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    1. Re: Schlesia
    2. Eric Kopittke
    3. Albert Grulke" <grulke@bigpond.com> wrote > > I am looking to learn if SCHLESIA and SELISIA are the same place. > The persons concerned named Hoffmann were born in GRAEDITZ, SCHLESIA. > The Hoffmann family on my tree came from SILESIA. It appears the place might > be REICHNAU. > I am trying to establish if there may be a connection. > Albert Grulke in sunny Melbourne Australia > Dear List members I would guess that Schlesia and Selisia are misspellings of Silesia, or the German form Schlesien. Greetings Eric Kopittke

    11/17/2001 11:59:34
    1. RE: Unamed child
    2. Tom & Lorrae Johnson
    3. Hi everybody Just a thought!!! Who registered the birth? How soon afterwards was the birth registered? Who registered the death? How soon afterwards was the death registered? I thought the death was usually registered immediately whilst there is a time period for the birth to be registered. Is it not possible that the death was registered before the birth and at the time of death, a name had not been decided. By the time they registered the birth, a name may have been decided. Alternatively, perhaps the birth was registered by someone not in the family who was going to town. Take care Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich -----Original Message----- From: Beverly [mailto:pussims@cableone.net] Sent: Friday, 16 November 2001 8:24 AM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fw: Unamed child > Mark, I have about 3 or 4 un named babies that I was able to obtain the > death certificate for. None of them were stillborn, all lived at least one > hour or a few days, but the mothers did not name them for the certificates. > I heard that the mothers did not get too attached to the baby growing in the > womb. The main reason was that the mortality rate was so high that it was > expected that none of them would live much past birth. > > On the other hand, many of the babies did live. > > Want to know how I KNOW that? > > well, on the Digest list we have 118 subscribers and on the List mode we > have 236 subscribers. All researching Germans in South East Queensland but > not all of them post their research interests on a regular basis. > > So go ahead and apply for the certificates and find out what happened to the > little one. Keep in mind that the clerk in the office where you applied is > not connected to your family and she has no physical or emotional bond to > the un named baby! > > cheers, Beverly. > Life on Earth is Expensive, but at least > you get a free trip around the sun....... > So wear a hat and enjoy the ride! > > ______________________________

    11/17/2001 11:15:24
    1. Worth a read
    2. The Stewart Family
    3. I am reading a novel which might be of interest to members of this list. It is about a group of German immigrants who come to Bundaberg written by Patricia Shaw- Title "The Dream Seekers" it is a fiction novel but I have enjoyed it very much. Christine Stewart Townsville I have no personal interest or any connection to this author. Researching MODROW, WOGANDT & GRIINKE in Bundaberg and Toowoomba.

    11/17/2001 10:44:16
    1. Re: Muller and Müller
    2. Mr Kerry Muller
    3. Hi Bev, This is a very grey area, and apparantly an area that was kept very quiet within the family, and from what I know, a lot of the family do not know about it. Herman MULLER was my GGfather. His mother was Friederike Ernestine Wilhelmine MULLER, and his father is unknown. A fellow researcher on the MULLER name, and a distant relative of mine advised... "I could not find the birth of Harry Muller for ages, we were told none existed as he was supposed to have been born on the ship coming here. Then one day, I was talking to my husband mother and she let drop that really her father's mother's name was MOHNS. I looked up the B.D. &M., and there it was!!! There is another story also, which I think can be discounted - Fredericke was supposed to come to Australia with her parents (Mother anyhow) but was in love with a high-ranking army officer, so became pregnant so she could stay in Germany. However, he was born on 13 June 1884 and the ship "Waroonga" sailed from Hamburg on 26 June 1883 - work it out for yourself..." The "Waroonga" sailed from Hamburg on 26 June 1883 and then went to Portsmouth from where it sailed on 22 November, 1883 and arrived in Cooktown 8 January, 1884. Herman would have been conceived about September 1883, so this would have been either on board ship or during the stopover at Portsmouth. In addition to the above she advised... Friederike is evidently the illegitimate daughter of Dorothea Louise Mohns who married Christian Friedrich Wilhelm Muller in Germany. Not sure whether used the name of Muller or Mohns. Jean Harm of Gympie advised she received some information from Germany which was sent to a Karen Muller who she lost track of. The original letter was in German, and a friend of hers transcribed it for her. "...Friederike Ernestine Wilhelmine Mohns born 21.4.1856 out of wedlock. Mother Luise Mohns, daughter of day labourer Christian Mohns. There is no record about the father..." This one is a tricky one I am still trying to find information on. None of my direct family know anything about it. If you find out any useful information, I would be very greatful. Kerry Muller Melboune ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Kerlin" <kerlindavidbev@ozemail.com.au> To: "SEQ GERMANS" <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com>; "Kerry Muller" <kmm@ihug.com.au> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:00 PM Subject: Muller and Müller > Hello again Kerry and others interested in these folk, > > Do you happen to know if there is a possible connection between Christian FW > MÜLLER, his spouse Dorothea Luise MOHNS, her father Christian MOHNS and your > G/Grandfather Herman MÜLLER? The latter was aka Harry MOHNS wasn't he? > They were all born in Bagemuhl too. > > If Frederike, Christian FW's daughter, was his mother, have you been able to > sort out who his father may have been? Have you checked out the MOHNS > family? > > Who is able to help me with another one please? Today, I have received a > reference to a gentleman called MILLER. This fellow is most definitely one > of the MÜLLERs under current scrutiny of this List, but if I referred to his > Christian name a few of us might suffer from severe stroke!! > > Could it be another case of a variant, eg KERLIN, KIRLIN, CARLIN, CURLIN > ++++? > > I'm leaving the "thread" here for those of you who may be interested or new. > > Cheers > Bev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mr Kerry Muller" <kmm@ihug.com.au> > To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:15 PM > Subject: Fw: Muller and Müller > > > > Hi All, > > > > As a follow up to Bev's email, I thought I would advise that the Herman > > MÜLLER (AKA Harry Miller) & Annie Wilhelmine STIBBE are actually my > > GGrandparents. > > > > Kind Regards > > > > Kerry MÜLLER > > Melbourne > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bev Kerlin" <kerlindavidbev@ozemail.com.au> > > To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 4:19 PM > > Subject: Muller and Müller > > > > > > Hi All > > > > I've done that checking routine and find that Kerry MÜLLER's file and mine > > are pretty close - well he helped me heaps, so that stands to reason. > > > > Cathy and Peter Reinke: > > I can help with Gustav Adolf MÜLLER and Maria Wilhelmine REINKE but I had > > the marriage date as 10 April where you have 19 April. I didn't have > their > > children, so thank you for that. > > > > Herman MÜLLER and Annie Wilhelmine STIBBE are here too, plus 2 more wives. > > > > Both families are connected. > > > > So then, where is my Samuel MULLER? Not one among them! He was born > > 03.03.1907 at Roadvale, died 18.07.1963 at Brisbane and married Linda > > Dorothy HANSON on 12.06.1929. > > > > Typing Ü - use numeric keypad and hold down Alt key and 154 = Ü > > Typing ü - use numeric keypad and hold down Alt key and 129 = ü > > (just a bit of trivia - but PAF sorts the two names separately and it's a > > chore) > > > > Best wishes > > Bev > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > >

    11/17/2001 08:59:43
    1. Re: Samuel MULLER
    2. Bev Kerlin
    3. Hi again Daph and Listers Firstly, I must tell you I may be A.W.O.L. for a few days, so this could be my last message for a short time only. Daph, you really are a gem - I don't have any of Samuel's family. The GEITZ/WEGENER/NASS connection has me confused though. I have a few WEGENERs, but no parents. Linda Dorothy HANSON details are as I have them. James Peter's father was also James Peter HANSON born 1841 in Eskdale, Finland, died 14.06.1929 Milbong, Qld Aust married 29.12.1874 Mary MEIKLE b 24.03.1850 Waterside, Scotland died 10.05.1927 Milbong, Qld Aust. You will find most of our families at http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com but of course the "living" folk do not show any dates. I have two Anna Elizabeth ALTHAUS girls: 1. born 01.10.1890 - died 15.04.1909 Her parents were Nichlaus b June 1861 and Agnes or Agnesa Teis b 23.09.1866 2. born 22.05.1900 Toowoomba died 28.02.1954 Toowoomba buried 02.03.1954 Drayton Cemetry, Toowoomba. Her parents were Johann b abt 1866 and Elizabeth FREYLING b 14.03.1866. She married 16.12.1950, Philip Clarence Reeves b 08.06.1908 Warwick I have Karoline Elizabeth SCHOLL m 24.08.1893 Jacob ALTHAUS. The death record is the same. Once again folks, this is not my personal research - only 'gatherings' from others. I am expecting a snail-mail regarding Samuel MÜLLER next week or so and will share what is being given to me. Cheers Bev K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daph Heiner" <dheiner@tpgi.com.au> To: "Bev Kerlin" <kerlindavidbev@ozemail.com.au>; <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:43 AM Subject: Samuel MULLER > Hi Bev (Kerlin) and list > > Bev - The Q'ld BDMs have the parents of your Samuel MULLER b 3 Mar 1907 > as Otto Ferdinand b 8 Sep 1879 and Elizabeth Anna WEBER, and I have Otto > Ferdinand's parents as August MULLER and Wilhelmine BOLL. > > I've just started on your Althaus gedcom - > > I have Catherine Annie NASS (ALTHAUS) b 20 Oct 1888 death date as 13 Dec > 1969 - > > Katharina Sophie NASS, daur of Ernest GEITZ and Albertine Henrietta > WEGENER died 26/5/1948 Q'ld death reg no. 1948/2207. > > I also seem to have a mix-up with Linda Dorothy HANSON married Samuel > MULLER. A Linda Dorothy HANSON was born 19/3/1910, parents James Peter > and Martha BAUMANN Q'ld ref no. 10/4005 - do you or other list members > have 'inside information' on this family? > > The Anna ALTHAUS who died 15 Apr 1909 was Anna KRIEG, wife of Paul > ALTHAUS. > > My records show Anna Elizabeth ALTHAUS b 1 Oct 1890 died 28 Feb 1954, > buried Toowoomba Drayton Cem. > > Caroline Elizabeth ALTHAUS nee SCHOLL died 22 FEB 1945, Q'ld death reg > no. 1945/1846 > > > Daph > >

    11/17/2001 05:09:26
    1. Re: Samuel MULLER
    2. Bev Kerlin
    3. Good stuff Daph Thanks a heap. I'll have another look at your problem bits and pieces. Kind Regards Bev K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daph Heiner" <dheiner@tpgi.com.au> To: "Bev Kerlin" <kerlindavidbev@ozemail.com.au>; <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:43 AM Subject: Samuel MULLER > Hi Bev (Kerlin) and list > > Bev - The Q'ld BDMs have the parents of your Samuel MULLER b 3 Mar 1907 > as Otto Ferdinand b 8 Sep 1879 and Elizabeth Anna WEBER, and I have Otto > Ferdinand's parents as August MULLER and Wilhelmine BOLL. > > I've just started on your Althaus gedcom - > > I have Catherine Annie NASS (ALTHAUS) b 20 Oct 1888 death date as 13 Dec > 1969 - > > Katharina Sophie NASS, daur of Ernest GEITZ and Albertine Henrietta > WEGENER died 26/5/1948 Q'ld death reg no. 1948/2207. > > I also seem to have a mix-up with Linda Dorothy HANSON married Samuel > MULLER. A Linda Dorothy HANSON was born 19/3/1910, parents James Peter > and Martha BAUMANN Q'ld ref no. 10/4005 - do you or other list members > have 'inside information' on this family? > > The Anna ALTHAUS who died 15 Apr 1909 was Anna KRIEG, wife of Paul > ALTHAUS. > > My records show Anna Elizabeth ALTHAUS b 1 Oct 1890 died 28 Feb 1954, > buried Toowoomba Drayton Cem. > > Caroline Elizabeth ALTHAUS nee SCHOLL died 22 FEB 1945, Q'ld death reg > no. 1945/1846 > > > Daph > >

    11/17/2001 04:15:31
    1. Samuel MULLER
    2. Daph Heiner
    3. Hi Bev (Kerlin) and list Bev - The Q'ld BDMs have the parents of your Samuel MULLER b 3 Mar 1907 as Otto Ferdinand b 8 Sep 1879 and Elizabeth Anna WEBER, and I have Otto Ferdinand's parents as August MULLER and Wilhelmine BOLL. I've just started on your Althaus gedcom - I have Catherine Annie NASS (ALTHAUS) b 20 Oct 1888 death date as 13 Dec 1969 - Katharina Sophie NASS, daur of Ernest GEITZ and Albertine Henrietta WEGENER died 26/5/1948 Q'ld death reg no. 1948/2207. I also seem to have a mix-up with Linda Dorothy HANSON married Samuel MULLER. A Linda Dorothy HANSON was born 19/3/1910, parents James Peter and Martha BAUMANN Q'ld ref no. 10/4005 - do you or other list members have 'inside information' on this family? The Anna ALTHAUS who died 15 Apr 1909 was Anna KRIEG, wife of Paul ALTHAUS. My records show Anna Elizabeth ALTHAUS b 1 Oct 1890 died 28 Feb 1954, buried Toowoomba Drayton Cem. Caroline Elizabeth ALTHAUS nee SCHOLL died 22 FEB 1945, Q'ld death reg no. 1945/1846 Daph

    11/17/2001 03:43:51
    1. Re: Worth a read
    2. Beverly
    3. Hello Christine, when I was in grade school in Toowoomba one of my teachers was a Mr. Bernard Grinke - any relation? Don't know much more about him than that he taught at Newtown State School between the years of 1950-1957. cheers, Beverly. Life on Earth is Expensive, but at least you get a free trip around the sun....... So wear a hat and enjoy the ride!

    11/17/2001 03:31:52
    1. Re: Unamed child
    2. Beverly
    3. Lorraine, you really have a handle on the 'immediacy and accuracy" our ancestors paid to the registration of births, deaths and include in that the marriages. "Whoever was going to town" is the key phrase in your post. Life on the farm was difficult and not much free time to do much outside of the farm duties. Wasn't there a time when a fee was levied for people to register Births etc.? I have one of my Ggrandmother's siblings who was never registered in Queensland or anywhere for that matter. I know she lived because I interviewed her when she was 75 yrs old. guess the government did not always manage to dot their "i's" and cross their 't's". cheers, Beverly. Life on Earth is Expensive, but at least you get a free trip around the sun....... So wear a hat and enjoy the ride!

    11/17/2001 03:30:01
    1. MULLER
    2. Joe and Dianna Mellino
    3. Does anyone have information on the marriage of Kirstina (Kristina) Maria MULLER to Hans Fritz MALCHO? I would appreciate any information on this couple. Thanks Dianna Caboolture, Qld

    11/16/2001 12:01:17
    1. Unnamed
    2. Mark Bradshaw
    3. Hi List Would just like to say thanks to everyone who replied to my question, and it seems that everyone agree's that I should be able to get a certificate for this child. Regards Mark Researching for. Stolzenberg. Rossow. Schloss. Casten. Hesse. Nielsen. Beitzel.

    11/16/2001 09:53:19
    1. assistance required
    2. nbergman
    3. Hi List, My wife and I were fortunate enough to have travelled to Germany and the U.K. recently, where we thoroughly enjoyed the beautiful country and met some very fine and friendly people. We had two glorious weeks in Germany, mainly staying with friends and a distant cousin I had located during my Family history research. He and his family were living in the same village in Mecklenburg that my Bergman ancestors lived in since circa 1738 and my female Rogmann ancestors had lived in since circa 1530's. I was very lucky to say the least. It was truely wonderful to actually walk around the village of Spornitz and other nearby villages like Karenz, Eldena, St=FCck and Conow, all where my German Bergmann ancestors and families came from. While in Mecklenburg, I was fortunate to meet with Herr Udo Baarck, curator of a Family history museum in the small village of Glaisin, Mecklenburg, who very kindly gave me a copy of a book titled "Letters of a German American Farmer" by Johannes Gillhoff. This book was originally compiled from letters written in the late 1800's back to Glaisin Mecklenburg by German emigrants to the USA, mainly in Iowa. The book I read was translated by a Richard Lorenz August Trost,whom I understand from the foreword in the book has also translated another old low German book into English. This other book is one originally written by the well known German author Fritz Reuter, also a Mecklenburger, titled " Kein H=FCsung." Reuter wrote in the nineteenth century and wrote about his beloved homeland Mecklenburg. I would be very interested to learn if any english language versions of the Reuter book are available. I would be interested in purchasing a copy. Hopefully someone can assist Thanks in advance Noel Bergman Brisbane Australia RESEARCHING: Bergmann,Stumer,Wellbrock,Schroedter,Schroeder,Voje,Koehler,Paul,VichelGottschalk,Zabel, Podlich,Stepke,Erdmann,Dreher,Rogmann,Warncke,Becker,Walpole,Murchison,Nicholson,McGillivray,Robertson, O'Neill,Ryan,Kenny,Hoey,Fulloon,Wittkopp,Drafts,Stewart,McSwain,Raper,de Walpol,Eckersley,Wallace, Baker,Burke,O'Mahoney,Keays,Sadlier,Bridgeman,Fitzpatrick,Harrison,O'Brien,Heeney,Berry,Bateman,Ahearn, Lewis,Norton,Bawn,Mills,Reddie,Sheridan,Quinn,McKenzie,Tracey,Plant,Johnstone,McIntosh,Toshack,Hepburn, Wheatley,Stammers,Lynch,Bell,Pellow,Wasserzieher,Teschner,Neuber,

    11/16/2001 08:54:57
    1. assistance required
    2. nbergman
    3. Hi List, My wife and I were fortunate enough to have travelled to Germany and the U.K. recently, where we thoroughly enjoyed the beautiful country and met some very fine and friendly people. We had two glorious weeks in Germany, mainly staying with friends and a distant cousin I had located during my Family history research. He and his family were living in the same village in Mecklenburg that my Bergman ancestors lived in since circa 1738 and my female Rogmann ancestors had lived in since circa 1530's. I was very lucky to say the least. It was truely wonderful to actually walk around the village of Spornitz and other nearby villages like Karenz, Eldena, St=FCck and Conow, all where my German Bergmann ancestors and families came from. While in Mecklenburg, I was fortunate to meet with Herr Udo Baarck, curator of a Family history museum in the small village of Glaisin, Mecklenburg, who very kindly gave me a copy of a book titled "Letters of a German American Farmer" by Johannes Gillhoff. This book was originally compiled from letters written in the late 1800's back to Glaisin Mecklenburg by German emigrants to the USA, mainly in Iowa. The book I read was translated by a Richard Lorenz August Trost,whom I understand from the foreword in the book has also translated another old low German book into English. This other book is one originally written by the well known German author Fritz Reuter, also a Mecklenburger, titled " Kein H=FCsung." Reuter wrote in the nineteenth century and wrote about his beloved homeland Mecklenburg. I would be very interested to learn if any english language versions of the Reuter book are available. I would be interested in purchasing a copy. Hopefully someone can assist Thanks in advance Noel Bergman Brisbane Australia RESEARCHING: Bergmann,Stumer,Wellbrock,Schroedter,Schroeder,Voje,Koehler,Paul,VichelGottschalk,Zabel, Podlich,Stepke,Erdmann,Dreher,Rogmann,Warncke,Becker,Walpole,Murchison,Nicholson,McGillivray,Robertson, O'Neill,Ryan,Kenny,Hoey,Fulloon,Wittkopp,Drafts,Stewart,McSwain,Raper,de Walpol,Eckersley,Wallace, Baker,Burke,O'Mahoney,Keays,Sadlier,Bridgeman,Fitzpatrick,Harrison,O'Brien,Heeney,Berry,Bateman,Ahearn, Lewis,Norton,Bawn,Mills,Reddie,Sheridan,Quinn,McKenzie,Tracey,Plant,Johnstone,McIntosh,Toshack,Hepburn, Wheatley,Stammers,Lynch,Bell,Pellow,Wasserzieher,Teschner,Neuber,

    11/16/2001 08:48:05
    1. new address?
    2. Beverly
    3. Hello listers, does any one have a new email address for Barry Roser. His old address was/is roserbm@ats.com.au I have had a number of posts to the list bounce from this address so I was wondering if he had a new address? thanks in advance, Beverly Markham. Life on Earth is Expensive, but at least you get a free trip around the sun....... So wear a hat and enjoy the ride!

    11/16/2001 08:18:33
    1. Re: Schlesia
    2. Bettina Kolb
    3. Hello Albert, yes, they are the same. The German name is SCHLESIEN, the English SILESIA. Graeditz, or better Gräditz, today Grodziszcze, Poland, former in the Kreis (county) Schweidnitz, belonged to Lower Silesia. Reichenau, here it becomes difficult. There is one Reichenau City in the county of Frankenstein and a Reichenau town in the county of Glatz. HOFFMANN is a very common name, but have you tried the Silesian mailing list? Maybe someone there may be able to help you! By the way, I have Carl Heinrich HOFFMANN, 1850-1918, oo to Lina Frieda BUSCH, who migrated to Australia in 1899 and died in Brisbane. He first was married to a Marie KREIS, they had 3 children. Happy hunting Tina > I am looking to learn if SCHLESIA and SELISIA are the same place. > The persons concerned named Hoffmann were born in GRAEDITZ, SCHLESIA. > The Hoffmann family on my tree came from SILESIA. It appears the place > might > be REICHNAU. > I am trying to establish if there may be a connection. > Albert Grulke in sunny Melbourne Australia > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > -- ---------------------------------- Bettina Kolb GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net

    11/16/2001 07:02:48
    1. Re: MULLER - parents
    2. Bev Kerlin
    3. Sorry Judith A bit too recent for my folk. Cheers Bev K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Matthews" <matthews@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:12 PM Subject: MULLER - parents > > > Hello listers, > > Just 4 quick Muller questions - I am looking for the names of the parents of :- > > Arthur Ronald Muller b 26 Jul 1945 Junee, NSW > Frank Jeffrey Noel Muller b 1949 Toowoomba > Harold Douglas Muller b 4 Novl 1920 > John Muller m Lynette Steger > > These Muller's have all married into my Muller families. > > Regards to all > Judith matthews@tpg.com.au > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > >

    11/16/2001 04:00:18
    1. Muller and Müller
    2. Bev Kerlin
    3. Hello again Kerry and others interested in these folk, Do you happen to know if there is a possible connection between Christian FW MÜLLER, his spouse Dorothea Luise MOHNS, her father Christian MOHNS and your G/Grandfather Herman MÜLLER? The latter was aka Harry MOHNS wasn't he? They were all born in Bagemuhl too. If Frederike, Christian FW's daughter, was his mother, have you been able to sort out who his father may have been? Have you checked out the MOHNS family? Who is able to help me with another one please? Today, I have received a reference to a gentleman called MILLER. This fellow is most definitely one of the MÜLLERs under current scrutiny of this List, but if I referred to his Christian name a few of us might suffer from severe stroke!! Could it be another case of a variant, eg KERLIN, KIRLIN, CARLIN, CURLIN ++++? I'm leaving the "thread" here for those of you who may be interested or new. Cheers Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr Kerry Muller" <kmm@ihug.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:15 PM Subject: Fw: Muller and Müller > Hi All, > > As a follow up to Bev's email, I thought I would advise that the Herman > MÜLLER (AKA Harry Miller) & Annie Wilhelmine STIBBE are actually my > GGrandparents. > > Kind Regards > > Kerry MÜLLER > Melbourne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bev Kerlin" <kerlindavidbev@ozemail.com.au> > To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 4:19 PM > Subject: Muller and Müller > > > Hi All > > I've done that checking routine and find that Kerry MÜLLER's file and mine > are pretty close - well he helped me heaps, so that stands to reason. > > Cathy and Peter Reinke: > I can help with Gustav Adolf MÜLLER and Maria Wilhelmine REINKE but I had > the marriage date as 10 April where you have 19 April. I didn't have their > children, so thank you for that. > > Herman MÜLLER and Annie Wilhelmine STIBBE are here too, plus 2 more wives. > > Both families are connected. > > So then, where is my Samuel MULLER? Not one among them! He was born > 03.03.1907 at Roadvale, died 18.07.1963 at Brisbane and married Linda > Dorothy HANSON on 12.06.1929. > > Typing Ü - use numeric keypad and hold down Alt key and 154 = Ü > Typing ü - use numeric keypad and hold down Alt key and 129 = ü > (just a bit of trivia - but PAF sorts the two names separately and it's a > chore) > > Best wishes > Bev > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > >

    11/16/2001 04:00:06
    1. Re: Unamed child
    2. Jill TUMES
    3. In my paternal grandfather's family ( Launceston - late 1800's) all the births were registered without christian names, but once the child was baptised ( Church of England) their names and place of baptism ( bonus!) was added to the registration. Fortunately I was able to view these records on microfilm. Jill TUMES

    11/16/2001 03:14:25
    1. Schlesia
    2. Albert Grulke
    3. I am looking to learn if SCHLESIA and SELISIA are the same place. The persons concerned named Hoffmann were born in GRAEDITZ, SCHLESIA. The Hoffmann family on my tree came from SILESIA. It appears the place might be REICHNAU. I am trying to establish if there may be a connection. Albert Grulke in sunny Melbourne Australia

    11/16/2001 01:29:46
    1. Unamed child
    2. Lisa Burton
    3. Mark A child registered as 'unnamed' is NOT always a stillborn baby .... I know of an example where the majority of children born to a particular family ie. the oldest ones are registered as 'Unnamed', 'Male' or 'Female'. These children all survived infancy and, in most cases, reached adulthood and produced offspring themselves! (Having said that, I'm not certain why they were registered in this manner ...) If there's a Ref No. - ie. via the Indexes - the event was registered and, therefore, you will be able to get a certificate. Rgs Lisa Gladstone, Q The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be privileged or subject to copyright. It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). If you are not an addressee, please do not read, copy, distribute or otherwise act upon this e-mail. If you have received the e-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the e-mail. The unauthorised use of this e-mail may result in liability for breach of confidentiality, privilege or copyright. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes.

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