Forwarded with permission of the original submitter: > > > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:04:15 +1100 > > > From: yvon@alphalink.com.au > > > To: aus-german@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [AUS-German] RÜHL Family f rom Hessen to Australia > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > I have a letter from the Darmstadt Staatarchiv who are looking for John > > and Ann Fraser who > > > visited them in September 2010. > > > The Archiv wishes to contact them as they have found their family but > > John and Ann did not leave > > > their address. > > > If any one knows John and Ann please advise them to contact me ... > > > > > > Regards > > > Yvonne Izatt > > >

Thanks Lisa Very good hint - some can also be searched on line before going to the Archives - not all but worth the time to check at home and go armed with the information you can readily obtain for the greatest effect on the day. Search this site http://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/Search/BasicSearch.aspx View results - Open the link that looks like your connection and down the list is "Microfilm" which gives you a great lead to search first and if there is no Microfilm, you have to request the file - if available. Also helps if you are requesting the Archives to do it for you. Thanks We were very 'unknowing' about mental illness in the past. Lorrae J Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Burton [mailto:burtonlisa61@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, 18 February 2011 4:05 PM To: aus-german@rootsweb.com; aus-qld-se-germans@rootsweb.com Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Can't find a ship of arrival? Suggestion. For anyone who has had difficulty establishing a ship of arrival for a ancestor, can I suggest that you consider the following resource at Queensland State Archives? "Registers of Prisoners admitted HM Brisbane Goal 03 Jan 1850 - 03 Feb 1864" (QSA Ref. PRI 1/25 Film No. Z3993) Whilst doing research for my most recent article re. German immigrant ships from Bremen to Moreton Bay, I found this resource to be very helpful as, in most cases, it lists the prisoner's ship and year of arrival. (Of course, there is always the possibility that the information recorded at the time isn't accurate, but it could be a starting point for further research. Please note that there are also some variations in spelling of known ship names eg. "William Kersner" for "Wilhelm Kirchner", "Paffland" for "Parland", "Malps" for "Marbs" and "Caesa Godfrey" for "Caesar Godeffroy", for instance.) Prisoners admitted did not only reside in Brisbane - many were escorted from areas such as the Darling Downs, Rockhampton, Wide Bay etc. Prisoners also may have arrived/resided in another state/colony originally - not necessarily direct to a 'Queensland' port. Don't be put off by the thought that your ancestor may have been convicted of a criminal offence. In addition to serious crimes, the offences in these registers also include: absenting oneself from service, drunkenness and what we would consider petty theft. (Things could be very difficult financially for our forebears - many later 'pillars of the community' did it very tough in their first years here - you may be surprised). Sadly, in this era, you could also be jailed for being 'a lunatic' i.e. experiencing mental health issues. Good luck! Rgs Lisa Gladstone, Q. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5888 (20110219) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

For anyone who has had difficulty establishing a ship of arrival for a ancestor, can I suggest that you consider the following resource at Queensland State Archives? "Registers of Prisoners admitted HM Brisbane Goal 03 Jan 1850 – 03 Feb 1864" (QSA Ref. PRI 1/25 Film No. Z3993) Whilst doing research for my most recent article re. German immigrant ships from Bremen to Moreton Bay, I found this resource to be very helpful as, in most cases, it lists the prisoner's ship and year of arrival. (Of course, there is always the possibility that the information recorded at the time isn't accurate, but it could be a starting point for further research. Please note that there are also some variations in spelling of known ship names eg. "William Kersner" for "Wilhelm Kirchner", "Paffland" for "Parland", "Malps" for "Marbs" and "Caesa Godfrey" for "Caesar Godeffroy", for instance.) Prisoners admitted did not only reside in Brisbane - many were escorted from areas such as the Darling Downs, Rockhampton, Wide Bay etc. Prisoners also may have arrived/resided in another state/colony originally - not necessarily direct to a 'Queensland' port. Don't be put off by the thought that your ancestor may have been convicted of a criminal offence. In addition to serious crimes, the offences in these registers also include: absenting oneself from service, drunkenness and what we would consider petty theft. (Things could be very difficult financially for our forebears - many later 'pillars of the community' did it very tough in their first years here - you may be surprised). Sadly, in this era, you could also be jailed for being 'a lunatic' i.e. experiencing mental health issues. Good luck! Rgs Lisa Gladstone, Q.

The Herschel made 7 voyages to Australasia - 5 to Australia and 2 to NZ. This particular voyage was her 3rd. This ship was chartered by the Government to bring immigrants to Queensland. If you go to Trove and access the Brisbane Courier for Wed. 15th July 1874; Friday July 17, 1874 and Thursday 23rd July, 1874 you will find articles about the voyage. Below is your family who arrived on this voyage. Emigrants from Hamburg to Australasia 1850-1879 No: 81 Surname: LANGE Given Names: Gottfried Town: Pachutken State: West Preussen Standing: Landmann Age: 56 Sex: m Destination: Brisbane Ship: Herschel Year: 1874 ID: 32067 No: 82 Surname: LANGE Given Names: Anna Town: Pachutken State: West Preussen Standing: Frau Age: 47 Sex: f Destination: Brisbane Ship: Herschel Year: 1874 ID: 32068 No: 84 Surname: LANGE Given Names: Gottfried Town: Pachutken State: West Preussen Standing: Sohn Age: 25 Sex: m Destination: Brisbane Ship: Herschel Year: 1874 ID: 32070 No: 85 Surname: LANGE Given Names: August Town: Pachutken State: West Preussen Standing: Sohn Age: 16 Sex: m Destination: Brisbane Ship: Herschel Year: 1874 ID: 32071 No: 83 Surname: LANGE Given Names: Maria Town: Pachutken State: West Preussen Standing: Tochter Age: 9 Sex: f Destination: Brisbane Ship: Herschel Year: 1874 ID: 32069 Cheers Janet

Lorraine,. The Maryborough Family Heritage Institute has a book on the Voyages of the Hershal. You can contact them at heritageresearch@bigpond.com.au for the details. Kay Gassan -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-se-germans-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-se-germans-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of L Stitt Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2011 10:31 AM To: AUS-GERMAN@rootsweb.com Cc: aus-qld-nundah-dist@rootsweb.com; genanz@rootsweb.com; aus-qld-se-germans@rootsweb.com Subject: [SEQ-Germans] "Herschel" sailed from Hamburg 1 April 1874 " Hello list members, "Gottfried Lange came to Australia per the "Herschel" sailed from Hamburg 1 April 1874 " I thought maybe some people who had researched that particular voyage might be able to help me with details of the voyage. Perhaps a passenger list - is that too much to ask?? Perhaps they might be able to tell me why Germans were making that voyage? Thanks in advance Lorraine Archives - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-SE-GERMANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello list members, "Gottfried Lange came to Australia per the "Herschel" sailed from Hamburg 1 April 1874 " I thought maybe some people who had researched that particular voyage might be able to help me with details of the voyage. Perhaps a passenger list - is that too much to ask?? Perhaps they might be able to tell me why Germans were making that voyage? Thanks in advance Lorraine

If you are getting good value out of Trove, please tell them (there's a Please Give Us Your Feedback link at the bottom of the page). Trove cost a lot of money to put together so "good news" stories about how great it's been for you will help to justify more money for more newspapers etc. Kerry

Hi List, I'm sure none of us ever feel bored not when there are such great online resources to be researched. Trove can take up hours and hours of time but with some many rewards. http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=celebrations+at+tarampa My ancestors attended Tarampa State School and in 2005 they held their 125 anniversary with a new book produced. On page 23 it said :- The 50th Jubilee was held and celebrated, but we have no records remaining apart from the Photos, below. We can be assured that this day was a great success. using Trove - The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864-1933) Wednesday 21 May 1930 p 23 Article SCHOOL JUBILEE. CELEBRATIONS AT TARAMPA. PIONEER SCHOLARS FETED. TARAMPA, May 20. The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864-1933) Wednesday 21 May 1930 p 23 Article The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864-1933), Wednesday 21 May 1930, page 23 SCHOOL JUBILEE. CELEBRATIONS AT TARAMPA. PIONEER SCHOLARS FETED. 20. Nearly one-third of the boys and girls who had attended the Tarampa State School on its opening day, 50 years ago, reassembled on Saturday at the golden jubilee celebrations, and answered the roll call. Great changes were noticed in the old school since the present building was erected in 1886. In those days what is at present a thriving settlement "was only scrub.- When the school was first opened it was situated on Grlenke's paddock, and the scholars had their first lessons in an old slab building, Mr. J. H. Stewart being the first teacher. JUBILEE SCHOLARS PRESENT. Those who answered the roll call were :-Anna Tessman (Mrs. A. Beutel, Brigalow), Arthur Twidale (Coominya), Otto Dargusch (Tarampa), William Dargusch (Bright View), Amelia Schroder (Mrs. F. Kuhn, Mt. Tarampa), Carolina Schroder (Mrs. W. Jackwitz, Mt. Tarampa), Carpas Schiesser (Frenchton), Emma Pakleppa (Mrs. Jacob Utz, Mt. Tarampa), Eda Genege (Mrs. Emil Neumann), Bertha Jackwitz (Mrs. F. Reinhardt, Laidley), Albert Jackwitz (Forest Hill), William Schroder, Edward and Richard Doran (past teachers). The head teachers during the 50 years were:-Mr. J. H. Stewart (April 1, 1880, to September 13, 1880), Miss Isabella Wheeler (November 2, 1880, to January 26, 1881), Messrs. Alexander Beaton (January 27, 1881, to January 22, 1882), James Wherry (January 23, 1882, to May 3, 1883), H. Mondlentz (May 5, 1883, to March 31, 1888), J. J. Conn (April 1, 1888, to April 28, 1893), Edward Doran (April 29, 1893, to December 31, 1906), Richard Doran January 1, 1907, to August 31, 1918), Alfred Farnsworth (September 16, 1918, to January 31, 1928). The present teacher (Mr. G. O. Anderson) took charge on January 30, 1928. The early part of the morning was spent by the jubilee scholars present in renewing old friendships. At noon the teacher (Mr. G. O. Anderson) called the first roll, and those of the original 44 who were present fell into line. When the roll call had been completed the chairman of the school committee (Mr. P. W. Beutel) welcomed the pioneer scholars, and expressed the pleasure of the committee at the very large attendance. He complimented the jubilee pupils on again visiting their old school. STUDENTS' ADDRESS OF WELCOME. Miss Lily Hayes read an address of welcome to the original scholars from the present-day pupils of the school. Mr. E. B. Maher, M.L.A., declared the celebrations officially open, and added his greeting to the old scholars. He stated the fact that they had lived for so long in the district was a tribute to the climate and to the district where they were born and bred. The State owed those old students, in common with the early pioneers, a debt that they would never be able to repay. Mr. Maher said that even in the midst of the celebrations and enjoyment they must not forget those original scholars who had been called to the Great Beyond, after having played their part in the development of a great district, and it was only fitting that they stand to attention and salute their memory. Mr. C. H. Jamieson, M.L.A., in supporting the remarks of Mr. Maher, traced the early settlement in the district, from the time when the land was dense bush and scrub. He stated that the pioneers had played a wonderful part in making their district what it was to-day. They had each contributed a share in the work of developing its wonderful resources, and in building up a sound and wealthy dairying industry. OFFICIAL LUNCHEON. The jubilee scholars were then entertained at a luncheon by the committee, when the following toasts were honoured:-"The King," "The Pioneer Pupils" (proposed by Mr. G. O. Anderson, and responded to bv Mr. Arthur Twidale, Coominya); "The Teachers, Past and Present" (proposed by Mr. E. B. Maher, and responded to by Messrs. edward and Richard Doran, and G. O. Anderson), "Parliament" (proposed by Councillor W. Lewis, and respond ."( to by Messrs. Maher and Jamieson, Hs.L.A.), "The Esk Shire Council'1 (proposed by Mr. A. J. Beeston, and responded to by Councillor W. Lewis, chairman), "The Visitors" (proposed by G. O. Anderson, and responded to bv Edward and Richard Doran), and "The Ladles and the Committee" (pro- posed by Mr. Maher, and responded to by Mr. Beutel). A birthday cake, made by Misses Lily and Ellen Schimke (Coolana), old scholars, was cut by the oldest jubilee scholar present, Mrs. A. Beutel, of Brigalow. During the day a programme of sports and basket ball . was carried out, and resulted:- SPORTS RESULTS. SIXTH GRADE 7Ssds Handicap boys -Harold Schimke Girls Mabel Kllbbe FHTH GRADE 75\ds Handicap boys Len Beutel Girls Grace Newndorf THIRD GRADE 75yds Handicap boys Norman Muller Girls Doris Lukrltz SECOND GRADE Handicap boys Douslas Zabel Girls Ivy Bichel FIRST ORADE, Hindlcap, boys. Reg Litzow. INFANTS' CLASSES Girls' Preparatory Linda Glennj Boj? Colin Beutel LOWER CLASS girls Lorna Litzow JUBIIEE CHAMPIONSHIP -Fifth and Sixth Grade 50 yds boys Tim Glennj Giris Mabel Kilbbe SECOND AND THIRD GRADE 50yds boys Mathew Jendrachowfs Girls Ivy Bichel EGG AND SPOON RACE Miy Lehman SACK RACE Norman Muller THREE-LEGGED RACE Mav Lehmann OBSTACLE RACE 5 Grade Cyril Beutel Third Grade Mathew Jendrachowfski 1. Norman Muller 2 Mervyn Litzow 3 JUBILEE HANDICAP Adults, 150yd A Pommeranke PUTTING THE WEIGHT Les Weier and J Fitzpitrlck divided HOP STEP AND JUMP A Litzow JUBILEE BALL. The celebrations were concluded with a jubilee ball at night, music being supplied by the Red Star Jazz Band The ball proved to be the most successful social event in the history of Tarampa The cake waltz was won by Miss Elsie Schultz and D Marschke. Regards, Charmaine.

Hello List members What advise can you give us about compiling our family history into one book. Four of us are interested. Now do we restrict the family only to LANGE or include in law partners. ie in my case there are LANGE Dunnes, Biertons, Smiths how far do we go. Is this something we should sort out before we start collecting family names & photos?? Big job - could be touchy with four of us involved, that is why I would like to have a frame to start with agreed upon. Thank s Lorraine

The "One Hundred Years of the Lutheran Church in Queensland" does not have any of these names. However there is an August FAHR, who was a missionary colonist sent from Gossner Mission Society of Berlin. Is it possible that your FEHR, could be FAHR? Wayne & Di Hoppe On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:46 AM, L Stitt <lorrainestitt@westnet.com.au>wrote: > > I was hoping someone would be kind enough to do a look up in the book > "One > > Hundred Years of the Lutheran Church in Queensland" > > I am researching LANGE , Lubke, Fehr. > >

> I was hoping someone would be kind enough to do a look up in the book "One > Hundred Years of the Lutheran Church in Queensland" I am researching LANGE , Lubke, Fehr. Please could anyone help me out with PO directories, I would like to know where Gottfried & Ann LANGE lived in Brisbane in 1875. Also Michael LANGE, & August LANGE from same year. If this is a trouble would I be better advised to ask a librarian at John Oxley for free look up?? Four researchers from the Lange family are looking into compiling a family book ----where do we start? Do each of us sort out our branch first? Any help with these questions would be more than welcome, sorry for asking so many questions Lorraine

Thanks Wayne and Di. It is fantastic! Kind regards Donna From: aus-qld-se-germans-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-se-germans-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dianne Tikira Sent: Sunday, 6 February 2011 8:52 AM To: aus-qld-se-germans@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] One Hundred Years of the Lutheran Church in Queensland Hi Donna We have replied to you off list Regards Di & Wayne On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Donna Spencer <donnas@itxperts.com.au>wrote: > Hello List > > > > I was hoping someone would be kind enough to do a look up in the book "One > Hundred Years of the Lutheran Church in Queensland" for F. Zumbansen, who > was my Great Grandfather and advise what is written please? The family > settled in the Mundowran area (near Mundubbera). > > > > Kind regards > > Donna Spencer > > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to > South East Queensland, Australia. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-SE-GERMANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Archives - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-SE-GERMANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3422 - Release Date: 02/04/11

If anyone is interested in this book, it is available in 18 libraries, so it may be in one near you http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/19030285 I would also point out that this book is apparently out of copyright. This means there is nothing to stop anyone from scanning and uploading the pages to the WWW. Kerry

Hi Donna We have replied to you off list Regards Di & Wayne On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Donna Spencer <donnas@itxperts.com.au>wrote: > Hello List > > > > I was hoping someone would be kind enough to do a look up in the book "One > Hundred Years of the Lutheran Church in Queensland" for F. Zumbansen, who > was my Great Grandfather and advise what is written please? The family > settled in the Mundowran area (near Mundubbera). > > > > Kind regards > > Donna Spencer > > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to > South East Queensland, Australia. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-SE-GERMANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I don't know if you already have this, but this is the location you are looking for, http://www.ga.gov.au/bin/gazd01?rec=160953 >From that you may be able to identify where to find records, such as Family History Society. http://www.satcom.net.au/mdfhs/ Gay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Spencer" <donnas@itxperts.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 2:26 PM Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Fritz Zumbansen > Hello List > > > > I've just an archived post by Albert Grulke from 2000 re the Early German > Settlements. > > > > Albert, the F. Zumbasen is actually my Great Grandfather Fritz Zumbansen > and > they settled in the Mundowran area. > > Could I please ask where I could the information you mentioned? Would you > have any other information at all? > > > > Thank you > > Donna Spencer > > > > > > Mundowran (where is it?) > > This seems to be the name of a farming district very near Mundubberra and > > may in fact be where the German migrants actually settled. > > > >

Hello List I've just an archived post by Albert Grulke from 2000 re the Early German Settlements. Albert, the F. Zumbasen is actually my Great Grandfather Fritz Zumbansen and they settled in the Mundowran area. Could I please ask where I could the information you mentioned? Would you have any other information at all? Thank you Donna Spencer Mundowran (where is it?) This seems to be the name of a farming district very near Mundubberra and may in fact be where the German migrants actually settled. Mundubbera In 1907-10 Pastor Niemeyer of the Apostolic Church at Plainlands organized the migration of a number of German to come to Queensland. For some reason instead of settling at Plainlands they settled at Munduberra. It seems that although he was responsible for their migration he did not provide for them pastoral support and in 1912 the Lutheran pastor from Maryborough went to the area and from there formed a Lutheran congregation. F Zumbasen is the only name mentioned in this area.

Hello List I was hoping someone would be kind enough to do a look up in the book "One Hundred Years of the Lutheran Church in Queensland" for F. Zumbansen, who was my Great Grandfather and advise what is written please? The family settled in the Mundowran area (near Mundubbera). Kind regards Donna Spencer

Hello to Albert and Lorrae, I am sorry this is a little late, can I say thank you Albert and Lorrae, for your help and suggestions. Regards Anne

Hi Phil. The Pocket book has arrived from the printers if you are still interested. Cost $30 posted. Regards Kay Gassan -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-se-germans-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-se-germans-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PD & LE Strong Sent: Monday, 26 July 2010 7:23 PM To: aus-qld-se-germans@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Another book Dear Kaye, Yes please, I am interested. I have a few WEDEMEYERs around Maryborough. Also, straying from the German theme, I have some McLEANs. Please let me know when your book comes out. Many thanks, Phil ________________________ At 2:07 PM +1000 24/7/10, Kay Gassan wrote: >Lorrae, >I am re-editing a book I wrote 13 years ago about part of Maryborough, where >a lot of people of German descent live or lived and thought while I was >going through it that I could mention some names if anyone is interested. >The name of the book is The Pocket. Its History, Folklore and People and >there is a copy in the State Library and National Library. There is >mentioned a lot of names of ships etc and places where these Germans >originated, so when I get the book printed off ready to send to the >printers, I will settle down to writing out some of the names if you think >it a good idea. If anyone is interedted, my website is >www.twowiseowls.colm.au > >Regards >Kay Gassan -- **Philip Strong***Email:plstrong@pnc.com.au***Blue Mountains, Australia** Interest: WEDEMEYER / WEDEMEIER of Moringen-Fredelsloh, Goslar, Hannover Germany. Emigrant to Gayndah, Mt Perry, Drummers Creek, Yarrol, Walla, Bundaberg Queensland, Australia. http://www.strong-family.org/wedemeyer/ Archives - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-SE-GERMANS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi The CCC - many of the people involved in the Civil Construction Core are available through the National Archives and on the WW2 site http://naa12.naa.gov.au/Login.htm http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/name.asp Now, I have not found them all at either site, but many are listed there. In my case, the records are held at the National Archives in Brisbane as the person was from Esk. Hope this helps you locate them Lorrae J Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich -----Original Message----- From: albert grulke [mailto:agrulke7@bigpond.com] Sent: Monday, 24 January 2011 7:33 AM To: aus-qld-se-germans@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] employment records Sometime in the late 1990s some politician in his wisdom or lack of wisdom decided that there should be a medal struck for those people involved in civil construction, conscripted to civilian work and others working in essential services during World war 2. They struck the medal and began issuing it. First of all I imagine that they must have some register somewhere to know who is eligible for this medal. I cannot see how it can be issued just on a person's say so. Second is that I reckon drivers of essential and senior persons would be considered as eligible for the medal. Therefore I reckon there is some register somewhere but no idea where. Wonder would Australian war Museum have it or know where to go. Albert Grulke __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5811 (20110123) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com