The 3 Austin children who died as babies are all buried in South Brisbane (Dutton Park) cemetery in separate graves, in each case with others (presumably relatives since the Hais name appears). Dutton Park is very close to Annerley. Name Sex Burial Date ,Age Hais Myrtle E NR* 23 / 11 / 1897 ,Unknown Austin James R NR* 20 / 10 / 1901 ,Unknown Fox Ellen NR* 29 / 03 / 1891 ,Unknown Portion Grave Number , 7B 234 , Name Sex Burial Date ,Age Miller Ethel A NR* 15 / 08 / 1892 ,Unknown Miller Frederick C H NR* 03 / 12 / 1895 ,Unknown Brito Stillborn NR* 27 / 12 / 1946 ,0 stillborn Hais Philip Carl NR* 25 / 02 / 1883 ,Unknown Austin Norman NR* 10 / 12 / 1903 ,Unknown Portion Grave Number , 5A 17 , Name Sex Burial Date ,Age Bennion Alice NR* 04 / 09 / 1895 ,Unknown Bennion Bertie NR* 30 / 05 / 1898 ,Unknown Miller Vera M NR* 13 / 08 / 1923 ,Unknown Austin Clifford NR* 14 / 11 / 1907 ,Unknown Portion Grave Number , 4A 245 , Here are the death indexes for the other people (up to 1914 only): Hais ,Myrtle Eva ,D ,Frederick Henry Hais ,Martha Ann Fox ,1897-11-22 ,1897/B030159 Fox ,Ellen ,D ,Moses Campbell ,Alice Lahey ,1891-03-28 ,1891/ 003409 Miller ,Ethel Amelia ,D ,Frederick Miller ,Mary Caroline Hais ,1892-08-15 ,1892/B025269 Miller ,Frederick Charles ,D ,Frederick Miller ,Mary Caroline Hais ,1895-12-02 ,1895/B028311 Hais ,Philipp Karl ,Death ,Philipp Hais ,Mary Ann James ,24 ,02 ,1883 ,1883/B015442 Bennion ,ALice Edith ,D ,William Bennion ,Gertrude Hais ,1895-09-03 ,1895/B028050 Bennion ,Bertie ,D ,William Bennion ,Gertrude Hays ,1898-05-29 ,1898/B030627 Other than Ellen Fox, the family connection is obvious from the death index.
Here are all the HAIS in the 1922 electoral roll, if that is useful to you: Surname ,Given Names Title ,Place of Living ,Occupation ,Sex ,Subdivision ,Division HAIS ,Ada ,Wolsley st. ,home duties ,F ,Buranda ,Oxley HAIS ,Annie Alice ,Spring Creek ,home duties ,F ,Clifton ,Darling Downs HAIS ,Annie Louisa ,Emoh Ruo, Wilston rd., Newmarket ,home duties ,F ,Enoggera ,Lilley HAIS ,Edith Annie ,Granville and Sterling st., Kedron ,home duties ,F ,Nundah ,Lilley HAIS ,Walter James ,Emoh Ruo, Wilston rd., Newmarket ,engineer ,M ,Enoggera ,Lilley HAIS ,William Clifford Elias ,Granville and Sterling st., Kedron ,printer ,M ,Nundah ,Lilley HAIS ,William James ,Hendon ,painter ,M ,Allora ,Darling Downs
> The informant of his death was listed as: > A.Austin. Sister, Junction Street, Thompson Estate, South Brisbane Here is the entry in the 1922 electoral roll: Surname ,Given Names ,Title ,Place of Living ,Occupation ,Sex ,Subdivision, Division AUSTIN ,Augusta Eliza Dorothea , ,Junction st. ,home duties ,F ,Buranda Oxley AUSTIN ,Evelyn Ivy , ,Junction st. ,tailoress ,F ,Buranda Oxley AUSTIN ,James , ,Junction st. ,boot trade ,M ,Buranda Oxley And in the Federation index, there is the marriage: Austin ,James ,M ,Hais ,Augusta Eliza Dorothea ,1898-01-19 ,1898/B019082 and the births and deaths of some children: Austin ,Evelyn Ivy ,B ,James ,Augusta Eliza Dorothea Hais ,1898-08-01 ,1898/B062713 Austin ,James Raymond ,B ,James ,Augusta Eliza Dorethea Hais ,1900-12-26 ,1901/B002157 Austin ,James Raymond ,D ,James Austin ,Augusta Eliza Dorothea Hais ,1901-10-19 ,1901/B001768 Austin ,Norman Edward ,B ,James ,Augusta Eliza Dorothea Hais ,1902-09-27 ,1902/B005637 Austin ,Norman Edward ,D ,James Austin ,Augusta Eliza Dorothea Hais ,1903-12-09 ,1903/B004213 Austin ,Ruby Gertrude ,B ,James ,Augusta Elizabeth Dorothea Hais ,1904-12-14 ,1905/B009574 Austin ,Clifford ,B ,James ,Augusta Eliza Dorothea Hais ,1907-11-11 ,1907/B015794 Austin ,Clifford ,D ,James Austin ,Augusta Eliza Dorothea Hais ,1907-11-13 ,1907/B008866 Austin ,Edna Mary Ann ,B ,James ,Augusta Eliza Dorothea Hais ,1909-06-28 ,1909/B020098 Austin ,Eva Jessie ,B ,James ,Augusta Eliza Doratha Hais ,1911-10-15 ,1911/ 009778
That's an easy one because I grew up in the next street. It's Junction Terrace in Annerley. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen A Cooper" <hcooper@bne.catholic.edu.au> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 1:34 AM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Seeking info on Thompson Estate in Brisbane >I have just received a death certificate for an evasive family member and >have found another potential clue. > > The informant of his death was listed as: > A.Austin. Sister, Junction Street, Thompson Estate, South Brisbane > > I did not know of this sister or her family assuming that she must have > been married as the brother's surname was Hais. This is a lead to follow. > > I have not heard of this suburb. Using knowledge of present day roads I > would say it would need to be over near the Mater Hospital or Old Boggo > Road Jail. > > Does anybody know for sure? > ********************************************************* > > This e-mail (including all attachments) is intended solely for the > named addressee/s and may contain confidential information. If you > have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete > it from your computer system and destroy any copies. > > This e-mail is subject to copyright. Any unauthorised disclosure, > modification or distribution is expressly prohibited. > > Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this e-mail do > not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of > Brisbane Catholic Education. > > Brisbane Catholic Education gives no warranties that this e-mail is > free from computer viruses or other defects. Except for > responsibilities implied by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane > Catholic Education, its employees and agents will not be responsible > for any loss, damage or consequence arising from this e-mail. > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > Toowoomba www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Thompson Estate is in the Annerley region. Regards Helen > I have just received a death certificate for an evasive family member and > have found another potential clue. > > The informant of his death was listed as: > A.Austin. Sister, Junction Street, Thompson Estate, South Brisbane > > I did not know of this sister or her family assuming that she must have > been married as the brother's surname was Hais. This is a lead to follow. > > I have not heard of this suburb. Using knowledge of present day roads I > would say it would need to be over near the Mater Hospital or Old Boggo > Road Jail. > > Does anybody know for sure? > ********************************************************* > > This e-mail (including all attachments) is intended solely for the > named addressee/s and may contain confidential information. If you > have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete > it from your computer system and destroy any copies. > > This e-mail is subject to copyright. Any unauthorised disclosure, > modification or distribution is expressly prohibited. > > Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this e-mail do > not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of > Brisbane Catholic Education. > > Brisbane Catholic Education gives no warranties that this e-mail is > free from computer viruses or other defects. Except for > responsibilities implied by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane > Catholic Education, its employees and agents will not be responsible > for any loss, damage or consequence arising from this e-mail. > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > Toowoomba www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi all, the 1923 map has Newstead as Bulimba but I think this is the council division as there is a red line that crosses the river binding Bulimba on the southside to the pocket we know as Newstead. Erica ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mret" <hare2@optushome.com.au> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Where was Frances street, The Valley,in 1888? > On the 1903 commonwealth electoral rolls it mentions Frances St, Bulimba, > polling place Fortitudes Valley. > The Newstead area was referred to as Bulimba in my family from the 1920's, > but I never realised the anomoly could possibly be that official! > Hope this is of help! > Cheers > Marty > > > On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:27:45 +1000, Maureen Arthur > <maltesemanor@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello listers, > > I have looked through the 1880's Qld Post Office Directory for my > > ancestors, > > and found that one family lived for several years at Frances street, The > > Valley. > > > > I know that The Valley was another name for Fortitude Valley near > > Brisbane > > city. But where was Frances street? A check of current street > > directories > > seems to show that Frances street no longer exists. > > > > Can anyone suggest where I may find out where Frances street The Valley > > was > > in the late 1880's? > > > > Many thanks, > > Maureen > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Advertisement: Getting married? Tell us why to WIN @ LetsShop > > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eletsshop%2Ecom%2FCompetitions%2FLetsMarry%2Ftabid%2F549%2FDefault%2Easpx&_t=751480117&_r=HM_tagline_letsshop_wedding&_m=EXT > > > > > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > > Toowoomba www.audps.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > Toowoomba www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
> On the 1903 commonwealth electoral rolls it mentions Frances St, Bulimba, > polling place Fortitudes Valley. > The Newstead area was referred to as Bulimba in my family from the 1920's, > but I never realised the anomoly could possibly be that official! Yes, Bulimba was a suburb on both sides of the river (as bizarre as that sounds to us today). That section of the river is Bulimba Reach and the name seems to have stuck for the land on either side. At some point, it must have been decided that it was just too confusing and now Bulimba refers only to the suburb on the south side of the river. On my 1940s map of Brisbane, it doesn't show boundaries between suburbs but the word Bulimba does appear on the northern side of the river, written over the area between Commercial Road and Longlands Road. To the south there is Teneriffe (written in the area near Chester Street). To the north there is Newstead (written in the area near the intersection of Breakfast Creek Road and Jordan Terrace). Kerry
That's so bizarre that the streets of New Farm such as Harcourt, Commercial rd., etc., are called Bulimba back then! Bulimba is on the other side of the river! I'm assuming that the QLD Post Directory addresses on microfiche are where the mail was delivered to. And all but 1 of the entries spell Frances with an 'e' for the Arthur entries. I think all I can hope is that there is a map out there somewhere from that time period that has Frances street listed. It looks like it had it's name changed during the years. I would have loved to have known where it was though. Maureen. >From: Mret <hare2@optushome.com.au> >Reply-To: aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com >To: aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Where was Frances street, The Valley,in >1888? >Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:22:22 +1000 > >Looks like it's Newstead or surrounds! > >other street names for Bulimba, polling place Fortitudes Valley 1903: >Commercial Rd, Vernon Terrace, Francis [most common spelling], Florence, >Union, Chester, Stratton, Hill, Victoria, Ella, Albert, Longland, Leopold, >Ann, Alfred, Helen, Master, Harcourt, Wyatt, Grace, Ellis, River, Tufton, >Ethel, Church, Sutton, Gibbon Streets, not to mention Skyring's Paddock!! > >in fact, only the HARRISON family had it spelt as 'Frances'! >Emily -domestic duties >John -engine driver >Joseph -labourer > >Cheers >Marty > > >On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:27:45 +1000, Maureen Arthur ><maltesemanor@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Can anyone suggest where I may find out where Frances street The Valley > > was > > in the late 1880's? > > > > Many thanks, > > Maureen _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau&_t=757263760&_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06&_m=EXT
I have just received a death certificate for an evasive family member and have found another potential clue. The informant of his death was listed as: A.Austin. Sister, Junction Street, Thompson Estate, South Brisbane I did not know of this sister or her family assuming that she must have been married as the brother's surname was Hais. This is a lead to follow. I have not heard of this suburb. Using knowledge of present day roads I would say it would need to be over near the Mater Hospital or Old Boggo Road Jail. Does anybody know for sure? ********************************************************* This e-mail (including all attachments) is intended solely for the named addressee/s and may contain confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete it from your computer system and destroy any copies. This e-mail is subject to copyright. Any unauthorised disclosure, modification or distribution is expressly prohibited. Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this e-mail do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of Brisbane Catholic Education. Brisbane Catholic Education gives no warranties that this e-mail is free from computer viruses or other defects. Except for responsibilities implied by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane Catholic Education, its employees and agents will not be responsible for any loss, damage or consequence arising from this e-mail.
Maureen - you can find out about street name changes at Brisbane City Archives. Have a look at <http://www.archivists.org.au/directory/data/224.htm> for their contact details. I went there recently and they were just marvellous.RegardsChris> From: ciscoshell@hotmail.com> To: aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com; maltesemanor@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 23:53:22 +1000> Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Where was Frances street, The Valley, in> > Hello Maureen,> > I don't know where Frances Street is but I have previously found old> addresses by looking at the street maps included with some of the early QLD> (state) electoral rolls.> > They are available on film at the State Archives.> > Regards> Paul> > > > ---------------------------------> Paul Mann> Brisbane, Queensland Australia> Ciscoshell@hotmail.com> http://www.geocities.com/ciscoshell/> Researching Bossingham, Burrows, Carlyle, Coomber, Garland, Head, Hull,> Mann, Splevins, Stuckey & Whitehead> Member: Bedfordshire Family History Society> Member: Genealogical Society of Queensland> ---------------------------------> > > > -----Original Message-----> >Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:27:45 +1000> >From: "Maureen Arthur" <maltesemanor@hotmail.com>> >Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Where was Frances street, The Valley, in> > 1888?> >To: AUS-QLD-BRISBANE@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <BAY103-F1112DDD6E433C301303984D7DE0@phx.gbl>> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed> >> >Hello listers,> >I have looked through the 1880's Qld Post Office Directory for my> ancestors, > >and found that one family lived for several years at Frances street, The > >Valley.> >> >I know that The Valley was another name for Fortitude Valley near Brisbane > >city. But where was Frances street? A check of current street directories > >seems to show that Frances street no longer exists.> >> >Can anyone suggest where I may find out where Frances street The Valley was> > >in the late 1880's?> >> >Many thanks,> >Maureen> > _________________________________________________________________> > > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society> Toowoomba www.audps.com> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d
> I have just found another clue!!! In the 1890, 1897-99 Qld PO Directory, > he > is listed as James st, NEWSTEAD. Well, James Street is still in Newstead, so that's a good start. > Then from 1902 - 1905, his widow Catherine > is listed as Frances st, BRISBANE. > > so it may be closer to Newstead than Kangaroo Point? While Kangaroo Point is close to The Valley as the crow flies or the fish swims, the river was a major barrier and the Story Bridge was not built until the 1930s. I really doubt that someone who lived in Kangaroo Point would have described it as The Valley. However, Fortitude Valley is adjacent to Newstead, so I could imagine someone living at Newstead might have described it as The Valley. Kerry
Looks like it's Newstead or surrounds! other street names for Bulimba, polling place Fortitudes Valley 1903: Commercial Rd, Vernon Terrace, Francis [most common spelling], Florence, Union, Chester, Stratton, Hill, Victoria, Ella, Albert, Longland, Leopold, Ann, Alfred, Helen, Master, Harcourt, Wyatt, Grace, Ellis, River, Tufton, Ethel, Church, Sutton, Gibbon Streets, not to mention Skyring's Paddock!! in fact, only the HARRISON family had it spelt as 'Frances'! Emily -domestic duties John -engine driver Joseph -labourer Cheers Marty On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:27:45 +1000, Maureen Arthur <maltesemanor@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hello listers, > I have looked through the 1880's Qld Post Office Directory for my > ancestors, > and found that one family lived for several years at Frances street, The > Valley. > > I know that The Valley was another name for Fortitude Valley near > Brisbane > city. But where was Frances street? A check of current street > directories > seems to show that Frances street no longer exists. > > Can anyone suggest where I may find out where Frances street The Valley > was > in the late 1880's? > > Many thanks, > Maureen > > _________________________________________________________________ > Advertisement: Getting married? Tell us why to WIN @ LetsShop > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eletsshop%2Ecom%2FCompetitions%2FLetsMarry%2Ftabid%2F549%2FDefault%2Easpx&_t=751480117&_r=HM_tagline_letsshop_wedding&_m=EXT > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > Toowoomba www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
I will give the addresses I have found below. Can anyone suggest a link re: the streets perhaps the streets named were close to each other? >From the Qld PO Directory . 1883-1884 ARTHUR, James Adelaide st. (I cant find info on when James emigrated). Then, he was in Tewantin and married in Gympie in 1885. 1887 ARTHUR, Jas, sawyer Frances st., Val 1888 ARTHUR, James, mariner Albert st., Val 1889 ARTHUR, Jas, sawyer Francis st., Val (spelt with an i) 1890 ARTHUR, Jas, labourer Frances st., Newstead 1891 nothing 1892 ARTHUR, J., mariner Skyring tce, Newstead 1893 ARTHUR, Jas, mariner Skyring ter., Newstead 1894 nothing 189596 ARTHUR, Jas mariner Skyring ter., Newstead 189697 ARTHUR, James, Frances st., Valley, Brisbane 1897-99 ARTHUR, Jas, mariner Frances st., Newstead 1900 ARTHUR, Jas Frances st., Valley 1901 ARTHUR, Jas Frances st., Valley (He was killed in April 1901) 1902 ARTHUR, Mrs Jas, Frances st., Bris Maureen. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Maureen Arthur" <maltesemanor@hotmail.com> >To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:27 PM >Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Where was Frances street, The Valley, in 1888? > > > > Hello listers, > > I have looked through the 1880's Qld Post Office Directory for my >ancestors, > > and found that one family lived for several years at Frances street, The > > Valley. > > > > I know that The Valley was another name for Fortitude Valley near >Brisbane > > city. But where was Frances street? A check of current street >directories > > seems to show that Frances street no longer exists. > > > > Can anyone suggest where I may find out where Frances street The Valley >was > > in the late 1880's? > > > > Many thanks, > > Maureen _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Meet Sexy Singles Today @ Lavalife - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D23769&_t=754951090&_r=endtext_lavalife_dec_meet&_m=EXT
On the 1903 commonwealth electoral rolls it mentions Frances St, Bulimba, polling place Fortitudes Valley. The Newstead area was referred to as Bulimba in my family from the 1920's, but I never realised the anomoly could possibly be that official! Hope this is of help! Cheers Marty On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:27:45 +1000, Maureen Arthur <maltesemanor@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hello listers, > I have looked through the 1880's Qld Post Office Directory for my > ancestors, > and found that one family lived for several years at Frances street, The > Valley. > > I know that The Valley was another name for Fortitude Valley near > Brisbane > city. But where was Frances street? A check of current street > directories > seems to show that Frances street no longer exists. > > Can anyone suggest where I may find out where Frances street The Valley > was > in the late 1880's? > > Many thanks, > Maureen > > _________________________________________________________________ > Advertisement: Getting married? Tell us why to WIN @ LetsShop > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eletsshop%2Ecom%2FCompetitions%2FLetsMarry%2Ftabid%2F549%2FDefault%2Easpx&_t=751480117&_r=HM_tagline_letsshop_wedding&_m=EXT > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > Toowoomba www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
A big thanks to everyone who has replied. Erica, thanks so much for taking to time to go over the map you have access to. As I have mentioned previously, James Arthur lived at Frances street in the late 1890's. I have just found another clue!!! In the 1890, 1897-99 Qld PO Directory, he is listed as James st, NEWSTEAD. Then from 1902 - 1905, his widow Catherine is listed as Frances st, BRISBANE. so it may be closer to Newstead than Kangaroo Point? Maureen. >From: "Erica Long" <Erica.Long@uq.net.au> >Reply-To: aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com >To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Where was Frances street, The Valley,in >1888? >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 18:10:07 +1000 > >Hi Maureen, > >I have looked at a 1923 map I have and can't find it. I'll have to find the >magnifying glass. It may well be there as it is rather small. There are >lots >of streets named after Christain names. >Will let you know if I find it. >Erica > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Maureen Arthur" <maltesemanor@hotmail.com> >To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:27 PM >Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Where was Frances street, The Valley, in 1888? > > > > Hello listers, > > I have looked through the 1880's Qld Post Office Directory for my >ancestors, > > and found that one family lived for several years at Frances street, The > > Valley. > > > > I know that The Valley was another name for Fortitude Valley near >Brisbane > > city. But where was Frances street? A check of current street >directories > > seems to show that Frances street no longer exists. > > > > Can anyone suggest where I may find out where Frances street The Valley >was > > in the late 1880's? > > > > Many thanks, > > Maureen > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Advertisement: Getting married? Tell us why to WIN @ LetsShop > > >http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eletsshop%2Ecom%2FCompetitions%2FLetsMarry%2Ftabid%2F549%2FDefault%2Easpx&_t=751480117&_r=HM_tagline_letsshop_wedding&_m=EXT > > > > > > > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > > Toowoomba www.audps.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >Queensland Dead Persons Society >Toowoomba www.audps.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Mobiles, computers, handsets, iPODs and more! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etradingpost%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fsearch%2Fcat%5FPhones%5Fns%5FTrue%5Foff%5F0%5Fsect%5FAutomotive%5Fsort%5FotRZSQ1BJDZfdRZSQSearchDisplayPriorityIndAVSCotRZSQ1BJDZfdRZSQFirstPublished%5Fsqt%5F2%5Fsrch%5Fmobile%2Bphones%5Fsrchtype%5Fint%5Fstate%5F9%5Fstpg%5F1%5Fsubs%5FUsed%2BCars%5F%3Freferrer%3Dplacement13&_t=759568604&_r=Email_Tagline1&_m=EXT
Hi Maureen, I have looked at a 1923 map I have and can't find it. I'll have to find the magnifying glass. It may well be there as it is rather small. There are lots of streets named after Christain names. Will let you know if I find it. Erica ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Arthur" <maltesemanor@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:27 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Where was Frances street, The Valley, in 1888? > Hello listers, > I have looked through the 1880's Qld Post Office Directory for my ancestors, > and found that one family lived for several years at Frances street, The > Valley. > > I know that The Valley was another name for Fortitude Valley near Brisbane > city. But where was Frances street? A check of current street directories > seems to show that Frances street no longer exists. > > Can anyone suggest where I may find out where Frances street The Valley was > in the late 1880's? > > Many thanks, > Maureen > > _________________________________________________________________ > Advertisement: Getting married? Tell us why to WIN @ LetsShop > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eletsshop%2Ecom%2FCompetitions%2FLetsMarry%2Ftabid%2F549%2FDefault%2Easpx&_t=751480117&_r=HM_tagline_letsshop_wedding&_m=EXT > > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > Toowoomba www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Maureen, I don't know where Frances Street is but I have previously found old addresses by looking at the street maps included with some of the early QLD (state) electoral rolls. They are available on film at the State Archives. Regards Paul --------------------------------- Paul Mann Brisbane, Queensland Australia Ciscoshell@hotmail.com http://www.geocities.com/ciscoshell/ Researching Bossingham, Burrows, Carlyle, Coomber, Garland, Head, Hull, Mann, Splevins, Stuckey & Whitehead Member: Bedfordshire Family History Society Member: Genealogical Society of Queensland --------------------------------- -----Original Message----- >Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:27:45 +1000 >From: "Maureen Arthur" <maltesemanor@hotmail.com> >Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Where was Frances street, The Valley, in > 1888? >To: AUS-QLD-BRISBANE@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <BAY103-F1112DDD6E433C301303984D7DE0@phx.gbl> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >Hello listers, >I have looked through the 1880's Qld Post Office Directory for my ancestors, >and found that one family lived for several years at Frances street, The >Valley. > >I know that The Valley was another name for Fortitude Valley near Brisbane >city. But where was Frances street? A check of current street directories >seems to show that Frances street no longer exists. > >Can anyone suggest where I may find out where Frances street The Valley was >in the late 1880's? > >Many thanks, >Maureen _________________________________________________________________
Hi Maureen, Having grown up in Brisbane I would have to say that it is most unlikely that Francis Street in Kangaroo Point is the the Frances Street of Fortitude Valley. Both suburbs are on different sides of the Brisbane River and although there is the Story Bridge now which joins them, it was definitely not there in the 1880's. I would be fairly confident that the street has changed it's name sometime around 1925 when many streets in Brisbane changed their name. Maybe someone on the list might be able to check with some of the local family history societies as I am sure one of them would have details of the name changes. Bye, Rosemary M Chalmers Palmerston Bookkeeping Services Darwin NT Australia rosechal@iinet.net.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Arthur" <maltesemanor@hotmail.com> To: <rosechal@iinet.net.au> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Where was Frances street, The Valley,in 1888? > Thanks for that info, Kathryn. In the several PO directories I have seen, > the street was always spelt "Frances". I wonder if this is the same street > as Francis in Kangaroo Point? > > I agree with you about the Brisbane boundaries. I have people around that > period that were born in what we call Brisbane now, but they were > registered > as non-Brisbane births. > > Maureen. > > >>From: "Kathryn " <kmc240963@optusnet.com.au> >>Reply-To: aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com >>To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Where was Frances street, The Valley,in >>1888? >>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 17:45:10 +1000 >> >>Dear Maureen >> >>I have no idea whether this is use or not but before the formation of >>Greater >>Brisbane, there was a Francis Street in Kangaroo Point. There is no >>mention >>of a >>Francis St. in Fortitude Valley. The one in Kangaroo Pt. is now called >>Anglesey >>Street. I guess it depends on where the suburb boundaries were in the >>1880s. But >>I would have thought they were smaller not larger. >> >>Ref: Teague, David (1994) "Directory of Street Name Changes"; bought from >>Windsor & Districts Historical Society.(very handy booklet, usually) >> >>Regards, >>Kathryn >> >>From: aus-qld-brisbane-bounces@rootsweb.com >>[mailto:aus-qld-brisbane-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maureen Arthur >>Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 3:28 PM >>To: AUS-QLD-BRISBANE@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Where was Frances street, The Valley, in 1888? >> >>Hello listers, >>I have looked through the 1880's Qld Post Office Directory for my >>ancestors, >>and found that one family lived for several years at Frances street, The >>Valley. >> >>I know that The Valley was another name for Fortitude Valley near Brisbane >>city. But where was Frances street? A check of current street directories >>seems to show that Frances street no longer exists. >> >>Can anyone suggest where I may find out where Frances street The Valley >>was >>in the late 1880's? >> >>Many thanks, >>Maureen >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >>Queensland Dead Persons Society >>Toowoomba www.audps.com >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.7/569 - Release Date: 5/12/2006 >>3:00 >>AM >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.7/569 - Release Date: 5/12/2006 >>3:00 >>AM >> >> >> >> >> >>Queensland Dead Persons Society >>Toowoomba www.audps.com >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces > friends module. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk > > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > Toowoomba www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Read here for some explanation of why street names changed and how to research them: http://eresearch.griffith.edu.au/brisbanememories/index.php/The_History_of_Street_Naming_in_Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Arthur" <maltesemanor@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:27 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Where was Frances street, The Valley, in 1888? > Hello listers, > I have looked through the 1880's Qld Post Office Directory for my > ancestors, > and found that one family lived for several years at Frances street, The > Valley. > > I know that The Valley was another name for Fortitude Valley near Brisbane > city. But where was Frances street? A check of current street directories > seems to show that Frances street no longer exists. > > Can anyone suggest where I may find out where Frances street The Valley > was > in the late 1880's? > > Many thanks, > Maureen > > _________________________________________________________________ > Advertisement: Getting married? Tell us why to WIN @ LetsShop > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eletsshop%2Ecom%2FCompetitions%2FLetsMarry%2Ftabid%2F549%2FDefault%2Easpx&_t=751480117&_r=HM_tagline_letsshop_wedding&_m=EXT > > > > > Queensland Dead Persons Society > Toowoomba www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks for that info, Kathryn. In the several PO directories I have seen, the street was always spelt "Frances". I wonder if this is the same street as Francis in Kangaroo Point? I agree with you about the Brisbane boundaries. I have people around that period that were born in what we call Brisbane now, but they were registered as non-Brisbane births. Maureen. >From: "Kathryn " <kmc240963@optusnet.com.au> >Reply-To: aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com >To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Where was Frances street, The Valley,in >1888? >Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 17:45:10 +1000 > >Dear Maureen > >I have no idea whether this is use or not but before the formation of >Greater >Brisbane, there was a Francis Street in Kangaroo Point. There is no mention >of a >Francis St. in Fortitude Valley. The one in Kangaroo Pt. is now called >Anglesey >Street. I guess it depends on where the suburb boundaries were in the >1880s. But >I would have thought they were smaller not larger. > >Ref: Teague, David (1994) "Directory of Street Name Changes"; bought from >Windsor & Districts Historical Society.(very handy booklet, usually) > >Regards, >Kathryn > >From: aus-qld-brisbane-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:aus-qld-brisbane-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maureen Arthur >Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 3:28 PM >To: AUS-QLD-BRISBANE@rootsweb.com >Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Where was Frances street, The Valley, in 1888? > >Hello listers, >I have looked through the 1880's Qld Post Office Directory for my >ancestors, >and found that one family lived for several years at Frances street, The >Valley. > >I know that The Valley was another name for Fortitude Valley near Brisbane >city. But where was Frances street? A check of current street directories >seems to show that Frances street no longer exists. > >Can anyone suggest where I may find out where Frances street The Valley was >in the late 1880's? > >Many thanks, >Maureen > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > >Queensland Dead Persons Society >Toowoomba www.audps.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.7/569 - Release Date: 5/12/2006 >3:00 >AM > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.7/569 - Release Date: 5/12/2006 >3:00 >AM > > > > > >Queensland Dead Persons Society >Toowoomba www.audps.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk