From: Chris Schmidt [mailto:chris_schmidt@y7mail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 8 March 2011 9:55 AM To: aus-qld-se-germans@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Attn: Anna Bell: WITTENHAGEN-VORPAGEL- KOHLER- Connection withMuller- Itzstein Funeral Hi Yes, Ted Itzstein is a brother to Maud MULLER. Did you see my message about the BACHMANN family and its connection with Kapernick and Beutel- I sent it both to your private address and the list. I go back on the families that marry into my tree as well and because there are several connections I have some data on the WITTENHAGEN Family. Here is what I have ( I have more information on some lines that I won't post here and will send privately) Descendants of Carl Friedrich WITTENHAGEN 1. Carl Friedrich WITTENHAGEN (b.1813-Germany;d.23 May 1879-Queensland) sp: Louise BARTEL (b.1813-Germany;d.14 May 1885-Queensland) 2. Wilhelmine Friedericke WITTENHAGEN (b.1842-Prussia;d.16 Jan 1899-Queensland) sp: Carl L. Heinrich "Charles" VORPAGEL (b.27 Jan 1839-Germany;d.5 Nov 1885-Queensland) 3. Maria VORPAGEL (b.Abt 1869-Prussia;d.Abt 1943-Queensland,Australia) sp: Johann KOHLER (b.Abt 1864-Prussia;m.6 Jun 1889;d.Abt 1949) 4. Emma Emilie KOHLER (b.15 Dec 1890-Queensland;d.23 Apr 1988- Wondai,Queensland,Australia) sp: Wilhelm Friedrich MULLER (b.5 Oct 1890-Queensland;m.31 Oct 1912;d.30 Oct 1983- Wondai,Q,Australia ( This line also connects with Kapernick via Reinke) 4. Anna Augusta"" Louise KOHLER (b.14 Feb 1893) sp: Friedrich August Wilhelm WILLMANN (b.6 Jan 1887-Queensland;m.Abt 1910;d.13 Jun 1966-Q,Australia) 4. Carl Albert "Charlie" KOHLER (b.21 May 1895-Queensland) 4. Frida Franziska KOHLER (b.22 Apr 1897-Queensland) sp: Alfred WENDT (b.6 Sep 1896-Queensland) 4. Theresa Wilhelmine KOHLER (b.24 Jun 1900-Queensland) sp: Hermann WENDT (b.21 Aug 1895;m.Abt 1921) 4. Johann Edward KOHLER (b.9 Apr 1904-Queensland,Australia) sp: Violet LINDSAY 4. Marie Alvena KOHLER (b.9 Apr 1904-Queensland,Australia) sp: William Charles KERKOW (b.6 Sep 1905-Queensland,Australia;m.16 Jul 1927;d.16 Jul 1974 4. Margarette Alma KOHLER (b.12 Jul 1905-Tarampa,Queensland,Australia;d.15 Sep 1986- Queensland,Australia sp: Theodor "Ted" ITZSTEIN (b.29 Oct 1910-R,Q,Australia;m.31 Jul 1937;d.22 Aug 2000- Laidley,Q,Australia) 4. Elizabeth KOHLER (b.Bef 11 May 1911) sp: Wal RASMUSSEN 3. Augusta Emma VORPAGEL (b.Abt 1871-Prussia;d.Abt 1873) 3. Louise VORPAGEL (b.Abt 1873-Prussia;d.Abt 1874-Queensland) 3. Frederick Wilhelm VORPAGEL (b.Abt 1875-Queensland;d.Abt 1937-Queensland,Australia) sp: Mary Knatie RIECK (b.Abt 1880-At sea;m.Abt 1899) 3. Emma Amelia VORPAGEL (b.Abt 1877;d.20 Jan 1935-Queensland,Australia) sp: Albert Gustav KAMP (b.Abt 1880;m.Abt 1898;d.14 Feb 1951-Queensland,Australia) 4. Wilhelm Friedrich "Bill" KAMP b.1898-Lowood,Queensland,Australia;d.24 Sep 1963- Toowoomba,Q,Australia sp: Alice Fleurine "Rene" PAROZ b.Abt 1907-Q,Australia;m.Abt 1924;d.22 Aug 1993- Queensland,Australia 3. Carl Albert Heinrich VORPAGEL (b.8 Jul 1880-Queensland;d.26 Sep 1965- Queensland,Australia sp: Malvine Pauline Hedwige KAMP (b.19 Feb 1882-Queensland;m.10 Feb 1904;d.22 Jun 1960- Queensland,Australia) 4. Rennie Samuel VORPAGEL (b.11 Jan 1905-Queensland,Australia;d.22 May 1990- Queensland,Australia) sp: Phyllis Jane BEUTEL (b.24 Mar 1907-Q,Australia;m.12 Feb 1930;d.15 Feb 1978- Queensland,Australia) 3. Wilhelmine Friedericke VORPAGEL (b.Abt 1885-Queensland;d.Abt 1886-Queensland) 3. Carl "Heinrich" VORPAGEL (b.Abt 1885-Queensland;d.Abt 1886-Queensland) 2. Johanna WITTENHAGEN (b.12 May 1848-Germany;d.25 May 1917-Queensland) sp: August BERNHAGEN (b.1847;m.13 Sep 1873;d.13 Dec 1931) 3. Augusta Louisa BERNHAGEN (b.26 Oct 1874-Lowood,Queensland;d.21 Aug 1954- Lowood,Queensland,Australia) sp: August Friedrich FELDHAHN (b.21 Jun 1870-VVL,Queensland;m.29 Nov 1893;d.13 Jul 1930 -Lowood,Q,Australia) 4. Herman Edward FELDHAHN (b.16 Apr 1894-Lowood,Queensland;d.6 Mar 1989- Boonah,Queensland,Australia) sp: Helena Malvena DENNING (b.19 Dec 1899-Lowood,Queensland;m.17 Oct 1917;d.13 Jul 1985-I,Q,Australia) 4. Henry Norman FELDHAHN (b.13 Apr 1896-Lowood,Queensland;d.11 Nov 1977- Ipswich,Queensland,Australia) sp: Emma MEIER (b.25 Oct 1897-Esk,Queensland;m.2 Sep 1919;d.9 Apr 1983- Ipswich,Queensland,Australia) 4. Arthur William FELDHAHN (b.9 Mar 1898-Lowood,Queensland;d.26 Oct 1987- Brisbane,Queensland,Australia) sp: Agnes NORTHOVER (b.2 Nov 1901-Brisbane,Q,Australia;m.26 Sep 1922;d.21 Jun 1985 -Brisbane,Q,Australia) 4. Frederick Charles FELDHAHN (b.11 Jan 1901-Lowood,Queensland,Australia;d.9 Jul 1996 -Ipswich,Q,Australia) sp: Alice Maud PRINCE (b.16 Oct 1911-Oakey,Q,Australia;m.3 Feb 1934;d.12 Oct 1988- Brisbane,Q,Australia) 4. Hilda May "Ciss" FELDHAHN (b.18 Jun 1904-Lowood,Queensland,Australia;d.24 Jun 1986-Lowood,Q,Australia) sp: George ANDERSON (b.9 May 1901-C,Q,Australia;m.30 Sep 1933;d.15 May 1966- Laidley,Q,Australia) 4. Roland George FELDHAHN (b.26 Mar 1906-Lowood,Queensland,Australia;d.15 Apr 1988-Sandgate,Q,Australia) sp: Dorothy MCCARTHY, ELMER (b.11 Oct 1911;m.15 Jun 1940) 4. Norman John FELDHAHN (b.11 Aug 1908-Lowood,Queensland,Australia;b.Monday- Albany Creek,Q,Australia) sp: Cecelia Bridget MCCARTHY (b.31 Jan 1908-Ipswich,Queensland,Australia; m.9 Nov 1939 Laidley d.31 Aug 1988 Brisbane, Qld 4. Ivy Florence FELDHAHN (b.12 Aug 1910-Lowood,Queensland,Australia) sp: Thomas William FOX (b.5 Sep 1908-Queensland,Australia;m.23 Oct 1935;d.2 Jan 1984- Buaraba via Esk,Q,Australia) 4. Cora Elfreda FELDHAHN (b.12 Dec 1912-Lowood,Queensland,Australia) Norman CLARSON (b.1 Mar 1912-Esk,Q,Australia;m.16 Apr 1938;d.24 Sep 1977- Laidley,Q,Australia) 2. Bertha WITTENHAGEN (b.1851-Prussia,Germany) sp: Albert BANDIDTT (b.1848-Deutsch Krone,W. Prussia,Germany) 2. Emilie Ernestine WITTENHAGEN (b.1856-Germany;d.1935) sp: Michael KERLIN (b.1855-Germany;m.10 Jun 1876;d.1890-Gatton,Queensland) 3. Bertha Auguste KERLIN sp: Michael C VON MENDE 4. Robert VON MENDE (b.11 Nov 1895-Queensland;d.28 Apr 1982-Hatton Vale,Queensland,Australia) sp: Wilhelmine HUBNER (b.23 Jan 1900-Queensland;m.25 Sep 1919;d.27 Sep 1950- Queensland,Australia) 4. Alvina VON MENDE (b.20 Sep 1897-Queensland;d.Nov 1970- Laidley,Queensland,Australia) sp: William Frederick Alfred ZIEBELL (b.12 May 1892;m.21 Aug 1918;d.26 Feb 1969- Laidley,Queensland,Australia) 4. Ernest VON MENDE sp: UNKNOWN sp: Margaret MINKE 4. Eddie VON MENDE sp: Lily POWELL 4. Della VON MENDE sp: John GARTNER 4. Cecil VON MENDE sp: Joan BOYES 4. Violet VON MENDE sp: David RIECK (b.18 Jul 1902-Queensland,Australia) 4. Alice VON MENDE sp: Robert BRENNAN 4. Benjamin VON MENDE sp: Clare HOBBS 3. Marie Louise Ernestine KERLIN sp: Carl Frederick William NIETHE 4. William NIETHE sp: Bethina STEGEMANN (b.19 Dec 1904-Queensland,Australia) 4. Heinrich NIETHE 4. Minnie NIETHE (b.1905-Queensland,Australia;d.1994-Queensland,Australia) sp: Erick Otto DARGUSCH (b.28 Jul 1905-Tarampa,Q,Australia;m.1933;d.12 Dec 1975- Queensland,Australia) 4. David NIETHE 4. Arthur NIETHE 4. Benjamin NIETHE (d.19 Jan 1984 or Feb 1984-Esk,Queensland,Australia) sp: Doris Lilian GOOS (b.6 Jun 1910-Laidley,Queensland,Australia) 4. Lilian NIETHE sp: Herbert STEFFENS Violet NIETHE sp: George HINE sp: Victor HUMRICH 4. Josephine NIETHE sp: Alfred HANNANT (b.1916-Queensland,Australia) 3. Emma KERLIN sp: Wilhelm HUMRICH 3. Augusta KERLIN sp: Arthur YOUNG 3. Eda KERLIN sp: Herman DARGUSCH 3. Wilhelm KERLIN 3. Minnie KERLIN 2. Albertine Louise WITTENHAGEN (b.3 Oct 1860-Damlang,Deutschkrone,Prussia;d.4 Dec 1942- Teviotville,Q,Australia) sp: August Hermann FRITZ (b.12 Aug 1853-Prussia;m.18 May 1880;d.4 Dec 1942- Boonah,Queensland,Australia) 3. Karl Friedrich Albert FRITZ (b.22 May 1881-Teviotville,Queensland;d.18 May 1961- Ipswich,Queensland,Australia.) sp: Anna Amelia DOMJAHN (b.19 Feb 1881-T,Queensland;m.16 Apr 1903;d.30 Nov 1946- Ipswich,Q,Australia) 3. Auguste Louise FRITZ (b.29 Jul 1882-Teviotville,Queensland;d.15 Aug 1961- Queensland,Australia) sp: Carl "Charles" Friedrich DIECKMANN (b.15 Apr 1877-Engelsburg,Queensland;m.29 Jul 1903 d.18 Aug 1950-) 4. Walter Leslie Harold DIECKMANN (b.2 Feb 1905-Queensland,Australia;d.29 Mar 1905- Queensland,Australia) 4. Irskine DIECKMANN 4. Eckhardt Hubert DIECKMANN (b.15 Mar 1908-Queensland,Australia;d.13 Sep 2001- Queensland,Australia) sp: Viola Agnes BUHSE (b.19 Aug 1915-Queensland,Australia;d.22 Dec 1998- Queensland,Australia) 5. Neville DIECKMANN sp: Valerie Joyce LOBEGEIGER (b.13 Jul 1939-Queensland,Australia;m.25 Feb 1986) 4. Percy Ceril DIECKMANN (b.19 Nov 1910-Queensland,Australia;d.3 Nov 1982- Ipswich,Queensland,Australia) sp: Gladys Wilhelmine BERLIN (b.1 Jul 1910-Queensland,Australia) 4. Leslie "Victor" DIECKMANN sp: Grace STALLMAN 4. Mervyn DIECKMANN sp: Hazel KRUGER 3. Wilhelm Herman FRITZ (b.15 Dec 1884) sp: Clara SONNENBERG 3. Emma Helena FRITZ (b.28 Jul 1887-Teviotville,Queensland;d.25 May 1950- Fassifern,Queensland,Australia) sp: Emil Adolf DOMJAHN (b.29 Sep 1886-FS,Queensland;m.8 Jul 1908;d.23 Oct 1930- Kalbar,Queensland,Australia) sp: Wilhelm Friedrich LITZOW (b.18 Mar 1888-Queensland) 3. George Carl FRITZ (b.9 Jun 1890) sp: Louisa WENZEL 3. Heinrich FRITZ sp: Sophie GERCHOW 3. Arthur Wilhelm FRITZ sp: Matilda BEUTEL (b.1896-Queensland) 3. Sophie FRITZ sp: Fred WENZEL 3. Reinhold Carl FRITZ (b.8 Aug 1902-Teviotville,Queensland,Australia;d.30 Apr 1971- 3. Brisbane,Queensland,Australia) sp: Fanny Rose BAILEY (b.24 Sep 1910-Brisbane,Queensland,Australia;m.27 Oct 1943) 2. Hermann WITTENHAGEN (b.9 Sep 1864-Germany;d.30 Aug 1912- Boonah,Queensland,Australia) sp: Emilie Maria Ulrike MARQUARDT (b.17 Mar 1865-Germany;m.25 Oct 1888;d.13 Aug 1956- Boonah,Q,Australia) 3. Augusta Mary Louisa ("Lily Marie") WITTENHAGEN (b.26 Oct 1889-Qld,Australia; d.11 Sep 1982 Boonah Shire, Queensland sp: Heinrich Wilhelm DRAHEIM (b.19 Nov 1887-Qld,Australia;m.18 Jan 1911 d.21 Apr 1951 3. Bertha Emile Helene WITTENHAGEN (b.27 Nov 1891; d.3 Jul 1970 Boonah, Qld, Australia) 3. Friedrich Wilhelm Hermann WITTENHAGEN (b.11 Dec 1893-Qld,Australia;d.22 May 1977 Boonah, Queensland, Australia 3. Heinrich Albert August WITTENHAGEN (b.8 Apr 1898-Qld,Australia;d.10 Oct 1898- Boonah,Qld,Australia) 3. Ernest Edward Carl WITTENHAGEN (b.14 Mar 1901;d.14 May 1980-79yrs Old Boonah Shire, Qld Anna, if you or anyone else can add any dates or information to what I have here, it would be appreciated. Regards Chris ________________________________ From: Anna Bell <anna670@gmail.com> To: aus-qld-se-germans@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 6 March, 2011 1:23:57 PM Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Funeral Notice The Chronicle and Qld Times- Maud Phyllis MULLER (nee ITZSTEIN)- Connection with Kapernick Hello Chris I have a Theodore Itzstein 1910 / 2000 s/o Lother Itztein and Henrietta Auguste Kapernick . He married Margaret Alma Kohler 1905/1986. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5946 (20110311) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Hi Chris, I am Kevin Niethe a descendant on your list ,but I have to offer some corrections, namely Carl was my grandfather & his son was Wilhelm Otto not William & my mother's name was Bithia Stegemann I had a brother Rennie who died in 1937&a sister named Wilma who died in 1945 from polio Icould supply the whole Niethe family if you wish. Regards K A Niethe -----Original Message----- From: Lorrae [mailto:lorrae@uqconnect.net] Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2011 1:52 PM To: aus-qld-se-germans@rootsweb.com Subject: [SEQ-Germans] FW: Attn: Anna Bell: WITTENHAGEN-VORPAGEL- KOHLER-Connection withMuller- Itzstein Funeral From: Chris Schmidt [mailto:chris_schmidt@y7mail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 8 March 2011 9:55 AM To: aus-qld-se-germans@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Attn: Anna Bell: WITTENHAGEN-VORPAGEL- KOHLER- Connection withMuller- Itzstein Funeral Hi Yes, Ted Itzstein is a brother to Maud MULLER. Did you see my message about the BACHMANN family and its connection with Kapernick and Beutel- I sent it both to your private address and the list. I go back on the families that marry into my tree as well and because there are several connections I have some data on the WITTENHAGEN Family. Here is what I have ( I have more information on some lines that I won't post here and will send privately) Descendants of Carl Friedrich WITTENHAGEN 1. Carl Friedrich WITTENHAGEN (b.1813-Germany;d.23 May 1879-Queensland) sp: Louise BARTEL (b.1813-Germany;d.14 May 1885-Queensland) 2. Wilhelmine Friedericke WITTENHAGEN (b.1842-Prussia;d.16 Jan 1899-Queensland) sp: Carl L. Heinrich "Charles" VORPAGEL (b.27 Jan 1839-Germany;d.5 Nov 1885-Queensland) 3. Maria VORPAGEL (b.Abt 1869-Prussia;d.Abt 1943-Queensland,Australia) sp: Johann KOHLER (b.Abt 1864-Prussia;m.6 Jun 1889;d.Abt 1949) 4. Emma Emilie KOHLER (b.15 Dec 1890-Queensland;d.23 Apr 1988- Wondai,Queensland,Australia) sp: Wilhelm Friedrich MULLER (b.5 Oct 1890-Queensland;m.31 Oct 1912;d.30 Oct 1983- Wondai,Q,Australia ( This line also connects with Kapernick via Reinke) 4. Anna Augusta"" Louise KOHLER (b.14 Feb 1893) sp: Friedrich August Wilhelm WILLMANN (b.6 Jan 1887-Queensland;m.Abt 1910;d.13 Jun 1966-Q,Australia) 4. Carl Albert "Charlie" KOHLER (b.21 May 1895-Queensland) 4. Frida Franziska KOHLER (b.22 Apr 1897-Queensland) sp: Alfred WENDT (b.6 Sep 1896-Queensland) 4. Theresa Wilhelmine KOHLER (b.24 Jun 1900-Queensland) sp: Hermann WENDT (b.21 Aug 1895;m.Abt 1921) 4. Johann Edward KOHLER (b.9 Apr 1904-Queensland,Australia) sp: Violet LINDSAY 4. Marie Alvena KOHLER (b.9 Apr 1904-Queensland,Australia) sp: William Charles KERKOW (b.6 Sep 1905-Queensland,Australia;m.16 Jul 1927;d.16 Jul 1974 4. Margarette Alma KOHLER (b.12 Jul 1905-Tarampa,Queensland,Australia;d.15 Sep 1986- Queensland,Australia sp: Theodor "Ted" ITZSTEIN (b.29 Oct 1910-R,Q,Australia;m.31 Jul 1937;d.22 Aug 2000- Laidley,Q,Australia) 4. Elizabeth KOHLER (b.Bef 11 May 1911) sp: Wal RASMUSSEN 3. Augusta Emma VORPAGEL (b.Abt 1871-Prussia;d.Abt 1873) 3. Louise VORPAGEL (b.Abt 1873-Prussia;d.Abt 1874-Queensland) 3. Frederick Wilhelm VORPAGEL (b.Abt 1875-Queensland;d.Abt 1937-Queensland,Australia) sp: Mary Knatie RIECK (b.Abt 1880-At sea;m.Abt 1899) 3. Emma Amelia VORPAGEL (b.Abt 1877;d.20 Jan 1935-Queensland,Australia) sp: Albert Gustav KAMP (b.Abt 1880;m.Abt 1898;d.14 Feb 1951-Queensland,Australia) 4. Wilhelm Friedrich "Bill" KAMP b.1898-Lowood,Queensland,Australia;d.24 Sep 1963- Toowoomba,Q,Australia sp: Alice Fleurine "Rene" PAROZ b.Abt 1907-Q,Australia;m.Abt 1924;d.22 Aug 1993- Queensland,Australia 3. Carl Albert Heinrich VORPAGEL (b.8 Jul 1880-Queensland;d.26 Sep 1965- Queensland,Australia sp: Malvine Pauline Hedwige KAMP (b.19 Feb 1882-Queensland;m.10 Feb 1904;d.22 Jun 1960- Queensland,Australia) 4. Rennie Samuel VORPAGEL (b.11 Jan 1905-Queensland,Australia;d.22 May 1990- Queensland,Australia) sp: Phyllis Jane BEUTEL (b.24 Mar 1907-Q,Australia;m.12 Feb 1930;d.15 Feb 1978- Queensland,Australia) 3. Wilhelmine Friedericke VORPAGEL (b.Abt 1885-Queensland;d.Abt 1886-Queensland) 3. Carl "Heinrich" VORPAGEL (b.Abt 1885-Queensland;d.Abt 1886-Queensland) 2. Johanna WITTENHAGEN (b.12 May 1848-Germany;d.25 May 1917-Queensland) sp: August BERNHAGEN (b.1847;m.13 Sep 1873;d.13 Dec 1931) 3. Augusta Louisa BERNHAGEN (b.26 Oct 1874-Lowood,Queensland;d.21 Aug 1954- Lowood,Queensland,Australia) sp: August Friedrich FELDHAHN (b.21 Jun 1870-VVL,Queensland;m.29 Nov 1893;d.13 Jul 1930 -Lowood,Q,Australia) 4. Herman Edward FELDHAHN (b.16 Apr 1894-Lowood,Queensland;d.6 Mar 1989- Boonah,Queensland,Australia) sp: Helena Malvena DENNING (b.19 Dec 1899-Lowood,Queensland;m.17 Oct 1917;d.13 Jul 1985-I,Q,Australia) 4. Henry Norman FELDHAHN (b.13 Apr 1896-Lowood,Queensland;d.11 Nov 1977- Ipswich,Queensland,Australia) sp: Emma MEIER (b.25 Oct 1897-Esk,Queensland;m.2 Sep 1919;d.9 Apr 1983- Ipswich,Queensland,Australia) 4. Arthur William FELDHAHN (b.9 Mar 1898-Lowood,Queensland;d.26 Oct 1987- Brisbane,Queensland,Australia) sp: Agnes NORTHOVER (b.2 Nov 1901-Brisbane,Q,Australia;m.26 Sep 1922;d.21 Jun 1985 -Brisbane,Q,Australia) 4. Frederick Charles FELDHAHN (b.11 Jan 1901-Lowood,Queensland,Australia;d.9 Jul 1996 -Ipswich,Q,Australia) sp: Alice Maud PRINCE (b.16 Oct 1911-Oakey,Q,Australia;m.3 Feb 1934;d.12 Oct 1988- Brisbane,Q,Australia) 4. Hilda May "Ciss" FELDHAHN (b.18 Jun 1904-Lowood,Queensland,Australia;d.24 Jun 1986-Lowood,Q,Australia) sp: George ANDERSON (b.9 May 1901-C,Q,Australia;m.30 Sep 1933;d.15 May 1966- Laidley,Q,Australia) 4. Roland George FELDHAHN (b.26 Mar 1906-Lowood,Queensland,Australia;d.15 Apr 1988-Sandgate,Q,Australia) sp: Dorothy MCCARTHY, ELMER (b.11 Oct 1911;m.15 Jun 1940) 4. Norman John FELDHAHN (b.11 Aug 1908-Lowood,Queensland,Australia;b.Monday- Albany Creek,Q,Australia) sp: Cecelia Bridget MCCARTHY (b.31 Jan 1908-Ipswich,Queensland,Australia; m.9 Nov 1939 Laidley d.31 Aug 1988 Brisbane, Qld 4. Ivy Florence FELDHAHN (b.12 Aug 1910-Lowood,Queensland,Australia) sp: Thomas William FOX (b.5 Sep 1908-Queensland,Australia;m.23 Oct 1935;d.2 Jan 1984- Buaraba via Esk,Q,Australia) 4. Cora Elfreda FELDHAHN (b.12 Dec 1912-Lowood,Queensland,Australia) Norman CLARSON (b.1 Mar 1912-Esk,Q,Australia;m.16 Apr 1938;d.24 Sep 1977- Laidley,Q,Australia) 2. Bertha WITTENHAGEN (b.1851-Prussia,Germany) sp: Albert BANDIDTT (b.1848-Deutsch Krone,W. Prussia,Germany) 2. Emilie Ernestine WITTENHAGEN (b.1856-Germany;d.1935) sp: Michael KERLIN (b.1855-Germany;m.10 Jun 1876;d.1890-Gatton,Queensland) 3. Bertha Auguste KERLIN sp: Michael C VON MENDE 4. Robert VON MENDE (b.11 Nov 1895-Queensland;d.28 Apr 1982-Hatton Vale,Queensland,Australia) sp: Wilhelmine HUBNER (b.23 Jan 1900-Queensland;m.25 Sep 1919;d.27 Sep 1950- Queensland,Australia) 4. Alvina VON MENDE (b.20 Sep 1897-Queensland;d.Nov 1970- Laidley,Queensland,Australia) sp: William Frederick Alfred ZIEBELL (b.12 May 1892;m.21 Aug 1918;d.26 Feb 1969- Laidley,Queensland,Australia) 4. Ernest VON MENDE sp: UNKNOWN sp: Margaret MINKE 4. Eddie VON MENDE sp: Lily POWELL 4. Della VON MENDE sp: John GARTNER 4. Cecil VON MENDE sp: Joan BOYES 4. Violet VON MENDE sp: David RIECK (b.18 Jul 1902-Queensland,Australia) 4. Alice VON MENDE sp: Robert BRENNAN 4. Benjamin VON MENDE sp: Clare HOBBS 3. Marie Louise Ernestine KERLIN sp: Carl Frederick William NIETHE 4. William NIETHE sp: Bethina STEGEMANN (b.19 Dec 1904-Queensland,Australia) 4. Heinrich NIETHE 4. Minnie NIETHE (b.1905-Queensland,Australia;d.1994-Queensland,Australia) sp: Erick Otto DARGUSCH (b.28 Jul 1905-Tarampa,Q,Australia;m.1933;d.12 Dec 1975- Queensland,Australia) 4. David NIETHE 4. Arthur NIETHE 4. Benjamin NIETHE (d.19 Jan 1984 or Feb 1984-Esk,Queensland,Australia) sp: Doris Lilian GOOS (b.6 Jun 1910-Laidley,Queensland,Australia) 4. Lilian NIETHE sp: Herbert STEFFENS Violet NIETHE sp: George HINE sp: Victor HUMRICH 4. Josephine NIETHE sp: Alfred HANNANT (b.1916-Queensland,Australia) 3. Emma KERLIN sp: Wilhelm HUMRICH 3. Augusta KERLIN sp: Arthur YOUNG 3. Eda KERLIN sp: Herman DARGUSCH 3. Wilhelm KERLIN 3. Minnie KERLIN 2. Albertine Louise WITTENHAGEN (b.3 Oct 1860-Damlang,Deutschkrone,Prussia;d.4 Dec 1942- Teviotville,Q,Australia) sp: August Hermann FRITZ (b.12 Aug 1853-Prussia;m.18 May 1880;d.4 Dec 1942- Boonah,Queensland,Australia) 3. Karl Friedrich Albert FRITZ (b.22 May 1881-Teviotville,Queensland;d.18 May 1961- Ipswich,Queensland,Australia.) sp: Anna Amelia DOMJAHN (b.19 Feb 1881-T,Queensland;m.16 Apr 1903;d.30 Nov 1946- Ipswich,Q,Australia) 3. Auguste Louise FRITZ (b.29 Jul 1882-Teviotville,Queensland;d.15 Aug 1961- Queensland,Australia) sp: Carl "Charles" Friedrich DIECKMANN (b.15 Apr 1877-Engelsburg,Queensland;m.29 Jul 1903 d.18 Aug 1950-) 4. Walter Leslie Harold DIECKMANN (b.2 Feb 1905-Queensland,Australia;d.29 Mar 1905- Queensland,Australia) 4. Irskine DIECKMANN 4. Eckhardt Hubert DIECKMANN (b.15 Mar 1908-Queensland,Australia;d.13 Sep 2001- Queensland,Australia) sp: Viola Agnes BUHSE (b.19 Aug 1915-Queensland,Australia;d.22 Dec 1998- Queensland,Australia) 5. Neville DIECKMANN sp: Valerie Joyce LOBEGEIGER (b.13 Jul 1939-Queensland,Australia;m.25 Feb 1986) 4. Percy Ceril DIECKMANN (b.19 Nov 1910-Queensland,Australia;d.3 Nov 1982- Ipswich,Queensland,Australia) sp: Gladys Wilhelmine BERLIN (b.1 Jul 1910-Queensland,Australia) 4. Leslie "Victor" DIECKMANN sp: Grace STALLMAN 4. Mervyn DIECKMANN sp: Hazel KRUGER 3. Wilhelm Herman FRITZ (b.15 Dec 1884) sp: Clara SONNENBERG 3. Emma Helena FRITZ (b.28 Jul 1887-Teviotville,Queensland;d.25 May 1950- Fassifern,Queensland,Australia) sp: Emil Adolf DOMJAHN (b.29 Sep 1886-FS,Queensland;m.8 Jul 1908;d.23 Oct 1930- Kalbar,Queensland,Australia) sp: Wilhelm Friedrich LITZOW (b.18 Mar 1888-Queensland) 3. George Carl FRITZ (b.9 Jun 1890) sp: Louisa WENZEL 3. Heinrich FRITZ sp: Sophie GERCHOW 3. Arthur Wilhelm FRITZ sp: Matilda BEUTEL (b.1896-Queensland) 3. Sophie FRITZ sp: Fred WENZEL 3. Reinhold Carl FRITZ (b.8 Aug 1902-Teviotville,Queensland,Australia;d.30 Apr 1971- 3. Brisbane,Queensland,Australia) sp: Fanny Rose BAILEY (b.24 Sep 1910-Brisbane,Queensland,Australia;m.27 Oct 1943) 2. Hermann WITTENHAGEN (b.9 Sep 1864-Germany;d.30 Aug 1912- Boonah,Queensland,Australia) sp: Emilie Maria Ulrike MARQUARDT (b.17 Mar 1865-Germany;m.25 Oct 1888;d.13 Aug 1956- Boonah,Q,Australia) 3. Augusta Mary Louisa ("Lily Marie") WITTENHAGEN (b.26 Oct 1889-Qld,Australia; d.11 Sep 1982 Boonah Shire, Queensland sp: Heinrich Wilhelm DRAHEIM (b.19 Nov 1887-Qld,Australia;m.18 Jan 1911 d.21 Apr 1951 3. Bertha Emile Helene WITTENHAGEN (b.27 Nov 1891; d.3 Jul 1970 Boonah, Qld, Australia) 3. Friedrich Wilhelm Hermann WITTENHAGEN (b.11 Dec 1893-Qld,Australia;d.22 May 1977 Boonah, Queensland, Australia 3. Heinrich Albert August WITTENHAGEN (b.8 Apr 1898-Qld,Australia;d.10 Oct 1898- Boonah,Qld,Australia) 3. Ernest Edward Carl WITTENHAGEN (b.14 Mar 1901;d.14 May 1980-79yrs Old Boonah Shire, Qld Anna, if you or anyone else can add any dates or information to what I have here, it would be appreciated. Regards Chris ________________________________ From: Anna Bell <anna670@gmail.com> To: aus-qld-se-germans@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 6 March, 2011 1:23:57 PM Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Funeral Notice The Chronicle and Qld Times- Maud Phyllis MULLER (nee ITZSTEIN)- Connection with Kapernick Hello Chris I have a Theodore Itzstein 1910 / 2000 s/o Lother Itztein and Henrietta Auguste Kapernick . He married Margaret Alma Kohler 1905/1986. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5946 (20110311) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Hi Kevin Thanks for the corrections. I will note them- Wilhelm and Williams get a bit academic. I do appreciate the correction as I do like listing the official birth name, but most of them did anglicise their names. My grandfather's name on his birth certificate was Wilhelm too but it was never used! Always William- it actually caused a couple of problems when he died, as the Public Trustee would not accept that Wilhelm and William were the same person. My gran had to fill in extra forms, and get three stat declarations from people like solicitors, doctors and ministers that new him well. I am not related to the WITTENHAGEN et al, my habit is to go back on the wrong side of my families- the in- law side and make the connections. I would, however, appreciate anything you have on the KERLIN and NIETHE family, as I am in contact with others- like Ted Itzstein- interested in Wittenhagen connections. Also there are various connections, I believe, with Beutel and Kapernick descendants. Please send the files to me off list to chris_schmidt@y7mail.com I will then get back to you about any common connections and ad anything I may be able to. However, just be aware it might be a while before I get back to you as I am flat out with a Kapernick reunion that is coming up on 26 Mar 2011 in Gatton. Regards Chris ________________________________ From: Kevin A Niethe <kjniethe@bigpond.com> To: aus-qld-se-germans@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 15 March, 2011 3:51:01 PM Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] FW: Attn: Anna Bell: WITTENHAGEN-VORPAGEL- KOHLER-Connection withMuller- Itzstein Funeral Hi Chris, I am Kevin Niethe a descendant on your list ,but I have to offer some corrections, namely Carl was my grandfather & his son was Wilhelm Otto