Werona, I found all of my german descent servicemen in the nominal rolls - their name was Ziegenfusz - can't get more german than that. Regards David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Werona Armstrong" <werona@bacchus.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 5:47 AM Subject: On the topic of Wars... > Has anyone else noticed that their German ancestors are not present on any > of the nominal rolls? I have looked through WWI and WWII nominal rolls and > found none of my SEEMANN ancestors. I even tried many different spellings > that were anglicised. I know that during the war the family dropped the > final "n" to avoid appearing "German" but perhaps there was still a loyalty > to the motherland which caused them not to fight? However, they > immigrated in 1862 so quite a long time had passed since leaving - and it > would have been grandchildren and great grandchildren going to war - all > whom would have been born in Australia. > > Any comments? > > Regards > Werona > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

G'day Is anyone on the list researching this family or can someone point me in the right direction please? I am trying to establish the German antecedents of Friedrich Taege as I believe his is the Uncle of my August Taege who arr "Duke of Buckingham" 1873. On the "Duke" was a Carl Taege who was 68 yo and who could/should be related. TIA Norm

Werona Both my SCHMIDT family members who served in WW2 are listed on the Australian War Memorial site. Try www.ww2roll.gov.au and click on "name" in the third paragraph. Margaret -----Original Message----- From: Werona Armstrong [mailto:werona@bacchus.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 10 November 2002 5:47 AM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: On the topic of Wars... Has anyone else noticed that their German ancestors are not present on any of the nominal rolls? I have looked through WWI and WWII nominal rolls and found none of my SEEMANN ancestors. I even tried many different spellings that were anglicised. I know that during the war the family dropped the final "n" to avoid appearing "German" but perhaps there was still a loyalty to the motherland which caused them not to fight? However, they immigrated in 1862 so quite a long time had passed since leaving - and it would have been grandchildren and great grandchildren going to war - all whom would have been born in Australia. Any comments? Regards Werona ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi listers, Sorry about not mentioning WW2 site address. Thanks Werona to replying on my behalf - much appreciated. I managed to even find some of my MANSKI/STELLMACH veterans on this site. Regards Helena (Baking in Sydney but at least no bushfires near us)

Hi, My ancestry is definitely GERMAN and my EISER and SCHMIDT and SCHULTZ names are prominent. Please check out the site and you will be able to find your names unless the individuals did not serve in the Australian military services. My father was called up, but after boot camp, they asked for carpenters and it was the one and only time he ever volunteered for anything, and the sargeant told him to go to the office and he did and was handed his papers to muster out to go back to his job as a joiner to make munitions boxes for the rest of the war. He does not appear on the WW2 rolls. cheers, Beverly.

Hello, Thank you all for your input. From the general feedback everyone gave it seems that my family were an exception. As Beverley mentioned, they may have "served" in a different manner, than actual military service. And Albert...I loved your story! Shows there must have been some tension about "shooting cousins" within the population! I think I'll have to go and chat with my elder relatives again, next time I'm home, and see if any light can be shed. Thanks again. Werona

Hi Lorraine, Here it is...it's a part of the Australian War Memorial Site - it also has a nominal roll for the Boar War as well. http://www.awm.gov.au/database/133.asp Have fun with it! Werona At 12:01 PM 11/10/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Please what is the address for WW1 nominal rolls, I have found the WW2 >very good indeed - have spent many >hours on it. Thank you > >Lorraine > >Werona Armstrong wrote: > > > Has anyone else noticed that their German ancestors are not present on any > > of the nominal rolls? I have looked through WWI and WWII nominal rolls and > > found none of my SEEMANN ancestors. I even tried many different spellings > > that were anglicised. I know that during the war the family dropped the > > final "n" to avoid appearing "German" but perhaps there was still a loyalty > > to the motherland which caused them not to fight? However, they > > immigrated in 1862 so quite a long time had passed since leaving - and it > > would have been grandchildren and great grandchildren going to war - all > > whom would have been born in Australia. > > > > Any comments? > > > > Regards > > Werona > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated > to South East Queensland, Australia. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== >A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to >South East Queensland, Australia. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Has anyone else noticed that their German ancestors are not present on any of the nominal rolls? I have looked through WWI and WWII nominal rolls and found none of my SEEMANN ancestors. I even tried many different spellings that were anglicised. I know that during the war the family dropped the final "n" to avoid appearing "German" but perhaps there was still a loyalty to the motherland which caused them not to fight? However, they immigrated in 1862 so quite a long time had passed since leaving - and it would have been grandchildren and great grandchildren going to war - all whom would have been born in Australia. Any comments? Regards Werona

Fay, The nearest I can come is "Hauer" meaning Miner. From Owen Mutzelberg's book "How to trace your German Ancestors". Regards David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr Stephen Bradford" <faybradford@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 10:53 AM Subject: German occupation > Hello everyone > > Has anyone come across the German occupation "Hauerling"? (Nineteenth century) > > Fay > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi there tis Bernice here.Re brilliant site,must have missed it,could you send please?Have a nice day. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Wormleaton" <kevhel@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:17 PM Subject: Re: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D Digest V02 #218 > Hi List, > It is a brilliant site - heaps of info to fill in so many missing links > Many thanks > Helena > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 5:01 AM > Subject: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D Digest V02 #218 > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Helena I appear to have missed the email where the site you mention below was originally posted. Would you be able to post the site details again? Many thanks Margaret Szalay (nee SCHMIDT - Logan Reserve & Beaudesert) -----Original Message----- From: Helen Wormleaton [mailto:kevhel@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 9 November 2002 7:17 PM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D Digest V02 #218 Hi List, It is a brilliant site - heaps of info to fill in so many missing links Many thanks Helena ----- Original Message ----- From: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 5:01 AM Subject: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D Digest V02 #218 ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello everyone Has anyone come across the German occupation "Hauerling"? (Nineteenth century) Fay

Hi List, It is a brilliant site - heaps of info to fill in so many missing links Many thanks Helena ----- Original Message ----- From: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 5:01 AM Subject: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D Digest V02 #218

Margaret, I believe Helena would have been talking about the World War II Nominal Roll. The website is http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/ I've been there all day filling in lots of gaps too! Werona California At 10:14 AM 11/9/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Helena >I appear to have missed the email where the site you mention below was >originally posted. Would you be able to post the site details again? >Many thanks >Margaret Szalay (nee SCHMIDT - Logan Reserve & Beaudesert) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Helen Wormleaton [mailto:kevhel@optusnet.com.au] >Sent: Saturday, 9 November 2002 7:17 PM >To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D Digest V02 #218 > >Hi List, >It is a brilliant site - heaps of info to fill in so many missing links >Many thanks >Helena >----- Original Message ----- >From: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D-request@rootsweb.com> >To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 5:01 AM >Subject: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-D Digest V02 #218 > > > > >==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== >A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated >to South East Queensland, Australia. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== >A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to >South East Queensland, Australia. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Someone posted this on one of the lists I am on - so some of you are bound to already have this information thanks to that good person - but I thought it should be made known on as many lists as possible because it is such a good resource for recent Australian research. The Government has made a website listing all Australians who served in Australia's Defence forces and the Merchant Navy during World War II. I have found dates and places of birth that were too recent to be found by other research. The website is http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/ Elaine with gratitude - and acknowledgement - to the original poster of this information

Margaret, I was more or less wondering how big the book was. I have photo copies of the pages 135 through to 145. Are there many more than this or did I get the back end. I was going to see if I could get the rest of the book photocopied but by the looks of things it maybe too expensive. I wasn't looking for any particular name, just mad with myself for not getting more copies at the time. I use it to help with research requests on the mailing lists. Cheers Bev' In Toowoomba PS You wouldn't want to sell it by any chance would you? -----Original Message----- From: Margbay <margbry@dodo.com.au> To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, 7 November 2002 10:20 Subject: Re: Dawn over the Darling Downs >Yes, I have a copy of the book. I can look up anything you wish to know. >Regards >Margaret Bryant >----- Original Message ----- >From: Beverley Edmonds <beve@c-link.com.au> >To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 7:18 PM >Subject: Dawn over the Darling Downs > > >> Dear All, >> >> Would anyone have a book called "Dawn Over the Darling Downs" by Rev. >Father >> T. McKey. >> >> Cheers >> Bev >> >> >> >> ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== >> A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to >South East Queensland, Australia. >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > >==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== >A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi List With the 11th November fast approaching, and knowing this is the list for the Germans who settled in SE Qld in the late 1800's, how many of the next generation then signed up to fight their home country? I know a lot were interned here in Australia, mostly the leaders of their communities, but there were also a lot who did enlist. Revealed today is the WW2 database on the Internet http://www.ww2roll.gov.au Have we got any list members with family who either enlisted or were interned? Lorrae Johnson

Hi List With the 11th November fast approaching, and knowing this is the list for the Germans who settled in SE Qld in the late 1800's, how many of the next generation then signed up to fight their home country? I know a lot were interned here in Australia, mostly the leaders of their communities, but there were also a lot who did enlist. Revealed today is the WW2 database on the Internet http://www.ww2roll.gov.au Have we got any list members with family who either enlisted or were interned? Lorrae Johnson

Yes, I have a copy of the book. I can look up anything you wish to know. Regards Margaret Bryant ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverley Edmonds <beve@c-link.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 7:18 PM Subject: Dawn over the Darling Downs > Dear All, > > Would anyone have a book called "Dawn Over the Darling Downs" by Rev. Father > T. McKey. > > Cheers > Bev > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

-----Original Message----- From: Beverley Edmonds <beve@c-link.com.au> To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, 15 October 2002 7:31 AM Subject: 100 Years Goombungee > > >I have come across a few photocopied pages of this little booklet and >thought that I would copy the names from the 1881 School Roll. > Beverley, can you look up the name REINKE in the Goombungee book for me please? I'm not sure when my family went there but they were there in 1893. Many thanks Leona REINKE HORN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== >A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >