Hello Pat, I have a James Paul QUIRK, born 1879, marrying Florence CUPITT in 1915. Not sure if this couple was even in Qld, but Florence's brother died in Brisbane, so...maybe. Any connection? Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Tunny " <twotees@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 10:59 PM Subject: [AQ-BRISBANE] QUIRK > QUIRK - Queensland - Australia - Ireland > > Patrick Quirk born Kerry, Ire 1833 came to Australia @ 1858 & settled In > Rosewood near Ipswich Qld. > > Thanks > >

QUIRK - Queensland - Australia - Ireland Patrick Quirk born Kerry, Ire 1833 came to Australia @ 1858 & settled In Rosewood near Ipswich Qld. Thanks

Thanks Carol. I am not sure if these fit into the family but it's good to find new sites. Thanks for your help. Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Wood" <carolw@tadaust.org.au> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [AQ-BRISBANE] John DAVIDSON and the Railways > Hi Rosemary, > > This is from a Brisbane City Council Cemetery search > > Grave Location Search > Name Sex Burial Date Age > Davidson Edgar Churchill M 11 / 10 / 1965 78 years > Davidson Neil C NR* 16 / 07 / 1943 13 years > Davidson Minnie Agnes ? F 17 / 09 / 1968 78 years > > Brisbane City Council records show that more than one individual is buried > in this grave. Their details are shown above. > > * NR indicates that Brisbane City Council has no record of the sex of this > individual. > > Cemetery Details > Cemetery: South Brisbane Cemetery > Street Address: 181 Annerley Rd, Dutton Park > UBD Ref: Map 179 P4 > Portion Grave Number > T 381 > > Carol Wood > Brisbane Qld Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rosemary Davidson" <muttsie@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:23 PM > Subject: [AQ-BRISBANE] John DAVIDSON and the Railways > > > > Dear Listers > > > > I am trying to find further information on John DAVIDSON of Clarendon > > Street > > East Brisbane, who, at the time of his enlistment in 1917 was employed by > > the Railways, and served in a 'Railway Unit, and Reinforcemnts and Special > > Draft'. He was a Private, number 1437, and with the 4th A.B.G.R.O.C. - > > broad gauge railway. On his return from overseas in July 1919 did he > > return > > to the Railways? Can SKS point me in the right direction or offer any > > information please? He married Minnie Ruth MASSAM in 1922 and had 4 > > known > > children - Marjorie Helen, Robert, John and Eric James. Death and > > burial > > place of John and Minnie unknown. Whereabouts of any descendants would > > also > > be appreciated. > > > > Thanks for all the wonderful help received so far. > > > > Rosie in very cold Hobart, Tassie. > > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > > Scattered Ashes > > www.scatteredashes.com > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi Rosemary, The URL for the Brisbane City Council website grave searches is http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/ Carol Wood Brisbane Qld Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemary Davidson" <muttsie@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:23 PM Subject: [AQ-BRISBANE] John DAVIDSON and the Railways > Dear Listers > > I am trying to find further information on John DAVIDSON of Clarendon > Street > East Brisbane, who, at the time of his enlistment in 1917 was employed by > the Railways, and served in a 'Railway Unit, and Reinforcemnts and Special > Draft'. He was a Private, number 1437, and with the 4th A.B.G.R.O.C. - > broad gauge railway. On his return from overseas in July 1919 did he > return > to the Railways? Can SKS point me in the right direction or offer any > information please? He married Minnie Ruth MASSAM in 1922 and had 4 > known > children - Marjorie Helen, Robert, John and Eric James. Death and > burial > place of John and Minnie unknown. Whereabouts of any descendants would > also > be appreciated. > > Thanks for all the wonderful help received so far. > > Rosie in very cold Hobart, Tassie. > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > Scattered Ashes > www.scatteredashes.com > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Hi Rosemary, This is from a Brisbane City Council Cemetery search Grave Location Search Name Sex Burial Date Age Davidson Edgar Churchill M 11 / 10 / 1965 78 years Davidson Neil C NR* 16 / 07 / 1943 13 years Davidson Minnie Agnes ? F 17 / 09 / 1968 78 years Brisbane City Council records show that more than one individual is buried in this grave. Their details are shown above. * NR indicates that Brisbane City Council has no record of the sex of this individual. Cemetery Details Cemetery: South Brisbane Cemetery Street Address: 181 Annerley Rd, Dutton Park UBD Ref: Map 179 P4 Portion Grave Number T 381 Carol Wood Brisbane Qld Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemary Davidson" <muttsie@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:23 PM Subject: [AQ-BRISBANE] John DAVIDSON and the Railways > Dear Listers > > I am trying to find further information on John DAVIDSON of Clarendon > Street > East Brisbane, who, at the time of his enlistment in 1917 was employed by > the Railways, and served in a 'Railway Unit, and Reinforcemnts and Special > Draft'. He was a Private, number 1437, and with the 4th A.B.G.R.O.C. - > broad gauge railway. On his return from overseas in July 1919 did he > return > to the Railways? Can SKS point me in the right direction or offer any > information please? He married Minnie Ruth MASSAM in 1922 and had 4 > known > children - Marjorie Helen, Robert, John and Eric James. Death and > burial > place of John and Minnie unknown. Whereabouts of any descendants would > also > be appreciated. > > Thanks for all the wonderful help received so far. > > Rosie in very cold Hobart, Tassie. > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > Scattered Ashes > www.scatteredashes.com > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

I am researching the Kirkwood Family Tree and was wondering if anyone out there can help with this missing link. William Kirkwood was a Dr at the Drayton Hospital, Toowoomba between 1920-1940. He may have later on gone into Private Practice in either Qld or NSW. Apparently the Drayton Hospital, Toowoomba burnt down and with it went their records. Can anyone shed some light on this line that is missing in my tree. Cheers Annie

H ,ta for the help Werona never knew the baby died hey ,so all I have to do is find the cty ,Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Werona Armstrong" <werona@bacchus.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: RE: [AQ-BRISBANE] searching 'Lucas" > Hi Terry, > > LUCAS Alice birth F: Benjamin Charles M: Alice Louisa COWEN 1/4/1914 > (1914/001646) > > LUCAS Alice death F: Benjamin Charles LUCAS M: Alice Louisa COWEN 3/4/1914 > (1914/000474) > > LUCAS Benjamin Clement married COWEN Alice Louisa 28/12/1912 (1913/B012761) > > I could not find any more births 1915-1919. > > Regards > Werona > > -----Original Message----- > From: terry [mailto:winter@qldnet.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:03 AM > To: AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AQ-BRISBANE] searching 'Lucas" > > Hi listers , I am trying to fill some missing links in the tree branches ,I > have a line who lived once at Buderim Mt Rd Woombye ,the family where , > Alice + Ben Lucas I think they also had a girl "Alice" born circa 1914 ,this > line was also linked to the names Cowen + Nonmus ,Cheers Terry Murphy > ,Kallangur. > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > Legacy Family Tree is now FREE! Download this highly acclaimed > full-featured genealogy program today at > http://www.audps.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Dear Listers I am trying to find further information on John DAVIDSON of Clarendon Street East Brisbane, who, at the time of his enlistment in 1917 was employed by the Railways, and served in a 'Railway Unit, and Reinforcemnts and Special Draft'. He was a Private, number 1437, and with the 4th A.B.G.R.O.C. - broad gauge railway. On his return from overseas in July 1919 did he return to the Railways? Can SKS point me in the right direction or offer any information please? He married Minnie Ruth MASSAM in 1922 and had 4 known children - Marjorie Helen, Robert, John and Eric James. Death and burial place of John and Minnie unknown. Whereabouts of any descendants would also be appreciated. Thanks for all the wonderful help received so far. Rosie in very cold Hobart, Tassie.

Hi Pamela,just found your mail re Merkara. You might be able to get some satisfaction from searching these. In www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=10462 you will find much info on its particulars. There is also a photo in Qld State Library. the image number is 7456; also 55978. Hope this helps. cheers Evelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "pamela" <pamelah@northrock.bm> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:49 AM Subject: [AQ-BRISBANE] WILLIAM VENN-BRISBANE IMMIGRATION >I am new to this list as well as new to Australian research. > > An ancestor, WILLIAM VENN & family sailed to Queensland 1883 via the > MERKARA. > > WILLIAM VENN, wife MARY and 2-year old daughter Eveline. The family were > from Plymouth, Devon. > > I was rather disappointed when receiving the ship's passenger list. I > expected some revelation - at least their destination address, his origin > and occupation . Guess I'm spoilt by the details of Ellis Island > immigration lists.... > > In any case, the only data given was "Asst. Brisbane" next to the name. > > 1. Can someone tell me exactly what ASST entailed? By whom and why? > > 2. Where might I proceed in finding about this family beyond arrival? > > 3. Are there BMD's on-line where I could check for Eveline's marriage > early 1900's? (I am in Bermuda and no LDS Ctr to utilise microfiche). > > I have gone on Queensland Family Research site and not found answers. > > Many thanks to anyone who can help or put me in the right direction > > pamela > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > Scattered Ashes > www.scatteredashes.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 19/05/2006 > >

Evelyn, Thanks for the link. However, a google Images search provided me with two fab photos of the old Merkara . One site of Merchant Navy Officers(below) gave more details of ship itself.. And the flag of the ship's line: British India Steam Navigation Co. which as you Aussies know had other ships plying the waters to your shores back then. cheers, pamela http://www.merchantnavyofficers.com/bistart.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn Harding" <emh_37@qld.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 3:37 AM Subject: Re: [AQ-BRISBANE] WILLIAM VENN-BRISBANE IMMIGRATION > Hi Pamela,just found your mail re Merkara. You might be able to get some > satisfaction from searching these. > > > In www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=10462 > you will find much info on its particulars. > > There is also a photo in Qld State Library. the image number is 7456; also > 55978. > Hope this helps. > cheers > Evelyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "pamela" <pamelah@northrock.bm> > To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:49 AM > Subject: [AQ-BRISBANE] WILLIAM VENN-BRISBANE IMMIGRATION > > > >I am new to this list as well as new to Australian research. > > > > An ancestor, WILLIAM VENN & family sailed to Queensland 1883 via the > > MERKARA. > > > > WILLIAM VENN, wife MARY and 2-year old daughter Eveline. The family were > > from Plymouth, Devon. > > > > I was rather disappointed when receiving the ship's passenger list. I > > expected some revelation - at least their destination address, his origin > > and occupation . Guess I'm spoilt by the details of Ellis Island > > immigration lists.... > > > > In any case, the only data given was "Asst. Brisbane" next to the name. > > > > 1. Can someone tell me exactly what ASST entailed? By whom and why? > > > > 2. Where might I proceed in finding about this family beyond arrival? > > > > 3. Are there BMD's on-line where I could check for Eveline's marriage > > early 1900's? (I am in Bermuda and no LDS Ctr to utilise microfiche). > > > > I have gone on Queensland Family Research site and not found answers. > > > > Many thanks to anyone who can help or put me in the right direction > > > > pamela > > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > > Scattered Ashes > > www.scatteredashes.com > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 19/05/2006 > > > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > Legacy Family Tree is now FREE! Download this highly acclaimed > full-featured genealogy program today at > http://www.audps.com > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.0.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.0/352 - Release Date: 5/30/2006 > >

Hi listers , I am trying to fill some missing links in the tree branches ,I have a line who lived once at Buderim Mt Rd Woombye ,the family where , Alice + Ben Lucas I think they also had a girl "Alice" born circa 1914 ,this line was also linked to the names Cowen + Nonmus ,Cheers Terry Murphy ,Kallangur.

Hi Terry, LUCAS Alice birth F: Benjamin Charles M: Alice Louisa COWEN 1/4/1914 (1914/001646) LUCAS Alice death F: Benjamin Charles LUCAS M: Alice Louisa COWEN 3/4/1914 (1914/000474) LUCAS Benjamin Clement married COWEN Alice Louisa 28/12/1912 (1913/B012761) I could not find any more births 1915-1919. Regards Werona -----Original Message----- From: terry [mailto:winter@qldnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:03 AM To: AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AQ-BRISBANE] searching 'Lucas" Hi listers , I am trying to fill some missing links in the tree branches ,I have a line who lived once at Buderim Mt Rd Woombye ,the family where , Alice + Ben Lucas I think they also had a girl "Alice" born circa 1914 ,this line was also linked to the names Cowen + Nonmus ,Cheers Terry Murphy ,Kallangur. ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== Toowoomba Dead Persons Society www.audps.com ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hi all, someone on the list made a mention of the above ship, but cannot find the mail, so will send what I have. In www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=10462 you will find much info on its particulars. There is also a photo in Qld State Library. the image number is 7456; also 55978. Hope this helps. cheers Evelyn

Thanks Werona, Sorry for the delay in response but had some computer troibles Regaeds Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Werona Armstrong" <werona@bacchus.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:58 AM Subject: RE: [AQ-BRISBANE] PATTERSONs At Clifton Qld. > Hi Bill, > > Not much to tell, but based on the children, the parents will be Richard > Henry PATTERSON and Julia Maria CHRISTENSEN and John Stewart PATTERSON and > Mary Ann IRVINE > > Richard & Julia married 8/8/1900 (1900/000580). No marriage for John & > Mary. > > Regards > Werona > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill and Lone [mailto:lone@tpg.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:13 PM > To: AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AQ-BRISBANE] PATTERSONs At Clifton Qld. > > Hi List, > while attempting to sort out PATTERSON burials at Clifton Cemetery I came > across a Richard H PATTERSON b. 1876 married to a Julia M PATTERSON > b.1877. > They appear to have had at least three sons, > John Gordon, b.1903, > Allan Richard b. 1907 and > Colin b.1907. > Allan Richard m.Meryl Beatrice (ERNST?) and then served in WW2 . > The cemetery burials and 1922 electoral Roll indicate that another > PATTERSON > couple - John Stewart b.1861 and Mary Ann b.1870 - were also raising a > family at Clifton. It is tempting to believe that the two families are > brothers. As there are no records of birth or marriage of the two original > couples it is thought that they may have immigrated. Appreciate any > assistance or look-ups that might clarify the situation. > > Cheers > > Bill in CAIRNS > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: Annette To: AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:44 PM Subject: "Rogers/Bishop" I am researching the Rogers/Bishop side of my Family Tree who were from QLD. Albert David John Rogers born December 2, 1891 QLD died December 9, 1977 Brisbane, QLD.Albert married Mary Ellen Bishop December 22, 1917 QLD. Mary Ellen was born January 24, 1898, Gympie, QLD and died October 19, 1982 Brisbane, QLD. They had one son John Hemsley Rogers born March 29, 1919, Brisbane, QLD and died January 17, 1999, Brisbane, QLD.John married Ann Nora May Robson after 1939 in QLD. They had two boys Robert and William. One of the boys married a lady by the name of Laurel whilst the other married a lady by the name of Majella. I am interested in making contact with any member of this family. Cheers Annie

Hi Bob well I could kiss you - I would definately settle for that. After researching for quite a few years and completely ignoring this person we thought (told) had died you've given me a new lease on life. I've searched and searched and can't thank you enough. 8 years broken down in one small email let me know if you'd like a look up from the British Vital records thanks again traceyp

Hi Tracey Would you settle for a marriage Between Edwin SIMPSON and Sophia STOUGROVE in the district of Parramatta NSW in 1888. (Reg No 4558/1888) Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "traceyp" <traceyp@ihug.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [AQ-BRISBANE] RE: looking for hep > Hi John > > It's her sister actually and as I can find no marriage record for Sophia > Slowgrove to one Edward/Edwin Simpson thought I might try QLD. > > Really starting to draw a blank with these Slowgrove's now - very very > frustrating > > thanks for your help > > traceyp > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > Scattered Ashes www.scatteredashes.com > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/346 - Release Date: 23/05/2006 > >

Hi ,thanks hey ,yep these are sisters and the Ethel married my G/dad long story here ! Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Werona Armstrong" <werona@bacchus.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [AQ-BRISBANE] RE RESEARCH > Hi Terry, > > From 1922: > > QFHSdatasearch Version 1.5.37 by Queensland Family History Society Inc. > From [Commonwealth Electoral Roll (Queensland) 1922] database on 5/24/2006 > ======================================================================= > No : 529 > Surname : COURTNEY > Given Names : Rachal Violet > Title : > Place of Living: Railway Hotel, Beaudesert > Occupation : home duties > Sex : Female > Subdivision : Beaudesert > Division : Moreton > ID : 287272 > > No other COURTNEY at this address, although there are a few others polling > in Beaudesert. > > Rachel Violet COURTNEY birth F: Nicholas M: Mary McGuinness 28/12/1890 > (1891/007596) > > Ethel COURTNEY birth F: Nicholas M: Mary McGuinness 3/11/1893 (1893/007182) > > Regards > Werona > > -----Original Message----- > From: terry [mailto:winter@qldnet.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:51 AM > To: AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AQ-BRISBANE] RE RESEARCH > > Hi Listers ,I am going over some family records etc, and the name 'Courtney > " is there ,does a " Rachael Courtney " who once worked the Railway Hotel at > Beaudesert ?circa 1922 ring any bells ,also my G/dad Dan Murphy married her > sister "Ethel " at St Mary,s 1911 would any one know if ? a local paper > would have displayed any wedding photos at that time ? both Racheal + Ethel > came from a large line , fingers X Terry Murphy > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > Scattered Ashes > www.scatteredashes.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > Legacy Family Tree is now FREE! Download this highly acclaimed > full-featured genealogy program today at > http://www.audps.com > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Hi John It's her sister actually and as I can find no marriage record for Sophia Slowgrove to one Edward/Edwin Simpson thought I might try QLD. Really starting to draw a blank with these Slowgrove's now - very very frustrating thanks for your help traceyp

Thank you so much Werona, we've just found this Sophia Slowgrove my mum's gt aunt who we strongly believed had died at a very early age actually lived and had about 4-5 children - amazing eh after 8 years of research regards TraceyP