Thanks all, you have provided me with an outstanding knowledge base. I am being educated by a wonderful group of people. Chris Horgan Kerry Raymond wrote: > Civil registration of births, deaths and marriages didn't commence until > 1856 (from memory) so prior to that there were just church records of > baptisms, marriages, and burials. > > With the move to civil registration, it seems like a good idea to collect up > the church records as the best approximation to BDM records for the earlier > years. > > So what you are seeing is the *church* registration of a marriage. I am > guessing that 1850+51 is the date on the register (or page in the register) > in which the marriage appeared. And the year of registration 1854 is exactly > what it is says ... the year the *government* recorded details of the > marriage (presumably extracted from the church register). Now normally the > year of registration is the same as the year the event took place, but there > are some common exceptions: > > * events in late December are often not registered until the following year > * deaths in WW1 of Queenslanders overseas were added to the Qld death index > in 1922 (so the year of registration is 1922, even though the death may have > occurred in 1917). > * parents who forget to register their children at birth but do so years > later (you often see the code "LR" late registration in these cases) > * parents who forget to register their children at birth but the govt > notices the birth through other records (e.g. hospital or midwife) -- > usually you see "MB" memorandum birth on these. > > County of Stanley. Like the UK, we have counties in Australia, which in turn > are divided into parishes (these are "civil" parishes as distinct to church > parishes). However, for everyday purposes, counties and parishes no longer > exist. Most people only realise they exist when they buy house/land as the > "real property description" on the title of their land will be described in > terms of counties and parishes. Personally, I live in the suburb of Chapel > Hill, which is in the Parish of Indooroopilly, County of Stanley. But trying > giving that address to a taxi driver :-) > > However, in the early years, the use of County of Stanley for the area of > modern Brisbane (more or less) and County of Cumberland for the area of > modern Sydney (more or less) were still in everyday use. My > great-great-grandmother declared on her marriage certificate in the 1860s > that she was born in 1840s in Cumberland (without any mention of Sydney!) -- > it took me a while to work out that she didn't mean Cumberland in the UK. > > Kerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-qld-brisbane-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-qld-brisbane-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of chris.horgan > Sent: Wednesday, 3 June 2009 4:35 PM > To: aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Marriage Certificate > > Hi Listeners > > I have just received the contents of a marriage certificate from > Queensland BDM with the following information: > > *Wesleyan Marriages solemnized in the parish of Moreton Bay in the > County of Stanley , New South Wales, in the years 1850+51. > They both declared they were both members of the Wesleyan Methodist > Church. > John Phillips of Sydney and Martha Davis of Brisbane were married on > the 13th December 1851 at Brisbane. > Witnesses - James Sutherland & Mark Crabtree. > Minister - John Waterford.* > Can someone plese tell me why Morton Bay, County of Stanley was part of > NSW. and what do the years 1850+51 represent. > On Queensland BDM the marriage year is 1854, > > Thanks > > Chris Horgan > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >