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    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Wilsonton School 1939-1956
    2. Di Randell
    3. Hello Albert I only have, as an attachment that was sent to me, children enrolled at Wilsonton School 1939 to 1956. I'm having trouble with my printer and can't get it to print up for me. I can only read the names from the computer screen. I'll send it to you, offlist, as an attachment. I don't know what the name of the book is or when it was printed: it looks like it's a photocopy of a school jubilee or similar. The pages have been donated. Di Randell. Albert Grulke wrote: > I am interested that somebody has a roll of students attending Wilsonton > School. I wonder when from and if she can look up some names for me. > Fascinating to be taken back like this. Di Randell wrote: Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Wilsonton School 1939 to 1956 Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 09:02:13 +1000 References: <[email protected]><[email protected]> Hello List Off topic quite a bit, here, but I have two pages of enrolments for Wilsonton School for the years 1939-1956 if anyone would like a lookup. Di R. Judy Meilbusch wrote: Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Green Wattle Ridge near > The nearest school would have been Wilsonton and if this is the area you > are after, the children if any may have gone to school there. I'm fairly > sure school admissions registers exist for that period Noel & Del wrote: > > Does anyone know where Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba is?

    11/05/2007 03:10:48
    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Book Inquiry
    2. norm bourguignon
    3. Albert, the piggery I remember was owned by Nev Fowler and there was another one. At this time they were being housed intensively with a very scientific diet of grain, vitamins and minerals etc - no scraps allowed. Gaylene ----- Original Message ----- From: "albert grulke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Book Inquiry >I have just read the several emails on this subject. > First of all I am interested if any body has information on the Bliech > family as they occur in two family groups that I am researching. To add to > that they were great grandparents of my wife but she knows nought of them. > Second Greenwattle Street now we lived right near there when I was a boy > and my father used to gather milk from farmers in Greenwattle Street. He > had > a bulk milk run to the factory from Gowrie Junction areas and Wilsonton. > Greenwattle Street used to run from the Cemetery passed the town side of > thr > aerodrome and came to a sudden halt just north of Bridge Street. When I > was > in Toowoomba recently my cousin took me to Gowrie Junction vie Greenwattle > Street and they have now extended it . The area between Taylor and Bridge > Streets was closed off to extend the aerodrome. I think that happened in > the > 1960s. I have a vague idea that when I returned from Vietnam it was closed > then. I came back to Toowoomba to get my family before we came south where > I > have been ever since. > Our farm touched into Greenwattle Street in the areas that was a scrub and > is now a wending road. > It is certainly a long way from Charlton although the highway now goes > through there. In my day it went via Taylor Street. > I can almost remember the names of every person living in Greenwattle > Street > at that time but have no0 recollection of Bleich. > I am interested that somebody has a roll of students attending Wilsonton > School. I wonder when from and if she can look up some names for me. > Fascinating to be taken back like this. > I think that Hogg Street was further down toward Rockville. It may now > connect to Greenwattle Street but if my memory is correct it also run onto > a > scrub before Tor Street. > The piggeries that have been mentioned were in fact in Gowrie Road about > three kilometres west of Greenwattle Street owned by Percy Morgan, In > Boundary Road owned by Adam Knauth and in Boundary Road and Taylor Street > owned by George Ciesolka. I think there was another one in Hogg Street but > cannot recall the owner's name. It was only a small one compared to the > others. > Adam Knauth used to go to all the hotels, cafes (restaurants) and any > householder who engaged him. He did a daily and weekly run collecting the > kitchen waste for his pigs. > George Ciesolka and the bloke in Hogg Street used to collect the whey from > the cheese factory. He had a truck with a tank on it and would go to the > factory each morning to collect his whey and buttermilk. > I forget what Percy Morgan gathered but think it might have been both whey > , > buttermilk and kitchen refuge. > Hope this is of interest > Alberta Grulke > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Noel & Del > Bergman > Sent: Sunday, 4 November 2007 3:17 PM > To: Gloria Mattingley; [email protected]; > [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Book Inquiry > > Hi Gloria, > > We aren't sure if there has been a book written on the La Rochelle, but > there is a lot of information in the books Emigrants from Hamburg > series written by Eric and Rosemary Kopittke. The whole collection is > now available on CD from the Qld Family History Society. It contains > the passenger list of the voyage, age of the person, last place of > residence and occupation, the date of departure from Hamburg, > information on the ship itself, it also contains newspaper reports > about the voyage and in the case of the La Rochelle in 1865, there are > many. > > We have also heard there are extracts from a diary written by the > Supertendant Stuart Beach on Dunwich where the ship was held in > quarantine. > > Hope this is helpful > > Regards > > Noel & Del Bergman > > From: "Gloria Mattingley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date sent: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:21:44 +1000 > Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Book Inquiry > Send reply to: [email protected] > > [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] > > I am after a book on the Immigration ship La Rochelle which sailed > from Germany to Australia in 1865. Could someone tell me if it is > available please. > > Thanks, > > Gloria. > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who > migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to > South East Queensland, Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to > South East Queensland, Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 2636 (20071103) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

    11/05/2007 02:44:57
    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Diaries and Journals
    2. Hi all, My ancestor Edward Weber seemed to have immigrated "indirect". I have him leaving Hamburg on the "Herder" in May 1881 which went to New York, via Le Havre. I'm assuming he left the ship in Le Havre as he wasn't listed as disembarking in NY. Somehow he made it to Moreton Bay to first elope (family story) and then get married in November 1881 (certificate), with a daughter born 6 months later. Trying to find connections for the sea voyages are a proving little difficult! I'm assuming he went from Le Havre to England, possibly Southampton, and then to Australia. Indexes for 1881 England to Australia are proving hard for me to find/access. Rosemary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel & Del Bergman" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Diaries and Journals Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 10:13:37 +1000 > Hi List, > > Thank you to all those kind people who replied to inquiry > regarding diaries and journals from voyages to Australia > around 1865. Even though some of them aren't for the > exact time frame, it is a wonderful insight into the > conditions that many of our families underwent. > > We were surprised to read that one of the families, the > Windolf family emigrated on the ship Gauntlet which > arrived in Moreton Bay on the 20th February 1878 and that > the family came Indirect. They travelled from Hamburg to > London on the "Martin" and then changed ships to the > "Gauntlet". At that time it was more common for people to > emigrate using the Direct shipping method from Hamburg or > Bremen and it was only after 1880 that Indirect became > the norm. > > Has anyone else found instances where before 1880, their > family emigrated Indirect. > > We know that there were other instances where people > emigrated from Germany to England and lived there for in > some cases for several years before then emigrating to > Australia. My Bergmann ancestor of Johann Carl Ludwig > Voje/Bergmann left Mecklenburg between 1852 and 1858 and > travelled to England. He met his future wife Anna > Wellbrock in London where they married. She herself had > emigrated from Hanover. They then emigrated with their > two children in 1862 on the "Whirlwind". > > We have never been able to find the exact date of when > either of them left Germany, but we know from looking at > microfilms of the Parish Records from their relevant > areas, that they were both confirmed in their birthplaces > at the age of 14. > > Noel & Del Bergman > > > > A List for the research for the descendants of the > Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message

    11/05/2007 01:23:23
    1. [SEQ-Germans] Travel from Germany to Australia
    2. Perplexed
    3. My gg grandparents also arrived from London. They went to NSW (Morpeth) in 1849 on the Parland. There were a number of German families who travelled on that ship to work in the NSW vineyards. You can see them at: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Workshop/2299/parland1849.html Anne .... > We were surprised to read that one of the families, the Windolf family > emigrated on the ship Gauntlet which arrived in Moreton Bay on the > 20th February 1878 and that the family came Indirect. They travelled > from Hamburg to London on the "Martin" and then changed ships to > the "Gauntlet". At that time it was more common for people to > emigrate using the Direct shipping method from Hamburg or Bremen > and it was only after 1880 that Indirect became the norm. > > Has anyone else found instances where before 1880, their family > emigrated Indirect. >

    11/04/2007 02:03:59
    1. [SEQ-Germans] Greenwattle Ridge Toowoomba
    2. Hi Del & Noel I found from the entry for Samuel Bleich in the T&DDFHS book 'Darling Downs Biographical Register to 1900' Samuel and Louisa lived Greenwattle Ridge off Gowrie Road Toowoomba in the Black Gully area. Therefore Judy is quite correct in suggesting the children may have gone to Wilsonton school. I am at home, so haven't looked at the Wilsonton records. Cheers Marionne

    11/04/2007 12:20:20
    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Wilsonton School 1939 to 1956
    2. Noel & Del Bergman
    3. Hi Anna, Thank you. After what you said and others on the list, we managed to find a map of Toowoomba and District and found Green Wattle St at Wilsonton and it isn't far from Charlton, so it sounds as though it is the right place. Thanks again Noel & Del Date sent: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 09:57:04 +1000 From: "Anna Bell" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Wilsonton School 1939 to 1956 Send reply to: [email protected] [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] Hi Green Wattle Ridge is out near Charlton on the way to Oakey. Anna On 11/4/07, Di Randell <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello List > > Off topic quite a bit, here, but I have two pages of enrolments for > Wilsonton School for the years 1939-1956 if anyone would like a > lookup. > > Di R. > > > Judy Meilbusch wrote: > Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Green Wattle Ridge near > The nearest > school would have been Wilsonton and if this is the area you > are > after, the children if any may have gone to school there. I'm fairly > > sure school admissions registers exist for that period Noel & Del > wrote: > > > Does anyone know where Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba is? > > > > > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who > migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an email to [email protected] with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. Archives - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/04/2007 07:58:10
    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba
    2. Noel & Del Bergman
    3. Hi Gaylene, Thank you. That appears to be the general concensus. It gives us something to work on. Noel & Del From: "norm bourguignon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba Date sent: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 14:32:16 +1000 I wouldn't be surprised is it was the area around Greenwattle St in Wilsonton Toowoomba. Hogg St is nearby because there were a number of piggeries in the area in the 1960's. It is a high fertile ridge. Someone else may be more informed. Gaylene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel & Del Bergman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba > Hi List, > > Does anyone know where Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba is? > > For our Susanne Godeffroy project, we have found mention that the > Bleeck/Bleich family were there in 1889. > > > Regards > > Noel & Del Bergman > > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who > migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an email to [email protected] with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > __________ NOD32 2635 (20071102) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

    11/04/2007 07:29:31
    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba
    2. Noel & Del Bergman
    3. Hi Judy, Thank you. It gives us something to work on. Regards Noel & Del Send reply to: "Judy Meibusch" <[email protected]> From: "Judy Meibusch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba Date sent: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 14:33:52 +1000 Noel and Del There is a Greenwattle street on the western side of Toowoomba, running north/south. In that era and in fact when I was young it would have been rural with small farms or may still have been part of Gowrie Estate.The most elevated part, I think would have been at the northern end ? ...one of my favourite riding haunts as a child. The nearest school would have been Wilsonton and if this is the area you are after, the children if any may have gone to school there. I'm fairly sure school admissions registers exist for that period. Cheers Judy > Hi List, > > Does anyone know where Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba is? > > For our Susanne Godeffroy project, we have found mention that the > Bleeck/Bleich family were there in 1889. > > > Regards > > Noel & Del Bergman > > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who > migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an email to [email protected] with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message >

    11/04/2007 07:27:28
    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba
    2. Noel & Del Bergman
    3. Thank you for that information. Perhaps it is the same area. We can keep that in mind for further research. Regards Noel & Del Date sent: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 14:22:45 +1000 From: js4815 <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba my wife does not know a green wattle ridge but when she lived in Toowoomba 50 odd years ago the was a green wattle st in Wilsonton, leading to the airport On 11/3/07, Noel & Del Bergman <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi List, > > Does anyone know where Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba is? > > For our Susanne Godeffroy project, we have found mention that the > Bleeck/Bleich family were there in 1889. > > > Regards > > Noel & Del Bergman > > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to > South East Queensland, Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/04/2007 07:26:09
    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Book Inquiry
    2. Noel & Del Bergman
    3. Hi Gloria, We aren't sure if there has been a book written on the La Rochelle, but there is a lot of information in the books Emigrants from Hamburg series written by Eric and Rosemary Kopittke. The whole collection is now available on CD from the Qld Family History Society. It contains the passenger list of the voyage, age of the person, last place of residence and occupation, the date of departure from Hamburg, information on the ship itself, it also contains newspaper reports about the voyage and in the case of the La Rochelle in 1865, there are many. We have also heard there are extracts from a diary written by the Supertendant Stuart Beach on Dunwich where the ship was held in quarantine. Hope this is helpful Regards Noel & Del Bergman From: "Gloria Mattingley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Date sent: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:21:44 +1000 Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Book Inquiry Send reply to: [email protected] [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] I am after a book on the Immigration ship La Rochelle which sailed from Germany to Australia in 1865. Could someone tell me if it is available please. Thanks, Gloria. A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. Archives - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/04/2007 07:16:36
    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Siebken Family
    2. Lorrae
    3. Hi Folks No attachments to the list. They end up in my intray. Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich -----Original Message----- From: Uwe Jacobsen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, 28 October 2007 6:58 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Siebken Family Hi Noel & Del, Siebken is a common name in Schleswig-Holstein. But to start a successful research I need the exact birthplace of your ancestors. " Holstein " is not enough. Please look at the attached file - a map of our area. Try to find out the origin of your "Siebken`s". Greetings Uwe researcher in Schleswig-Holstein www.ancestor-research.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel & Del Bergman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 5:56 AM Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Siebken Family > Hi Group, > > Does anyone have any information on the Siebken brothers Peter born > circa 1843 and Claus born circa 1846. They emigrated to Moreton Bay > on the ship "Susanne Godeffroy" arriving in 1865. They were from > Holstein. > > We have searched many different variants of the name and in all > states but can't find them. > > Help! > > Noel & Del Bergman > > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to > South East Queensland, Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/04/2007 06:25:31
    1. [SEQ-Germans] Help with Translation
    2. Lorrae
    3. Hi Folks Rootsweb does not like HTML pages, especially with those little Free Animations at the bottom - they end up in my in tray. Thanks for the translation, Kevin Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich ________________________________ From: Kevin Niethe [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 22 October 2007 10:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Help with Translation O God my sun & shield In you I find life & salvation Transform in thine heavenly Image I praise thy sincere mankind Kevin Niethe -------Original Message------- From: Jane & Peter <mailto:[email protected]> Date: 21/10/2007 5:18:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Help with Translation Dear Listers, Can anyone help out with the translation of the following German inscription? O Gott meine sonne und schild In dir fand ich leben und heil Verklart in dein himmlisches bild Lobpreis ich dich herrlichstes theil Regards Jane Free Animations for your email - By IncrediMail! <http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=102282&rui=89823598>

    11/04/2007 06:25:31
    1. [SEQ-Germans] Book Inquiry
    2. Gloria Mattingley
    3. I am after a book on the Immigration ship La Rochelle which sailed from Germany to Australia in 1865. Could someone tell me if it is available please. Thanks, Gloria.

    11/04/2007 06:21:44
    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Wilsonton School 1939 to 1956
    2. Anna Bell
    3. Hi Green Wattle Ridge is out near Charlton on the way to Oakey. Anna On 11/4/07, Di Randell <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello List > > Off topic quite a bit, here, but I have two pages of enrolments for > Wilsonton School for the years 1939-1956 if anyone would like a lookup. > > Di R. > > > Judy Meilbusch wrote: > Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Green Wattle Ridge near > The nearest school > would have been Wilsonton and if this is the area you > are after, the > children if any may have gone to school there. I'm fairly > sure school > admissions registers exist for that period > Noel & Del wrote: > > > Does anyone know where Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba is? > > > > > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to > South East Queensland, Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/04/2007 02:57:04
    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Diaries and Journals
    2. Beryl
    3. Hello Noel & Del My ancestor Hugo Julius MAY departed Hamburg, Germany, for London, England, 8 September 1877, on board the "Virgo". His arrival record in London hasn't been found todate. He departed London, 14 September 1877, on board the "Scottish Hero" for Australia. Arrived at Rockhampton, Queensland, 12 December 1877, just four days before his 21st Birthday. Hugo's brother Albert age 16 who was sponsted by him sailed from Germany via London, England. Departed London on the "Decca" 26 Jun 1889, and arrived Moreton Bay, Qld. Aust. 17 Aug 1889. His voyage between Germany and England has not been researched to hard to date. Beryl

    11/04/2007 02:34:31
    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Wilsonton School 1939 to 1956
    2. Di Randell
    3. Hello List Off topic quite a bit, here, but I have two pages of enrolments for Wilsonton School for the years 1939-1956 if anyone would like a lookup. Di R. Judy Meilbusch wrote: Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [SEQ-Germans] Green Wattle Ridge near > The nearest school would have been Wilsonton and if this is the area you > are after, the children if any may have gone to school there. I'm fairly > sure school admissions registers exist for that period Noel & Del wrote: > > Does anyone know where Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba is?

    11/04/2007 02:02:13
    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Diaries and Journals
    2. Dick Collyer
    3. Dear Noel and Del Heinrich and Elise Bruckner also emigrated from Germany to England, married there, worked for a couple of years, then emigrated. Heinrich was an engineer and was injured in a bridge-building accident and of course had no income as a result. So they decided to emigrate to Qld. He worked as an engineer on the ship and Elise was listed as passenger. They lived in Ipswich and Heinrich worked in the Railway Workshops before then establishing his sawmill at Boonah in c. 1884. Angela -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Noel & Del Bergman Sent: Saturday, 3 November 2007 10:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Diaries and Journals Hi List, Thank you to all those kind people who replied to inquiry regarding diaries and journals from voyages to Australia around 1865. Even though some of them aren't for the exact time frame, it is a wonderful insight into the conditions that many of our families underwent. We were surprised to read that one of the families, the Windolf family emigrated on the ship Gauntlet which arrived in Moreton Bay on the 20th February 1878 and that the family came Indirect. They travelled from Hamburg to London on the "Martin" and then changed ships to the "Gauntlet". At that time it was more common for people to emigrate using the Direct shipping method from Hamburg or Bremen and it was only after 1880 that Indirect became the norm. Has anyone else found instances where before 1880, their family emigrated Indirect. We know that there were other instances where people emigrated from Germany to England and lived there for in some cases for several years before then emigrating to Australia. My Bergmann ancestor of Johann Carl Ludwig Voje/Bergmann left Mecklenburg between 1852 and 1858 and travelled to England. He met his future wife Anna Wellbrock in London where they married. She herself had emigrated from Hanover. They then emigrated with their two children in 1862 on the "Whirlwind". We have never been able to find the exact date of when either of them left Germany, but we know from looking at microfilms of the Parish Records from their relevant areas, that they were both confirmed in their birthplaces at the age of 14. Noel & Del Bergman A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. Archives - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/03/2007 02:00:39
    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Diaries and Journals
    2. Eric & Rosemary Kopittke
    3. Noel and Del, My grandfather, Gustav Kopittke, together with his sister Augusta Kopittke (later married Johann Friedrich Eggert Meier) and parents Daniel and Charlotte Kopittke emigrated indirectly, arriving in Brisbane 27 March 1876 aboard the "Western Monarch". My father recalled his father telling him that the English trains did not run as smoothly as the German trains and that they'd all been afraid that the English train would fall apart. I have not yet looked seriously for their voyage from Germany to England. That might have to wait till I retire! Greetings Eric Kopittke > From: "Noel & Del Bergman" <[email protected]> > Date: 3 November 2007 10:13:37 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Diaries and Journals > Reply-To: [email protected], [email protected] > .... > We were surprised to read that one of the families, the Windolf family > emigrated on the ship Gauntlet which arrived in Moreton Bay on the > 20th February 1878 and that the family came Indirect. They travelled > from Hamburg to London on the "Martin" and then changed ships to > the "Gauntlet". At that time it was more common for people to > emigrate using the Direct shipping method from Hamburg or Bremen > and it was only after 1880 that Indirect became the norm. > > Has anyone else found instances where before 1880, their family > emigrated Indirect. >

    11/03/2007 11:59:08
    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba
    2. Judy Meibusch
    3. Noel and Del There is a Greenwattle street on the western side of Toowoomba, running north/south. In that era and in fact when I was young it would have been rural with small farms or may still have been part of Gowrie Estate.The most elevated part, I think would have been at the northern end ? ...one of my favourite riding haunts as a child. The nearest school would have been Wilsonton and if this is the area you are after, the children if any may have gone to school there. I'm fairly sure school admissions registers exist for that period. Cheers Judy > Hi List, > > Does anyone know where Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba is? > > For our Susanne Godeffroy project, we have found mention that the > Bleeck/Bleich family were there in 1889. > > > Regards > > Noel & Del Bergman > > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who > migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/03/2007 08:33:52
    1. Re: [SEQ-Germans] Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba
    2. norm bourguignon
    3. I wouldn't be surprised is it was the area around Greenwattle St in Wilsonton Toowoomba. Hogg St is nearby because there were a number of piggeries in the area in the 1960's. It is a high fertile ridge. Someone else may be more informed. Gaylene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel & Del Bergman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba > Hi List, > > Does anyone know where Green Wattle Ridge near Toowoomba is? > > For our Susanne Godeffroy project, we have found mention that the > Bleeck/Bleich family were there in 1889. > > > Regards > > Noel & Del Bergman > > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to > South East Queensland, Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 2635 (20071102) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

    11/03/2007 08:32:16