HI BRISBANE LISTERS ,JUST POSTING A NAME "SHIELS" JUST IN CASE SOME ONE RECOGNIZES A NAME OR 2 , I HAD AN UNCLE ROY SHIELS ! KILLED NEW GUINEA WW2 ALL THE BEST TERRY MURPHY

I am seeking descendants of (or/and information about) my maternal grandfather's family. Arthur COOK came from Minster Lovell, Oxfordshire to Sydney in the late 1800s. Then I discovered by chance last year that his brother Albert Edmund COOK came to Brisbane, marrying there in 1903 to Lydia YOUNG, and dying in 1925. I think they only had one son, same name as his father, who possibly did not marry himself. Albert (snr) was a french polisher & lived in the Sherwood area. I have now discovered, via one of the immigration websites, that Arthur & Albert's father (Edmund) & other siblings (Alice & James) probably came to Brisbane too (see below) - and possibly Arthur himself (on a separate voyage). The mother died in 1878 back in England, and we could never find what happened to the rest of the family after the 1881 census, till this. We have plenty of details of the family back in Oxfordshire, and - of course - of my own grandfather's life here in Sydney. This is what I have found: Family Name / Given Name / Age / Ship / Date / Location/ Page/ M'f no. COOK, Albert, 15, Duke of Westminster, 21 Aug 1883 IMM/118 218 M1699 COOK, Alice, 17, Duke of Westminster, 21 Aug 1883 IMM/118 218 M1699 COOK, Edward, 44, Duke of Westminster, 21 Aug 1883 IMM/118 218 M1699 COOK, James, 9, Duke of Westminster, 21 Aug 1883 IMM/118 218 M1699 Edmund has been misspelled as Edward (not surprising). His age is only out by a year or two. He was a baker in England. Albert, Alice & James's ages are correct. So it seems to be the correct family - too many coincidences! There is one other COOK on that voyage, but an unknown name to me - Charles COOK, age 21. Then there is Arthur - COOK Arthur 19 Silver Eagle 7 Jun 1882 IMM/116 785 M1698 This could be Arthur, if he came out separately (a year before the others, and on a different ship). He could have lived in Brisbane for a while, and then moved to Sydney. He married Minnie Elizabeth SATTLER in Sydney in 1909. I will be checking the above microfilms (& BDM indexes, and electoral rolls) the next opportunity I get, at State Library, Sydney, but if anyone has a link to any of these people, I would be VERY happy to hear from them!! Thank you Judy Dickinson Sydney

Dear List, I have been a passive member for some time and have picked up many ideas. However today I have 2 specific request. * My family, the Coopers, arrived on board the Jumna to Brisbane on Sept 18 1887. I am interested in learning about what the migrants had to do before finding out about their land grants. Did they have to be checked for diseases, was there designated places they had to stay on the first night, were they provided with assistance to reach their land allocation. My family I know went to Burpengary, but it intrigues me as to how they could do so with 7 children and belongings etc Did the newspapers of the day report ship arrivals? * Secondly another family, the Burys, arrived on 13 October 1881also arrived on board the Jumna. At this stage there was no connection between them. John and Mary Anne aBury arrived wirh daughters Mary Ann and Jean. A third daughter Mabel Agnes was born later in 1890. John was listed as a gardener and they lived at Fernberg Road ,Rosalie * On August 6th 1896 Mry Ann Bury (widow) married Alfred John Cooper. We are unable to find any death records for John Bury. Is anybody able to assist or lead me in a direction. Cheers Helen Cooper ********************************************************************** This e-mail (including all attachments) is intended solely for the named addressee/s and may contain confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete it from your computer system and destroy any copies. This e-mail is subject to copyright. Any unauthorised disclosure, modification or distribution is expressly prohibited. Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this e-mail do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of Brisbane Catholic Education. Brisbane Catholic Education gives no warranties that this e-mail is free from computer viruses or other defects. Except for responsibilities implied by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane Catholic Education, its employees and agents will not be responsible for any loss, damage or consequence arising from this e-mail.

Thankyou very much for the information, Now how do I get a Queensland Death Certificate? Seeing that I have had some luck here perhaps the rest of the family are in Qld. Amy Francis Roberts m. George Brown possibly lived Aramac, Emerald or Barcaldine. and the children of Henry ROBERTS and Emily Brown Alfred Clarence Amy Florence Elsie Emily Ellen died age 16?? Henry William died 1920 Muriel Harriett Violet Roberts may have died as an infant and Sylvia Gladys Margaret Stickland ----- Original Message ----- From: "june pickering" <march63june@yahoo.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [AQ-BRISBANE] DRAPER > Hi Margaret, > I think this could be her. Not much info, > but a death certificate might say how many children > and wether George predeceased her. There are a lot of > George Brown's on the fiche. > > BROWN Harriet died: 3/8/1929. ref: 1929/B008471. > Father: BARNES. No Mother. > > June. > > > --- Keith Stickland <lucedw@ncable.net.au> wrote: > > > Hello Could I have a look up done please. It is a > > long shot I am looking for > > a death of Harriet Bond Brown she was born 1853 so > > may have died as late as > > 1926,her parents were Mark Barnes and Elizabeth nee > > Bond, her husband is > > George Brown and as I have no parents for him or his > > birth certificate I > > have no other point of reference for him.It could > > well be that they both > > died in N.S.W. If you can help I would appreciate it > > Cheers > > > > Margaret Stickland > > Belmont Geelong > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi Margaret, I think this could be her. Not much info, but a death certificate might say how many children and wether George predeceased her. There are a lot of George Brown's on the fiche. BROWN Harriet died: 3/8/1929. ref: 1929/B008471. Father: BARNES. No Mother. June. --- Keith Stickland <lucedw@ncable.net.au> wrote: > Hello Could I have a look up done please. It is a > long shot I am looking for > a death of Harriet Bond Brown she was born 1853 so > may have died as late as > 1926,her parents were Mark Barnes and Elizabeth nee > Bond, her husband is > George Brown and as I have no parents for him or his > birth certificate I > have no other point of reference for him.It could > well be that they both > died in N.S.W. If you can help I would appreciate it > Cheers > > Margaret Stickland > Belmont Geelong Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Alma, That should have been I have the QLD deaths to 1959. June. --- june pickering <march63june@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > Hello Alma, > This is all I could find on the Pioneer > and > Federation BDM CD's. They may have been married > before > they came out to QLD. I could not find a death for > Naomi up to 1914. I have the QLD deaths to 1915 if > you > would like me to look for deaths for her and any > other > children. > > DRAPER William died: 18/1/1881. ref: 1881/B013893. > Father: Bourne Hall DRAPER. Mother: Naomi SMITH. > > DRAPER Bourne Hall died: 29/11/1913. ref: > 1913/B018604. Father: William DRAPER. mother: > Charlotte Augustus SCOTT. > > Sincerely, > June. > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

> Hello I have a Henry Thomas Richard Roberts buried in the South Brisbane > Cemetery on the 23 August 1917. Where can I find the location of the grave > and who else may be in the grave? The Brisbane City Council Grave Location Search http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/BCC:STANDARD::pp=PC_897,pc=PC_899 reveals that he is buried with Henry W Roberts who was buried on 4 Oct 1920. They are buried in Portion 9A grave 538. If you use the WWW site yourself, you will also see a map showing the approximate location or a detailed map (click the radio buttons). Just FYI, South Brisbane cemetery is commonly known as Dutton Park cemetery. Kerry

Hello I have a Henry Thomas Richard Roberts buried in the South Brisbane Cemetery on the 23 August 1917. Where can I find the location of the grave and who else may be in the grave? Margaret Stickland Belmont Geelong

Hello Could I have a look up done please. It is a long shot I am looking for a death of Harriet Bond Brown she was born 1853 so may have died as late as 1926,her parents were Mark Barnes and Elizabeth nee Bond, her husband is George Brown and as I have no parents for him or his birth certificate I have no other point of reference for him.It could well be that they both died in N.S.W. If you can help I would appreciate it Cheers Margaret Stickland Belmont Geelong ----- Original Message ----- From: "june pickering" <march63june@yahoo.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [AQ-BRISBANE] DRAPER > Hello Alma, > This is all I could find on the Pioneer and > Federation BDM CD's. They may have been married before > they came out to QLD. I could not find a death for > Naomi up to 1914. I have the QLD deaths to 1915 if you > would like me to look for deaths for her and any other > children. > > DRAPER William died: 18/1/1881. ref: 1881/B013893. > Father: Bourne Hall DRAPER. Mother: Naomi SMITH. > > DRAPER Bourne Hall died: 29/11/1913. ref: > 1913/B018604. Father: William DRAPER. mother: > Charlotte Augustus SCOTT. > > Sincerely, > June. > > > --- Alma Draper <adraper@eagle.ca> wrote: > > > Hi Listers > > > > I am looking for information on BOURNE HALL DRAPER > > who was born in 1841 in > > England. He is listed in the Old Age Pension > > Queensland listings of > > 1908-1909. Other than that I only have the > > information of when he left > > England with his parents and siblings in 1862. > > > > > > > > If anyone is connected to B.H. Draper I would be > > very happy to hear from > > them or from someone who could suggest where I can > > find more information on > > him. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > Alma Draper > > > > Cobourg, Ontario > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe, send message to: > > L List Aus-Qld-Brisbane-l-request@rootsweb.com > > or > > D List Aus-Qld-Brisbane-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death > > Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > New Site Scattered Ashes > www.scatteredashes.net > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Hello Alma, This is all I could find on the Pioneer and Federation BDM CD's. They may have been married before they came out to QLD. I could not find a death for Naomi up to 1914. I have the QLD deaths to 1915 if you would like me to look for deaths for her and any other children. DRAPER William died: 18/1/1881. ref: 1881/B013893. Father: Bourne Hall DRAPER. Mother: Naomi SMITH. DRAPER Bourne Hall died: 29/11/1913. ref: 1913/B018604. Father: William DRAPER. mother: Charlotte Augustus SCOTT. Sincerely, June. --- Alma Draper <adraper@eagle.ca> wrote: > Hi Listers > > I am looking for information on BOURNE HALL DRAPER > who was born in 1841 in > England. He is listed in the Old Age Pension > Queensland listings of > 1908-1909. Other than that I only have the > information of when he left > England with his parents and siblings in 1862. > > > > If anyone is connected to B.H. Draper I would be > very happy to hear from > them or from someone who could suggest where I can > find more information on > him. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Alma Draper > > Cobourg, Ontario > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send message to: > L List Aus-Qld-Brisbane-l-request@rootsweb.com > or > D List Aus-Qld-Brisbane-d-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death > Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Hello again Listers! Many thanks to Bob Dunbar and June Pickering for their help with the Draper family name. Below is what I have on the Drapers after they left England. William Draper was born in 1818 in London, England. He emigrated on 1 Nov 1862 from London, England to Brisbane, Australia on the Wanata with his wife and children. He died on 18 Jan 1881 in Australia. Father Bourne Hall Draper and Mother: Naomi Smith William Draper and Augusta Susan (Charlotte) Scott were married in Dec 1840 in Southampton, England. Children: Bourne Hall Draper born in 1841 in England. He died on 29 Nov 1913 in Queensland, Australia. Mary Jane Draper born in Jun 1843 Basingstoke, England. Married Robert HARDGRAVE Naomi Draper born in Dec 1845 Basingstoke. Married John Henry REYNOLDS Susan Draper born in 1847 Basingstoke. Married Thomas Peddington LUCAS Augusta Draper born in 1851, England. Married George White BARRYMORE William Draper (born on 12 May 1856). The marriages above all took place in Australia. The trail goes cold except for William Draper b. 1856. (This is my husband's direct line) Look forward to hearing from anyone who can add to this family. Many thanks. Alma Draper from Hot and Humid Cobourg, Ontario

Hi Listers I am looking for information on BOURNE HALL DRAPER who was born in 1841 in England. He is listed in the Old Age Pension Queensland listings of 1908-1909. Other than that I only have the information of when he left England with his parents and siblings in 1862. If anyone is connected to B.H. Draper I would be very happy to hear from them or from someone who could suggest where I can find more information on him. Thanks in advance. Alma Draper Cobourg, Ontario

New to our collection of photos-and-names for small cemeteries around Brisbane: * Bethania Lutheran (Gold_Coast) * Bethel Lutheran Cemetery, Logan Reserve (Logan City) We believe that both of these cemeteries are associated with the Bethania Lutheran Church. We also have a few photos of some memorial plaques we spotted as we were out and about: * Camp Cable Monument, Beaudesert * John Nevell Memorial Park (Beaudesert) You can find our photos of cemeteries, columbarium walls and other memorial plaques at: www.ChapelHill.homeip.net/FamilyHistory/Photos/ You can find our war memorial photos at: www.ChapelHill.homeip.net/FamilyHistory/Other/WarMemorials/ Please send in suggestions for small cemeteries or columbarium walls or any other places with memorials in the Brisbane area that we can include in our site. Check the WWW pages above to see the ones we have already done or are works in progress. Kerry Raymond & David Horton

Kerry, I just want to say that I emailled Nudgee Cemetery. I was given all available info on my brother's burial, by a most courteous and helpful Manager, David Molloy. Thanks for posting Nudgee Cemetery details, Kerry. Dawn Quinlan .

I am trying to find the death and cremation/burial records of Sylvia Henrietta MURCH (nee JOHANSEN) who was born in New Zealand in 1897 to Norwegian immigrants Martin Joseph JOHANSEN and Anne Louisa AMUNDSEN. Have an unconfirmed death date of 28 Nov 1975 for Sylvia. Sylvia appears to have died, and been cremated/buried in Australia. Last known address was Brisbane (1970). Other information: She married Henry Charles MURCH on 15 Jul 1920 at St.John's Church, Ohakune, New Zealand. Two children: Zita MURCH b. c 1921 (registered at Te Awamutu, NZ) and Jack Henry Francis MURCH bn c 1927 (Greymouth, NZ) Thanks. Pip -- Norsewood Cemetery & Settlers' Genealogies Project www.norsewoodcemetery.co.nz PO Box 4307 Palmerston North NEW ZEALAND

Hi to the list. Reposting my name interest again. My gt grandfather, John Morris, states on his documentation that he was born Brisbane and his parent lived in Brisbane. His birth year was abt 1860 (writing without referring to files). I have found no record of his birth , nor a marriage for his parents, nor any other children born to a George Morris and Mary (Ann) Paterson. I have found no death for a Mary or Maryann Morris who might be the right age. John married in Warwick to a Mary Sussanah Sales or Sussanah Mary Sales, depending on what documents I look at. Does anyone have any of this names or any ideas as to what I could possibly do next? Glenda

Hello Listers I am searching for a marriage of Georgina McSKIMMING and Oliver Charles WHITELAW, I think they were married at COOLANGATTA about 1927-1931. Could SKS in the area look at the marriage records please. Thank you in advance. Jenette Bendigo Victoria

G'day Cobbers, Have some information on my McLEAN ancestry on my homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS Below is part of an email from a third cousin of mine, recently "discovered", which relates to the GRANT surname: "Yes this Bella (McLEAN) is the one we are interested in. She is the daughter of Charles McLean and Elspet Dean hence my mother's aunt. She married David Grant and they had one daughter also called Bella. It was she who went to Australia about 1949ish but she was married by then and as yet I have not found her married name. A couple of years later her parents Bella and David followed her out and remained there where they presumably died. I have no idea where they settled but I believe most emigrants then went to Melbourne and Sydney. Bella Grant may still be alive and would be about 84 yrs old now. No 34 Royston Mains Crescent Edinburgh, where Elspet Dean died was the home of Charles McLean and Marjory Wilson {my mothers parents} and Elspet Dean lived with them for the last 3 years of her life. Previously to this she lived at 10 Caledonian Crescent Edinburgh. Royston Mains Crescent was also where my parents lived when I was born so was my first home." Is anybody able to assist me with the surname of Bella GRANT's husband. I am trying to trace this family in Australia but need Bella's married name. Look forward to hearing from any McLEAN relatives. Regards Greg Baldwin Dip.BusStud(Acc) CIT BBus (Comp) Deakin Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au

Hi Jenette, Here is the marriage: WHITELAW Olly Charles married MCSKIMMING Georgina Irving 23/2/1928 ref: 28/B002980 Unfortunately the indexes don't give where in Queensland they married - however the B in the reference means that they married within the Brisbane area. Therefore they definitely didn't marry in Coolangatta. Regards Werona -----Original Message----- From: JENETTE [mailto:kkfblpl@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:47 PM To: AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AQ-BRISBANE] McSKIMMING-WHITELAW MARRIAGE Hello Listers I am searching for a marriage of Georgina McSKIMMING and Oliver Charles WHITELAW, I think they were married at COOLANGATTA about 1927-1931. Could SKS in the area look at the marriage records please. Thank you in advance. Jenette Bendigo Victoria ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== Toowoomba Dead Persons Society www.audps.com ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Hello I am new to this list and I am looking for the Roberts Family who arrived 1873 aboard " g;Gloucester" to Maryborough Queensland. Their first child Henry Thomas Richard was born May 1874 at Illawarra Plantation. Can anyone tell me what this was? This family married into Brown, McKneight and Wheeler families for the girls the men - Henry Iknow a little about (this is the family I am connected with) and George died at birth one month in 1879. Hello anyone researching the family of Amy Francis Roberts b. Fortitude Valley 1879 m. ? Brown Margaret Stickland Belmont Geelong