Dear Beverly, You can also get war records directly from the National Archives of Australia. They can be more cheaply and quickly ordered directly yourself ($16 v $40). They will invoice you. WW1 records references can be found from the NAA web site. WW2 you need to know the person's references. There is are books of these at Cannon Hill. I am sure the staff would be most helpful for you in USA if you emailed them. They certainly helpful via telephone. Records can also be ordered by post. At the research centre of the Toowoomba & DD FH Soc we have forms to be posted, so I presume these forms would be widely available at other centres. Cheers Marionne

Dear Warren, Bev and list, The FHLC CD ROM is a catalog/inventory of the microfilm/microfiche, rare and out of print books and publications held in the LDS Family History Centre in Salt Lake City, available for hire on film worldwide. It is NOT "familysearch" which is made up of entries and patrons submissions from the IGI, Pedigree files, Vital Records, Deposited Family Histories etc... found on the LDS website. Let's be realistic here, it is just not possible to reproduce all the available extracted entries from Church records and a variety of government and private collections on ONE CD ROM!!! The LDS website "familysearch" provides access not otherwise available to millions of records and indexes etc. at one site. The FHLC CD gives references and film numbers to where the primary documents can be located, you must hire the film personally to access the documents in their entirety. Always remember that not every name/place in every record held by the LDS is on the net. The FHLC on CD ROM allows you to browse micrographic and hard copy titles for detailed descriptions of items held in the Salt Lake City Family History Centre. Collectively these represent information on BILLIONS of individuals, contained in documents like church and civil registers, military, census, merchant marine, emigration, immigration, police, council, land, court, apprentiship records, private collections etc. They also include detailed information on historical maps, gazetteers, local histories, authors of published material contained in categories of documents you previously never knew existed. The FHLC CD ROM is invaluable if you know the name of the town/parish/state/county in the country of your ancestor's origin. You can very quickly find out if any records have been filmed for that town. This takes a few seconds on your home computer. Searching by NAME will only bring up the author of a publication or submission that the library holds in Utah. Searching by place or utilising the keyword option when looking for a particular group of records is far more rewarding. The keyword option is not given on the LDS website as it would bring up too many results to search on line at one time. I often browse certain categories of records looking for the title and location. It is just amazing what you find by accident! Warren, I presume you are searching for German and Australian records. Once you have established the category of documents you need, try a keyword search in German or English. Using both spellings (with or without umlauts) look for documents where you would expect to find your ancestors recorded. Titles might include Auswanderer= emigrant, Kirchenbüch=church book, Ortssippenbücher=town family lineage book, Familienbücher=family registers, Meldeamt=resident registers, Bürgerbücher or Bürgerlisten=citizenship books, Gilden or Zünfte=trade records etc..... A wonderful resourse is the CENSUS for Schleswig-Holstein, if your ancestors lived in this area. The following years are filmed 1769,1801,1803,1834,1835,1840,1845,1850, 1855 and 1860. Using a keyword title "Census Germany" you get 491 hits. Scroll down the menu to see if any records has been filmed for the area you are researching. If so click on the title and a further breakdown of titles will appear. Be sure to click on "view film notes" and or "view title details" if these options are given. You can then print off the title details and film numbers. Perhaps one of your ancestors' brother/sister migrated to America. The 1880 United States Census recording approximately 50 Million individuals is now available on CD ROM (a set of 57 CDs including the 4.0 viewer) for purchase and for viewing at your Mormon library. This census can be checked for missing German ancestors who may have applied to migrate in Germany to Australia but went to America instead. Next time you phone the lovely ladies at the Carlingford Disbrution Center, PO Box 2723, Carlingford Court NSW 2118. Ph. 1300 304 045, ask for some copies of the LDS RESEARCH OUTLINE to be posted to you. They are available for GERMANY, AUSTRALIA, POLAND, ENGLAND, SCOTLAND, IRELAND, WALES, DENMARK, NORWAY, SWEDEN, ITALY etc... and for most other countries in the world. These publications are invaluable as a guide to using the LDS holdings. Details are given of how records are collected and arranged, their classification and how to access them. In the German Research Outline there are two maps of Germany 1871-1918 & 1918-1945 showing the states at that time. Information and restrictions imposed on various records vary from country to country. The Research Outline for AUSTRALIA gives a summary of the records already filmed by the LDS. These titles include schools, orphanages, naturalization, court, convict, church, civil, obituaries, burial registers, probate, railways (like the Queensland Railways Central Division Employees'1866-1919 registers) just to mention a few. Have you checked to see if the Parish Registers of the town/area where your ancestors lived have been filmed? Perhaps you have paid for baptism/marriage/burial records, a certificate or transcription which has cost you $$$$$$$. Before ordering any records check your CD first, these records may have been filmed containing all the details you require and possibly more information on other members of your family. My understanding is that the LDS will shortly publish new research guides for some countries. Publication and cost details will appear on their website when they are for sale. Until these are available for purchase in Australia may I suggest that you avail yourselves of copies of "Research Outline" for the countries you are presently researching. PLEASE NOTE that "Research Outline" can be downloaded from the LDS website, Germany contains 52 pp, Australia 41 pp, England 61 pp, Ireland 48pp, Jewish 56pp, Scotland 47pp etc.... There is an informative leaflet for Scotland titled "Using the Scottish Church & Old Parochial Register(OPR) Index". Also very useful are the published "Genealogical Word Lists" for most European & Scandivian countries, download all these from the website. The bottom line is save $$$$$. Always check your FHLC on CD ROM first before paying for any records/research in any country worldwide including AUSTRALIA. A certificate you may have ordered can cost upwards of $15, printouts of the same record at your nearest Mormon library may cost less than $1. I apologize for the length of this response. I sincerely hope the above information will eliminate any confusion generated in accessing German and Australian records. The first step for German research in Australia, visit your nearest Mormon library. Happy Hunting Elizabeth >At 05:58 PM 22/01/2002 +1000, you wrote: >I recently purchased the FHLC on CD ROM from the LDS Distribution Centre at >Carlingford. When I did a name search of the CD, I was shown only one record of the >particular name whereas when I searched the LDS online facility I got dozens of >references to that name. >Is there a trick to searching the CD that I'm missing? > >Warren > > >Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:56:41 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: kerlindavidbev@ozemail.com.au Tue Jan 22 14:56:40 2002 >From: "Bev Kerlin" <kerlindavidbev@ozemail.com.au> >Old-To: "Warren" <warrain41@yahoo.com.au>, <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: LDS FHLC CD ROM >Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:56:18 +1000 > >Hi Warren > >If you are talking about the British Vital Records Index then your story is >spot on! >I have been trying to help some people in Ireland using that thing. It's >hopeless, but once in a while - up will come a worthwhile one. > >Good Luck >Bev

Hi, Just a note to bring to your attention, the Milne Bay Military Museum, originally HQ for 11th Light Horse, Toowoomba, then the headquarters of the 25th Battalion, The Darling Downs Regiment, now will undertake family research of your ancestor if he/she served in either of the two great wars we didn't have to have. You will need the serial number of the person and his/her name for them to send for the details. They do not have them on site but can get them from the Archives for us, (saves a bit of paper work on our behalf). There is a small fee involved. Please contact the Museum at P.O. Box 94, Toowoomba, Qld, 4350, for more details.......PS I have no connection with the Museum, but think it is lousy, that they are having some much trouble with government red tape. They are attempting to stage a re-inactment to mark the 60th anniversary of the march our troops made from Cabarlah to Spring Bluff to catch the train to Brisbane and from there to " hell's entrance" - the war back in 1942 but getting nowhere from all levels of government, and the local defence forces in so far as co-operation etc and promotion, so I'm told. Cheers Jim

Dear Jim, thanks for that information about the military records available. My father was conscripted into the Army in WW2 and was in Cabarlah. He said that he soon learned not to volunteer for anything. However, one day while on parade, the sargeant in command asked if there were any carpenters and joiners in the company. They were to step forward. My father thought they would be sent to build something at the camp, so he and others stepped forward. When he, and others stepped forward, the sargeant dismissed the other soldiers and told the handful of carpenters and joiners to follow him. They did. To their surprise,and delight, they were mustered out of the army and sent back to their joinery and carpentry employers and were under a type of contract (as my father explained to me) with the army to build munition boxes and that is what he did for the duration of the war. Unfortunately, I do not know his army registration number or the dates of his service in Cabarlah, but I believe that he was there for a number of months before being mustered out. cheers, Beverly.

Hi Warren If you are talking about the British Vital Records Index then your story is spot on! I have been trying to help some people in Ireland using that thing. It's hopeless, but once in a while - up will come a worthwhile one. Good Luck Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren" <warrain41@yahoo.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:58 PM Subject: LDS FHLC CD ROM > I recently purchased the FHLC on CD ROM from the LDS Distribution Centre at Carlingford. When I did a name search of the CD, I was shown only one record of the particular name whereas when I searched the LDS online facility I got dozens of references to that name. > Is there a trick to searching the CD that I'm missing? > > Warren > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I recently purchased the FHLC on CD ROM from the LDS Distribution Centre at Carlingford. When I did a name search of the CD, I was shown only one record of the particular name whereas when I searched the LDS online facility I got dozens of references to that name. Is there a trick to searching the CD that I'm missing? Warren

Oops. forgot the site. http://users.bigpond.net.au/bolly margaret mcnamara <memcnamara@yahoo.com> wrote: Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:19:36 -0800 (PST) From: margaret mcnamara Subject: Biskup.Bauer.Dahtler.Otto.Ranish. Family Tree To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com This is the result of a posting on this site and to send a thank you to those how sent me info which I passed on to my dau-in-laws sister's husband. This family tree is done in a different format to the usual. So you are invited to have a look and see. Marg McN --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail.

