The Maryborough Family History society has some listed in its Pioneer Register. You can contact us at mdfhs@satcom.net.au or via www.satcom.net.au/mdfhs We do run an inexpensive research service and there are still Geisslers in Maryborough Eric Kopittke is the guru of German shipping lists via Qld Family History society ( on the net)good luck Sandra in Maryborough Qld ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annie" <ANNSINCLAIR@wanadoo.fr> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 9:34 AM Subject: Re: German ships to brisbane > I was wondering if anyone has access or knows of passenger lists for Germans > arriving in Brisbane between 1860 and 1875 online. > > Researching the Name GEISLER / GESLER / GESSLER / GEISSLER. Arrived Brisbane > settled Mackay QLD. > > Thanks > Ann Sinclair > Normandy, France > > ______________________________

Greetings List, Is there anyone out there who is researching the above mentioned names. They are from Barnstedt, Holstein, Germany and Strohdick, Neuendorf, Germany. they had a child Maria (Anna Margreta??) who married her cousin Johann BIEL at Wansbeik in Germany, then migrated to Brisbane. I think they must have belonged to a large German community as I have quite a few group photos of large groups of people at picnics and social gatherings. Any help would be appreciated. Carmel Stafford

Hi David, The National Archives at Cannon Hill has a smattering of films of outwards passengers that I thought to try at one time to index. Unfortunately there is little value in them as the passengers usually appear in the form: Mr Jones Mrs Simpson Smith Jones You get better information from the Social Gossip pages of the newspapers. Cheers Marionne

Please, would anyone hold information on the family of Carl SCHMALING and Elsie ZELLER. Looking for descendants and also the parents of this couple as well. Bev. Edmonds

I wondered if anyone knows if any records listing persons leaving Queensland in the last two decades of the 18th century have survived? I know several of my ancestors left Australia to return to their former home in this period and if possible I would like to track down when. Any and all thoughts, ideas, inspirations most welcome. Many thanks David

If anyone knows the answer to this, could you either let me know too or publish it on the list? Elaine At 02:41 PM 24/11/2002 +1100, you wrote: >I wondered if anyone knows if any records listing persons leaving Queensland >in the last two decades of the 18th century have survived? > >I know several of my ancestors left Australia to return to their former home >in this period and if possible I would like to track down when. > >Any and all thoughts, ideas, inspirations most welcome. > >Many thanks > >David > > > >==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== >A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to >South East Queensland, Australia. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dear Lorrae, I have tried to send you an email but it gets kicked back into my box as undeliverable...................and so it goes. I will unsubscribe soon because our first grand child is about to be born and I will be going to our daughters for the event and to help her through the first few weeks. This will be a grand Christmas for our family. will re-subscribe in January when I get back. cheers, Beverly.

Hello to fellow GIERKE researchers. I have a GERKE/GURKE in my line, but on a female one. My great great grandfather -Carl Christian MILICH came to SA in 1850 from Lasgen in Silesia near the border to Branderburg. On church records here and on the Brandenburg Emigration list (when free from Ancestry.com) gave Carl's mothers' name as the above. I notice on indexes that there were one or two males that also came to SA with the same name, and wondered is perhaps my variation in spelling could be interpreted as GIERKE as well. If your families came from the same area I would love to hear from you. Regards, Cheryl Briody in hot hot Ballarat, Victoria

Hi Kathy I know of some books, but I do not know of internment sites on the web. Does anyone on our list know of web sites? Surely if the information on our German relatives in SEQld were listed on a web page, they would have links to other sites! Lorrae -----Original Message----- From: JKHILL@bigpond.com [mailto:JKHILL@bigpond.com] Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2002 11:26 AM To: taj@uq.net.au Subject: Re: "Lest we forget" Lorrae My great uncle was interned at the SA camp during WW2. Is there any list/info on the net about the internment POWs? I haven't been able to find any yet. Kathy -------Original Message------- From: taj@uq.net.au Date: Saturday, 16 November 2002 10:25:15 AM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: "Lest we forget" Hi List With the 11th November fast approaching, and knowing this is the list for the Germans who settled in SE Qld in the late 1800's, how many of the next generation then signed up to fight their home country? I know a lot were interned here in Australia, mostly the leaders of their communities, but there were also a lot who did enlist. Revealed today is the WW2 database on the Internet http://www.ww2roll.gov.au Have we got any list members with family who either enlisted or were interned? Lorrae Johnson ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 . ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here

My grandmother (née WEDEMEYER) married an Irishman in 1896 and moved to Sydney away from her family in the Gayndah & Eidsvold area. Her Sydney house was called "WEDEMEYER". Whenever we visited them we said we were visiting "WEDEMEYER", and we always pronounced the "ey" part of "WEDEMEYER" with a short "I" giving a sound for "eyer" as in the English word "ear". It would seem possible that this was how the name was pronounced when g-grandfather first came to Qld. This was supported by one of my WEDEMEYER relations who told me that her father was given the Sydney version short "I" pronunciation, by the old people in Gayndah. However, all the modern-day WEDEMEYER relatives, without exception, pronounce the final "meyer" with a long "I" for the "ey" giving a sound for "eyer" as in the English word "mire". Was this due to a desire to conform to the average Australian who has no desire to have precise Germanic pronunciation? I have tracked down some 1870's letters written around Gayndah, Qld by my g-grandfather WEDEMEYER, (b. 1825 in Goslar near Hannover, Germany). The letters were in English language and in a typical rounded English script and addressed to the Qld Lands Department. Significantly, on four occasions he signs his name with a definite umlaut over the Y of WEDEMEYER.... two vertical strokes. A research archivist from Germany tells me that she has found the Y umlaut in 17th century archives "very often" and it was not found in any particular region. However, I still don't know how it would have been definitively pronounced in the context of "WEDEMEYER". Can anyone advise? Relating to the need to conform and use of umlauts: I taught in High Schools in the west of Sydney and had spoken to Mr and Mrs Mueller (Müller with a ü), parents of a student at the school. I used their name frequently in an interview.... correctly pronounced since I thought people like to hear their name used correctly. In later following up the interview, I spoke to the student by name in the corridor... he immediately corrected me and said: Me name's "MOOLER" Sir! -- ***Philip Strong***Email:plstrong@pnc.com.au***Blue Mountains, Australia*** German Interest: WEDEMEYER. Most of the WEDEMEYERS in the Queensland telephone book are related through George Henry Louis WEDEMEYER of Gayndah Qld.

Would you please reply via the list "Reply All" and not to me directly. Thanks Lorrae -----Original Message----- From: kaybarry [mailto:kaybarry@tpg.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 8:20 PM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: Re RUHLE I have a Rohle in our family tree could this be another way that Ruhle was spelt Regards Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret mcnamara" <memcnamara@yahoo.com> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:05 PM Subject: Re: Re RUHLE > > I have a couple of RUHLEs in my tree. These families were around Pittsworth-Millmeran. > Bob & Jill <greytop@iprimus.com.au> wrote:Margaret, > > Which Schmidt Family have you and your cousin researched? > > I am interested in information regarding Wilhelm Friedrich Schmidt. > Wilhelm Friedrich Schmidt and August Schmidt have witnessed a Application > for a Homestead document dated 2/3/1883 for my G.G. Grandfather August > Frederich Ruhl. > > It also appears Wilhelm Friedrich Schmidt and August Frederich Ruhl had > neighbouring properties. > > I have reason to believe that Wilhelm Frederich Schmidt and August Frederich > Ruhl are related and would like to follow up on this theory. > > If anyone could help it would be much appreciated. > > Jillian. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan Baumann" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 PM > Subject: Re:SCHMIDT > > > > G'day Margaret, > > Which Schmidt family are you researching? I am the great > > grand-daughter of Claus Heinrich Frederick Schmidt and his wife Anna Maria > > Steckmeister. Do they link into your family? > > Joan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Margaret Szalay" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 5:56 AM > > Subject: War records - WW2 > > > > > > > Both my SCHMIDT family members who served in WW2 are listed on the > > > Australian War Memorial site. Try www.ww2roll.gov.au and click on > > > "name" in the third paragraph. > > > Margaret > > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Stuart I live in that area, I also have a lot of family Tree books from this area, and I only have 5 GIERKEs on my database, however, I may have the families they married into and just not recorded your families. I have recorded families where they connect with my families. If you can give me a few of the families, I will check more details. I have Christine Luise Gierkewho married Christian Friedrich Ehrenberg, their daughter married Christian Fredrich Beutel. Looking forward to hearing from you and being able to help. Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich WESCHE, KADDATZ, SCHAPER - Germany 1880's - Qld Aust. -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Gunning [mailto:wattenbo@tpg.com.au] Sent: Monday, 18 November 2002 3:41 PM To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: KLAEHN, DRAEGER, GIERKE hello to all this is my first contribution. I am interested in, and hold a modest amount of information about, these families whose various members lived at various times in Mt Tarampa, Toogooloowah, Coominya, Toowoomba, Hatton Vale. SeveraI of them are buried at Brightview and Hatton Vale. I would be grateful for any assistance thank you stuart gunning ______________________________

I was wondering if anyone has access or knows of passenger lists for Germans arriving in Brisbane between 1860 and 1875 online. Researching the Name GEISLER / GESLER / GESSLER / GEISSLER. Arrived Brisbane settled Mackay QLD. Thanks Ann Sinclair Normandy, France

I have Gierke's married into my Diflo line - farmers from around Toowoomba. And a Mrs Gierke who took into care an orphan (McCreath) from Brisbane. Any connection? Marg McN. Stuart Gunning <wattenbo@tpg.com.au> wrote:hello to all this is my first contribution. I am interested in, and hold a modest amount of information about, these families whose various members lived at various times in Mt Tarampa, Toogooloowah, Coominya, Toowoomba, Hatton Vale. SeveraI of them are buried at Brightview and Hatton Vale. I would be grateful for any assistance thank you stuart gunning ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site

----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Reinke" <reinke@dataline.net.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: Re: KLAEHN, DRAEGER, GIERKE > Hi Stuart, > > Could you please tell me some of the Gierke Family Names, so I can see if I > hav a connection to yours. > > Thanks > Cathy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stuart Gunning" <wattenbo@tpg.com.au> > To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:40 PM > Subject: KLAEHN, DRAEGER, GIERKE > > > > hello to all > > > > this is my first contribution. I am interested in, and hold a modest > amount of information about, these families whose various members lived at > various times in Mt Tarampa, Toogooloowah, Coominya, Toowoomba, Hatton Vale. > SeveraI of them are buried at Brightview and Hatton Vale. I would be > grateful for any assistance > > thank you > > > > stuart gunning > > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to > South East Queensland, Australia. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Stuart, Could you please tell me some of the Gierke Family Names, so I can see if I hav a connection to yours. Thanks Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Gunning" <wattenbo@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: KLAEHN, DRAEGER, GIERKE > hello to all > > this is my first contribution. I am interested in, and hold a modest amount of information about, these families whose various members lived at various times in Mt Tarampa, Toogooloowah, Coominya, Toowoomba, Hatton Vale. SeveraI of them are buried at Brightview and Hatton Vale. I would be grateful for any assistance > thank you > > stuart gunning > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Margaret I think it could be possible. I have noticed the difference in spelling from one record to another. My August was born in Traupe which could be Trampe so the same area. Have you got Carl 1 and Caroline (Wife 2) death certificate? If not I might send for them as that may give us some more information. What do you think? Regards Karole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Szalay" <mszalay@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:20 PM Subject: RE: Schmidt Surname > Hi Karole > > Here is what I have. I am descended from Carl 2, the eldest son from > Carl 1's first marriage. Carl 2 brought his wife and young family with > him to Australia. Your August may be the eighth child from Carl 1's > second marriage, allowing for the slightly different spelling of his > mother's name, but the dates could be right. Let me know what you > think. > Margaret > > The family of Carl Friedrich Wilhelm SCHMIDT (Carl 1) > Born 16-8-1800 at Trampe Uckermark Prussia > Died 25-12-1879 – buried at Bethesda Cemetery, Beenleigh > Qld > > A [m1] 1st marriage 4-4-1825 > Christina HARCH born 3-10-1797 died 17-3-1832 > > # B1 Carl Friedrich Wilhelm born 6-9-1825 (Carl 2) > B? Daniel assumed a > mis-entry > * B2 Joachim Friedrich Wilhelm born 1828? > * B3 Wilhelm Friedrich born 9-12-1830 > > A [m2] 2nd marriage 28-4-1832 > * Caroline Wilhelmine THIEMCKE born 21-6-1813 died > 17-8-1898 > > # B1 Dorothea Luisa Wilhelmine born > 7-11-1834 > B2 Fredericke Wilhelmine Caroline born 21-4-1838 > B3 Carl Friedrich born > 25-9-1839 > B4 Wilhelmine Caroline born > 30-12-1840 > B5 Maria Elizabeth born > 24-6-1842 > B6 Carl August Friedrich born > 23-11-1843 > % B7 Christian Gottleib born > 23-12-1844 > Son still born 12-8-1845 > * B8 August Friedrich Ferdinand born > ? > * B9 Johanne Elizabeth > born ? > > Legend:- > # Carl 2 (m1 B1) and his wife, Christine and their five children: > Dorothea (m2 B1) and her husband Friedrich and their two children, > arrived on the sailing ship “Alster” in Brisbane on 8th August 1863 > > * Carl (senior) and his wife Caroline: > Joachim (m1 B2) and his wife Maria and child > Wilhelm (m1 B3) and his wife and their five children > August (m2 B8) and Johanna (m2 B9) > Arrived on the “Caesar Goddefroy” on 14th February 1866 > > % Christian (m2 B7) and his wife Ernestine arrived in 1872 as he > had been involved in the Franco Prussian War. > > -----Original Message----- > From: B & M James [mailto:bmjames@tpg.com.au] > Sent: Friday, 15 November 2002 4:23 PM > To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Schmidt Surname > > While we are on the Schmidt subject - this is what I have on mine > > Descendants of Carl Schmidt > > 1 Carl Schmidt > . +Wilhelmine Dienske Father: Mother: > .. 2 August Friedrich Ferdinand Schmidt b: 27 February 1848 in Traup > Prussia d: 21 May 1912 in Pimpama Island Qld > ...... +Caroline Friederike Louise Greske m: 18 December 1873 in > Malloou > Rosewood Churchill b: 1853 in Plowen Ukermark Prussia Father: Christian > Greske Mother: Dorothea Litzmann > ....... 3 Benjamin Friedrich Schmidt b: 10 November 1879 in Alberton > d: > 26 April 1972 in Gympie Qld > ........... +Augusta Louisa Ernst m: 13 July 1910 in Lutheran Church > Pimpama Island b: 8 November 1883 in Pimpama Island d: 21 April 1940 in > Gympie Qld Father: Albert August Ernst Mother: Anna Hulda Bertha Huth > ............ 4 Ernest Alfred Schmidt b: 3 May 1916 in Pimpama Island > ............... +Nellie Therese O'Neill > ............ *1st Wife of Ernest Alfred Schmidt: > ............... +Bernice Phoebe Eunice Bickmore m: Abt 1940 > ............ 4 Pearl Dorothy Schmidt b: 22 October 1911 in Pimpama > Island > Qld d: 23 June 1990 in Wondai Qld > ............... +Percy Loyal Hanson > ............ 4 Rosaleen Anna Schmidt b: 13 February 1915 d: 23 > January > 1993 > ....... 3 Alfred Schmidt b: 19 December 1874 > ....... 3 Rudolph August Schmidt b: 1 December 1876 > ....... 3 Martha Caroline Schmidt b: 14 July 1878 > ....... 3 Anna Augusta Schmidt b: 22 December 1883 > ....... 3 Hulda Caroline Schmidt b: 25 December 1887 > ....... 3 Ferdinand Daniel Schmidt b: 30 January 1890 in Alberton d: > 12 > January 1972 > ........... +Ida Agnes Huth m: 14 November 1917 > ............ 4 Llewelyn Schmidt b: 23 September 1918 in Beenleigh Qld > ............... +Gwendoline Noame Wilke > ............ 4 Cedric Schmidt b: 14 February 1922 in Beenleigh Qld d: > 3 > August 1994 > ............... +May Bobbermien > ............ 4 Ronald Schmidt b: 10 April 1927 > ............... +Shirley Fischer > Anything ring a bell > > Regards > Karole > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated > to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-SE-Germans Mailing List ==== > A List for the research of the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Sandra, My gg grandmother was Johannetta Wilhelmine WEBER b.10 June 1824 in Guisser, Germany. She arrived Arrived on "Caesar Goddefroy". 31 March 1856 in Grafton, New South Wales, Australia. Her parents were Maria Elizabeth SACK and Johannes WEBER. She married Johannes WUNDERLICH, 30 September 1856 in Church of England, Grafton, New South Wales. I would be interested in the book if there is a link to the WEBERs in the book. Regards, Wendy > From: "sandra armstrong" <sandra@satcom.net.au> > Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 08:38:09 +1100 > To: AUS-QLD-SE-Germans-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Weber Family History Book > > The Maryborough District Family History Society today launched Ted > Weber's book > "Pioneers in a new Land; the History of the Weber Family in Australia". > Four Weber brothers came to Queensland and founded something of a large > family in the Maryborough area. Of course the descendants spread all > over Queensland. One brother went to WA about 1890. > > The book is available from > MDFHS > PO Box 408 > Maryborough Q 4650 > and costs $25 posted in Australia. Overseas mailing on application. This > book is very good value and includes many descendancy charts and photos. > A must if you are descended from any of the brothers. > Sandra Armstrong > President MDFHS > > ______________________________

Hi WE are looking for information on Paul Theobald Edward MULLER b. 2 Oct 1852 Ohdruff, Thuringia, Prussia and first known in Australia 21 September 1876 when he married Caroline Jane LAMB/LUMB at St Paul's Church Adelaide S A. Also know that Paul's brother Carl Clement MULLER b 26 Jan 1854 Ohdruff, Thuringia, Prussia , was in Adelaide as was a witness to the above marriage. Can not locate the boys coming into Australia and if they travelled with other members (unknown) of their family. Both the boys came to Queensland arriving by 1885. Does anyone have any information that will help in our research Allan and Barbara DEAN

hello to all this is my first contribution. I am interested in, and hold a modest amount of information about, these families whose various members lived at various times in Mt Tarampa, Toogooloowah, Coominya, Toowoomba, Hatton Vale. SeveraI of them are buried at Brightview and Hatton Vale. I would be grateful for any assistance thank you stuart gunning