hi have that Bethania book, it is a real good one, Hi my name is Daniel, yes the young lad (19) that is into his Family tree. Any info might help, as i have lost family down in Wellington, Blayney and Bathurst. this name is on my number 1 agender of tracking down. # Robert Thadeus Ryan. I am a decendent, he is the most wanted man at the moment in my research. next is: # The ship Name that my Falkenhagen family came out on, that settled in a Town called Bethania. Any HELP! would be great, tah. Contact me for a chat if you like, or mail. Daniel Ryan. Aussiemale19@hotmail.com 46 Mellifont St Banyo, Brisbane, Qld 4014

Thank you Daphne That is the family - 15 children and different spelling of the parents christian names throw me for a loop. I was therefore correct in merging the family. Thank you again (PS - I cut the reply to shorten the length of this email) Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich -----Original Message----- From: Daph Heiner [mailto:dheiner@tpgi.com.au] Sent: Monday, 27 May 2002 11:27 AM To: taj@uq.net.au Subject: Re: Peters and Strohfeldt Hi Lorrae, Is this the family you're looking for? It's the only one I can find with similarities to your request. Hope it helps. Wilhelm Carl Friedrich PETERS, b. 10-Dec-1839 He married Friederike Wilhelmine STROHFELDT, (daughter of Johann Gottfried STROHFELDT and Wilhelmine Christine Luise ZILLMAN) I. Emilie Marie Auguste PETERS, b. 18-Mar-1868 II. Anna Marie PETERS, b. 13-Aug-1870 III. Carl Friedrich Wilhelm PETERS, b. 25-Feb-1872 IV. Wilhelmine Friederike PETERS, b. 16-Oct-1874 V. Paul Otto PETERS, b. 25-Apr-1875 VI. Auguste Louise Maria PETERS, b. 4-Dec-1876 VII. Frederich Wilhelm PETERS, b. 8-Feb-1879 VIII. Helene Emilie PETERS, b. 25-Sep-1880 IX. Franz Max PETERS, b. 3-Nov-1881 X. Gustav Adolf PETERS, b. 30-Oct-1882 XI. Auguste Marie PETERS, b. 14-Jun-1887 XII. Maria Auguste PETERS, b. 21-May-1889 XIII. Carl Frederick PETERS, b. 7-Jul-1892 XIV. Max Franz PETERS, b. 25-Aug-1894 Tom & Lorrae Johnson wrote: > Hi List, > I incorrectly merged two families and now I do not think they are correct. > (Sometimes paper and pencil are so much better) (:-(( > > May I please ask those researching these two families to advise the names of > the children please? > > Carl Frederick Wilhelm Peters and his wife - Strohfeldt> > > >From the CD of Qld BDM, I know Carl Frederick Wilhelm (Wilhelm Carl > Frederick) PETERS and Auguste Wilhelmine Strohfeldt had two children in 1875 > and 1876. Did they have other children too? Who is Fredericke Wilhelmine > STROHFELDT and who did she marry? These are the families I merged. > > Is Wilhelm PETERS who married Wilhelmine STROHFELDT the same as the Carl > Frederick Wilhelm PETERS who married Auguste Wilhelmine STROHFELDT? > > I was referring to page 260 of the Ipswich & District Pioneer Register Pre > 1914, Vol 2, where there was three PETERS marrying into the TILLACK family > and I was linking and referencing when I merged the two Wilhelmine > STROHFELDT... more care, less haste does a better job. > > Thank you > > Lorrae Johnson > Plainland Qld 4341 > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

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Take a look at the RYAN site. http://www.spiderweb.com.au/~eryan Marg McN Daniel Ryan <Aussiemale19@hotmail.com> wrote: hi have that Bethania book, it is a real good one, Hi my name is Daniel, yes the young lad (19) that is into his Family tree. Any info might help, as i have lost family down in Wellington, Blayney and Bathurst. this name is on my number 1 agender of tracking down. # Robert Thadeus Ryan. I am a decendent, he is the most wanted man at the moment in my research. next is: # The ship Name that my Falkenhagen family came out on, that settled in a Town called Bethania. Any HELP! would be great, tah. Contact me for a chat if you like, or mail. Daniel Ryan. Aussiemale19@hotmail.com 46 Mellifont St Banyo, Brisbane, Qld 4014 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup

Hi Bryan I have a few rellies for you, but not descendants of Michael - sorry. William WHOULEY born Co Cork, Ireland married Mary BOWEN Their son ~ Denis WHOULEY born 1840 Ireland married 07.11.1865 Anne RYAN born 1842 Ireland Children ~ John born 06.08.1864 William born 04.08.1866 Mary Ann born 27.12.1868 Anne born 25.09.1871 Joseph 16.10.1872 Michael born 12.11.1873 James Francis born 17.02.1875 David born 06.08.1876 Bridget Agnes born 06.10.1878 Helena born 05.03.1880 Annie Theresa born 05.04.1887 Mary Ann married Charles Henry Patrick BEESTON and they had 9 children of which I am aware. This is the line from which Carmel Ann KERLIN (nee KENT) 'emerged'. This lady is married to David's cousin Trevor KERLIN. In the time between the WHOULEYs and the KENTs, we have the BEESTONs, RYANs, HEALYs and FLANAGANs etc. Cheers Bev > Hi Bev, > I have come across the WHOULEY name in my wife's ancestry. Her grandmother's > sister (Sarah Alice CRAMPTON) married Michael Henry (Dick) WHOULEY 1895. He > was born 1873. I would like to track down all their descendants. Some lived > in Victoria, but have no names for this group. They were the offspring of > Florence WHOULEY, who eventually married a Peter BURCHILL, we believe, at > Echuca. > Could you pass on your interest in this mob, please? > > Bryan Martin > brylil@froggy.com.au > Researching: MARTIN, TILSE, RAUCHLE, FERMOR > TAYLOR ,NAYLOR, REID, WHITELEY > AUSTIN, BEEBY, CRAMPTON, WROE, > DOBBRICK, SCHIBROWSKI, PIOCH, KOPP.

Hi Di Not researching your family but in the Bethania book this family appears, and arrived in Moreton Bay aboard Susanne Godeffroy on 23 January 1864. They came from Breitenstein Neumark and Wilhelm was a Labourer (arbeitsmann): LENZ Wilhelm 38 Christine 40 Wilhelmine 13 August 11 Emilie 8 Hermann 2 (died at Sea) Wilhelm 2 mths Cheers Bev (Your mail comes back to you by default, when you send to a Mailing List, Di) > Is anyone else on the list researching the descendants of Frederick Augustus LENZ and Magdalena BOLLING from Germany? They are my G grandparents. Frederick "Augustus" LENZ arrived with his parents Frederick Wilhelm LENZ and Ernestina (nee KRUGER) LENZ on "Susanne Goodfrey"s 1864 journey (17th January 1864). Magdalena BOLLING arrived on "La Rochelle"s journey of 1865/1866 with her parents Jacob BOLLING and Matilda/Tercha WILLROCK/WILFROCK. My Grandmother's maiden name was Agnes LENZ. > Dianne Randell. > Brisbane

Hi List, I incorrectly merged two families and now I do not think they are correct. (Sometimes paper and pencil are so much better) (:-(( May I please ask those researching these two families to advise the names of the children please? Carl Frederick Wilhelm Peters and his wife - Strohfeldt> From the CD of Qld BDM, I know Carl Frederick Wilhelm (Wilhelm Carl Frederick) PETERS and Auguste Wilhelmine Strohfeldt had two children in 1875 and 1876. Did they have other children too? Who is Fredericke Wilhelmine STROHFELDT and who did she marry? These are the families I merged. Is Wilhelm PETERS who married Wilhelmine STROHFELDT the same as the Carl Frederick Wilhelm PETERS who married Auguste Wilhelmine STROHFELDT? I was referring to page 260 of the Ipswich & District Pioneer Register Pre 1914, Vol 2, where there was three PETERS marrying into the TILLACK family and I was linking and referencing when I merged the two Wilhelmine STROHFELDT... more care, less haste does a better job. Thank you Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich

Why does this posting keep being returned to ME? 6.03 pm Sunday > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Di Randell" <dirandell@optusnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 5:15 PM > Subject: Fw: LENZ/LENTZ Frederick Augustus & BOLLING, Magdalena > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Di Randell > > To: AUS-QLD-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 4:16 PM > > Subject: LENZ/LENTZ Frederick Augustus & BOLLING, Magdalena > > > > > > Is anyone else on the list researching the descendants of Frederick > Augustus LENZ and Magdalena BOLLING from Germany? They are my G > grandparents. Frederick "Augustus" LENZ arrived with his parents Frederick > Wilhelm LENZ and Ernestina (nee KRUGER) LENZ on "Susanne Goodfrey"s 1864 > journey (17th January 1864). Magdalena BOLLING arrived on "La Rochelle"s > journey of 1865/1866 with her parents Jacob BOLLING and Matilda/Tercha > WILLROCK/WILFROCK. My Grandmother's maiden name was Agnes LENZ. > > Dianne Randell. > > Brisbane > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi All, Just wondering if anyone can answer this question for me. In a newspaper report of the arrival of a German immigrant ship into Brisbane it was said of the immigrants, "They are all under engagements and having passed the Immigration Board, are being rapidly drafted off to their employers". Is there any resources anywhere which would tell me where particular immigrants were sent to? I feel this is one way I could prove if the people I found on this particular ship are the family I'm looking for. The Ship was the Grasbrook which came into Brisbane in 1855. The family is Johan & Caroline Schmidt. I know that in 1855/56 they were living at Helidon near Gatton. Thanks and regards, Valerie.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Di Randell" <dirandell@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 5:15 PM Subject: Fw: LENZ/LENTZ Frederick Augustus & BOLLING, Magdalena > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Di Randell > To: AUS-QLD-L-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 4:16 PM > Subject: LENZ/LENTZ Frederick Augustus & BOLLING, Magdalena > > > Is anyone else on the list researching the descendants of Frederick Augustus LENZ and Magdalena BOLLING from Germany? They are my G grandparents. Frederick "Augustus" LENZ arrived with his parents Frederick Wilhelm LENZ and Ernestina (nee KRUGER) LENZ on "Susanne Goodfrey"s 1864 journey (17th January 1864). Magdalena BOLLING arrived on "La Rochelle"s journey of 1865/1866 with her parents Jacob BOLLING and Matilda/Tercha WILLROCK/WILFROCK. My Grandmother's maiden name was Agnes LENZ. > Dianne Randell. > Brisbane > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

----- Original Message ----- From: Di Randell To: AUS-QLD-L-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 4:16 PM Subject: LENZ/LENTZ Frederick Augustus & BOLLING, Magdalena Is anyone else on the list researching the descendants of Frederick Augustus LENZ and Magdalena BOLLING from Germany? They are my G grandparents. Frederick "Augustus" LENZ arrived with his parents Frederick Wilhelm LENZ and Ernestina (nee KRUGER) LENZ on "Susanne Goodfrey"s 1864 journey (17th January 1864). Magdalena BOLLING arrived on "La Rochelle"s journey of 1865/1866 with her parents Jacob BOLLING and Matilda/Tercha WILLROCK/WILFROCK. My Grandmother's maiden name was Agnes LENZ. Dianne Randell. Brisbane

Hello All Those of you who are on both the Irish and German Lists will be cross-posted. Sorry, it's too difficult to split this up and it's long too! This I should know and I am aware of many reasons, but the situation repeatedly occurs - why did so many folk move from Bethania to Lockyer Valley? Is there a book on this? **A young fellow, who also has spoken with our Russell, has asked for a little help with his FALKENHAGENs and RYANs from Bethania. In my database, I have FALKENHAGENs marrying TOPP, STUMER, THEDIECKE, NESTER, DAVIS, mostly in the Valley. David's first cousin is married to a KENT, who is a direct descendant of the FLANAGANs and ROSNEYs/ROSSNEYs and there are HEALY, RYAN, BEESTON, WHOULEY etc in that lot. These FLANAGANs also spread to the Valley. Another coincidence for you - a flower-girl at our wedding in 1960 is the eldest daughter of a long time friend - Jim JESSOP who is a descendant of the Valley FLANAGANs and Lord knows who else (I'm scared to go there!!). We only discovered this about 2 years ago. In 1878, three of the GIESEMANN children were enrolled in the Mt Gravatt State School. August was a shopkeeper at that time. The were later enrolled in 1880 at Hatton Vale State School where August was the Secretary of the Provisional School Committee. His second selection of land at Grandchester had neighbours each side related to Les Moreland - or was that Russell? Either way, I think both of these gentlemen had ancestors in Bethania and the Valley. By the mid 1890s, James KERLIN (the 3rd at least) and wife Susan LANCASTER, had moved, followed by Grandfather William John KERLIN. Together with William's twin Moses, these firstly went to Bethania, then South Brisbane where they had at least one shop in Stanley Street which was flooded in 1893, and then the Valley. Moses went back to Waterford in due course. **Can anyone help me to help Daniel please? Any other help on this convoluted mess would be gratefully received. (Not only that, it should wake a few sleepy heads, eh?) Cheers Bev

Hi All Peter asked if I could post the answer to the query I had regarding the letters Sa with an umlaut over the a instead of an age the the shipping lists. All the answers I received told me Sa meant that it was a young baby still being breastfed by its mother. Regards, Valerie Kronk Also in sunny Qld

Hi all, A big thanks to all who replied and answered my query regarding tha above. I have replied to all privately but if I have missed anyone I apologise and thank you for helping me in my research. Regards, Valerie Kronk.

Hi All, Am wondering if someone may be able to answer my question. The ship Grasbrook arrived in Brisbane in September 1855 has a listing for a family, (passenger no's 108 109 110 and 111). One of the people, Caroline Louise Schmidt (passenger no. 110) instead of having an age given for her has instead the letters Sa with an umlaut over the a. Could anyone tell me what this would mean. There is one other passenger on this ship who also has these letters instead of an age. Would love to hear from anyone who can answer this for me. Regards, Valerie Kronk.

Posting my STUMPF line. Regards Judy *Johann Ferdinand STUMP marr Eva Marie BURR Children: *Karl Phillip b 6 Feb 1791 *Karl Phillip STUMP b 6 Feb 1791 marr Christine Barbara MAY(b to Adam MAY & Maria Regina Sybilia) Children: 1. Jacobina Margaretha b 7 July 1820; d 22 July 1820 2. Katharina b 4 June 1821 3. Maria Sophia b 27 March 1823; d 20 April 1824 4. *Carl August Friedrick b 12 June 1825 5. Regina Barbara b 13 Nov 1827 6. Maria Christina b 20 April 1831 7. Maria Elizabetha b 24 July 1835 8. Ferdinand Friedrick b 28 Jan 1839; d 3 Feb 1839 *Carl August Friedrick STUMPF b 31 June 1825, Bobstadt, BAD-WUE, GER (son of Carl P. STUMPF and Christine Barbara MAY) married in Brisbane, Australia in 1857 to Anna Maria HAEFLICH (b HESSE, Ger; d 1902) d 1898 Children: 1. unnamed male b 1861 Mandinyah Qld, AUS 2. Adam b 7 July 1862 Mandinyah, Qld; d 17 June 1863 Ipswich Qld AUS 3. Christina Elizabeth b 2 March 1866, marr 27 April 1882 Archibald Haswell AIRD, d 21 Feb 1949 Woombye 4. John Frederick b 9 June 1867 Qld; d 14 March 1892 (accident) Woombye Qld 5. *Mary b 6 March 1871, Mellum Creek, Landsborough; marr 2 Aug 1890, Richard Amos GEE; d 6 Jan 1900 Woombye, Qld 6. Regina b 3 Feb 1873, marr abt 1894 Henry August Detleff KUSKOPF; d 21 May 1960 Nambour

Hi, I was wondering if there is anyone with access to the dern index who could do a lookup for me? Thank you Coral

Hi listers I'm new to the list and I am posting my interest. I am researching the VIERTEL family. 3 brothers Julius Hermann VIERTEL - married Henrietta Louisa DUNN Ernst Richard VIERTEL - married Wilhelmina HUEBNER Franz Ferdinand VIERTEL - married Elizabeth DUNN They all arrived in Australia from Sachsen in 1879 on the Fritz Reuter. Franz established a bootmaking business in Marburg around the turn of the century and his wife Elizabeth ran a general store on the same premises. Would be interested in hearing from anyone with any connections or knowledge of this family Mari UK

Hello All Would someone please be able to look up a passenger list for the ship MELPOMENE which sailed from Plymouth England on 14.10.1882, arriving in Rockhampton Qld. Australia on the 20.01.1883 or 30.01.1883. The family I am seeking is COOMBES and all I know is that there was a son Charles COOMBES born at sea in 1883. Is anyone researching the family of COOMBES, that may be able to help. Thank you Jenny

Hi Bev, I missed previous emails on this topic, but I have the book done for the Tallegalla centenary, and also Frank Snars book " German Settlement in the Rosewood Scrub". I am interested in any books on the area as my maternal side all come from that pocket. Thanks Kerry Muller Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Kerlin" <kerlindavidbev@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:48 AM Subject: Laidley South School etc > Hi again > > Many thanks Gillie and my dear friend Cathy (you are yet to let me down > Cathy!). > > The Ipswich Gens didn't have that school book for sale - don't think I saw > it there either. A friend has the 'They lived in the Lockyer' on loan from > the Toowoomba Library and I'm hoping our local library can get it by > inter-library loan when she has finished. I can't see us getting to > Brisbane in the near future, let alone to the Valley!! > > I'll see if I can find Mrs Kraatz's address Gillie, thanks for that. I > wouldn't mind the Tallegalla book either! > > Cheers > Bev > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >