Dear Lorrae Thank you for your 5 messages and attached information. While I have not yet had time to have a look through them, I wish to first reply to your second paragraph. The website has not been "flashed worldwide" as you state. It is NOT LISTED in any search engines, the url is not listed on any other website, and in less than a weeks time it WILL NO LONGER EXIST. The only place it has been documented or advertised is in the rootsweb mailing list, for the express purpose of inviting interested people to add to or access genealogy records, which I believe is the whole purpose of this mailing list. I accept that many people do not wish to have their details made public, and while I may not agree with it, other websites that I have had in the past and will have in the future DO NOT SHOW DETAILS of living individuals. In this specific instance I believe that I am justified in showing these details for the reasons previously mentioned - that access is targeted to specific interested people and that it is short-term. I do not intend or wish to cause offence to you or anyone else, I only wish to explain my actions, and will be happy to continue this discussion off-list if you so desire. Don Gough Brisbane, Australia Tom & Lorrae Johnson wrote: > Hi Don > I think it is great - certainly got some details of families. I have yet to > check it all out but you touch on some of my families, such as the DIETEs. > > However, certainly glad I am not related to you to have my details flashed > worldwide. > > I will let you know (off list) details of the families that are related to > me. > > Lorrae Johnson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Gough [mailto:dongough@ozemail.com.au] > Sent: Friday, 19 July 2002 10:21 AM > To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Temporary website > > Hi all > > In an effort to share my data, I have created this temporary website > http://www.dongough.com/family/temp/html/famnames.html > where you can view all my files. > > The site, which does not have details of living persons removed, will > remain active for about two weeks, after which time I will remove all > details of living persons and move it to a new permament url. > > The main families covered are > BADKE BRAIDWOOD BRUNNER DAVIES DORMAN FLEGLER GUYER > HOEY HONOR HUMPHREY KELLETT KRONK MULLER MURR OBST > PITMAN POSTLE PROSSER RAABE REITHMULLER SAAL SEANIGER > SIGSTON SINCLAIR SINTON SQUIRES TEDFORD > and many of the early families (incl. german) around the Darling Downs > and SE Qld. > > Please do not hesitate to contact me if you would like gedcoms or > descendant/ancestor reports for any of the listed people. > > Any additional information that you can supply on these families would > be very much appreciated. > > Kind regards & have a nice day > Don Gough > Brisbane, Australia > > ______________________________

Carol, There are many books in the series "Emigrants from Hamburg to Australian Ports". I have records for about 310 MÜLLERs on my list of emigrants. Three of these are listed as Friedrich, but quite a few others are listed as Fritz or Fr or ... Have you any details that would narrow down the search? Grüßen Eric Kopittke > From: "carol pratt" <carolp@iprimus.com.au> > > I am looking for the arrival of:- > > Frederick MILLER/MULLER from Germany before his marriage in 1865 to Ann Daniels > > If SKS soul has the Eric Kopittike's book on > passengers from Hamburg...I would really appreciate just this one look up. > > ......it doesn't seem to be at my local genie library and I am some weeks away from a trip to Melb library. > > Thanks > > Cheers > > Carol > Melbourne > > ______________________________

Hi List, Does anyone know how I can find out if someone was in the AIF during WW1. Family legend has it he was, but no proof. Regards, Patricia.

Hi Don I think it is great - certainly got some details of families. I have yet to check it all out but you touch on some of my families, such as the DIETEs. However, certainly glad I am not related to you to have my details flashed worldwide. I will let you know (off list) details of the families that are related to me. Lorrae Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Don Gough [mailto:dongough@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Friday, 19 July 2002 10:21 AM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Temporary website Hi all In an effort to share my data, I have created this temporary website http://www.dongough.com/family/temp/html/famnames.html where you can view all my files. The site, which does not have details of living persons removed, will remain active for about two weeks, after which time I will remove all details of living persons and move it to a new permament url. The main families covered are BADKE BRAIDWOOD BRUNNER DAVIES DORMAN FLEGLER GUYER HOEY HONOR HUMPHREY KELLETT KRONK MULLER MURR OBST PITMAN POSTLE PROSSER RAABE REITHMULLER SAAL SEANIGER SIGSTON SINCLAIR SINTON SQUIRES TEDFORD and many of the early families (incl. german) around the Darling Downs and SE Qld. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you would like gedcoms or descendant/ancestor reports for any of the listed people. Any additional information that you can supply on these families would be very much appreciated. Kind regards & have a nice day Don Gough Brisbane, Australia ______________________________

Hi List, Is anyone able to help me with information on the descendants of John Henry ANDERSON and Christina HEUSCHELE married 1885. I have some information, but lots of gaps. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Daph

Dear Listers Being motivated I have just included a listing of the Books published dealing with History of the Mackay and Pioneer Valley area. Please note I have only started so it is not comprehensive but will give you an idea of what has been published and contains details of Local History , Families Etc. I have endeavoured to include a paragraph on each book giving a general overview and a picture of the cover in case you are looking for it. I will endeavour to update this list on a regular basis as I scan more covers and obtain more books etc.....Most are available through the Mackay City Library so if you live in Queensland you may be able to get them through the interlibrary loans... Dont email me about purchasing me as I am not a bookseller or have the time but see your local booksellers with the details like ISBN and if it is available im sure they could get it in for you....Some of the older ones are no longer in print but I myself have picked some up going through second hand bookstores and antique book stores ("They called me Artie" was located in the antique bookstore in Charlotte Street, Brisbane) To access the list click on http://www.geocities.com/ghh_mackay/research/research.html and follow the link Cheers from Glen from Pleystowe in sunny North Queensland, Australia Latitude 21� 8' 60S Longitude 149� 1' 60E http://www.geocities.com/hallybum/index.html Contact me on ICQ # 101870644

Hi all In an effort to share my data, I have created this temporary website http://www.dongough.com/family/temp/html/famnames.html where you can view all my files. The site, which does not have details of living persons removed, will remain active for about two weeks, after which time I will remove all details of living persons and move it to a new permament url. The main families covered are BADKE BRAIDWOOD BRUNNER DAVIES DORMAN FLEGLER GUYER HOEY HONOR HUMPHREY KELLETT KRONK MULLER MURR OBST PITMAN POSTLE PROSSER RAABE REITHMULLER SAAL SEANIGER SIGSTON SINCLAIR SINTON SQUIRES TEDFORD and many of the early families (incl. german) around the Darling Downs and SE Qld. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you would like gedcoms or descendant/ancestor reports for any of the listed people. Any additional information that you can supply on these families would be very much appreciated. Kind regards & have a nice day Don Gough Brisbane, Australia

I am looking for the arrival of:- Frederick MILLER/MULLER from Germany before his marriage in 1865 to Ann Daniels If SKS soul has the Eric Kopittike's book on passengers from Hamburg...I would really appreciate just this one look up. ......it doesn't seem to be at my local genie library and I am some weeks away from a trip to Melb library. Thanks Cheers Carol Melbourne

I've had no trouble accessing the site, both earlier today and just now. Warren in Brisbane -------Original Message------- From: Fay Mumme Date: Thursday, 18 July 2002 01:39:14 PM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: HAMBURG --- WEBSITE Tried the Hamburg website and this is a translation of the message on "Link to Your Roots" at present: Dear hamburg.de user At present unfortunately no access to www.hamburg.de is possible. We work on the problem and ask you for something patience. Fay in WA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorrraine Rowe" <snoopy131948@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:11 PM Subject: HAMBURG --- WEBSITE > Listers, > > Have been given a Website for Hamburg. www.hamburg.de > The State Archives there, are transcribing emigrant records, including City or Town of Birthplace Online. The home page is in German it is also translated into English and other languages as well. Scroll down right side and click on LINK TO YOUR ROOTS. On the right of this page you will see the different languages.They have done from 1890 upwards so far. You can do a surname search. Then if you find your relative there is a charge for the information.There are also old maps, not only of Germany, Australia and other countries. You can download these. Hope this is of help. > > Regards Lorraine. > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetidW1&sourceid37 > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetidW1&sourceid37 http://www.sold.com.au - SOLD.com.au - Find yourself a bargain!!

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Tried the Hamburg website and this is a translation of the message on "Link to Your Roots" at present: Dear hamburg.de user At present unfortunately no access to www.hamburg.de is possible. We work on the problem and ask you for something patience. Fay in WA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorrraine Rowe" <snoopy131948@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:11 PM Subject: HAMBURG --- WEBSITE > Listers, > > Have been given a Website for Hamburg. www.hamburg.de > The State Archives there, are transcribing emigrant records, including City or Town of Birthplace Online. The home page is in German it is also translated into English and other languages as well. Scroll down right side and click on LINK TO YOUR ROOTS. On the right of this page you will see the different languages.They have done from 1890 upwards so far. You can do a surname search. Then if you find your relative there is a charge for the information.There are also old maps, not only of Germany, Australia and other countries. You can download these. Hope this is of help. > > Regards Lorraine. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi I am looking for relies with the connection to these names ALL MIGRATED TO QUEENSLAND NITZ STRASSBURG SEIGMUND Some of the names that married into the Nitz lines were AUGUSTIN/E ABRAHAM GROSSKOFF/PF MULLER BERG SCHULTZ STRIKE RAABE STAATZ JACKLIN NORWOOD O'BRIAN VOSS VOIGT WARWICK (My Line) My other German side has these names, also in Queensland. AUGUSTIN/E GARMEISTER OSTERODE TRONC Would love to hear from anyone that is connected to these families. Regards Jacqui

Listers, Have been given a Website for Hamburg. www.hamburg.de The State Archives there, are transcribing emigrant records, including City or Town of Birthplace Online. The home page is in German it is also translated into English and other languages as well. Scroll down right side and click on LINK TO YOUR ROOTS. On the right of this page you will see the different languages.They have done from 1890 upwards so far. You can do a surname search. Then if you find your relative there is a charge for the information.There are also old maps, not only of Germany, Australia and other countries. You can download these. Hope this is of help. Regards Lorraine.

I am wondering if SKS out there has Eric Kopittike's book on passengers from Hamburg to Qld and if they could do a look up please of:- Frederick MILLER/MULLER (or?)b circa 1840...arrived in Australia prior to his marriage in 1865 in Qld.... I am assuming her would have arrived in the five year period between 1860-1865 but this is only VERY much a guess. Thanks for any help and thanks again to all the marvelous suggestions I have had so far..........people have been very generous with their help. cheers Carol

Dear Listers, A quick note I have updated our Mackay Historical Society and Museum Inc.Research Links pages to include research done on the Hotels past and present in the Mackay region from 1863 to the present. I have included a list of Sources used to gather the information as well as an alphabetical listing of Hotels past and present from the Mackay local government area. This listing includes the licencees and/or hotel-keepers and the dates they managed the hotels. This is only an interim listing and when research is further done the pages will be updated and corrected if need be. As you may well note it takes many hours to compile and collate the research. If anybody has any information or photographs on either the Hotels or the licencees and/or hotel-keepers that could be saved in our archive it would be greatly appreciated. to get to the site goto http://www.geocities.com/ghh_mackay/hotels/hotels.html Cheers from Glen from Pleystowe in sunny North Queensland, Australia Latitude 21� 8' 60S Longitude 149� 1' 60E http://www.geocities.com/hallybum/index.html Contact me on ICQ # 101870644

Dear Listers, A quick note I have updated our Mackay Historical Society and Museum Inc.Research Links pages to include research done on the Hotels past and present in the Mackay region from 1863 to the present. I have included a list of Sources used to gather the information as well as an alphabetical listing of Hotels past and present from the Mackay local government area. This listing includes the licencees and/or hotel-keepers and the dates they managed the hotels. This is only an interim listing and when research is further done the pages will be updated and corrected if need be. As you may well note it takes many hours to compile and collate the research. If anybody has any information or photographs on either the Hotels or the licencees and/or hotel-keepers that could be saved in our archive it would be greatly appreciated. to get to the site goto http://www.geocities.com/ghh_mackay/hotels/hotels.html Cheers from Glen from Pleystowe in sunny North Queensland, Australia Latitude 21� 8' 60S Longitude 149� 1' 60E http://www.geocities.com/hallybum/index.html Contact me on ICQ # 101870644

I am trying to get some more information on Ann DANIELS b circa 1847 in Bandambra Ipswich to parents Wlliam and Marty nee Mether/Mather...died 1928 ( i think) she married Frederick MILLER 18 aug 1865. They had 12 children. Ann's parents William DANIELSand Mary Maether had six chn BUT i can only find the deaths & marriages of the first two NOT the births...also there was an a gap of 14 years between the 1st 2 chn and the remaing 6

I am trying to trace the origins of Frederick MILLER b circa 1840 in Germany (so states his marriage cert) died 1888....his parents were stated as Margaret Mezgar(?) and Gurge Miller.......he may have been Muller perhaps he married 1865 in Qld to Ann DANIELS b circa 1847 Bandambra Ipswich to parents William Daniels and Mary Mether/Mather ..i think died 1928 Can someone advise me where to go from here? How might he have entered Australia? Would his death cert tell me how long in the colony (Vic ones do but I don't know about Qld ones)...ANY suggestions to trace this family would be great. He is recorded as a stockman/overseer...and they had 12 chn the first of whom, Mary Ann, is my line. cheers carol Melbourne

Haden to mark 125th anniversary One hundred and twenty-five years ago, the Haden district was first settled. As the early pioneers settled, the need for schools, churches, halls and railway was soon apparent, Haden township was a thriving centre from mid-1911. Haden State School was officially opened on May 20, 1912, and first known as Wahoon State School. To commemorate Haden's earlier name Wahoon, meaning scrub turkey, a steel scrub turkey will be mounted on top of a rock with a plaque containing a brief history of Haden. The committee is also looking for items for a time capsule, which will be buried as part of the project. To complete the setting, named pavers are to be laid around the base. If you were or are currently a resident or business of the Haden area or have a family involvement, you are invited to purchase a paver to record your own or your ancestor's name for future generations. This year we are holding celebrations to mark the 90th anniversary of Haden School and 125 years of Haden district. The celebrations will be at the Haden School grounds on Saturday, August 3, 2002, starting at 10am. A barbecue lunch will be available, and memorabilia displays are planned. A souvenir book has been produced for the occasion and will be available on the day. For more details contact Loretta Voll, Haden, on 4692 8247 or Alan Gersekowski on 4698 8161.

SPIRO, HENRY Henry Spiro was an Alderman from 1871 to 1872 and 1874 to 1876. He was Mayor from 1870 to 1873. He died on the llth December, 1876. HENRY SPIRO - TOOWOOMBA'S GERMAN-BORN MAYOR In 1869, nine years after the proclamation of the Municipality of Toowoomba the electors of the Central ward of the Municipality elected Mr. Henry Spiro to the council. Mr. Spiro was not the first German to become an alderman - Henry Flori, an innkeeper of James Street, was elected in 1852 - but in 1870 his fellow aldermen conferred on Henry Spiro the additional honour of being chosen as Mayor of the Municipality - a position to which he was re-elected in 1871 and which he held for a total of three years 1870-72. Henry Spiro was a German Jew. He was born in Posen and came to Australia in 1861 at the age of 22 years. He first set up business in Ipswich but in 1863, came to Toowoomba and in partnership with a Mr. Benjamin set up a store in Stewart Street. (This store was off James Street in what is now Geddes Street.) In 1855 Spiro and Benjamin built a truly magnificent store on the corner of Margaret and Ruthven Streets on the site now occupied by the C.B.A. bank [now demolished] [Now the site of an empty shop was a Chemcare chemist]. The handsome two storey brick building became a landmark in the town, and the name of Henry Spiro became a byword for generous honest dealing. In 1868 the partnership was dissolved, Mr. Benjamin moving on to Dalby, and Hr. Spiro continued the business. Henry Spiro died in 1875 leaving a wife and large family. He was only thirty-seven years old. Some quotations from his obituary, published in the contemporary papers, may serve to illustrate the esteem in which Henry Spiro was held. " Mr. Spiro possessed a large amount of natural ability and was a clear-headed shrewd financier. There are many successful businessmen in Toowoomba who owe their start to his assistance, and he tided them over difficulties which without him, must have stranded them in bankruptcy. He had his faults, like most men, but they were completely overshadowed by his kindly generous instincts, and by his noble disinterested efforts to relieve friends and even enemies from pecuniary embarrassments. Actions speak louder than words, and one case, out of scores, will suffice to strengthen our statement. For one gentleman, with whom he had had strong political contentions he not only lent him, in a moment when he most needed it, a cheque for £500, but subsequently endorsed for him promissory notes to the value of £1000, and never asked a farthing’s consideration for it. A friend in need is said to be a friend indeed, but it is not many friends who would advance their cash and add the responsibility of their names to aid others with whom they were in no way allied except as fellow-townsman.” The writer of the obituary noted that at his death Mr. Spiro's business had book debts of £10O00. Many of these dated from 1866. As Spiro said in his clearing out sale advertisement a year before his death he was - "The oldest established storekeeper in Toowoomba, who gave credit during the crisis in 1866 and continued the same to date, when everyone else wanted cash.” Besides his active political and business life, Spiro was a strong supporter of the Hebrew faith, and was largely responsible for the building of Queensland's first synagogue in Neil Street, on the site now occupied by the Redeemer Lutheran Church. He died soon after the building was consecrated and as the obituary reported - "At his own particular request his remains were taken past the new synagogue in Neil Street, which he had helped to erect, and at the consecration of which, not long ago, he took an active part." Spiro's business was purchased by his old partner Benjamin, but apparently the debts were too much for Benjamin to carry. His company became insolvent, and in May 1980 the property was sold. The building was bought by the Australian Joint Stock Bank for £4500 and the site has housed a bank since then [demolished in the 1990’s]. More to follow when I get it typed up