This is the result of a posting on this site and to send a thank you to those how sent me info which I passed on to my dau-in-laws sister's husband. This family tree is done in a different format to the usual. So you are invited to have a look and see. Marg McN --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail.

Listers, this was sent to me from the Australia OBITS list on rootsweb. Just thought it might be of help to our beginning genealogists who have recently joined the list. cheers, Beverly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Boothe" <philsbarbie@cei.net> To: <AUSTRALIA-OBITS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: [AUSTRALIA-OBITS] FYI~~Fw: [IOWA-OLD-NEWS] While not old, a newspaper suggestion for genealogy help > > I wanted to pass on a suggestion for newspaper related genealogy > research. > > 5-6 years ago I went on a cross-country trip for 9 weeks. Genealogy > and sight seeing were the main reasons for planning the trip. > > About 2 months before I went, I placed a few advertisements in the > smaller town newspapers with a "query". Some of the considerations I > made in doing this were: > > 1. My target audience was primarily older folks who would have > remembered these people. > > 2. The newspaper is a weekly edition. > > 3. Older folks are typically home-bound, and usually read the paper > from cover-to-cover. > > 4. Advertisement was 2-3 columns wide, 4 inches high. Text was large > to accomodate seniors' eyesight. > > 5. Plan your ad well. I was very concise. It was something like > this: > NEED HELP WITH FAMILY TREE > > Name (year range of life) m. (wife's name, year range) > Children (year range, spouse info) > Children (year range, spouse info) > g-Children (year range, spouse info) > > Added known info here, adding any "memorable" information that > might spark a time-worn memory. > (Known as "seven sisters"... Ran grocery store at... whatever) > > CONTACT INFO!!! Address, Phone numbers for home, work, cell phone. > > 6. Drop by the newspaper office in person! I paid my bill in person > (shocked them, that's for sure!) and found out that a few people had > actually left their name/number at the newspaper office. If you're > not going to be in the area, ask that they hold any locally delivered > info and you'll call back. > > 7. Run the ad for 2-3 weeks. The newspaper will work with you on good > design, placement, etc. if they are getting an ad for a few weeks. > They also do this for a job, they can also make suggestions, and even > ASK them for suggestions. Again, I tried to "trigger" memories and > use a font size that would ensure that seniors would be able to read > it and fought with concise layout and putting enough info to get more > responses. It might seem expensive, but what price are you willing to > pay to get TIME with people who know, or who have resources you'd > never find out about otherwise? > > > 8. Follow up with those who contact you IMMEDIATELY, to arrange a > time to visit with them or call them. THANK THEM for responding! > Get acquainted with them, especially if you're going to be meeting > them later! Get past the awkwardness now. > Be prepared with questions that will generate lengthy answers and > not simply a yes/no. "Tell me what you remember about ...." or > "What kind of person was...", "What did you like to do with them?", > "What talents/skills did they have?", "What's a funny thing you > remember about them?" etc. > > 9. If visiting in person, take a tape recorder that has good > batteries, has been tested for picking up sound, has a fresh tape > (carry backup tapes/batteries!) and ASK for permission to tape. I try > to make it a small pocket recorder that doesn't attract attention to > the size, because after awhile, they start to forget the recorder is > there and become a little more candid. Check to make sure you're > picking up their voice! Be aware of nearby power cords, medical > equipment, etc. that can blur the sounds. Bring paper/pencils/pens > to jot down notes that you can go back to for clarification when time > permits - don't interrupt them! BRING PHOTOS!!! Nothing brings back > a memory like a photo! > > 10. If calling by phone, arrange a time that is good for them, and > takes into account any time zone differences. Allow for an hour or > two, be willing to pick up the phone tab. It's a requirement by law > that if you record it, you ask them for permission first. And I would > have that tape running when you're asking for permission, so that it > cannot be denied later if it ever comes down to that. > > 11. Don't interrupt them... Let them talk. You're asking them to go > back through their memories and sometimes the darnest things come out. :-) > > 12. Go over the notes/interview immediately, so that things are fresh > in your mind, and you can get back to them with more questions. > > 13. Be cognizant of their age, attention span, disabilities, > illnesses, endurance, etc. Treat them like your grandma/grandpa > (assuming you're on good terms with them. :-) > > 14. Be sure to ask them if they know of anybody else who might have > information on the people you're seeking. You never know who might be > known to have a photo collection stashed someplace, or might have > missed the article. This could include local historians, museums, > family historians, crazy aunts that would keep tabs on the family. > > 15. Followup with a thank you! If visiting in person, perhaps take > them out to lunch or ask if you could drive them to the locations that > pertain to the people being discussed. It gives you a chance to ask > more questions, but also to have them reminisce about the olden days. > (One took me to his wife's grave... It was really spooky standing > there looking at HIS gravestone, and having him stand next to me. > There was no death date, but still....) If they take you to a > graveyard to show you graves, throw other names out there... They may > suddenly remember other folks, and where they're buried! And the > stories behind them! > > > > > Well, I can't think of too much else. Let me just say that I was > *VERY SUCCESSFUL* using this method of using a large ad for a few > weeks in small-town papers. > > As I said, it's not in the "OLD NEWSPAPER" dept, but you CAN make the > paper work for you... > > Justin > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -- > Justin Masters (Systems Programmer) PH: 916 356-6735 > Intel Corp. FM6-17 FAX: 916 377-2288 > 1900 Prairie City Rd, Folsom, CA 95630 jmasters@pcocd2.intel.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== AUSTRALIA-OBITS Mailing List ==== > List Mom for the AUSTRALIA-OBITS mailing list~~ > Diana Boothe philsbarbie@cei.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi all I am requesting help with my grandmother's step-father, please. Elizabeth MADDEN (Bessie) was married to William Henry MALLYON. After his death in 1940, she married Frank SMITH on the 5 June 1942 in Rockhampton. From the marriage certificate, Frank was born in Town March, Cambridge Shire, England, UK on the 19May1869. He was the son of Abraham SMITH and Sarah CHANDLER. He was a widower with several children. His first wife may have had the maiden name of SCHNEIDER and I know he had at least one son, Frank SMITH. Does this ring a bell with anyone please? When I get the chance, I will visit the library and check out SMITH deaths leading up to 1942 for a Mrs SMITH whose father was a SCHNEIDER, and possibly births from the 1890's onwards. I do not know his arrival in Australia. I am very close to finishing a book on Michael MADDEN's family, and I do not know very much on this son-in-law. Thank you Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich Researching: 5. MADDEN, Coghlane, Burke, - Ireland 1863 - Qld Aust. Including - Collins, Burke, RYAN, DOYLE, MARTIN, SCANLAN, Campbell, Smart, Callaghan, O'Brien

Hi all, Firstly, may I please have a gripe? One of the easiest ways to get your message across is to YELL or SCREAM and it also applies to the use of CAPITALS for the SURNAMES we are researching. Secondly, here is a list of names I am researching. I would be interested in exchanging details with anyone researching these families please. Researching: 1. convicts: Charles CROSS 1790 Neptune; Rose FLOOD 1790 Neptune; Richard HAYES 1811 Admiral Gambier; Edward McGEE 1807 Duke of Portland; Johanna McCARTHY (nee CONNOR) 1818 Maria; James GALLAGHER 1825 Minstrel. 2. WESCHE, KADDATZ, SCHAPER - Germany 1880's - Qld Aust. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=wesche 3. MALLYON, GIBBS, PURKISS - Essex, UK 1874 - Qld Aust. Including - DAVISON, MORAN, HILLIER, BURNET. 4. McGUIRE - Ireland 1842 Redcoat - Qld Aust. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~garter1/mcguiretom.htm Including - MELIA, WORLEY, MOORE, SAUNDERS, THOMPSON, McFARLANE, MARTIN. 5. MADDEN, COGHLANE, BURKE, - Ireland 1863 - Qld Aust. Including - COLLINS, BURKE, RYAN, DOYLE, MARTIN, SCANLAN, CAMPBELL, SMART, CALLAGHAN, O'BRIEN Thank you Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich

My niece is trying to do her family tree and is having problems trying to find decendants of Eva Beatrice Doolan who married Alfred James Michel on the 18 Apr 1936 ,in Brisbane,Queensland,Australia. She would be glad of any help she can get. Replies may be sent to me and I will forward them on to her. Thanks in advance. Kevin.

Lorrae, I have a lady named Grace May CALLAGHAN. She married Warwick Harrold KAHLER on 14 Dec 1940. Warwick was born 25 oct 1912 so I assume that Grace was born around 1912 or later. I have no parents for her or any other information on her at all. Is she one of the CALLAGHAN names that you are researching? cheers, Beverly.

Forwarded to me from someone who was caught by the hoax!! Cynthia "Subject: virus hoax oops! SULFNBK.EXE Warning http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html Reported on: April 17, 2001 Last Updated on: December 26, 2001 at 10:45:22 AM PST Printer-friendly version Tell a Friend Symantec Security Response encourages you to ignore any messages regarding this hoax. It is harmless and is intended only to cause unwarranted concern. Type: Hoax Description: The following hoax email was first reported in Brazil, and the original email was in Portuguese. Other language versions are in circulation. Currently, the English language versions are most common. CAUTIONS: a.. This particular email message is a hoax. The file that is mentioned in the hoax, however, Sulfnbk.exe, is a Microsoft Windows 95/98/Me utility that is used to restore long file names, and like any .exe file, it can be infected by a virus that targets .exe files. NOTE: The Sulfnbk.exe file is not required to run Windows. It may be necessary if you need to restore long file names if the file names become corrupted. For additional information, read the Microsoft Knowledge Base article Description of Sulfnbk.exe and How to Replace the Program File (Q301316) b.. The virus/worm W32.Magistr.24876@mm can arrive as an attachment named Sulfnbk.exe. The Sulfnbk.exe file used by Windows is located by default in the C:\Windows\Command folder. NOTE: The C:\Windows\Command folder is the usual default location for this file. It is possible that if you have a custom installation, or a special configuration that was installed by the computer manufacturer, the file could be in a different location. If the file is located in any other folder (except as noted), or arrives as an attachment to a email message, then it is possible that the file is infected. In this case, if a scan with the latest virus definitions and with NAV set to scan all files does not detect the file as being infected, quarantine and submit the file to SARC for analysis by following the instructions in the document How to submit a file to SARC using Scan and Deliver. c.. If you have deleted the Sulfnbk.exe file from the C:\Windows\Command folder and want to know how to restore the file, see the How to restore the Sulfnbk.exe file section at the end of this document. English versions NOTE: Several versions are shown, with the most recent ones shown first. Many more have been reported. All have the same basic theme. Version 1 Hello! I just got this letter from my friend and yes I had the virus as well please follow the directions to see if you have the virus and then follow the directions to get rid of it. Like my friend I am sorry that I passed it along as well. Dear All: We received a virus on a message. I followed the instructions below and found that it had been spread to our computer. I followed the instructions and located the virus and was able to delete it. The bad news is that you probably have it, as you are in My Address book! More bad news is that my anti virus program did not detect this virus. The virus lies dormant for 14 days and then "kills" your hard drive. Here is what to do. If you follow the instructions and then see that you have the virus, you need to send a similar e-mail to everyone in your address book. Remove the virus by following these steps: 1. Go to "Start." Then to "Find" or "Search". 2. In the "Search for files or folders" type sulfnbk.exe -- this is the name of the virus. 3. In the "Look in" section, make sure you are searching Drive C. 4. Hit "Search" or "Find". 5. If your search finds this file, it will be an ugly blackish icon that will have the name sulfnbk.exe. DO NOT OPEN IT! If it does not show up on your first "Search", try a "New Search." 6. 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It will ask if you want to send it to the recycle bin - yes 8. go to your desktop (where all your icons are) and double-click on the recycle bin 9. right click on sulfnbk.exe and delete again or just empty the recycle bin IF YOU FIND THIS.....SEND IT TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT IS TRANSFERRED. Version 3 Do you believe that a friend of mine sent me an alert and the procedure that we have to follow for the possible infection of SULFNBK.EXE. And I had checked, just to make sure. An then... the file was there, hidden even of McAfee and Norton, maybe waiting something to start work. Well, see bellow the procedure that I followed step by step, and I found the file: 1. Start/Find Folders. Type the file name: SULFNBK.EXE 2. If it find, open Windows Explorer, browse into the folder where the file is and delete it. Do not click with left button on the file and do not open it. 3. Just delete it 4. Mine was on Windows/Command 5. The virus from the person who gave the alert was on Windows/Config Yes, Norton and McAfee do not detect it. We do not know if it makes some damage on the machine, but I think that anybody will not want to test it to know, will it? Folks, this is not fun, I deleted it from my computer. And my definitions are updated. Do the same, ok? Version 4 This one has additional text stating that the virus will activate on June 1st. It was brought to my attention yesterday that a virus is in circulation via email. I looked for it and to my surprise I found it on mine. .. Please follow the directions and remove it from yours TODAY!!!!!!! No Virus software can detect it. It will become active on June 1, 2001. It might be too late by then. It wipes out all files and folders on the hard drive. This virus travels thru E-mail and migrates to the 'C:\windows\command' folder. The bad part is: You need to contact everyone you have sent ANY E-mail to in the past few months. Many major companies have found this virus on their computers. Please help your friends !!!!!!!! DO NOT RELY ON YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE. McAFEE and NORTON CANNOT DETECT IT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT BECOME A VIRUS UNTIL JUNE 1ST. WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT OPEN THE FILE!!! How to restore the Sulfnbk.exe file If you have deleted this file, restoration is optional. Sulfnbk.exe is a Microsoft Windows utility that is used to restore long file names. It is not needed for normal system operation. If you want to restore it, there is more than one way to do this. See the information that follows. NOTES: a.. The C:\Windows\Command folder is the usual default location for this file. It is possible that if you have a custom installation, or a special configuration that was installed by the computer manufacturer, the file could be in a different location. b.. The Sulfnbk.exe file is not required to run Windows. It may be necessary if you need to restore long file names if the file names become corrupted. For additional information, read the Microsoft Knowledge Base article Description of Sulfnbk.exe and How to Replace the Program File (Q301316) c.. The instructions in this document are provided for your convenience. The extraction of Windows files uses Microsoft programs and commands. Symantec does not provide warranty support for or assistance with Microsoft products. If you have any questions, please see your Windows documentation or contact Microsoft. Windows Me If you are using Windows Me, you can restore the file using the System Configuration Utility. 1. Click Start and then click Run. 2. Type msconfig and then press Enter. 3. Click Extract Files. The "Extract one file from installation disk" dialog box appears. 4. In the "Specify the system file you would like to restore" box, type the following, and then click Start: c:\windows\command\sulfnbk.exe NOTE: If you installed Windows to a different location, make the appropriate substitution. The Extract File dialog box appears. 5. Next to the "Restore from" box, click Browse, and browse to the location of the Windows installation files. If they were copied to the hard drive, this is, by default, C:\Windows\Options\Install. You can also insert the Windows installation CD in the CD-ROM drive and browse to that location. 6. Click OK and follow the prompts. Windows 98 If you are using Windows 98, you can restore the file using the System File Checker. 1. Click Start and then click Run. 2. Type sfc and then press Enter. 3. Click "Extract one file from installation disk." 4. In the "Specify the system file you would like to restore" box, type the following, and then click Start: c:\windows\command\sulfnbk.exe NOTE: If you installed Windows to a different location, make the appropriate substitution. The Extract File dialog box appears. 5. Next to the "Restore from" box click Browse, and browse to the location of the Windows installation files. If they were copied to the hard drive, this is, by default, C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. You can also insert the Windows installation CD in the CD-ROM drive and browse to that location. 6. Click OK and follow the prompts. Windows 95 (or alternative method for Windows 98/Me) If you are using Windows 95, you need to use the extract command. This can also be used on Windows 98/Me. 1. Click Start, point to Find or Search, and then click Files or Folders. 2. Make sure that "Look in" is set to (C:) and that Include subfolders is checked. 3. In the "Named" or "Search for..." box, type: precopy1 4. Click Find Now or Search Now. If it does not exist on the hard drive, then insert the Windows installation CD and repeat the search on that drive. 5. When you find the file, write down the location of Precopy1, for example, C:\Windows\Options\Cabs. This is your Source Path. 6. The general form of the Extract command is: extract /a <Source Path>\precopy1.cab sulfnbk.exe /L c:\windows\command NOTE: Make sure that you include the /a switch, as shown. Depending on your version of Windows, the Sulfnbk,exe file can be in a .cab file other than Precopy1.cab. By using the /a switch, the Extract program will look first in the Precopy1.cab, and if the file is not found there, it will look in all subsequent .cab files until it is found, and can be extracted. So if the source path is C:\Windows\Options\Cabs, then the Extract command becomes: extract /a c:\windows\options\cabs\precopy1.cab sulfnbk.exe /L c:\windows\command NOTE: If you installed Windows to a different location, make the appropriate substitution. 7. Click Start and then click Run. 8. Type the following, making the appropriate substitutions as previously noted extract /a <Source Path>\precopy1.cab sulfnbk.exe /L c:\windows\command 9. Click OK. For more information on how to use the Microsoft Extract command, see the Microsoft Knowledge Base document, How to Extract Original Compressed Windows Files, Article ID: Q129605 Murray & Carol Sneesby Mimili Community PO Box 2232 Alice Springs NT 0871

Descendants please contact Denyse Bonney in Queensland < Denyse1@bigpond.com > Name: Johannes STILLER Spouse: Friederike Marie Auguste KÄGELER (sister of my great-grandmother) Children: 1: William Herman "Herman" STILLER Birth: 3 Jul 1885, Evandale, Adelaide, South Australia Spouse: Nellie Rumsberry SMITH -------------------------------------------------- 2: Frederick Charles Powell STILLER Birth: 7 Apr 1895, Evandale, St Peters, Dist Norwood, Adelaide, Sth Australia -------------------------------------------------- 3: Johannas Emil STILLER Birth: 10 Jun 1897, Payneham, Adelaide, South Australia Spouse: Emily ..

>Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:48:13 +1100 (EST) >From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@whirlwind.netspace.net.au> >To: <raye@netspace.net.au> >Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours >Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (warning-timeout) > > ********************************************** > ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** > ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** > ********************************************** > >The original message was received at Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:47:33 +1100 (EST) >from dialup-t1-64.Sydney.netspace.net.au [203.33.166.64] > > ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- ><AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootswed.com> > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ><AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootswed.com>... Deferred: Connection refused by rootswed.com. >Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours >Will keep trying until message is 1 day old >Reporting-MTA: dns; whirlwind.netspace.net.au >Arrival-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:47:33 +1100 (EST) > >Final-Recipient: RFC822; AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootswed.com >Action: delayed >Status: 4.4.1 >Remote-MTA: DNS; rootswed.com >Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:48:13 +1100 (EST) >Will-Retry-Until: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:47:33 +1100 (EST) >Return-Path: <raye@netspace.net.au> >Received: from ray (dialup-t1-64.Sydney.netspace.net.au [203.33.166.64]) > by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id g0F3lXI86384 > for <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootswed.com>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:47:33 +1100 (EST) >Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020115144723.0079b7c0@pop.netspace.net.au> >X-Sender: raye@pop.netspace.net.au >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:47:23 +1100 >To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootswed.com >From: Ray Allum <raye@netspace.net.au> >Subject: Re: Württemberg Index >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >>Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:37:12 +1100 >>To: "Lisa Burton" <Lisa.Burton@wilsonhtm.com.au> >>From: Ray Allum <raye@netspace.net.au> >>Subject: Re: Württemberg Index >>In-Reply-To: <sc3ef458.068@mail.wilsonhtm.com.au> > >Dear Lisa and List > >You will need to check <ancestry.com> regularly, I use this site at least >once a week. > >If you have tried 'name search' you will be aware of the results obtained >in the detailed menu appearing for each search. Click on Immigration and >Naturalization for a detailed breakdown. If the "lock icon" for each >index/database is closed, you must subscribe to ancestry for access. When >the lock is open, access is allowed, even if only for a short period. > >Total numbers shown for each name enquiry indicate the entries appearing in >each database, i.e. Wuerttemberg, Baden, Brandenburg indexes, etc. This >gives you an idea of which index to check. > >Another chance of making a family connection is if any other members of >your ancestor's family migrated to America. Click on the Social Security >Death Index (open all the time), if a match is made, post a free "postem" >note against the surname you are researching. A fellow researcher may >respond and be able to assist with your inquiry. Also check 'World Tree' >entries for anyone researching the same family. > >However you may not be aware "Emmigrants from Baden-Würtemberg" data base >can be found at <http://grossmann.freehomepage.com/auswanderer.html> (only >in German at the moment). Many of these databases concentrate on German >migration to America but also record migrants to Australia. Check out this >site and contact the submitter Hans Glatzle in Hauptstaatsarchiv, >Stuttgart, for further information. > >Hope this helps, > >Elizabeth > > > > >

HOLZWARTH= Carl Ferdinand, 30 nov 1822. Schoeckingen. Leonberg. July 1854. 837964 Subject: Württemburg Emigrants Index Would some kind soul have access to the WEI ("Württemburg Emigrants Index")? Looking for the following (to Australia): Authenrieth/Antenrieth Deuble/Dauble Gossner Holzwarth Moeser Rauchle Reithmuller/Riethmuller Seibert/Liebert Uhlmann Weichardt Weiss/Weisse I am uncertain what format this Index takes and so don't know if the following is even feasible, but I would also be interested in any others persons from the same villages/towns/cities applying to leave at the same time as any of the above ie. prior to December 1858. Thank you, in anticipation! Lisa Gladstone, Q The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be privileged or subject to copyright. It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). If you are not an addressee, please do not read, copy, distribute or otherwise act upon this e-mail. If you have received the e-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the e-mail. The unauthorised use of this e-mail may result in liability for breach of confidentiality, privilege or copyright. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

At 09:29 AM 11/01/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hi List.. >Could someone please tell me anything about the Marburg Archives in >Germany...I have been advised by a lister on another list that my Friedrich >Habermann from Eimelrod, is listed in the emigration records at the Marburg >Archives. > >I have hired the two films at LDS for the emigration indices from Hessen >Darmstadt..where he said he was born but could not find him.... >I also hired the actual films of the emigration records.....but could not >understand the names..(that's real desperation :-(( ..).. > Dear Gay, Marburg Archives: First of all you must have exact details of the record you wish the archives to search on your behalf, otherwise you will be charged for a detailed search of their emigration holdings, VERY COSTLY. Contact the lister who gave you this information and ask for the source and format of the record in which Friedrich Habermann's name was found. Once you have these details, you can then check the Family History Library Catalog at your Mormon library or on the Internet at Familysearch, to see if it has been filmed. This filmed record/document may be available for hire here in Australia. Better still purchase the FHLC on CD ROM from the LDS Distributation Centre 756 Pennant Hills Rd. Carlingford 2118 NSW, phone 02 9841 5333, it costs under $10 post free. This CD is very cost effective as it saves hours spent on the net, a must for every researcher. It is possible to do a keyword search on the CD ROM and will bring up records that have been filmed in Germany and Australia you may otherwise never know existed. However if a record you require is only available in hard copy, held in the LDS Library in Salt Lake City, you may be able to request a photocopy of the information subject to copyright, but you must know the exact reference details. Always keep in mind that in many instances our ancestors were born in one place but may have applied to migrate in another town/district, perhaps where they resided or were employed at the time. They may have begun their journey to Australia from yet another place, quite distant from their district/state of origin. Intending migrants may have been resident and employed for a short period in Hamburg before leaving for their final destination. There are Hamburg Police Records: Passport records for both citizens and "NON RESIDENTS 1852-1929", also "Resident Registers": These total 941 films called "Einwohnermeldeamt". By using (Meldeamt) as a keyword, search on the FHLC CD ROM, all available records are listed. Another resource on the Internet: Auswanderer(emigrant)databases from several regions/states in Germany, go to <http://grossmann.freehomepage.com/auswanderer.html> some are only in German, others have introductory pages in English. Many of these databases concentrate on German migration to America but also record migrants to Australia and other countries and are being updated all the time. Most have a name index which can be serched and further information can be made by contacting the relevant German Archives or the submitter. If Friederich Habermann's name was not found in the Hesse Darmstadt indexes, you will have to try other areas and keep in mind details recorded vary in all types of records and related documents. It is very important to know the exact title of the record you were told about by the person on the other list. Hope this helps, and others on the list as well, Elizabeth

Thank you Elizabeth for this valuable information. 1300 304 045 will get you directly to the distribution centre for cost of local call. Warren *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 15/01/2002 at 2:37 PM Ray Allum wrote: At 09:29 AM 11/01/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hi List.. >Could someone please tell me anything about the Marburg Archives in >Germany...I have been advised by a lister on another list that my Friedrich >Habermann from Eimelrod, is listed in the emigration records at the Marburg >Archives. > >I have hired the two films at LDS for the emigration indices from Hessen >Darmstadt..where he said he was born but could not find him.... >I also hired the actual films of the emigration records.....but could not >understand the names..(that's real desperation :-(( ..).. > Dear Gay, Marburg Archives: First of all you must have exact details of the record you wish the archives to search on your behalf, otherwise you will be charged for a detailed search of their emigration holdings, VERY COSTLY. Contact the lister who gave you this information and ask for the source and format of the record in which Friedrich Habermann's name was found. Once you have these details, you can then check the Family History Library Catalog at your Mormon library or on the Internet at Familysearch, to see if it has been filmed. This filmed record/document may be available for hire here in Australia. Better still purchase the FHLC on CD ROM from the LDS Distributation Centre 756 Pennant Hills Rd. Carlingford 2118 NSW, phone 02 9841 5333, it costs under $10 post free. This CD is very cost effective as it saves hours spent on the net, a must for every researcher. It is possible to do a keyword search on the CD ROM and will bring up records that have been filmed in Germany and Australia you may otherwise never know existed. However if a record you require is only available in hard copy, held in the LDS Library in Salt Lake City, you may be able to request a photocopy of the information subject to copyright, but you must know the exact reference details. Always keep in mind that in many instances our ancestors were born in one place but may have applied to migrate in another town/district, perhaps where they resided or were employed at the time. They may have begun their journey to Australia from yet another place, quite distant from their district/state of origin. Intending migrants may have been resident and employed for a short period in Hamburg before leaving for their final destination. There are Hamburg Police Records: Passport records for both citizens and "NON RESIDENTS 1852-1929", also "Resident Registers": These total 941 films called "Einwohnermeldeamt". By using (Meldeamt) as a keyword, search on the FHLC CD ROM, all available records are listed. Another resource on the Internet: Auswanderer(emigrant)databases from several regions/states in Germany, go to <http://grossmann.freehomepage.com/auswanderer.html> some are only in German, others have introductory pages in English. Many of these databases concentrate on German migration to America but also record migrants to Australia and other countries and are being updated all the time. Most have a name index which can be serched and further information can be made by contacting the relevant German Archives or the submitter. If Friederich Habermann's name was not found in the Hesse Darmstadt indexes, you will have to try other areas and keep in mind details recorded vary in all types of records and related documents. It is very important to know the exact title of the record you were told about by the person on the other list. Hope this helps, and others on the list as well, Elizabeth ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

For anyone who has ancestors buried in these cemeteries... The Cemetery has digital photographs of the Headstones on the graves in this cemetery... The Cemetery is now on email......at gayler@bundaberg.qld.gov.au .. They have a great database of all burials in that cemetery and could tell me immediately eg: that there were 26 Griffins buried in the Cemetery Just contact them on line for details of how to purchase the digital image of the gravestone... The hard copy of the digital image I bought a couple of years ago, for my ancestor is excellent... Wish more cemeteries would get up with the times... Cheers for now.. Gay