANN b. 10 Nov 1889 Marburg, Qld d. 20 Jun 1968 Qld           m. 1910 Qld Mary Minnie SIPPEL b. 9 Jul 1892 Qld d. 12 Aug 1956 Qld           Father: Johann Friedrich SIPPEL            Mother: Anna Elisabeth NEURATH           3. Wilhelm Christoff BACHMANN b. 4 Aug 1891 Qld d. 6 Feb 1976 Qld           m. 1. Esther SIPPEL b. 8 Jun 1897 d. 18 Oct 1922 Qld           m. 2. Elsie Alvina LESCHKE b. 12 Feb 1910 Qld d. 24 Oct 1935 Qld           Father: August Wilhelm LESCHKE           Mother: Alvina Auguste KRAUSE           3. Marie Karoline "Mary" BACHMANN b. 31 Jan 1893 Marburg, Qld d. 6 Mar 1988 Bundaberg, Qld           m. 21 Oct 1914 Ipswich, Qld Edward Herbert BARRETT b. 8 Jun 1895 Ipswich, Qld d. 8 Aug 1960           Brisbane, Qld           3. Ludwig Heinrich "Henry"  BACHMANN b. 4 Aug 1894           m. 25 Apr 1914 Lily HOHNKE b. 1 Mar 1896 d. 11 Jun 1971 Qld ( I believe you told me before that this           couple were your grandparents. I have eight children for them in my files)           3. Otto BACHMANN b.13 Oct 1896                       m.  ??????           3. Charlie BACHMANN b. Abt 1896 d. 27 Sept 1898 Qld           3. - BACHMANN ( stillborn female)           3. Wilhelmine Johanna "Minnie" BACHMANN b. 5 Jan 1901 Qld d. 6 Oct 1988 Marburg, Qld           m. 11 Oct 1922 Marburg, Qld  Edward Albert GERBER b. 24 Feb 1900           Marburg, Qld d. 6 Oct  1947 Marburg, Qld           Father: Hermann Ferdinand GERBER           Mother: Rosa Pauline KLATT           3. Emma Elizabeth KRAUSE b. 13 May 1902 Qld           m. 25 Sept 1926  Qld Theodore William KRAUSE b. 7 Dec 1904 Qld d. 4 Aug 1970 Qld            Father: Albert Heinrich KRAUSE           Mother: Mary KOCH           3. Arnold Walter BACHMANN b. b. 14 Oct 1904 Qld           m. 6 Feb 1932 Elsie Mary STEGEMANN b. 13 Aug 1911 Qld d. 7 Nov 1994 Qld           Father: Heinrich "Harold" Friedrich STEGEMANN           m. Alma FELDHAHN           3.  Herbert Arthur BACHMANN b. 19 Sept 1907 Marburg, Qld d. 19 Apr 1976 Qld           m. 6 Oct 1931 Marburg, Qld Lily Bertha GERBER b. 20 Apr 1908 Qld  d. 15 Dec 1993           Father: Hermann Ferdinand GERBER           Mother: Rosa Pauline KLATT      2. Christian Friedrich BEUTEL b. 11 Sept 1864 Schmoelln, Brandenburg, Pussia d. 9 Mar 1931       Toowoomba, Qld Buried: 10 Mar 1931 Helidon, Qld      m. 1. Berthe Auguste Helene MULLER b. 24 Feb 1865 d. 21 Mar 1917 Dalby Hospital, Dalby, Qld      m. 2 Johanne Martha Elizabeth WILLMANN b. 11 Mar 1884      Father: Friedrich Wilhelm August WILLMANN      Mother: Johanne Marie Elizabeth RUTHENBERG      2. August Gottlieb BEUTEL b. 19 Oct 1870 Schmoelln, Brandenburg, Prussia d. 23 Jul 1959 Cleveland, Qld      m. Wilhelmine Friedericke REINHARDT b. 29 Aug 1882 Marburg, Qld d. 28 Jun 1959 Cleveland, Qld      Father: Carl REINHARDT      Mother Frederika BOBBERMIN      2. Marie Johanne Wilhelmine Augusta Marie "Mary" BEUTEL b. 872 Schmolln,       Brandenburg, Prussia d. 18 Jan 1952 Toowoomba, Qld      m. 11 Aug 1892 Walloon Qld Hermann Friedrich Wilhelm KAPERNICK b. 14 Sept 1871 Vierraden,      Brandenburg, Prussia d. 11 Jul 1959 Toowoomba, Qld      Father: Michael Friedrich KAPERNICK      Mother: Sophie Wilhelmine Emelie DIETRICH   Marie BEUTEL and Hermann Kapernick are my great-grandparents. I am focusing my research on the Kaperncik family at the moment but I am happy to share anything I have on living descendants privately. Regards Chris