Beryl I would like a copy of this photo please. I am also trying to identify people in a group wedding photo taken at Templin in 1899. Cheers Bob -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Beryl Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2008 5:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Help With Photo ID Hello List I have a wedding photo taken I think early 1900. This photo come from the Boonah area or close surrounding district. I need help with ID'ing the couple in the photo. I'm happy to send a scened copy to anyone who thinks they may be able to help Regards Beryl A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. Archives - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Beryl I had Zirbel family living at Boonah & outside, you never know Only too happy to check out your photo Regards Phyllis Zirbel Goondiwindi Q RESEARCHING FAMILIES Zirbel, Kitson, Horton, Tebb . Acret, Fechner Busiko ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beryl" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 5:18 PM Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Help With Photo ID > Hello List > > I have a wedding photo taken I think early 1900. > This photo come from the Boonah area or close surrounding district. > I need help with ID'ing the couple in the photo. > > I'm happy to send a scened copy to anyone who thinks they may be able to > help > > Regards > Beryl > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to > South East Queensland, Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1267 - Release Date: > 8/02/2008 8:12 PM > >

Thank you to Gaylene and Lorrae to the copy of the marriage certificate. Helen Turner

Beryl I would like to have a look at your photo. Patricia [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beryl" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 5:18 PM Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Help With Photo ID > Hello List > > I have a wedding photo taken I think early 1900. > This photo come from the Boonah area or close surrounding district. > I need help with ID'ing the couple in the photo. > > I'm happy to send a scened copy to anyone who thinks they may be able to > help > > Regards > Beryl > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to > South East Queensland, Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/696 - Release Date: 6/02/2008 > 12:00 AM > >

Hello List I have a wedding photo taken I think early 1900. This photo come from the Boonah area or close surrounding district. I need help with ID'ing the couple in the photo. I'm happy to send a scened copy to anyone who thinks they may be able to help Regards Beryl

Hello Lorrae, Would you please send me a copy of the above marriage certificate. Thank you, Helen Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorrae" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:25 PM Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Mariage Certificate - JAHNKE - BLEISNER 19Feb1902 > Hi Folks > > Gaylene has sent me the marriage aertificate of Herman Ted August JAHNKE > and Albertina Frederica > Wilhelmina BLEISNER . > > If you want me to send you this certificate, will you please email me > direct with the above subject > line, and I will reply with the attachment. [email protected] > > Gaylene sent it to the list, but the list does not support attachments, so > I will send on for her. > It is 1mb > > Thanks Gaylene > > > Lorrae > Glenore Grove Qld 4342 > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich > > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to > South East Queensland, Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Folks Gaylene has sent me the Birth Certificate for Willie Otto - the son of Julius Otto MOLKENTINE and Matilda Louisa REDLIN. If you want me to send you this certificate, will you please email me direct with the above subject line, and I will reply with the attachment. [email protected] Gaylene sent it to the list, but the list does not support attachments, so I will send on for her. It is in 2 parts and over 1.5mb together. Thanks Gaylene Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich

Hi Folks Gaylene has sent me the marriage aertificate of Herman Ted August JAHNKE and Albertina Frederica Wilhelmina BLEISNER . If you want me to send you this certificate, will you please email me direct with the above subject line, and I will reply with the attachment. [email protected] Gaylene sent it to the list, but the list does not support attachments, so I will send on for her. It is 1mb Thanks Gaylene Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich

Hi Folks Gaylene has sent me the Birth Certificate for Albertina Fredericke Wilhelmine - the daughter of Michel BLISNER and Christine JAHNKE. If you want me to send you this certificate, will you please email me direct with the above subject line, and I will reply with the attachment. [email protected] Gaylene sent it to the list, but the list does not support attachments, so I will send on for her. It is 2mb Thanks Gaylene Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich

hI Hi again just saw this email of yours. Yes it is a fascinating story and one I think with relevance to todays Australia. A lot of great Australians of German descent were hurt because it was not only those of German birth that were interned but also others of German parentage. I believe it shows what can happen when fear rules our heads. Its also not just the internments but politicians and officials of German descent that were forced to resign and other people of German heritage that suffered grave economic loss because of government policy and community attitudes. Any notes you can send would be great. Naomi's father's story isn't attached so can your resend but not via the list? Any notes if you have time to send them snail mail can be sent to 2/197 Breton St Coopers Plains Qld 4108. So far my preliminary research shows that approximnately 4800 Germans were interned in World War I of which 4600 were Australian residents or citizens. In World War II the figure was only 400 so the practice was not as extensive. It seems in World War II the focus was more on Community leaders that they could make an example of as a warning. Apparently, the legislation that allowed the internment of "enemy aliens" in World War I and additional legislation that was passed in World War II has never been repealed and could be used today to prison people from countries with which we are at war e.g Arabs. I actually think it is scary Regards Chris --- Lorrae <[email protected]> wrote: > Chris, > First of all this story fascinates me. I have had a > plan to write a story on > the internments from the perspective of the > individuals and their > descendants. I have gathered a reasonable amount of > material but the project > is about ten years away and by then I probably won't > be here. > The attached story is about Naomi's father. I have > the file here and can > send it to you by snail mail if you want it. It does > not say much more than > what I have written. > I will try to find the notes that I have gathered > over a time if you want > them. > I recently got some information on the internment of > pastor Gutekunst but it > si incomplete at this stage. > Albert Grulke > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Chris Schmidt > Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2008 2:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Germans in Australia > 1914-1946- Research I am doing > > Hi > > I am writing a book on the history of Germans in > Australia during World War I and II and the period > between the wars. This is a project that I expect to > take quite a while to complete- probably as long as > five years at the rate I get time to pursue the > things > I am interested in! > > Naturally, the whole issue of internment comes into > this and I am interested in hearing from anyone with > personal stories to relate who remember or have > information on relatives that were interned. I would > also be interested in speaking to anyone still > living > who has memory of these years and can relate their > experiences or maybe there is someone who still has > relatives alive that were interned. Because, it can > start to get a little off topic, and can raise > dissension, it would be best to provide info off > list. > I am also interested in hearing people's current > opinions- and the reasons for them- on the issue of > internment. > > One of the reasons given for internment was the > supposed lack of loyalty of the Germans and those of > German descent. For example, I have seen it written > that a lot of Germans stated that they did not want > their sons serving in an English war where they > would > meet their cousins still in Germany on the battle > field. I intend to present the other side of the > story- that despite first generation Australians not > being permitted to serve- many did serve and with > honour. > > As an introduction, I will also be giving an > overview > of German immigration to Australia, and when, where > and why they came and their contribution and > Australian attitudes up until then. The book will > then conclude with a summary of what has happened > sense. I know many people I have spoken to tell of > really negative attitudes and the association of > all > Germans with Nazi until recently. > > Any help with any information- off list- would be > appreciated. Personal stories can be included in > the > book anonymously or with credit. > > I look forward to people's responses! > > Regards > > Chris > > A List for the research for the descendants of the > Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, > Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. www.yahoo7.com.au/y7mail

Hi Albert How are you? You asked me to contact you as you have something for me. Regards Chris Schmidt --- albert grulke <[email protected]> wrote: > Can Chris please contact me as I have something for > him? > > Albert Grulke > > A List for the research for the descendants of the > Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, > Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. www.yahoo7.com.au/y7mail

Hi Listers, Following on about internment during the two big wars - I would like to jump in here and remind readers, of an excellent book produced several years ago by Manfred Jurgensen and Alan Corkill from the University of Queensland, - called " The German Presence in Queensland" which has very detailed stories and links about those dark days. I do not know if the book is still in print but should be available to read through local libraries..............Happy reading .......Jim C. Chris Schmidt wrote: >hI >Hi again > >just saw this email of yours. Yes it is a fascinating >story and one I think with relevance to todays >Australia. A lot of great Australians of German >descent were hurt because it was not only those of >German birth that were interned but also others of >German parentage. I believe it shows what can happen >when fear rules our heads. > >Its also not just the internments but politicians and >officials of German descent that were forced to resign >and other people of German heritage that suffered >grave economic loss because of government policy and >community attitudes. > > >Any notes you can send would be great. Naomi's >father's story isn't attached so can your resend but >not via the list? Any notes if you have time to send >them snail mail can be sent to 2/197 Breton St Coopers >Plains Qld 4108. > >So far my preliminary research shows that >approximnately 4800 Germans were interned in World War >I of which 4600 were Australian residents or citizens. > In World War II the figure was only 400 so the >practice was not as extensive. It seems in World War >II the focus was more on Community leaders that they >could make an example of as a warning. > >Apparently, the legislation that allowed the >internment of "enemy aliens" in World War I and >additional legislation that was passed in World War II >has never been repealed and could be used today to >prison people from countries with which we are at war >e.g Arabs. I actually think it is scary > >Regards > >Chris >--- Lorrae <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>Chris, >>First of all this story fascinates me. I have had a >>plan to write a story on >>the internments from the perspective of the >>individuals and their >>descendants. I have gathered a reasonable amount of >>material but the project >>is about ten years away and by then I probably won't >>be here. >>The attached story is about Naomi's father. I have >>the file here and can >>send it to you by snail mail if you want it. It does >>not say much more than >>what I have written. >>I will try to find the notes that I have gathered >>over a time if you want >>them. >>I recently got some information on the internment of >>pastor Gutekunst but it >>si incomplete at this stage. >>Albert Grulke >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On >>Behalf Of Chris Schmidt >>Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2008 2:50 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Germans in Australia >>1914-1946- Research I am doing >> >>Hi >> >>I am writing a book on the history of Germans in >>Australia during World War I and II and the period >>between the wars. This is a project that I expect to >>take quite a while to complete- probably as long as >>five years at the rate I get time to pursue the >>things >>I am interested in! >> >>Naturally, the whole issue of internment comes into >>this and I am interested in hearing from anyone with >>personal stories to relate who remember or have >>information on relatives that were interned. I would >>also be interested in speaking to anyone still >>living >>who has memory of these years and can relate their >>experiences or maybe there is someone who still has >>relatives alive that were interned. Because, it can >>start to get a little off topic, and can raise >>dissension, it would be best to provide info off >>list. >>I am also interested in hearing people's current >>opinions- and the reasons for them- on the issue of >>internment. >> >>One of the reasons given for internment was the >>supposed lack of loyalty of the Germans and those of >>German descent. For example, I have seen it written >>that a lot of Germans stated that they did not want >>their sons serving in an English war where they >>would >>meet their cousins still in Germany on the battle >>field. I intend to present the other side of the >>story- that despite first generation Australians not >>being permitted to serve- many did serve and with >>honour. >> >>As an introduction, I will also be giving an >>overview >>of German immigration to Australia, and when, where >>and why they came and their contribution and >>Australian attitudes up until then. The book will >>then conclude with a summary of what has happened >>sense. I know many people I have spoken to tell of >>really negative attitudes and the association of >>all >>Germans with Nazi until recently. >> >>Any help with any information- off list- would be >>appreciated. Personal stories can be included in >>the >>book anonymously or with credit. >> >>I look forward to people's responses! >> >>Regards >> >>Chris >> >> A List for the research for the descendants of the >>Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, >>Australia. >> Archives - >> >> >> >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > > >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >>to [email protected] with the >>word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject >>and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > > Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. >www.yahoo7.com.au/y7mail > > > A List for the research for the descendants of the Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, Australia. > Archives - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Hi Jenny I noticed your posting to the South-East Qld list. What happened to your grandfather? I would be most interested in the story. Regards Chris --- Jenny Myers <[email protected]> wrote: > I would also like to contact Chris with information > from my husband's MEYER > /MYERS grandfather's Naturalisation of 1916 as a 70 > yr old and had been in > the Colony since 1855. > > He had been organiser of the local gun and shooting > club and as a result had > to resign from his position. > > Regards > Jenny > > A List for the research for the descendants of the > Germans who migrated to South East Queensland, > Australia. > Archives - > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. www.yahoo7.com.au/y7mail

Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of the surnames NEWE or SERKR living in Australia having emigrated from Germany around 1877. Thank you. Patricia

I would also like to contact Chris with information from my husband's MEYER /MYERS grandfather's Naturalisation of 1916 as a 70 yr old and had been in the Colony since 1855. He had been organiser of the local gun and shooting club and as a result had to resign from his position. Regards Jenny

Can Chris please contact me as I have something for him? Albert Grulke

Chris, First of all this story fascinates me. I have had a plan to write a story on the internments from the perspective of the individuals and their descendants. I have gathered a reasonable amount of material but the project is about ten years away and by then I probably won't be here. The attached story is about Naomi's father. I have the file here and can send it to you by snail mail if you want it. It does not say much more than what I have written. I will try to find the notes that I have gathered over a time if you want them. I recently got some information on the internment of pastor Gutekunst but it si incomplete at this stage. Albert Grulke -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Schmidt Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2008 2:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SEQ-Germans] Germans in Australia 1914-1946- Research I am doing Hi I am writing a book on the history of Germans in Australia during World War I and II and the period between the wars. This is a project that I expect to take quite a while to complete- probably as long as five years at the rate I get time to pursue the things I am interested in! Naturally, the whole issue of internment comes into this and I am interested in hearing from anyone with personal stories to relate who remember or have information on relatives that were interned. I would also be interested in speaking to anyone still living who has memory of these years and can relate their experiences or maybe there is someone who still has relatives alive that were interned. Because, it can start to get a little off topic, and can raise dissension, it would be best to provide info off list. I am also interested in hearing people's current opinions- and the reasons for them- on the issue of internment. One of the reasons given for internment was the supposed lack of loyalty of the Germans and those of German descent. For example, I have seen it written that a lot of Germans stated that they did not want their sons serving in an English war where they would meet their cousins still in Germany on the battle field. I intend to present the other side of the story- that despite first generation Australians not being permitted to serve- many did serve and with honour. As an introduction, I will also be giving an overview of German immigration to Australia, and when, where and why they came and their contribution and Australian attitudes up until then. The book will then conclude with a summary of what has happened sense. I know many people I have spoken to tell of really negative attitudes and the association of all Germans with Nazi until recently. Any help with any information- off list- would be appreciated. Personal stories can be included in the book anonymously or with credit. I look forward to people's responses! Regards Chris

Hi Folks Gaylene has sent me the Birth Certificate for August - the son of Carl KUNDE and Henrietta MOLLAN. If you want me to send you this certificate, will you please email me direct with the above subject line, and I will reply with the attachment. [email protected] Gaylene sent it to the list, but the list does not support attachments, so I will send on for her. Thanks Gaylene Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich

Hi Folks I have two emails over size that can not be sent to the list. Can you please delete the old emails, especially the part that does not relate to your email. The replies to replies can get very longand too big for the mailing list. Please check and resend it needed. Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich

Some time ago, a woman contacted me re. the ROSENTHAL surname on the Darling Downs, Qld. Unfortunately, I no longer have this person's name, e-mail address, etc. However, on the off-chance that she is still 'lurking' on this List, I recently came across the following: Baptisms performed by a Father BURTON (Roman Catholic): ROSENTHAL, Hannah bap. 30 August 1900 Southbrook (near Toowoomba) ROSENTHAL, Margarte Mary bap. 25 March 1901 Southbrook (near Toowoomba) Details are held by the Genealogical Society of Queensland (GSQ). Rgs Lisa Gladstone, Q _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT