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    1. Researchers in Sachsen & Thuringen, please
    2. Denyse Bonney
    3. Can anyone recommend researchers in Sachsen & Thuringen who read & write English, please? Thanking you, Denyse Bonney < Denyse1@bigpond.com > Queensland

    03/21/2002 04:09:41
    1. Re: Re:KRANZ -Johannisberg Prussia
    2. Bev Kerlin
    3. Hello Michelle and other Listers What an incredible contribution you have given to the List! Thank you for sharing your find with us. The areas I am seriously searching are not around there, but I imagine a heck of a lot of our other friends have rellies from Johannisberg! Bev kerlindavidbev@ozemail.com.au Researching: KERLIN/BELL Co Down, HARRISON/WILLIS Co Armagh (Ireland] BARKER/YOUNG or YOUNGs Norfolk, BARNETT/CANTLE Gloucester, COURTNEY/DALTON Camberwell [England] GIESEMANN/TIMM [Prussia], HANSEN/HENDRIKSEN etc [Denmark] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Kranz" <m_kranz@dds.nl> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 5:11 PM Subject: Re:KRANZ -Johannisberg Prussia > Hi All , > > While searching for records of my Great Great Great Grandfather Simon KRANZ > ( born abt 1828 in Johannisberg Prussia ) I have found a very good site > with names of Immigrants from the Rheingau area. It seems a lot of people > from this area went to Australia between 1806 and 1866. I have found Simon > Kranz on this list where as I could find no records in Australia for his > arrival. It is a great site with lots of information ( in German ) I have > included the webpage and I will post some other names , who knows I may > help someone else in their search.

    03/21/2002 01:18:45
    1. Re:KRANZ -Johannisberg Prussia
    2. Jan Glasby
    3. Hi Michelle, Thanks for posting this list. >Balzer >Sebastian >Geisenheim >Australien 04.12.1851 >mit Schiff "San Francisco" von Hamburg nach Sydney, Weinbauer, mit Frau und >2 Kindern. These are my husband's ggg grandparents and his gg grandfather. Is Sebastian Geisenheim the name of the place they came from? I had a look at the site but don't understand a word :-) Am I missing anything important? Cheers Jan

    03/20/2002 03:44:29
    1. SURNAME - MÖSSNER (aka MESNER, MESSNER)
    2. Michael Rowley
    3. I am trying to piece together some background of some of my German ancestors, namely my G/G/Grandparents Johann Mich. Mössner and his wife Christiane (nee Bochringer). Shortly after their arrival at Maryborough on 28 March 1856 via "Helene" they went to Wetheron. At that time they had 2 children Christiane (later known as Annie) aged 8, and Johann Gottl.aged 3. Another daughter Eliza was born abt 1858 at Degilbo. Naturally I would like to hear if anyone knows anything of the family, but also about Wetheron and Degilbo. I am not a Queenslander and am interested to know if those 2 places are (or were) actual towns, or the names of properties where perhaps these folk went to work. Thanks, Michael in Sydney

    03/20/2002 10:18:43
    1. Re:KRANZ -Johannisberg Prussia
    2. Michelle Kranz
    3. Hi All , While searching for records of my Great Great Great Grandfather Simon KRANZ ( born abt 1828 in Johannisberg Prussia ) I have found a very good site with names of Immigrants from the Rheingau area. It seems a lot of people from this area went to Australia between 1806 and 1866. I have found Simon Kranz on this list where as I could find no records in Australia for his arrival. It is a great site with lots of information ( in German ) I have included the webpage and I will post some other names , who knows I may help someone else in their search. http://home.t-online.de/home/michel-walluf/seite16.htm http://home.t-online.de/home/michel-walluf/index.html Abt Catharina Geisenheim Australien siehe Haefner, Peter Abt Elisabeth Ruedesheim Australien siehe Zotzenbach, Anton Adam Nicolaus Geisenheim Australien 1855 mit Schiff "Daniel Ross" von Hamburg nach Sydney, 1858 naturalisiert, 36 Jahre, siedelte in Toowoomba (QLD); heiratete 1859 Maria Ergers in Brisbane / Moreton Bay Altenkirch Thomas Lorch Australien 1858 mit Schiff "Grasbrook" von Hamburg nach Adelaide, 29 Jahre alt, mit Frau Bertha, 25 Jahre und einem 10 Monate altem Kind. J.P. Ankermueller Johann Hallgarten Australien 29.01.1855 mit Frau und Kindern; Mit Schiff "Wilhelmsberg" von Hamburg nach Sydney, Weinbauer, mit Frau Ernestina geb. Jombach von Hallgarten und 2 Kindern Antoni Catharina Kiedrich Australien siehe Marker, Peter Appel Barbara Lorch Australien siehe Dreis, Balthasar Arnold Anna Maria Hallgarten Australien siehe Brunner, Johann Arnold Carl Joseph Oberwalluf Australien 1849 mit Schiff "Parland" von London nach Sydney, Weinbauer, auf dem Schiff Trauung mit Anna Maria Baumann (nach einer anderen Fundstelle lautete der Name der Frau Margaretha Engelmann). Arnold Johann Hallgarten Australien 13.01.1855 mit Frau und Kindern Artz Agnese Wollmerschied Australien 27.07.1857 ledig, grossjaehrig; mit Schiff "Gottorp" oder "Helvetia" von Bremen nach Sydney. Sie heiratete 1865 in Sydney Nicolaus martin, der mit dem Schiff "Helvetia" nach Australien kam. Artzbach Johann Geisenheim Australien 1863 mit Schiff "Caesar Godeffroy" von Hamburg nach Moreton Bay, sie siedelten in Queensland. Auer Eduard Conrad Erbach Australien 1849 mit Schiff "Beulah" von London nach Sydney, Weinbauer, mit Frau Anna Maria, sie siedelten in Queensland, Auer Georg Joseph Erbach Australien 1849 mit Schiff "Beulah" von London nach Sydney, Winzer, mit Frau Ursula Hiltmann. Er arbeitete bei Yulgilbar am Fluss Clarence, spaeter in der Gegend von Armindale. Die Tochter Mary, geb. 1850, heiratete 1868 Abram Halloway. Aumueller Carl Johannisberg Australien 1849 Schafhirte, mit Schiff "Beulah" von London nach Sydney, 1859 naturalisiert, 28 Jahre, siedelte in Warialda, NSW, Er arbeitete bei A.A. Dangar in Yass. Dangar besuchte 1854 Deutschland, war u.a. auch in Eltville und Johannisberg. Auf seinem Weingut waren viele Deutsche beschaeftigt, die er wahrscheinlich auf seiner Deutschlandreise anwarb. Von ihm ist ein Tagebuch ueberliefert, wo er seine Deutschlandreise beschreibt. Badior Anton Joseph Martinsthal (Neudorf) Australien 26.09.1854 mit Familie; 1855 mit Schiff "Caesar" von Hamburg nach Sydney. Weinbauer, verheiratet mit Maria Eva Gehrig aus Neudorf. Eva starb 1890 in Waterloo (Sydney). Die beiden sind die Eltern von Heinrich Joseph Badior. . Badior Christian Eltville Australien 1849 mit Schiff "Beulah" von Hamburg nach Sydney, Weinbauer, war verheiratet mit Agnes Engelmann, Christian starb 1888 in Singleton, NSW. Badior Joseph Martinsthal (Neudorf) Australien 29.06.1854 mit Familie; 1855 mit Schiff "Caesar" von Hamburg nach Sydney. Weinbauer, verheiratet mit Elisabeth Olivia Sturm von Rauenthal, 2 Kinder, die auf der Ueberfahrt starben. Baer/Baehr Peter Joseph Frauenstein Australien 02.11.1854 ledig, mit Schiff "Caesar" 1855 von Hamburg nach Sydney, Schafhirte. . Balzer Sebastian Geisenheim Australien 04.12.1851 mit Schiff "San Francisco" von Hamburg nach Sydney, Weinbauer, mit Frau und 2 Kindern. Bambach Anton Eltville Australien 1849 mit Schiff "Parland" von London nach Sydney, Weinbauer, verheiratet mit Dorothea Sayer aus Kiedrich, Schwiegermutter Anna maria Sayer war mit an Bord, Anton wurde 1864 naturalisiert, er war 48 Jahre alt, sie siedelten in West Maitland, NSW, er starb 1894 in Paterson, NSW. Bambach Georg Joseph Eltville Australien 1849 mit Schiff "Parland" von London nach Sydney, Georg wurde 1858 naturalisiert, 29 Jahre alt, er siedelte in Allyn River, NSW, er starb 1904 in Clarence Town, NSW. Aus Herz. Nass. Intelligenzblatt vom 22. März 1851: "Georg Joseph Bambach, Sohn des Mathaeus Bambach und der Eva, geb. Holz, geboren den 22. November 1828 zu Eltville, wohnhaft daselbst" wurde, nachdem er sich der Aufforderung zum Militärdienst nicht gestellt hatte als "Ungehorsam hiermit bekannt gemacht". Bambach Michael Hallgarten Australien 13.01.1855 mit Frau und Kindern Bambach Sebastian Eltville Australien 11.11.1851 mit Familie; mit Schiff "San Francisco" von Hamburg nach Sydney, Weinbauer, mit Frau u. einem Kind, Ankunft 4.12.1851, Ehefrau Clara geb. Laubach aus Weisenau, sie starb 1869 in Paterson, NSW. K.-H. Schroeder Barbeler Adam Martinsthal (Neudorf) Australien 1849 mit Schiff "Parland" von London nach Sydney, mit Ehefrau Elisabeth Gehrig aus Neudorf, Adam starb 1858, 56 Jahre alt in Sydney, Elisabeth starb 1860 in Sydney. Barbeler Jacob Martinsthal (Neudorf) Australien 26.09.1854 mit Familie; 1855 mit Schiff "Cateaux Wattel" von Antwerpen nach Sydney, Weinbauer, mit Frau Maria Josepha geb. Beringer von Rauenthal, 5 Kinder, Jacob wurde 1860, 46 Jahre alt, naturalisiert. Die Familie siedelte am Cooks River, NSW, zog später nach Maryborough, QLD, Jacob starb 1886. Barth Caspar Ruedesheim Australien 07.04.1852 mit Familie; 1852 mit Schiff "Peter Godeffroy" von Hamburg nach Sydney, Weinbauer, verheiratet mit Anna Maria geb. Zotzenbach von Ruedesheim, 2 Kinder, Anna starb 1883 im Alter von 64 Jahren in Sydney. Barth Catharina Barbara Lorch Australien siehe Eschbach, Anton Barth Jacob Ruedesheim Australien 14.09.1854 Barth Joseph Eltville Australien 1849 mit Schiff "Parland" von London nach Sydney, Weinbauer, mit Ehefrau Catharina geb. Schneider von Hallgarten. Barth Michael Ruesdesheim Australien 1863 mit Schiff "La Rochelle" von Hamburg nach Moreton Bay, QLD. Barth Theresia Pressberg Australien 19.04.1855 ledig Basting Andreas Winkel Australien 14.04.1853 ledig; Mit Schiff "Wilhelmsberg" von Hamburg nach Melbourne, Bäcker, 25 Jahre alt, 1856, 30 Jahre alt, naturalisiert, er siedelte in King Street, Sydney Basting Catharina Winkel Australien siehe Weismantel, Richard Basting Elisabeth Erbach Australien siehe Berg, Anton (Schiff "Wilhelmsberg" 1855) Baumann Anna Maria Oberwalluf Australien siehe Arnold, Carl Joseph Baumann Christine Kiedrich Australien 18.01.1855 ledig; siehe Ettingshausen, Anton Baumann Elisabeth Niederwalluf Australien 20.10.1857 ledig, grossjaehrig; von Bremen nach Sydney oder Moreton Bay Baumann Joseph Kiedrich Australien 18.01.1855 mit Familie Bayer Karl Eltville Australien 13.09.1854 mit Familie Bechtel Wilhelm Eltville Australien 20.11.1851 mit Schiff "San Francisco" von Hamburg nach Sydney, mit Frau und 3 Kindern, Ankunft 4.12.1851; Weinbauer, Ehefrau Elisabeth geb. Bildesheim von Hallgarten, Tochter Madeline, geb. 1852 in Maitland, NSW, sie heiratete 1877 Joseph Becker in Newtown (Sydney) NSW. Becker Anton Geisenheim Australien 1855 mit Schiff "Daniel Ross" von Hamburg nach Sydney, Schafhirte . Becker Emilie u. Babette (Barbara) Ruedesheim Australien 09.03.1855 ledig; Mit Schiff "Wilhelmsberg" von Hamburg nach Sydney, Babette (Barbara) heiratete 1859 John Christlieb Fisher in Rylstone NSW, Emilie erscheint in den Schiffslisten als Frau des Peter Steinhauer. Kessler Jakob Eltville Australien 07.02.1855 ledig Kilian Anton Eltville Australie 27.10.1851 mit Frau Kilian Heinrich Geisenheim Australien 16.10.1852 Kilian Heinrich Geisenheim Australien 18.09.1854 mit Familie Kilian Wendelin, III. Geisenheim Australien 03.10.1854 mit Famil Kranz Kaspar Geisenheim Australien 23.04.1855 Kranz Simon Johannisberg Australien 17.04.1857 ledig, grossjaehrig Krass Johann Aulhausen Australien 12.10.1858 ledig, grossjaehrig Krass Thadaeus Ruedesheim Australien 16.03.1855 mit Familie S Kratz Frauenstein Wird bei Struck nur im Ortsregister erwaehnt, in der Namensuebersicht wird kein "Kratz" aus Frauenstein aufgefuehrt. Struck Cheers Michelle

    03/20/2002 01:11:51
    1. re: yesberg
    2. Beverly Markham
    3. Dear John, cannot reply to your note due to the digital signing.............technologically challenged! Do you have parents for Catherine Adelaide Yesberg? She was born 17 Oct 1899 but do not know where. she died 22 Jun 1984 in Woodford, just north of Brisbane. Do we have a connection here? cheers, Beverly.

    03/17/2002 11:59:46
    1. Lutheran School in Toowoomba
    2. Alan Phillips
    3. G'Day List The following is an excerpt from this web site: www.lca.org.au/schools/schools_pdfs/voicesacle02.pdf I have chosen to cut and paste because the site is a PDF and 14 pages which takes time to download. The website is titled: Keynote Paper Presented at The Australian Lutheran Conference on Education September 1999 and is the compilation of the history of Lutheran teachers in Australia told in a present day format. Langebecker is the only Darling Downs pastor featured. Regards Alan Langebecker: My name is Theodor Friedrich Langebecker. I was born in Prussia in 1845. I decided to become a missionary and studied at the Gossner Institute in Germany. As a young man aged twenty two, I accepted a call as pastor to the Lutherans in Toowoomba in Queensland. Outside of South Australia, the second state to which there was the most German migration in the nineteenth century was Queensland. There was active recruitment of Germans to that state by the government. They wanted them for indentured labour to build the roads, bridges and railways in their rapidly developing state, partly because they had the technical expertise, but mostly because they were considered to be good workers. When their period of service was over, there was plenty of land to select. By the 1850s large numbers of them were attracted to Toowoomba and the Darling Downs. With the exception of the Bethania settlement south of Brisbane, most Queensland Germans did not come from a strong Lutheran background, half of them not even Lutherans at all. The great father of Lutheranism in Queensland was Pastor Schirmeister, a former Lutheran missionary to the south seas, who travelled all over southern Queensland from his base in Brisbane, ministering to German communities and organising them into congregations. He did this in Toowoomba too,eight years before I came in 1867.When I arrived in my new parish, one of the greatest needs I found among the people was for a school. There were no state schools at that stage, only an Anglican one, as well as a college for young ladies. Local Lutherans did not have much access to those. One of the first things I did then was to start up a school in the church building at Phillip Street. I was the main teacher there for three years until we were able to procure the services of Wilhelm Guhr, also trained as a lay missionary in Germany, as our teacher for the next twenty years. The school taught in German and English, concentrating on literacy and numeracy and other academic disciplines,as well as imparting to the young, Lutheran doctrine and Bible knowledge. It met the needs of the local Lutheran people very well. Seven years after I arrived, I began to have trouble with my eyesight. I decided to go back to Germany in order to get medical attention. After that, I went to the United States where I spent seven and a half years as a pastor. In 1883 I returned to Toowoomba to find Teacher Guhr and his school prospering. In 1881, the St Paulís congregation had built a new church, and when I returned plans were being made for a separate school building and teacher ís residence as well. These were completed and opened in 1884. It was a great day for Lutheran education in Toowoomba. We had a big opening with a number of preachers and received wide press coverage. It gave me an opportunity to enunciate for the congregation and the community our reasons for having a Lutheran school. I stressed to the people how important it was for them to keep the German language alive among their children; German was the language of science, it had a rich literature, and with the great influx of German migrants to Queensland, it would continue to be a major local language,as evidenced by the fact that Toowoomba continued to have more than one German newspaper. There was commercial sense in maintaining the language as well. But, most important, German was the language of the Lutheran faith. If young people were to stay in the church they had to be able to use the language of Lutherís Bible and the liturgy. Not many years later, in the 1890s, however, the school began to wane. Teacher Guhr became a pastor in 1890 and moved on to a new parish. I carried on the school myself after he left but could only afford one day a week of teaching in my busy schedule. I did this for fifteen years to gradually declining numbers, and I had to give it up in 1905 when I became President of our church in Queensland. For a time Miss Kate Mengel took over as teacher, but gradually it became a Sunday School only, with most Lutherans attending the state schools which were now provided by the government.What happened in Toowoomba, also occurred all over Queensland and parts of New South Wales where similar schools had been in operation. By the onset of World War 1, even the Bethania people south of Brisbane had lost their school,although it lingered longest. One of the main reasons was the difficulty of finding suitable teachers. Ours was one of the strongest schools because we had Teacher Guhr for twenty years. Bethania managed to recruit some from the south. But there was no training programme in Queensland for Lutheran teachers, and many schools met their demise because there was no one suitable to teach in them. We Queenslanders also were more widely spread, and integrated with the local community more quickly, losing our cultural distinctiveness at a greater rate. There was also the problem that many of our people spoke Plattdeutsch, Low German dialect, rather than the Hochdeutsch, or High German, of the educated which made German schooling much more demanding for the children, and resulted in it not being reinforced in the home. But most of all, it was the easy availability of state schools which lured families away. Even those who wanted a religious grounding for their children thought that they could still gain this through a Sunday school programme rather than a Lutheran day school. By the time of my death in1909, unlike their southern counterparts, Lutheran schools in Queensland had virtually died as well.I found that there were many who would support a Lutheran school because there was no other alternative. Many, however, lacked the commitment to Christian schooling, which is at the centre of the church ís involvement in education. Lutheran schools have always tried to give a solid education for citizenship and vocation while providing a strong grounding in Christian faith and belief. Most people will say they want both, but they have their priorities. Where Christian nurture is not their greatest priority, we learned in Queensland that Lutheran Schools have a much greater fragility. In your day, Queensland Lutheran schools provide for as many students as the rest of the states put together. Most of these schools are young and tender plants which will need careful tendering if history is not to repeat itself. Never take your schools for granted. Make sure they have a ready supply of teachers. Nurture your families in the faith so that their commitment to Lutheran schooling is real and permanent. I, too, commit our Lutheran schools to your care.

    03/14/2002 03:59:46
    1. GEIGER
    2. Tom & Lorrae Johnson
    3. Hi Folks In my research of my Irish MADDEN family, one of my relatives married into the GEIGER family. They have already done a very good book, "GEIGER Family History 1813-1990" I do not have a copy - (would love one) but I know who has a copy and could do lookups over the following months. This is the family that it covers: Johann Adam GEIGER . +Mary Barbara KIRCHGESSNER ...... 6 Nikolaus GEIGER Born: 21 May 1847 Died: 14 May 1909 .......... +Jane SPOONER Born: Abt. 1846 Married: 5 March 1870 Ipswich, Qld, Aust ...... 6 Valentine GEIGER Born: 1850 Died: 1903 .......... +Wilhelmine BADKE Born: 1854 Married: 15 November 1876 Died: 1922 ...... 6 Henry Joseph GEIGER Born: 1856 ...... 6 John GEIGER Born: 1859 ...... 6 Anne GEIGER Born: 1862 Died: 2 June 1939 .......... +John GOAN Born: 1853 Ireland Married: 6 June 1888 Died: 9 May 1936 ...... 6 Sarah Louise GEIGER Born: 30 June 1863 Died: 19 August 1935 .......... +Matthew Michael RINGELSTEIN Born: 26 April 1869 Married: 24 May 1893 Died: 6 October 1919 ...... 6 George Henry GEIGER Born: 25 September 1864 Ipswich, Qld, Aust Died: 14 April 1950 Charleville, Qld, Aust .......... +Lizzie NEWTON Born: 12 July 1859 England Died: 17 July 1943 Adavale, Qld, Aust I have not included the children that died, and some of the spouses are not named on this above list. Lorrae Johnson

    03/14/2002 03:37:53
    1. Re: GEIGER
    2. Michelle Kranz
    3. Hi Lorrae , My mother married Steven John GEIGER. They lived at Boonah ,QLD. Steven pased away about 4 years ago. They had 2 children , my half Brother and Sister. Steven is descended from the first line you mentioned . Johann Adam GEIGER 24 Nov 1813 - 16 Feb 1898 · BIRTH: 24 Nov 1813, Werbach Baden Germany · DEATH: 16 Feb 1898 You can find more of this line at : http://www.northcuttfamily.com/htmlDenton/d0001/g0000092.html#I0822 Regards Michelle . At 10:37 14-3-2002 +1000, Tom & Lorrae Johnson wrote: >Hi Folks > >In my research of my Irish MADDEN family, one of my relatives married into >the GEIGER family. They have already done a very good book, >"GEIGER Family History 1813-1990" > >I do not have a copy - (would love one) but I know who has a copy and could >do lookups over the following months. > >This is the family that it covers: > >Johann Adam GEIGER >. +Mary Barbara KIRCHGESSNER >...... 6 Nikolaus GEIGER > Born: 21 May 1847 Died: 14 May 1909 >.......... +Jane SPOONER > Born: Abt. 1846 > Married: 5 March 1870 Ipswich, Qld, Aust >...... 6 Valentine GEIGER > Born: 1850 Died: 1903 >.......... +Wilhelmine BADKE > Born: 1854 Married: 15 November > 1876 Died: 1922 >...... 6 Henry Joseph GEIGER Born: 1856 >...... 6 John GEIGER Born: 1859 >...... 6 Anne GEIGER Born: 1862 Died: 2 June 1939 >.......... +John GOAN > Born: 1853 Ireland > Married: 6 June 1888 Died: 9 May 1936 >...... 6 Sarah Louise GEIGER > Born: 30 June 1863 Died: 19 August 1935 >.......... +Matthew Michael RINGELSTEIN > Born: 26 April 1869 > Married: 24 May 1893 Died: 6 October 1919 >...... 6 George Henry GEIGER > Born: 25 September 1864 Ipswich, Qld, Aust > Died: 14 April 1950 Charleville, Qld, Aust >.......... +Lizzie NEWTON > Born: 12 July 1859 England > Died: 17 July 1943 Adavale, Qld, Aust > >I have not included the children that died, and some of the spouses are not >named on this above list. > >Lorrae Johnson > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    03/14/2002 01:32:11
    1. rieth/reith/spletter/frank
    2. Andrew and Kathy Brehaut
    3. Dear All I am desperately trying to find information on the following families rieth/reith, spletter, frank. These families are my ancestors and all owned property around south east queensland specifically the Boonah, Woodhill, Mount Helen, Esk area I am having extreme trouble finding out any information in regards to these families. I particularly interested in Adam Reith/Rieth who migrated to Australia in around 1858, William Hiscock who married Bridgett Burk. Rudolf Fredrick Spletter and associated families. Anyone with any information on any of the above I would love to hear from. My email address akbrehaut@bigpond.com.au Regards Kathy Brehaut (nee Reith)

    03/13/2002 11:43:37
    1. Re: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D Digest V02 #55
    2. js4815
    3. I have not been able to read the last few e-mails when I down load the i get advicw tha OEhas removed unsafe attachments, but I get no other information, can you advise what is going on js4815@free2air.com.au

    03/13/2002 04:44:31
    1. Fwd: [SWINTON] Virus Alert from List Admin ( Update your AV software Now) ( march 11-2002)
    2. margaret mcnamara
    3. Another virus maybe coming our way. John A Hansen <jahansen@qwest.net> wrote: Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:51:44 -0800 From: "John A Hansen" Subject: [SWINTON] Virus Alert from List Admin ( Update your AV software Now) ( march 11-2002) To: SWINTON-L@rootsweb.com Reply-to: SWINTON-L@rootsweb.com Dear All: Here is the latest alert issued today. It's a Level Three Alert. Note that this worm looks like it's coming from Microsoft with instructions to install. One of the Security houses also found that a version of this could be executed without activating the attachment. So download your AV patches ASAP. If the virus can activate without execution of the attachment then the thought that you are protected by not executing attachments is false. Note that these virus are not being transmitted through Rootsweb but are coming from people that you know and have your address in their email program. Best Regards John A Hansen List Admin W32.Gibe@mm Discovered on: March 4, 2002 Last Updated on: March 11, 2002 at 07:17:27 AM PST Due to an increased rate of submissions Symantec Security Response has upgraded the threat rating of W32.Gibe@mm from Category 2 to Category 3 as of March 11, 2002. W32.Gibe@mm is a worm that uses Microsoft Outlook and its own SMTP engine to spread. This worm arrives in an email message--which is disguised as a Microsoft Internet Security Update--as the attachment Q216309.exe. Also Known As: W32/Gibe@mm, WORM_GIBE.A, W32/Gibe-A Type: Trojan Horse, Worm Infection Length: 122,880 bytes Virus Definitions (Intelligent Updater): March 5, 2002 Virus Definitions (LiveUpdateTM): March 6, 2002 Threat Assessment: Damage: Payload: Large scale e-mailing: Sends to addresses found in Microsoft Outlook Address book and by searching of .htm, .html, .asp, and .php files. Compromises security settings: Installs a Backdoor Trojan which allows remote access to the infected system Distribution: Subject of email: Internet Security Update Name of attachment: Q216309.exe Size of attachment: 122,880 bytes Ports: 12378 Technical description: The fake message, which is not from Microsoft, has the following characteristics: From: Microsoft Corporation Security Center Subject: Internet Security Update Message: Microsoft Customer, this is the latest version of security update, the update which eliminates all known security vulnerabilities affecting Internet Explorer and MS Outlook/Express as well as six new vulnerabilities . . . How to install Run attached file q216309.exe How to use You don't need to do anything after installing this item. . . . Attachment: Q216309.exe The attached file, Q216309.exe, is written in Visual Basic; it contains other worm components inside itself. When the attached file is executed, it does the following: It creates the following files: \Windows\Q216309.exe (122,880 bytes). This is the whole package containing the worm. \Windows\Vtnmsccd.dll (122,880 bytes). This file is the same as Q216309.exe. \Windows\BcTool.exe (32,768 bytes). This is the worm component that spreads using Microsoft Outlook and SMTP. \Windows\GfxAcc.exe (20,480 bytes). This is the Backdoor Trojan component of the worm that opens port 12378. \Windows\02_N803.dat (size varies). This is the data file that the worm creates to store email addresses that it finds. \Windows\WinNetw.exe (20,480 bytes). This is the component that searches for email addresses and writes them to 02_N803.dat. NOTE: Norton AntiVirus detects all of these files as W32.Gibe@mm except the 02_N803.dat. file, which contains only data. Finally, BcTool.exe attempts to send the \Windows\Q216309.exe file to email addresses in the Microsoft Outlook address book, and to addresses that it found in .htm, .html, .asp, and .php files and wrote to the 02_N803.dat file. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email!

    03/12/2002 05:25:17
    1. Gatton Festival
    2. Wendy Thomas
    3. Hi Lorrae, It sounds a great idea. However would it be appropriate to have information about my MULLER family who (as far as I know) didn't live in Gatton? Three branches lived in Laidley, Ipswich and Boonah. I don't know where the other two branches lived. If it is appropriate, what, how much, information would you like? Sorry that I can't attend. We live in Townsville. Cheerio, Wendy

    03/12/2002 03:17:48
    1. Gatton Festival
    2. Tom & Lorrae Johnson
    3. Hi Folks Last year, we attended the Gatton Heritage Festival on the May Day long weekend and several of us manned a stall about our list group and I had several printouts of the research others were undertaking. It was a great day and we had several queries and lots of conversation. As last year was so successful, they are keeping the German theme this year. We have again been approached to 'man' a stall at this years Festival - 4 and/or 5 May at the Gatton Historical Village. DO we wish to attend again, is anyone else wanting to attend with me? Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich

    03/11/2002 01:42:57
    1. Old Papers--20 Apr 1928--Country news
    2. Bev Edmonds
    3. Taken from The Brisbane Courier, Friday, 20th April, 1928 Country News Boonah Farewell Gathering:- A large number of church people assembled in the Methodist Church to say farewell to the Rev. and Mrs. T. HOF, prior to their departure to Ithaca. Mr. L.A. WISS [senior circut steward] presided. The Rev. G.E. EASTER [Church of England], Rev. A . ASBOE [Presbyterian], Mr. H.NIELSEN [Baptist], and Captain LIDDELL [Salvation Army] expressed regret at the departure of the Rev. Mr. HOF. Mr. W. ALCORN spoke on behalf of the local preaches, and Mr. H. ABELL on behalf of the orchestra. An enjoyable musical programme was rendered, including items by the choir. A violin solo by Mr. W. FAULKNER, and solos by Miss B. PRATT, Miss E. BRUCKNER, and Mr. D. PRATT. On behalf of the church Mr. L.A. WISS presented Mr. HOF with a wallet of notes, and Miss I. BRUCKNER on behalf of the Ladies Church Help Society, presented to Mrs. HOF a salad bowl. After service on Sunday night Mr. HOF was presented with a framed picture of the Milford Methodist Church, and Mrs. HOF was presented with exylonite mirror and brushes from the Ladies Church Guild. Baptist Church:-- Prize giving and a programme by the children was held at the Boonah Baptist Church on 5th April, when the opportunity was taken to make presentations to Mr. H. NIELSON and Mr. B.J. HUTH, in appreciation of their services to the church. The presentations were made by Mr. J. SCHNEIDER. Reference was made to Mr. H. NEILSEN'S 16 years faithful service as preacher at the church, and to Mr. H. HUTH for coming over from Kulgen once a month to conduct service. Songs and recitations were given by the children, a solo by Mr. H. NEILSEN, and a recitation by Mrs. B.J. HUTH. Refreshments were served by the ladies. Cheers Bev Ah! the good old send off's, I can still remember them at the school and the old barn dances that were held frequently. Every new barn had to be christened by a dance, in our part of the woods anyway.

    03/09/2002 08:24:21
    1. Re: German Death Certificate
    2. Eric Kopittke
    3. Juanita Ryan wrote:- > > Can someone tell me how I can order a death certificate of my GGgrandfather. He died in 1931 and is buried in Lutherstadt Wittenberg. I have a photo of the cemetary plot and the newspaper clipping of his funeral details. You would need to contact the Standesamt in Lutherstadt Wittenberg. The Standesamt is the civil registry office. Eric Kopittke Brisbane

    03/09/2002 02:28:40
    1. Wilhelmine GESSLER
    2. Wendy Thomas
    3. Hullo Lorrae, Thank you for your information. I have this information: Ethel Mary GESSLER b. 1900 her parents were Bertha Elizabeth WISSEMANN and Wilhelm Friedrich GESSLER. Magdalene GESSLER b. 1905 her parents were Bertha Elizabeth WISSEMANN and Wilhelm Friedrich GESSLER. Frederick GESSLER b. 1902 Anna Augusta Helene BEUTEL and Gustoff Hermann GESSLER. I have no other information about them, so I would appreciate it if you could look up the SEMPF book for me. Wilhelm Friedrich GESSLER and Gustoff Hermann GESSLER were brothers. Their parents were Wilhelm GESSLER and Ernestina Wilhelmina Karolin MULLER. Thank you again, Wendy

    03/08/2002 05:39:59
    1. RE: Wilhelmine GESSLER
    2. Tom & Lorrae Johnson
    3. Hi Wendy Three GESLERs married into the SEMPF family (extracts from the SEMPF family book) Ethel GESLER married August GOSCHNICK (son of Bertha Marie Sempf and Heinrich Goschnick) Magdeleen GESLER married Christian GOSCHNICK (son of Bertha Marie Sempf and Heinrich Goschnick) Friedrich GESLER married Louise Eda SEMPF I could look up the SEMPF book if more is required. Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich -----Original Message----- From: Bev Edmonds [mailto:beve@c-link.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2002 6:31 AM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Wilhelmine GESSLER Talking of GESLER/GESSLER, Just had a look at my files and I have these that I didn't see with regards to the GIERKE name posted last week. Louis Christian Ludwig GESLER and Annie Elizabeth SCHULTZ, two of their sons Leslie Thomas and William Leonard married GIERKE girls. If your interested please e-mail me privately. Cheers Bev -----Original Message----- From: Wendy Thomas <wendythomas@austarnet.com.au> To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, 5 March 2002 12:36 Subject: Wilhelmine GESSLER >Hullo Phyllis, > >I have Johanna Wilhelmine GESSLER born 1896, the daughter of Wilhelmina >OPPERMAN and Johannes Friedrich GESSLER in my family tree. > However I haven't any details about who she married, so wondered if it >could be the Wilhelmine GESSLER you mentioned. >I can supply more information about how she is linked to me. >Cheers, >Wendy > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ______________________________

    03/07/2002 04:11:41
    1. RE: To the Editor - Pioneers in the Family
    2. Tom & Lorrae Johnson
    3. Hi Faye This makes interesting reading too. My ancestors arrived in May 1842 on the "JOHN BREWER". Thomas McGUIRE was a 'red coat' soldier of the 99th Regiment, and he was accompanied by his wife, Mary MELIA. He purchased his discharge for 20 pounds in 1844 and became a mounted policeman. In 1852, he is listed as an ordinary Constable who could read, ride and write. (a great accomplishment in those days). Apparently, the 'police' were notorious for their drinking problem - (would love to see more articles on this era) Thomas died - north of Pine River - en route to Durandur Station (near Woodford) to execute a warrant. The inquest found that he had been burnt to death while inebriated. Nothing more than this could be established. He was buried in a lone grave where he met his death, on the road between present day Wamuran and Woodford. (NSW Archives - Record book of inquests reads - 14 Feb 1853 - 71 19 23 Brisbane 13 Jan 1853, Accidentally burned (intoxicated).) It is always interesting to learn of the early settlers, and to know what the situation they met when they arrived. Lorrae -----Original Message----- From: Faye Calvert [mailto:fayesmobile@dingoblue.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2002 12:33 PM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: To the Editor - Pioneers in the Family Hi List No date of this one but it must be early 1959 judging by the first letter. Her Grandparents Came To Brisbane in 1842 Your article "Puzzled over our Pioneers" (C.-M., 26/1/59) is the first intimation that most people have had on this matter. My mother was born in Brisbane 102 years ago this month. Their home was in George Street. My mother's father (HENRY CHAMBERS) built the first bridge (not suspension) across the Brisbane River at Indooroopilly. This fact was verified in The Courier Mail about 50 years back in a column "Fifty Years Ago." My grandfather and grandmother came to Brisbane about 1842. On my grandmother's death certificate (1866) the Registrar was WILLIAM T. BLAKENEY, the minister was the REV. W. J. K. PIDDINGTON, two other witnesses were F. MURRAY AND ALEX. SIMPSON. Early Names Some of the names my mother spoke of were DR. BANCROFT, the TRUNDLES, PETRIES, BENNETTS (one was later Commissioner for Lands), MISS BALLANTYNE, MISS BERRY, and the AIRD family. One of the AIRDS was married to a Captain SCHWABE. During the second World War I met the daughter and granddaughter of JOHN AIRD. There was also a chemist whose name I have forgotten. We met his daughter at once time. She was MRS. F. C. EMMOTT. The descendants of these settlers should have a "get-together." - (MRS.) I. FRAIL. 5 Months at sea in 1856 It was always understood that the people who came to Australia 100 or more years ago were the Pioneers. I would like to include MR. and MRS. CHARLES RANDLE, of Eagle Farm, who migrated from Somerset, England, in 1856, with their family per the sailing ship Parsee, arriving in Brisbane in January 1857. Stately home The voyage lasted five months, and one son was born to them before arrival on December 12, 1856. They were prominent people in Brisbane in the early days. The eldest son, MR. LOT RANDLE, had two retail boot and shoe shops in Queen Street and one in the Valley, and his home on Gregory Terrace was written up in The Courier as one of the stately homes of Brisbane. He owned and sold to the Government of the day the ground where the Valley railway station is. The second son, MR. GILES RANDLE, was one of the first pioneers of the sugar industry in Queensland, having built his own mill and produced good sugar at Sugar Mill Road, Eagle Farm. Brisbane cane Sugar cane was grown all round the district, even as far out as Ashgrove, and floated down the Brisbane River on rafts, to be crushed at Randle's mill. The eldest surviving descendant is MR. LOT RANDLE, third son of MR. and MRS. GILES RANDLE. He lives at Seventh Avenue, Sandgate, and is 86 years of age. There are other descendants of MR. and MRS. CHARLES RANDLE also in the 80 years of age group. - (MRS.) M. PLAIN (only surviving daughter of MR. and MRS. GILES RANDLE) Regards Faye Queensland Australia ______________________________

    03/07/2002 04:11:37
    1. German Death Certificate
    2. Can someone tell me how I can order a death certificate of my GGgrandfather. He died in 1931 and is buried in Lutherstadt Wittenberg. I have a photo of the cemetary plot and the newspaper clipping of his funeral details. If anybody has some good advice it would be gratefully accepted. Juanita Ryan Researching Boos, Herse/Hesse, Winkler

    03/07/2002 02:13:21