Hi Sue Christian RUICK was born 20Jun1868 1868/001841 to Georg RUICK and Margarethe KUBLER and died on 08Apr1869 1869/000669 to George Frederich RUICK and Margaretha KUBLER Also, only three RUICKs on the CD - the third one for the death of Margaretha RUICK 26Mar1869 1869/000654 Parents: Peter Kubler and Katherina DIEDRICH Hope this is helpful Lorrae -----Original Message----- From: Sue [mailto:suefhr@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Monday, 11 November 2002 3:59 PM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Pioneer Index Lookup Please Hello, I am hoping that someboby could please check Queensland records for about May 1868 for Christian Ruick being born, I know he lived to the age of 10 months, but could I also get a check to see if he died, please. This is just a new lead, I cannot get out to do research after another car hit mine and drove off this morning! Now the police are looking for a careless driver!. Thank you Sue ______________________________

Albert, I think it is on the corner of Tor and Bridge, I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. There is now a park there. Cheers Bev -----Original Message----- From: Albert Grulke <grulke@bigpond.com.au> To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, 12 November 2002 7:22 Subject: Black Gully >Hi Folks, >Can anybody enlighten me? >Where is/was Black Gully, Toowoomba? >Albert Grulke in sunny old Melbourne town > > >==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== >A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanks for the address Joan, I've been into the sight briefly. Looks good. Christine Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Baumann <farjoy@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:36 PM Subject: Re: World War 1 Enlistments. > try http://www.awm.gov.au/database/133.asp > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine Ross" <cpross@austarnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:35 PM > Subject: World War 1 Enlistments. > > Dear Listers. > > > > If anyone has the internet address (if any) for WW1 enlistments I'd very > > much appreciate it. > > Thanks > > Christine Ross >

Hi Folks, Can anybody enlighten me? Where is/was Black Gully, Toowoomba? Albert Grulke in sunny old Melbourne town

In WW1 a Scottish lad left Queensland to fight the war in Germany, his Uncle had married a German woman in Queensland, I found out that Charles was killed in Messines Ridge on the 7th June 1917, his Uncles wife's nephew was fighting on the German side in the same battle and died on the 8th June 1917. I feel so sad these men among thousands of others lost there life, yet they were related. Sue Ipswich

Yes, Thanks Elaine. Christine Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: Hamilton <vprojects@uq.net.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:46 PM Subject: Re: World War 1 Enlistments. > Is this the one you want? > > http://www.awm.gov.au/database/nroll.asp > > Elaine > > At 08:35 PM 11/11/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >Dear Listers. > > > >If anyone has the internet address (if any) for WW1 enlistments I'd very > >much appreciate it. > >Thanks > >Christine Ross > > > > > > > > > >==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > >A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to > >South East Queensland, Australia. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

try http://www.awm.gov.au/database/133.asp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Ross" <cpross@austarnet.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:35 PM Subject: World War 1 Enlistments. > Dear Listers. > > If anyone has the internet address (if any) for WW1 enlistments I'd very > much appreciate it. > Thanks > Christine Ross > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Is this the one you want? http://www.awm.gov.au/database/nroll.asp Elaine At 08:35 PM 11/11/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Dear Listers. > >If anyone has the internet address (if any) for WW1 enlistments I'd very >much appreciate it. >Thanks >Christine Ross > > > > >==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== >A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to >South East Queensland, Australia. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dear Listers. If anyone has the internet address (if any) for WW1 enlistments I'd very much appreciate it. Thanks Christine Ross

Thank you Werona, I have just got the death cert for Margaretha today, so that is how we found another son. We just have to fight with the insurance company now. Thank you Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Werona Armstrong" <werona@bacchus.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:22 PM Subject: Re: Pioneer Index Lookup Please > Hi Sue, > > Sorry to hear about your car - I hope they catch the driver. > > Here is the information you are looking for: > > Christian Ruick born 20/06/1868 ref: 1868/001841 > Christian Ruick died 08/04/1869 ref: 1869/000669 > > There is also the death of Christian's mother Margaretha (father Peter > Kubler & Katherina Diedrich) on 26/03/1869 ref: 000654. > > I hope this helps. > Werona > > At 03:58 PM 11/11/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >Hello, > >I am hoping that someboby could please check Queensland records for about > >May 1868 for Christian Ruick being born, I know he lived to the age of 10 > >months, but could I also get a check to see if he died, please. > >This is just a new lead, I cannot get out to do research after another car > >hit mine and drove off this morning! Now the police are looking for a > >careless driver!. > >Thank you > >Sue > > > > > >==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > >A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to > >South East Queensland, Australia. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello, I am hoping that someboby could please check Queensland records for about May 1868 for Christian Ruick being born, I know he lived to the age of 10 months, but could I also get a check to see if he died, please. This is just a new lead, I cannot get out to do research after another car hit mine and drove off this morning! Now the police are looking for a careless driver!. Thank you Sue

Yes Judy, Providing it is to do with the Germans of SEQld, it is of interest. Particularly your grandfather, who himself was a German migrant, a leader in his community, and through this leadership, helped with the migration of many German families, indeed, some settlements, and yet was still interned. From your book, it would be interesting to note which families members were interned from the various families, even more astonishing if other relatives signed up. Lorrae (PS - was the SEQld area ever defined - as far north as Maryborough, Bundaberg, perhaps Rockhampton (although I have not heard of German settlement in that area) and west as far as settlement went? -----Original Message----- From: Judy Cutts [mailto:jaycee@uqconnect.net] Sent: Sunday, 10 November 2002 6:12 PM To: Tom & Lorrae Johnson Subject: Re: "Lest we forget" Yes, my G Grandfather H F Niemeyer was interned during WW1. Is this of interest? I have a very good book "Enemy Aliens" by Gerhard Fischer outlining who was interned and why during the period 1914 - 1920. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom & Lorrae Johnson" <taj@uq.net.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:47 PM Subject: "Lest we forget" > Hi List > > With the 11th November fast approaching, and knowing this is the list for > the Germans who settled in SE Qld in the late 1800's, how many of the next > generation then signed up to fight their home country? > > I know a lot were interned here in Australia, mostly the leaders of their > communities, but there were also a lot who did enlist. > > Revealed today is the WW2 database on the Internet http://www.ww2roll.gov.au > > Have we got any list members with family who either enlisted or were > interned? > > Lorrae Johnson > > ______________________________

Hi Sue, Sorry to hear about your car - I hope they catch the driver. Here is the information you are looking for: Christian Ruick born 20/06/1868 ref: 1868/001841 Christian Ruick died 08/04/1869 ref: 1869/000669 There is also the death of Christian's mother Margaretha (father Peter Kubler & Katherina Diedrich) on 26/03/1869 ref: 000654. I hope this helps. Werona At 03:58 PM 11/11/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hello, >I am hoping that someboby could please check Queensland records for about >May 1868 for Christian Ruick being born, I know he lived to the age of 10 >months, but could I also get a check to see if he died, please. >This is just a new lead, I cannot get out to do research after another car >hit mine and drove off this morning! Now the police are looking for a >careless driver!. >Thank you >Sue > > >==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== >A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to >South East Queensland, Australia. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi List, My comments may be a little of line, please make allowance. I still remember my father telling me that when he came back from the Middle East during WW11 and he visited his father's farm at Marburg near Ipswich, he was very surprised and annoyed to find police of Irish origin visiting his father's farm and freely helping themselves to the farm produce, no payment. He raised this activity with his father and was told by him to restrain himself and ignore it. This all happened while we were still at war and my grandfather had three sons in war service and serving their country Australia. Regards Wayne

I found my grandfather on the WW2 site and his cousins too, and they were Australian born children of German migrants. Lorrae -----Original Message----- From: Donna Spencer [mailto:donnas@itxperts.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 10 November 2002 10:21 AM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: On the topic of Wars... Werona My Grandfather and Uncle tried to enlist in WWI, but were unable to as they were not naturalised at that stage. Perhaps this helps you. Regards Donna Researching: HAASE/ZUMBANSEN/STECKLING ----- Original Message ----- From: "Werona Armstrong" <werona@bacchus.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 4:47 AM Subject: On the topic of Wars... > Has anyone else noticed that their German ancestors are not present on any > of the nominal rolls? I have looked through WWI and WWII nominal rolls and > found none of my SEEMANN ancestors. I even tried many different spellings > that were anglicised. I know that during the war the family dropped the > final "n" to avoid appearing "German" but perhaps there was still a loyalty > to the motherland which caused them not to fight? However, they > immigrated in 1862 so quite a long time had passed since leaving - and it > would have been grandchildren and great grandchildren going to war - all > whom would have been born in Australia. > > Any comments? > > Regards > Werona > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

It is with the grestest sadness that I forward this email My heartfelt sympathy to her family and friends. Lorrae -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Billinghurst [mailto:billingh@rootsweb.com] Sent: Sunday, 10 November 2002 1:19 AM Subject: [ANZ-ADMINS] Re Janet Reakes (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 07:16:29 GMT From: John Buzacott <buzacott@austarmetro.com.au> Subject: Re Janet Reakes It is with great sadness that I report the death of Janet Reakes at approximately 7.30 am today, Saturday 9th November at Hervey Bay, Queensland. Her passing was due to a sudden onset of a Diabetic coma. Her last email to me yesterday, (Friday), said she was feeling ill, and ended with, "You never know what a day brings" Vale Janet. May she be in heaven an hour before the devil knows she is dead. John Buzacott J.P. Cairns, Queensland ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Please what is the address for WW1 nominal rolls, I have found the WW2 very good indeed - have spent many hours on it. Thank you Lorraine Werona Armstrong wrote: > Has anyone else noticed that their German ancestors are not present on any > of the nominal rolls? I have looked through WWI and WWII nominal rolls and > found none of my SEEMANN ancestors. I even tried many different spellings > that were anglicised. I know that during the war the family dropped the > final "n" to avoid appearing "German" but perhaps there was still a loyalty > to the motherland which caused them not to fight? However, they > immigrated in 1862 so quite a long time had passed since leaving - and it > would have been grandchildren and great grandchildren going to war - all > whom would have been born in Australia. > > Any comments? > > Regards > Werona > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Werona, My uncles and a number of other relations are listed on the roll. I don't want to appear a smart alec but there was actually two wars fought between 1939 and 1946. The first war was against the Germans in Europe and the second was against the Japanese in the islands to the north of us. Many see this as being two separate wars. I mention this because I remember a story about a fellow who owned a property out form Pittsworth. The story was that he sub-divided his property among his six sons when the German war started so they would not be able to go and shoot their cousins. When the Japanese war started he resumed most of the blocks and put share farmers on them so that his sons could go to New Guinea and fight like mad for this their own country. Albert Grulke in mild old Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: Werona Armstrong [mailto:werona@bacchus.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 10 November 2002 5:47 AM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: On the topic of Wars... Has anyone else noticed that their German ancestors are not present on any of the nominal rolls? I have looked through WWI and WWII nominal rolls and found none of my SEEMANN ancestors. I even tried many different spellings that were anglicised. I know that during the war the family dropped the final "n" to avoid appearing "German" but perhaps there was still a loyalty to the motherland which caused them not to fight? However, they immigrated in 1862 so quite a long time had passed since leaving - and it would have been grandchildren and great grandchildren going to war - all whom would have been born in Australia. Any comments? Regards Werona ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi All, My HOEPPER family came from Prussia to Toowoomba in 1865 (La Rochelle) and I found eight of them on the WW2 roll. Their name was spelt a is. Haven't checked WW1 yet. Hazel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Werona Armstrong" <werona@bacchus.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 5:47 AM Subject: On the topic of Wars... > Has anyone else noticed that their German ancestors are not present on any > of the nominal rolls? I have looked through WWI and WWII nominal rolls and > found none of my SEEMANN ancestors. I even tried many different spellings > that were anglicised. I know that during the war the family dropped the > final "n" to avoid appearing "German" but perhaps there was still a loyalty > to the motherland which caused them not to fight? However, they > immigrated in 1862 so quite a long time had passed since leaving - and it > would have been grandchildren and great grandchildren going to war - all > whom would have been born in Australia. > > Any comments? > > Regards > Werona > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

G'day Can I try again please, with a subject this time. Is anyone on the list researching this family or can someone point me in the right direction please? I am trying to establish the German antecedents of Friedrich Taege who arrived this ship as I believe his is the Uncle of my August Taege who arr "Duke of Buckingham" 1873. On the "Duke" was a Carl Taege who was 68 yo and who could/should be related. TIA Norm