Hi Jill, Remember me... I think you may have a couple of things mixed up here I think. Probably the easiest way for you to check is if I send you a GEDCOM of my research. It is quite extensive, so sorry about the file size. This sounds like my MULLER line and OUR BERLIN side. In summary - Christian Friedrich MULLER (b20.10.1833 Bagemuhl d. 10.11.1915 Engelsberg) married Dorothea Louise MOHNS (b. 3.7.1836 Bagemuhl d. 4.9.1905) Children were - Frederike Wilhelmine Ernestine (my GGGmother) Maria Magdelene Carl Friedrich Wilhelm Christian Friedrich Wilhelm Charlotte Friedrike Wilhelmine Anna Marie August Ferdinand Friedrich Wilhelm August Friedrich Wilhelm The Anna Maria MULLER who you have below is actually from another MULLER line. Her parents are August Johann Christian MULLER & Auguste Louise Albertine PETER from Schmolln Prussia. Annie MULLER married Friedrich Wilhelm Carl BERLIN - son of Christian Friedrich. Sarah Elizabeth MULLER is another line again. I do not have any information on her family though. A lot of this is 3rd hand so still requires verification, but it came from several researchers and matched up. There are still lots of gaps and grey areas though. Regards, Kerry Muller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill TUMES" <tumesrj@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 7:57 PM Subject: Müller Does anyone have connections with the following descendants of Christian Müller c 1827 and his wife Friedericke Louise Mellentin c 1829 - 4.11.1910? They came with 5 children from Bagemühl, Prenslau, Preussen. 1. Friedrich Müller b 1851 2. Friedericke Müller b 1852 married William Zighien ( Zechen, Zighein, Zeihin, Zichien, Zichein, Zechin) Chn:1. Auguste b 1876 d 1877; 2. John Friedrich b 1878 m Ellie Wilhelmine Albertine Breitkreutz; 3. Sarah b 1880 m Heinrich Wilhelm Berlin; 4. Wilhelm b 1882 ?m Louisa Neumann; 5. George b 1887. 3. August Müller b 1854 d 30.6.1865 4. Wilhelmine ( Minnie) Müller b 1856 m Carl Zahl Chn Agnes, Annie, Elizabeth, John Priscilla, Rachel, Sarah. 5. Sarah Elizabeth Müller b 1862 m Christian Berlin b 1854 6. Anna Maria Louisa Müller b 6.9.1869 d 24.9.1939 m Frederick Wilhelm Berlin b 23.3.1862 d 21.4.1940. Jill TUMES. ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Hi Kerry, I probably gave you the information on Annie Müller who married Friedrich Wilhelm Carl BERLIN, saying she was the daughter of August Johann Christian MULLER & Auguste Louise Albertine PETER. That information I had given to others on the list as well. However I have since obtained various death and marriage certificates which confirm that my Annie Müller is indeed the daughter of Christian Müller and Friedericke Louise Mellentin and sister of the others I listed in my email. That includes the Sarah Elizabeth Müller ( known as Elizabeth) who married Frederick Berlin's brother, Christian Berlin. I have the shipping list for this family as well as the births and marriages and some deaths which named the parents. I was alerted to my error when I found people who were descended from members of the other family who knew who "that Annie" married, and when and where she died. I haven't had time to check your gedcom file yet. Regards , Jill.