Hi Marie. I found a Alfred Radcliffe Taylor born 22.5.1900 Mt. Morgan Qld in the National ARchives of Australia website. Link for Archives and click on search records. You will have to copy and paste links as I have to send these emails in plain text and not sure if you will be able to click on them http://www.naa.gov.au/the_collection/recordsearch.html He enlisted in WW2 in Rockhampton and his next of kin in Cecilia Taylor - There is also an Alfred Radcliffe Taylor B 15.6.1938 Rockhampton Qld Place of enlistment, Brisbane next of kin Rhonda Taylor You will notice a blue 'R' on the right hand bottom corner - view digital copy. You may find more info if you click on it. You will find Alfred Radcliffe Taylor next of kin Harriet Jane also has view digital copy. There is a George Taylor B 30/6/1896 Brisbane, place of enlistment is Sydney next of kin Mertle......you are also able to view this digital copy to see if this is the George you are looking for. (not much on this one though) Here is the link for WW2 nominal roll http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/name.asp#searchtabs This is a link to graves in Brisbane and suburbs. I cannot access this site at the moment but you may have more luck. http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/BCC:STANDARD:1550341693:pc=PC_899 Hope I have been some help, Cheers Hayley Perth West Oz. -------Original Message------- From: Marie Date: 23/09/2006 8:57:01 PM To: DPS \(QLD\) Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Re; Taylor's of Mt Morgan Hi everyone. I am wondering if there is someone out there that can help me. I am trying to find any information regarding the TAYLOR family. Alfred Radcliffe Taylor worked at the mines in Mt Morgan where he died from An accident in 1906. I am trying to find out any details of what happened To the children of his first marriage to Charlotte Ann (nee Fuller). Charlotte died in Kalgoorlie Western Australia in 1904. I do know that the four children went Back to Brisbane to live with their father Alfred who later married Charlotte's sister Harriet Jane. The children I am trying to find out about are: George Taylor B:1896 Herodias (Rhoda) Taylor B:1898 is my husband's mother. She died in 1951 Alfred Radcliffe Taylor B:1900 Charlotte Taylor B:1902 Also would love any help on Alfred's siblings: Philip George William Mary Their parents being Philip and Herodias (nee Smart) Taylor. Thank you for any assistance with the above. Regards Marie (Perth) Queensland Dead Persons Society Toowoomba www.audps.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone. I am wondering if there is someone out there that can help me. I am trying to find any information regarding the TAYLOR family. Alfred Radcliffe Taylor worked at the mines in Mt Morgan where he died from an accident in 1906. I am trying to find out any details of what happened to the children of his first marriage to Charlotte Ann (nee Fuller). Charlotte died in Kalgoorlie Western Australia in 1904. I do know that the four children went back to Brisbane to live with their father Alfred who later married Charlotte's sister Harriet Jane. The children I am trying to find out about are: George Taylor B:1896 Herodias (Rhoda) Taylor B:1898 is my husband's mother. She died in 1951 Alfred Radcliffe Taylor B:1900 Charlotte Taylor B:1902 Also would love any help on Alfred's siblings: Philip George William Mary Their parents being Philip and Herodias (nee Smart) Taylor. Thank you for any assistance with the above. Regards Marie (Perth)

hi im wondering if anyone out there is researching James Orr from Scotland he had 3 wives ...Mary Pattison...Eliza Williams nee Hume and Mary Robson would love to hear from anyone with info on this family thanks Michele __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hello from Melbourne. I attended Wilston State School in Brisbane, Grade 7 in 1946 and repeated in 1947. Does anyone have class photos for those years? I have their Centenary book which I found to be very disappointing. I hope that someone has photos, thank you Cheers, Bob Cunning

Hello from Melbourne. I attended Wilston State School, Grade 7 in 1946 and repeated in 1947. Does anyone have class photos for those years? I have their Centenary book which I found to be very disappointing. I hope that someone has photos, thank you Cheers, Bob Cunning

Hi All I'm searching for contact with or descendents of Reginald Joseph HINTON, born Qld 15/12/1910. He married Mavis Charlotte WARD on 10/5/1935 in Qld. Also Ronald Aubrey Thomas HINTON, born 28/9/1912 Qld. He married Thelma Bessie TOWNSEND on 31/12/1938 in Qld. Regards Jane and Doug Hinton Canberra

How about Home Hill in Qld. L ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Robinson" <tworobbos@net-tech.com.au> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] VARSELL and Home Hill > Hi Kay > > Thanks for your input and assistance. Your suggestion re Colquhoun is imaginative and one I certainly hadn't considered. However, Francis' Attestation Form when signing up for service clearly states that he was born in or near "Holmhill, Qld" (as opposed to the War Memorial site which shows "Holmeville") and as he had to sign the form I doubt that he would have failed to correct that if it was incorrect. > > Being resident myself at Bairnsdale (although not a native thereof) I am familiar with the regional geography. A number at attempts have been made to ascertain his origins including looking at all the available regional databases. > > In retrospect, I am coming to the conclusion that he may have deliberately concealed either his true identity or his place of birth. For what reason can only be guessed at. There are indications that Varsell is a name with Scandinavian origins and it may be that he was a seaman or other crew member who may have jumped ship. It may also be that there was something in his background that he wished to conceal and to do so he adopted a different name - although why such an uncommon one as Varsell can also only be guessed at. > > I have a copies of several letters attached to his WWII service record, presumably written in his own hand, which militate against a foreign background as the English is quite good. There is also the question of military service. The recruiting officer would surely have queried an Australian birthplace for anyone with a foreign accent. This would almost guarantee that he was an Australian. His occupation is shown as "Mechanic" which probably explains the Nowa Nowa connection as there were saw mills in the town and nearby. > > Production of a birth certificate was not a prerequisite for either enlistment or for marriage and as no record of his birth has been found that leads to the question of whether he was registered at birth or not and/or whether he changed identities for possibly ulterior motives. > > Another possibility is that he was an illegitimate child - many of that era concealed that fact. But then, how came he by the name Varsell and by whom was he brought up? Does Varsell appear in any other context in the Queensland records? A marriage of a single woman? A death somewhere? Criminal records? Orphanage records? > > > Confused? So am I! > > > the older of the tworobbos > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > Toowoomba www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.0.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 12-Sep-2006 > >

Tanks Kerry. That's a great start tks agn Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Raymond" <kerry.raymond@gmail.com> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Ward & OKeefe 1920 - 1945 Brisbane >> Are the Brisbane BMD available on line or CD or microfiche? > > See here for what's available and will be found in most family history > libraries. A number of people on this list have various combinations of > these resources (I have the CDs to 1914). > > http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/bdm/research.htm > >> Colleen WARD b1945 in Brisbane to Samuel Douglas WARD b.abt 1913 Brisbane >> and wife Mona Mary OKEEFE b.abt 1920 Brisbane. Te father of Samuel WARD >> is >> believed to be Samuel WARD, no further info. >> Parents of Mona are Gertrude Violet MORTIMER, no further info and Richard >> Vincent OKEEFE. > > Here is what I found in the BDMs up to 1914. (The B in the registration > number signifies Brisbane). > > Samuel's birth, his sister's birth and their parents marriage: > > Ward ,Samuel ,M ,Lind ,Georgina Mabel > ,1910-11-30 ,1910/B009501 > Ward ,Christina Mabel ,B ,Samuel ,Georgina Mabel Lind ,1911-09-25 > ,1911/B026616 > Ward ,Samuel Douglas ,B ,Samuel ,Georgina Mabel Lind ,1913-10-12 > ,1913/B033920 > > Now I found what *might* be Samuel's birth and parent's marriage and > siblings (note that that Samuel called his daughter Christina): > > Ward ,Samuel ,Marriage ,Link ,Christiana Maria ,17 ,03 ,1881 > ,1881/B007218 > Ward ,Samuel ,Birth ,Samuel ,Christina Maria Link ,21 ,01 ,1882 ,1882/ > 005340 > Ward ,Thomas ,Birth ,Samuel ,Christina Maria Link ,19 ,09 ,1883 ,1883/ > 006487 > Ward ,Ada ,Birth ,Samuel ,Christina Maria Link ,10 ,11 ,1885 ,1885/ > 007796 > Ward ,Oliver ,Birth ,Samuel ,Mary Link ,20 ,11 ,1888 ,1888/ > 009789 > Ward ,Pearce ,B ,Samuel ,Christina Maria Link ,1890-10-17 ,1890/ 010612 > > > > Now for the LIND family: > > Lind ,Jacob Alexander ,Marriage ,Mullar ,Mary Ann ,05 ,02 ,1884 ,1884/ > 000471 > Lind ,Georgina Mabel ,Birth ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Miller ,28 ,04 > ,1885 ,1885/ 005286 > Lind ,Albert Victor ,Birth ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Miller ,24 ,05 > ,1887 ,1887/ 006166 > Lind ,Alexander Miller ,Birth ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Miller ,31 ,10 > ,1889 ,1889/ 006344 > Lind ,Ada Bijou ,B ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Miller > ,1892-07-06 ,1892/ 010125 > Lind ,Tonnes Ferdinant Moreton ,B ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Miller > ,1894-11-09 ,1894/ 009592 > Lind ,Norman Herbert ,B ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Muller > ,1897-10-02 ,1897/ 009563 > Lind ,George Vincent Clarence ,B ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Muller > ,1899-12-30 ,1900/ 009759 > Lind ,Elma Gladys ,B ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Miller > ,1902-08-06 ,1902/ 010004 > Lind ,Doris Irene ,B ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Miller > ,1905-07-27 ,1905/B010544 > > > Now for the O'KEEFE family: > > OKeefe ,Richard ,Death ,John OKeefe ,Mary Stapleton ,27 ,05 > ,1883 > ,1883/ 003097 > OKeefe ,William ,Birth ,John ,Minnie Stapleton ,24 ,03 > ,1884 > ,1884/ 006671 > OKeefe ,Richard Vincent ,Birth ,John ,Minnie Stapleton ,02 ,03 > ,1889 > ,1889/ 009380 > OKeefe ,Gladys ,B ,John ,Minnie Stapleton ,1891-12-28 ,1892/ 005177 > OKeefe ,Mary ,B ,John ,Minnie Stapleton ,1897-04-07 ,1897/ 003834 > OKeefe ,James ,B ,John ,Mary Stapleton ,1899-06-22 ,1899/ 010460 > OKeefe ,Francis ,B ,John ,Mary Stapleton ,1902-11-09 ,1903/ 000940 > > Now for the MORTIMER family: > > Mortimer ,Thomas ,Marriage ,Glasgow ,Margaret ,18 ,04 ,1881 ,1881/ 000465 > Mortimer ,George ,Birth ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,28 ,01 > ,1882 ,1882/ 002686 > Mortimer ,Francis ,Birth ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,13 ,07 > ,1883 ,1883/ 005937 > Mortimer ,William ,Birth ,William Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,22 ,04 > ,1885 ,1885/ 006782 > Mortimer ,Lilley Ann ,Birth ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,21 ,02 > ,1887 ,1887/ 007576 > Mortimer ,Gertrude Violet ,Birth ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,11 ,07 > ,1888 ,1888/ 008462 > Mortimer ,Lillian Mary ,B ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,1890-03-06 > ,1890/ 009789 > Mortimer ,Mary ,B ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,1892-04-06 > ,1892/ 009567 > Mortimer ,Margaret ,B ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,1894-10-20 > ,1894/ 004248 > Mortimer ,Thomas ,B ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,1897-11-27 > ,1898/B061543 > Mortimer ,William John ,D ,Thomas Mortimer ,Margaret Glasgow ,1914-07-18 > ,1914/B019680 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > Toowoomba www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > __________ NOD32 1.1759 (20060916) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

> Are the Brisbane BMD available on line or CD or microfiche? See here for what's available and will be found in most family history libraries. A number of people on this list have various combinations of these resources (I have the CDs to 1914). http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/bdm/research.htm > Colleen WARD b1945 in Brisbane to Samuel Douglas WARD b.abt 1913 Brisbane > and wife Mona Mary OKEEFE b.abt 1920 Brisbane. Te father of Samuel WARD is > believed to be Samuel WARD, no further info. > Parents of Mona are Gertrude Violet MORTIMER, no further info and Richard > Vincent OKEEFE. Here is what I found in the BDMs up to 1914. (The B in the registration number signifies Brisbane). Samuel's birth, his sister's birth and their parents marriage: Ward ,Samuel ,M ,Lind ,Georgina Mabel ,1910-11-30 ,1910/B009501 Ward ,Christina Mabel ,B ,Samuel ,Georgina Mabel Lind ,1911-09-25 ,1911/B026616 Ward ,Samuel Douglas ,B ,Samuel ,Georgina Mabel Lind ,1913-10-12 ,1913/B033920 Now I found what *might* be Samuel's birth and parent's marriage and siblings (note that that Samuel called his daughter Christina): Ward ,Samuel ,Marriage ,Link ,Christiana Maria ,17 ,03 ,1881 ,1881/B007218 Ward ,Samuel ,Birth ,Samuel ,Christina Maria Link ,21 ,01 ,1882 ,1882/ 005340 Ward ,Thomas ,Birth ,Samuel ,Christina Maria Link ,19 ,09 ,1883 ,1883/ 006487 Ward ,Ada ,Birth ,Samuel ,Christina Maria Link ,10 ,11 ,1885 ,1885/ 007796 Ward ,Oliver ,Birth ,Samuel ,Mary Link ,20 ,11 ,1888 ,1888/ 009789 Ward ,Pearce ,B ,Samuel ,Christina Maria Link ,1890-10-17 ,1890/ 010612 Now for the LIND family: Lind ,Jacob Alexander ,Marriage ,Mullar ,Mary Ann ,05 ,02 ,1884 ,1884/ 000471 Lind ,Georgina Mabel ,Birth ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Miller ,28 ,04 ,1885 ,1885/ 005286 Lind ,Albert Victor ,Birth ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Miller ,24 ,05 ,1887 ,1887/ 006166 Lind ,Alexander Miller ,Birth ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Miller ,31 ,10 ,1889 ,1889/ 006344 Lind ,Ada Bijou ,B ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Miller ,1892-07-06 ,1892/ 010125 Lind ,Tonnes Ferdinant Moreton ,B ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Miller ,1894-11-09 ,1894/ 009592 Lind ,Norman Herbert ,B ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Muller ,1897-10-02 ,1897/ 009563 Lind ,George Vincent Clarence ,B ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Muller ,1899-12-30 ,1900/ 009759 Lind ,Elma Gladys ,B ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Miller ,1902-08-06 ,1902/ 010004 Lind ,Doris Irene ,B ,Jacob Alexander ,Mary Ann Miller ,1905-07-27 ,1905/B010544 Now for the O'KEEFE family: OKeefe ,Richard ,Death ,John OKeefe ,Mary Stapleton ,27 ,05 ,1883 ,1883/ 003097 OKeefe ,William ,Birth ,John ,Minnie Stapleton ,24 ,03 ,1884 ,1884/ 006671 OKeefe ,Richard Vincent ,Birth ,John ,Minnie Stapleton ,02 ,03 ,1889 ,1889/ 009380 OKeefe ,Gladys ,B ,John ,Minnie Stapleton ,1891-12-28 ,1892/ 005177 OKeefe ,Mary ,B ,John ,Minnie Stapleton ,1897-04-07 ,1897/ 003834 OKeefe ,James ,B ,John ,Mary Stapleton ,1899-06-22 ,1899/ 010460 OKeefe ,Francis ,B ,John ,Mary Stapleton ,1902-11-09 ,1903/ 000940 Now for the MORTIMER family: Mortimer ,Thomas ,Marriage ,Glasgow ,Margaret ,18 ,04 ,1881 ,1881/ 000465 Mortimer ,George ,Birth ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,28 ,01 ,1882 ,1882/ 002686 Mortimer ,Francis ,Birth ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,13 ,07 ,1883 ,1883/ 005937 Mortimer ,William ,Birth ,William Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,22 ,04 ,1885 ,1885/ 006782 Mortimer ,Lilley Ann ,Birth ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,21 ,02 ,1887 ,1887/ 007576 Mortimer ,Gertrude Violet ,Birth ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,11 ,07 ,1888 ,1888/ 008462 Mortimer ,Lillian Mary ,B ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,1890-03-06 ,1890/ 009789 Mortimer ,Mary ,B ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,1892-04-06 ,1892/ 009567 Mortimer ,Margaret ,B ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,1894-10-20 ,1894/ 004248 Mortimer ,Thomas ,B ,Thomas ,Margaret Glasgow ,1897-11-27 ,1898/B061543 Mortimer ,William John ,D ,Thomas Mortimer ,Margaret Glasgow ,1914-07-18 ,1914/B019680

Kerry, The Broughams did leave Australia and come to America in 1898. Thanks so much for your help. Marguerite ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Raymond" <kerry.raymond@gmail.com> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] (no subject) > > >> Hello, I live in Maryland (USA) and am researching my grandmother (Kate >> or Katherine Brougham) who was born in Brisbane Nov.7, 1882. I have no >> record of her parents marriage but assume it was also in Brisbane. Their >> names are Rose Dunn(e) and Patrick Brougham. > > Brougham ,Patrick ,Marriage ,Dunn ,Rose ,29 ,11 ,1877 ,1877/B005886 > > Brougham ,William Henry ,Birth ,Patrick ,Rose Dunn ,03 ,09 ,1878 > ,1878/B023890 > Brougham ,William Henry ,Death ,Patrick Brougham ,Rose Dunn ,20 ,09 ,1878 > ,1878/B012496 > Brougham ,Mary Teresa ,Birth ,Patrick ,Rose Dunn ,28 ,11 ,1880 > ,1880/B027012 > Brougham ,Kate ,Birth ,Patrick ,Rose Dunn ,06 ,11 ,1882 > ,1882/B029903 > > The baby William is buried in Toowong cemetery: > Name > Sex Burial Date ,Age > Brougham William Henry > NR* 21 / 09 / 187 ,Unknown > * NR indicates that Brisbane City Council has no record of the sex of this > individual. > Cemetery: Toowong > Cemetery > Street Address: Cnr Frederick > St > and Mt Coot-tha Rd, Toowong > UBD Ref: Map 158 N13 > Portion Section > Grave Number > 7 9 > 13 > > There is no sign of the family in the 1903 or 1913 electoral roll for Qld. > Perhaps they had moved away? > > Kerry > > > > > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > Toowoomba www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All I'm new to Australian Family History and before I trek off to nearest library with records (120km) I'd like to find out what is available ofline from people in the area. Are the Brisbane BMD available on line or CD or microfiche? Colleen WARD b1945 in Brisbane to Samuel Douglas WARD b.abt 1913 Brisbane and wife Mona Mary OKEEFE b.abt 1920 Brisbane. Te father of Samuel WARD is believed to be Samuel WARD, no further info. Parents of Mona are Gertrude Violet MORTIMER, no further info and Richard Vincent OKEEFE. Do these names have any connection to any others on this list. TIA Ted Fowler Drake NSW

> Hello, I live in Maryland (USA) and am researching my grandmother (Kate > or Katherine Brougham) who was born in Brisbane Nov.7, 1882. I have no > record of her parents marriage but assume it was also in Brisbane. Their > names are Rose Dunn(e) and Patrick Brougham. Brougham ,Patrick ,Marriage ,Dunn ,Rose ,29 ,11 ,1877 ,1877/B005886 Brougham ,William Henry ,Birth ,Patrick ,Rose Dunn ,03 ,09 ,1878 ,1878/B023890 Brougham ,William Henry ,Death ,Patrick Brougham ,Rose Dunn ,20 ,09 ,1878 ,1878/B012496 Brougham ,Mary Teresa ,Birth ,Patrick ,Rose Dunn ,28 ,11 ,1880 ,1880/B027012 Brougham ,Kate ,Birth ,Patrick ,Rose Dunn ,06 ,11 ,1882 ,1882/B029903 The baby William is buried in Toowong cemetery: Name Sex Burial Date ,Age Brougham William Henry NR* 21 / 09 / 187 ,Unknown * NR indicates that Brisbane City Council has no record of the sex of this individual. Cemetery: Toowong Cemetery Street Address: Cnr Frederick St and Mt Coot-tha Rd, Toowong UBD Ref: Map 158 N13 Portion Section Grave Number 7 9 13 There is no sign of the family in the 1903 or 1913 electoral roll for Qld. Perhaps they had moved away? Kerry

Hello all, I am looking for descendants of William Sydney Croucher bn. 1-11-1910 and his wife Ivy, also decendants of Richard Ernest Croucher bn 9-6-1903 and Queenie Croucher bn1-7-1908. My Grandfather their Uncle came to N.Z. in 1900 and we did not know that he had brothers and family in Australia till the last few years and so would like to get in touch with them. Regards Sue

Hello, I live in Maryland (USA) and am researching my grandmother (Kate or Katherine Brougham) who was born in Brisbane Nov.7, 1882. I have no record of her parents marriage but assume it was also in Brisbane. Their names are Rose Dunn(e) and Patrick Brougham. If anyone has any information on this I would be very grateful. I enjoy reading about what everyone else is researching. Thank you. Marguerite Mroz

Hi List I am trying to find any descendants of Robert G T WATSON born 19 th April 1872 Qld and died 26 June 1918. and buried in West End Cemetery, Townsville Qld. I have names of the children but the date of birth seems incorrect and I do not think all names that I was given were to this person, maybe his grandchildren. I have an eldest child Robert Lawrence Watson born 1918 and youngest child Andrew Watson born 14th January 1958. I just want to get this family tree correct. I hope somebody can assist. Robert G T Watson is the youngest sibling to my grandfather. Thanks Mary Linning Qld

Hi It was just a thought. I've found a few of mine with somewhat "variously" "incredible" spellings - try finding "Duffy" as "Daffie". "Hadley" as "Attlee" "Atwell". "Reilly" as "Kelly". "Ma Ma Creek" as "Mackay" (work that one out). Had someone banging their head as they had been searching for ancestor in "Wellington" - NZ that is. I asked if they had heard of "Wellington" NSW. Believe it ot not, there was all the family records there waiting for them to find - in NSW. I've finally - after 25 years - found a link to my grandmother, her sister's family. DON'T give up. Think very laterally. Have you tried such names as Marshall, Maunsell, Wilson, and many other variations. Keep trying. They're out there somewhere....they just made it very hard for us to have an easy search. Just think, we could be sitting around in our latter years being "bored". Keeps us off the streets and in the archives, libraries etc. Best of Luck, Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Robinson" <tworobbos@net-tech.com.au> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] VARSELL and Home Hill > Hi Kay > > Thanks for your input and assistance. Your suggestion re Colquhoun is imaginative and one I certainly hadn't considered. However, Francis' Attestation Form when signing up for service clearly states that he was born in or near "Holmhill, Qld" (as opposed to the War Memorial site which shows "Holmeville") and as he had to sign the form I doubt that he would have failed to correct that if it was incorrect. > > Being resident myself at Bairnsdale (although not a native thereof) I am familiar with the regional geography. A number at attempts have been made to ascertain his origins including looking at all the available regional databases. > > In retrospect, I am coming to the conclusion that he may have deliberately concealed either his true identity or his place of birth. For what reason can only be guessed at. There are indications that Varsell is a name with Scandinavian origins and it may be that he was a seaman or other crew member who may have jumped ship. It may also be that there was something in his background that he wished to conceal and to do so he adopted a different name - although why such an uncommon one as Varsell can also only be guessed at. > > I have a copies of several letters attached to his WWII service record, presumably written in his own hand, which militate against a foreign background as the English is quite good. There is also the question of military service. The recruiting officer would surely have queried an Australian birthplace for anyone with a foreign accent. This would almost guarantee that he was an Australian. His occupation is shown as "Mechanic" which probably explains the Nowa Nowa connection as there were saw mills in the town and nearby. > > Production of a birth certificate was not a prerequisite for either enlistment or for marriage and as no record of his birth has been found that leads to the question of whether he was registered at birth or not and/or whether he changed identities for possibly ulterior motives. > > Another possibility is that he was an illegitimate child - many of that era concealed that fact. But then, how came he by the name Varsell and by whom was he brought up? Does Varsell appear in any other context in the Queensland records? A marriage of a single woman? A death somewhere? Criminal records? Orphanage records? > > > Confused? So am I! > > > the older of the tworobbos > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > Toowoomba www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Kay Thanks for your input and assistance. Your suggestion re Colquhoun is imaginative and one I certainly hadn't considered. However, Francis' Attestation Form when signing up for service clearly states that he was born in or near "Holmhill, Qld" (as opposed to the War Memorial site which shows "Holmeville") and as he had to sign the form I doubt that he would have failed to correct that if it was incorrect. Being resident myself at Bairnsdale (although not a native thereof) I am familiar with the regional geography. A number at attempts have been made to ascertain his origins including looking at all the available regional databases. In retrospect, I am coming to the conclusion that he may have deliberately concealed either his true identity or his place of birth. For what reason can only be guessed at. There are indications that Varsell is a name with Scandinavian origins and it may be that he was a seaman or other crew member who may have jumped ship. It may also be that there was something in his background that he wished to conceal and to do so he adopted a different name - although why such an uncommon one as Varsell can also only be guessed at. I have a copies of several letters attached to his WWII service record, presumably written in his own hand, which militate against a foreign background as the English is quite good. There is also the question of military service. The recruiting officer would surely have queried an Australian birthplace for anyone with a foreign accent. This would almost guarantee that he was an Australian. His occupation is shown as "Mechanic" which probably explains the Nowa Nowa connection as there were saw mills in the town and nearby. Production of a birth certificate was not a prerequisite for either enlistment or for marriage and as no record of his birth has been found that leads to the question of whether he was registered at birth or not and/or whether he changed identities for possibly ulterior motives. Another possibility is that he was an illegitimate child - many of that era concealed that fact. But then, how came he by the name Varsell and by whom was he brought up? Does Varsell appear in any other context in the Queensland records? A marriage of a single woman? A death somewhere? Criminal records? Orphanage records? Confused? So am I! the older of the tworobbos

I have been reading these messages with interest. My father was another one who did the same as below - age up for WW1 and down for WW11. I never knew his real age until I found his original Birth Certificate (Engish) amongst papers after my mother died. Re the other query. I think it odd that "Home Hill" (located in north Queensland) would be the place when he was living at Nowa Nowa and he died at Paynesville - both in the same area of Victoria. On looking at a map of Victoria there is a "Colquhoun" in the area - pronounced variously as "Calhoun" "Comlhil" - perhaps the officer taking the information did not hear correctly and put down what he though he heard! Particularly if there was any sort of accent. Just another thought. (This particular area is down near Lakes Entrance/Bairnsdale - have a look). Regards, Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Arthur" <marthur@emergency.qld.gov.au> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:46 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] VARSELL and Home Hill > > I am only new to this mailing list, so I didn't see your original post. > > But as far as war records / dates of birth are concerned - my grandfather altered his age for both World Wars. He put his age up for WW1, and put his age down for WW2, so he would be eligible to serve. I have found his record for WW2, but can't for the life of me find his WW1 file (he changed his name too!). > > Could your relative have put his age down, ie, made himself younger, on his Attestation Form in WW2 so he could serve? > > Just a thought. > > Maureen. > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-qld-brisbane-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-qld-brisbane-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Peter > Robinson > Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 5:41 AM > To: AUS-QLD-BRISBANE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] VARSELL and Home Hill > > > My thanks to all who replied to my previous posting. > > After downloading Francis' WWII record from the National Archives I find that his place of enlistment was written down as Holmhill - so I guess that solves that problem. He was living at Nowa Nowa, Vic, at the time and I'm assuming that the recruitment officer at Caulfield had never heard of Home Hill and just wrote down what he thought he heard. He may have known about Townsville but not its suburbs. > > However, that still leaves unanswered the question of his birth record. His Attestation Form shows 17th September 1914 - which conflicts with his stated age of 46 (in 1958) at the time of death at Paynesville, Vic. The death record in the Registry indexes shows both parent's names as unknown. > > Varsell is a most uncommon name and only two instances in the Vic death record indexes. > > > the older of the tworobbos > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > Toowoomba www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > This correspondence is for the named persons only. > It may contain confidential or privileged information or both. > No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mis transmission. > If you receive this correspondence in error please delete it from your system immediately and notify the sender. > You must not disclose, copy or relay on any part of this correspondence, if you are not the intended recipient. > Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual sender except where the sender expressly, > and with the authority, states them to be the opinions of the Department of Emergency Services, Queensland. > > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > Toowoomba www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Listers Unfortunately I will be unable to attend - half way round the world and all that. However, if there are any leads as to how I might carry out some more research on: The Golconda in 1854; The Blenheim in 1857; The Conway in 1862; I would very much appreciate hearing from anyone in attendance. (especially, location of photographs of those voyages would be priceless) Best regards Chris Researching MORRIS, ROBINSON and THRUTCHLEY of Boulton (Derby UK) and Aspley (Nottingham UK and Brisbane QLD) _Seminar_ "Early Shipping to Australia". How and When did your Ancestors come to Australia? conducted by Stephanie Ryan, Senior Librarian, Family History, Queensland State Library. _When_ Saturday 23rd September 2006 _Time_ 1pm- 4pm _Where_ Guide Hut, Arthur Street, Caloundra, Queensland _Cost_ $10 including Afternoon Tea. Bookings Essential. Telephone Eunice 54923676- Pam 54776582 Email caloundrafamilyres@hotmail.com <mailto:caloundrafamilyres@hotmail.com>.

Caloundra Family History Research Inc _Seminar_ "Early Shipping to Australia". How and When did your Ancestors come to Australia? conducted by Stephanie Ryan, Senior Librarian, Family History, Queensland State Library. _When_ Saturday 23rd September 2006 _Time_ 1pm- 4pm _Where_ Guide Hut, Arthur Street, Caloundra, Queensland _Cost_ $10 including Afternoon Tea. Bookings Essential. Telephone Eunice 54923676- Pam 54776582 Email caloundrafamilyres@hotmail.com <mailto:caloundrafamilyres@hotmail.com>.