Thank you for the help with translating my letter, my only problem now is will they expect US or Australian Dollars. Everyones help is much appreciated. Alice

Hi Sue Aint spelling terrific? I looked up the CD for Qld BDM (until 1889) William STRASBOURG death 01Aug1878 (1878/ 002766) Father: Christian STRASBOURG Mother: Dorothea NETZ Was he the same William STRASBURG that married Mary Ann JACKSON 24Jun1871 ? Dorothea STRASBURG died 06Dec1870 (1870/ 000948) Father: NETZ Mother: Dorothea REISNER Do you know if the other STRASBURG girls that married were also sisters of William? Caroline STRASBURG married William SEMFEL 26Jul1865 (1865/ 000511) also with children listed. Do you know which are they settled? Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich Researching: 1. CONVICTS: CROSS, Flood, HAYES, McGEE, McCarthy, GALLAGHER. (Windsor, NSW) 2. WESCHE, KADDATZ, SCHAPER - Germany 1880's - Qld Aust. 3. MALLYON, Gibbs, Purkiss - Essex, UK 1874 - Qld Aust. Including - Davison, Moran, Hillier, BURNET. 4. McGUIRE - Ireland 1842 Redcoat - Qld Aust. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~garter1/mcguiretom.htm Including - Melia, WORLEY, MOORE, SAUNDERS, THOMPSON, McFARLANE, Martin. 5. MADDEN, Coghlane, Burke, - Ireland 1863 - Qld Aust. Including - Collins, Burke, RYAN, DOYLE, MARTIN, SCANLAN, Campbell, Smart, Callaghan, O'Brien -----Original Message----- From: Sue [mailto:suefhr@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2002 11:50 PM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D Digest V02 #160 Hi I saw your message, have you got a Caroline or William Strassburg, children of Christian Strassburg and Dorithina Nitz? I am also researching this family as Caroline married William Semfel, they are my husbands GGGrandparents. I hope we have a connection. Sue Ipswich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Berlin" <patnpop@hypermax.net.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 8:28 PM Subject: Re: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D Digest V02 #160 > For Kerry Muller, I am a Berlin and have a grandmother Muller and > grandmother Strassburg. Berlins came to Qld on the Wandrahm from Hamburg > Also I would like to be on the list for any info re History of the Uckermark. > Graham Berlin > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Graham The BERLINs are well covered here in the Lockyer Valley and have certainly married into many lines: Christian Frederick BERLIN Born: 5 October 1822 Brandenburg, Preussen Arrival: 12 January 1866 "WANDRAHAM" . +Wilhelmine Auguste STRASBURG Born: 17 January 1826 Prussia Married: 1850 Prussia Died: 29 March 1902 Qld, Aust Arrival: 12 January 1866 "WANDRAHAM" Father: Wilhelm STRASBURG ...... 2 Wilhelm Thomas BERLIN (AKA): Bill Born: 17 October 1851 Prussia Died: 12 November 1942 Arrival: 12 January 1866 "WANDRAHAM" .......... +Wilhelmine DOMROW Born: 2 April 1858 Married: 2 April 1875 Ipswich, Qld, Aust Died: 14 August 1898 Father: Wilhelm DOMROW Mother: Caroline SCHMIDT .......... +Eleanor Annie HOGG Married: 1899 ...... 2 Christian BERLIN (AKA): Chris Born: 1854 Arrival: 12 January 1866 "WANDRAHAM" .......... +Sarah Elizabeth MULLER Married: 26 September 1878 Qld, Aust ...... 2 Wilhelmine BERLIN Born: 1 August 1856 Prussia Died: 22 April 1944 Arrival: 12 January 1866 "WANDRAHAM" .......... +Frederick DOMROW Born: 24 November 1854 Married: 25 November 1874 Qld, Aust Died: 11 July 1940 ...... 2 Carl Friederich William BERLIN Born: 1859 Prussia Arrival: 12 January 1866 "WANDRAHAM" .......... +Bertha Maria Charlotte MAIBUSCH Married: 29 February 1884 Qld, Aust ...... 2 Frederick Wilhelm Carl BERLIN Born: 22 March 1862 Brandenburg, Preussen Arrival: 12 January 1866 "WANDRAHAM" .......... +Annie MULLER Born: 13 November 1871 Qld, Aust Married: 11 December 1885 Qld, Aust Died: 1935 Father: August Johann Christian MULLER Mother: Auguste Louise Albertine PETER ...... 2 Auguste BERLIN Born: November 1864 Prussia Died: 16 June 1866 Qld, Aust ...... 2 Johann August Wilhelm BERLIN Born: 3 December 1867 Qld, Aust .......... +Mathilde SCHULZ ...... 2 Heinrich Friedrich BERLIN (AKA): Henry Born: 25 November 1871 Qld, Aust Buried: Talegalla, Qld, Aust .......... +Auguste Emilie KRAATZ (AKA): Gusty Some of my sources are: Jill Tumes, Adelaide; Robyn Stieler, Ipswich; KUSS KIN by Joyce Scholl; HAUSCHILDT by Pam Beutel; SEMPF by Cecil H Sempf; MARSCHKE by Trevor Joseski; SCHAFFERIUS by Kerry Atkins; OLM by Herbert M Olm; SCANLAN by R A Scanlan; ZISCHKE-GHOLK Family Tree 1873-1984; KLEIDON by Max and Gwen Kleidon Only too happy to do lookups if helpful. Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich Researching: 1. CONVICTS: CROSS, Flood, HAYES, McGEE, McCarthy, GALLAGHER. (Windsor, NSW) 2. WESCHE, KADDATZ, SCHAPER - Germany 1880's - Qld Aust. 3. MALLYON, Gibbs, Purkiss - Essex, UK 1874 - Qld Aust. Including - Davison, Moran, Hillier, BURNET. 4. McGUIRE - Ireland 1842 Redcoat - Qld Aust. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~garter1/mcguiretom.htm Including - Melia, WORLEY, MOORE, SAUNDERS, THOMPSON, McFARLANE, Martin. 5. MADDEN, Coghlane, Burke, - Ireland 1863 - Qld Aust. Including - Collins, Burke, RYAN, DOYLE, MARTIN, SCANLAN, Campbell, Smart, Callaghan, O'Brien -----Original Message----- From: Pat Berlin [mailto:patnpop@hypermax.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2002 8:28 PM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D Digest V02 #160 For Kerry Muller, I am a Berlin and have a grandmother Muller and grandmother Strassburg. Berlins came to Qld on the Wandrahm from Hamburg Also I would like to be on the list for any info re History of the Uckermark. Graham Berlin ______________________________

Elaine What areas does the "MARANOA" cover, please? Thanks Lorrae -----Original Message----- From: Hamilton [mailto:vprojects@uq.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2002 5:15 PM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: History of the Maranoa region I have a copy of a book "Goodbye Bassamari" by Patrick Collins which has recently been published by University of Qld Press on the history of the Maranoa region. It is extensively referenced and indexed. Contact me off list if you would like me to do look-ups for you. Elaine ______________________________

Hi Bev You still having trouble with the 'Erin-go-Bragh' passengers? I read in one of the local Family History Books that when the ship was due to arrive, a lot of the unmarried men headed down to the wharf from this area. The comment stuck as I read something along the lines: One bachelor commented, "no not her" and his mate promptly said "Well, if you do not want her, I certainly do" upon which he made himself known to the lass and was shortly happily married. The book referrred to the ship (do not know which trip, if more then one) as the 'bride ship' so I guess there were a lot of unmarried females on board. The Germans and the Irish are so well inter-married in the Lockyer I would not be surprised to find that some-one's ancestor arrived on that ship. Does anyone have ancestors from any of the "Erin-go-Bragh" voyages?? Lorrae -----Original Message----- From: Bev [mailto:kerlindavidbev@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2002 2:56 PM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: History of Uckermark Hi ......... who will try to help me with my research on the voyage and passengers of the Erin-go-Bragh in 1862 please? Yep, they were mostly IRISH, but what's wrong with my asking our GERMANs? My husband is more or less half and half and most of you are too (I think):-) Cheers Bev kerlindavidbev@ozemail.com.au Researching (all to South East Queensland): CANTLE/BARNETT Gloucestershire England COURTNEY/DALTON Camberwell England GIESEMANN/TIMM Niedersachsen Prussia HANSEN/HENRICKSEN/etc Vends Herred Amt Odense Denmark HARRISON/WILLIS Co Armagh Northern Ireland KERLIN/BELL Co Down Northern Ireland YOUNG/YOUNGS/BARKER Norfolk England ______________________________

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Lake Macquarie Family History Group NSW AUS http://www.lmfhg.hl.com.au SEMINAR Saturday, 7th SEP 2002, at Toronto Multi Purpose Centre, 9 Thorne St., Toronto, NSW 10.30-12.00 / 1.00-2.30pm - morning and afternoon tea included Cost $10.00. Speaker on the day will be Mrs. Elizabeth Allum from Sydney covering the Australian and Overseas holdings of the Archives and Repositories within the City Circle of Sydney. Many topics will be discussed, from Post Offices, Land Titles, Immigration, Aliens & Naturalisation, Wills, Court Records, War Records, LDS for Australian Records to European Records etc. BRING ALONG THOSE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS for the Q & A Session. Please contact Elspeth kenbradbury@hunterlink.net.au or Jenny jenm@hunterlink.net.au ALL WELCOME! Jenny Myers Arcadia vale NSW Australia

Hi Sue, Someone once told me that the Strassburg & Nitz family are associated together quite a lot, and apparantly came from the same town in Germany. How correct this is I am not sure. Wilhelmine Auguste STRASSBURG was my GG Grandmother b. 17/1/1826 Blankenburg, Uckermarke d. 29/3/1902 Tallegalla Qld. She married Christian Friedrich BERLIN abt 1850 in Blankenburg. Her death certificate states her father as Wilhelm STRASSBURG of Prussia. That's all I have found out so far. By the way, I too am originally from Ipswich but haved lived in Melbourne for about 15 years. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks...Kerry Muller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue" <suefhr@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 11:50 PM Subject: Re: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D Digest V02 #160 > Hi > I saw your message, have you got a Caroline or William Strassburg, children > of Christian Strassburg and Dorithina Nitz? > I am also researching this family as Caroline married William Semfel, they > are my husbands GGGrandparents. > I hope we have a connection. > Sue > Ipswich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Berlin" <patnpop@hypermax.net.au> > To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 8:28 PM > Subject: Re: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D Digest V02 #160 > > > > For Kerry Muller, I am a Berlin and have a grandmother Muller and > > grandmother Strassburg. Berlins came to Qld on the Wandrahm from Hamburg > > Also I would like to be on the list for any info re History of the > Uckermark. > > Graham Berlin > > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to > South East Queensland, Australia. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Has anyone on the list received a shipping list from the Historic Emigration Office in Hamburg. I want to make sure it is worth spending the hefty research fee before I go ahead. Chris Stewart

> Could a lister please help me with the translation of this letter. I have > received some research and certs and the following letter, I assume I have > to pay and wish to do so but I cannot understand how much: > > Betr: Ihr Schreiben vom 8 august 2002 and die Stadtverwaltung Grossbottwar Re: Your correspondence of 8 August 2002 to the Grossbottwar Municipal Authority > > Amfrage uber Familie Beeh Question concerning the Beeh family. > > Von der Stadtverwaltung Grossbottwar wurde ich mit Ihrer Nachfrage uber Ihre > Familie Beeh Beauftragt. > Your query about the Beeh family was assigned to me for action by the Grossbottwar Municipal Authority > Ich sende jetzt Ihnen 4 generations vor dem Auswanderer nach Australien von > Jacob David Beeh I am sending you now 4 generations before Jacob David Beeh emigrated to Australia. Der erste mit dem Familiennamen Beeh der nach Grossbottwar > kam, kommt aus Grossheppach in Wurttemberg. The first person with the surname of Beeh who came to Grossbottwar, comes from Grossheppach in Württemberg. > Ich hoffe, dab Sie mit meiner Zusammenstellung der Familie Beeh zurecht > kommen. I hope that you can (cope with) (find no difficulties with) my compilation of the Beeh family > Beil: Gieschichte uber Grossbottwar. Encl: History of Grossbottwar > Ich bitte um Zusendung eine Dollarsschecks von 50 dollar. > I request you send a cheque in dollars of 50 dollars > Mit freundlichen gruben with friendly greetings (yours sincerely) > > Ihre Your > ..................... Looks a little strange in places but I think the above is the general idea. This has been transcribed from handwriting I think. regards, Shane London

Hi Alice, It translate a bit like this:- Betr: Their letter from 8 August 2002 and the city administration Grossbottwar Amfrage of uber family Beeh By the city administration Grossbottwar I was assigned your demand more uber its family Beeh. I send now you 4 generation before the emigrant to Australia von Jacob David Beeh. The first with the surname Beeh after Grossbottwar came, comes from Grossheppach into Wurttemberg. I hope, dab you with my composition of the family Beeh by right come. Hatchet: Gieschichte of uber Grossbottwar. I ask dollar cheques of 50 dollar for forwarding. With friendly dug Their Regards John Benfer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel & Alice" <rocknoel@mail.cth.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Translation please > > Could a lister please help me with the translation of this letter. I have > received some research and certs and the following letter, I assume I have > to pay and wish to do so but I cannot understand how much: > > Betr: Ihr Schreiben vom 8 august 2002 and die Stadtverwaltung Grossbottwar > > Amfrage uber Familie Beeh > > Von der Stadtverwaltung Grossbottwar wurde ich mit Ihrer Nachfrage uber Ihre > Familie Beeh Beauftragt. > > Ich sende jetzt Ihnen 4 generations vor dem Auswanderer nach Australien von > Jacob David Beeh. Der erste mit dem Familiennamen Beeh der nach Grossbottwar > kam, kommt aus Grossheppach in Wurttemberg. > > Ich hoffe, dab Sie mit meiner Zusammenstellung der Familie Beeh zurecht > kommen. > > Beil: Gieschichte uber Grossbottwar. > Ich bitte um Zusendung eine Dollarsschecks von 50 dollar. > > Mit freundlichen gruben > > Ihre > ..................... > > I hope I haven't offended anyone by requesting this on the list but I do not > know anyone who speaks German and I wish to know how to pay any money owing. > > Thank you, Alice > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hello Sue, I saw your response to Graham Berlin ( my mother's cousin!), so thought I would ask for any details you have for your Caroline and William STRASSBURG, like BDM dates , shipping, origins, place of residence in Queensland. Our ancestors Wilhelmine Auguste STRASSBURG b.17 January 1826 and her husband Christian Frederick BERLIN and 6 children came out on the Wandraham 12.1.1866 originating from Blankenburg, Uckermark, Preussen. I only know that Wilhelmine's father was Wilhelm STRASSBURG. Do yours originate from the same area? Jill Tumes

They seem to be asking for a $50 cheque. This is a translation done on the Alta Vista translator. It's not very clear, but you may be able to make sense of it. Betr: Their letter from 8 August 2002 and the city administration Grossbottwar Amfrage of uber family Beeh By the city administration Grossbottwar I was assigned your demand more uber its family Beeh. I send now you 4 generation before the emigrant to Australia von Jacob David Beeh. The first with the surname Beeh after Grossbottwar came, comes from Grossheppach into Wurttemberg. I hope, dab you with my composition of the family Beeh by right come. Hatchet: Gieschichte of uber Grossbottwar. I ask dollar cheques of 50 dollar for forwarding. With friendly dug Their ..................... Fay in WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel & Alice" <rocknoel@mail.cth.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:29 AM Subject: Re: Translation please > > Could a lister please help me with the translation of this letter. I have > received some research and certs and the following letter, I assume I have > to pay and wish to do so but I cannot understand how much: > > Betr: Ihr Schreiben vom 8 august 2002 and die Stadtverwaltung Grossbottwar > > Amfrage uber Familie Beeh > > Von der Stadtverwaltung Grossbottwar wurde ich mit Ihrer Nachfrage uber Ihre > Familie Beeh Beauftragt. > > Ich sende jetzt Ihnen 4 generations vor dem Auswanderer nach Australien von > Jacob David Beeh. Der erste mit dem Familiennamen Beeh der nach Grossbottwar > kam, kommt aus Grossheppach in Wurttemberg. > > Ich hoffe, dab Sie mit meiner Zusammenstellung der Familie Beeh zurecht > kommen. > > Beil: Gieschichte uber Grossbottwar. > Ich bitte um Zusendung eine Dollarsschecks von 50 dollar. > > Mit freundlichen gruben > > Ihre > ..................... > > I hope I haven't offended anyone by requesting this on the list but I do not > know anyone who speaks German and I wish to know how to pay any money owing. > > Thank you, Alice > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

may I get in on the file too please.. John

Could a lister please help me with the translation of this letter. I have received some research and certs and the following letter, I assume I have to pay and wish to do so but I cannot understand how much: Betr: Ihr Schreiben vom 8 august 2002 and die Stadtverwaltung Grossbottwar Amfrage uber Familie Beeh Von der Stadtverwaltung Grossbottwar wurde ich mit Ihrer Nachfrage uber Ihre Familie Beeh Beauftragt. Ich sende jetzt Ihnen 4 generations vor dem Auswanderer nach Australien von Jacob David Beeh. Der erste mit dem Familiennamen Beeh der nach Grossbottwar kam, kommt aus Grossheppach in Wurttemberg. Ich hoffe, dab Sie mit meiner Zusammenstellung der Familie Beeh zurecht kommen. Beil: Gieschichte uber Grossbottwar. Ich bitte um Zusendung eine Dollarsschecks von 50 dollar. Mit freundlichen gruben Ihre ..................... I hope I haven't offended anyone by requesting this on the list but I do not know anyone who speaks German and I wish to know how to pay any money owing. Thank you, Alice

Hi I saw your message, have you got a Caroline or William Strassburg, children of Christian Strassburg and Dorithina Nitz? I am also researching this family as Caroline married William Semfel, they are my husbands GGGrandparents. I hope we have a connection. Sue Ipswich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Berlin" <patnpop@hypermax.net.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 8:28 PM Subject: Re: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D Digest V02 #160 > For Kerry Muller, I am a Berlin and have a grandmother Muller and > grandmother Strassburg. Berlins came to Qld on the Wandrahm from Hamburg > Also I would like to be on the list for any info re History of the Uckermark. > Graham Berlin > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Very well writ BEV.

For Kerry Muller, I am a Berlin and have a grandmother Muller and grandmother Strassburg. Berlins came to Qld on the Wandrahm from Hamburg Also I would like to be on the list for any info re History of the Uckermark. Graham Berlin

I have a copy of a book "Goodbye Bassamari" by Patrick Collins which has recently been published by University of Qld Press on the history of the Maranoa region. It is extensively referenced and indexed. Contact me off list if you would like me to do look-ups for you. Elaine