Would you kindly delete this email address from your database as Jim has passed away. Thank you. Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <jmartin17@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] WARRENER / ALDRIDGE > Good morning Jan, > > Charles WARRENER died 8 Nov 1902 / 005057 and his wife Emmeline > ALDRIDGE died 14 July 1910 / B012731 (Father: William ALDRIDGE - > Mother: Fanney PEARSON) > > children:- > > Sarah Ann Teresa WARRENER born 1 Oct 1874 / B018019 > Alfred WARRENER died 6 Aug 1875 / B009813 > Frederick John WARRENER born 26 Dec 1876 / 001788 > Alice WARRENER born 11 Oct 1879 / 004601 and died 28 Jan 1881 / 002044 > George Charles WARRENER died 6 Aug 1907 / 004023 > > The family arrived on the 'Great Queensland' on 2 Sept 1873 - Ref: > IMM/114 Page 460 Film 1697 > > Charles WARRENER age 38 > Emily age 36 > Susan M age 13 > Eliza age 11 > George C age 6 > Henry A age 5 > and Alfred age 1 > > Happy hunting... > Janet > Hervey Bay > > ***** > : Hi List > : > : Would anyone have access to Qld deaths between 1878 and about 1930 > : who would > : do a lookup for me. > : > : I am trying to find the deaths of Charles ALDRIDGE (he may be > : recorded as > : WARRENER) and Emily ALDRIDGE (she may be recorded as Emily WARRENER). > : > : I know that they were alive and living at Paddington, Brisbane when > : their > : daughter Susan Maria ALDRIDGE was married. That puts their deaths > : anywhere > : in the above years and to add to my headache, Charles appears to have > : been > : Charles WARRENER and then changed his name to ALDRIDGE. > : > : Thanks > : Jan > : > : > : > : > : > : > : ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > : ---- > : I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > : It has removed 3194 spam emails to date. > : Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > : Try SPAMfighter for free now! > : > : > : > : > : > : > : Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > : www.audps.com > : ------------------------------- > : To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > : AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > : without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would you kindly delete this email address from your database as Jim has passed away. Thank you. Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathryn " <kmc240963@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:32 AM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Slightly off topic - Storing your documentsacid-free in foolscap! > Dear List, > > Apologies for this being a tad off topic. I decided this long weekend that > I > would start re-sorting my files. As you do. I currently keep my > certificates in > those plastic folders with built in plastic flimsy see-through sleeves. > They do > not hold enough and aren’t acid –free. So I thought I’d buy some/lots of > foolscap (which I need because my older BDM certificates are foolscap > sized) > acid-free sheet protectors (which I have always called plastic envelopes) > and > some brightly coloured foolscap lever-arched folders. I should have > realised > what I thought would be simple was not going to be. I am unable to buy the > sheet > protectors (because “no-one uses foolscap any more” – I’ve had to bite my > tongue > quite often) and I’ve only seen one foolscap sized folder – black. > > Does anyone know where in Brisbane, I can buy these things (I live on the > north > western side and would want around here or in the city) or where, further > afield, i.e. another state, from whence I can have them sent to me. I know > they > are available in England but I don’t want to have to do that. Plus I don’t > know > how one does that and imagine the postage costs! > > Yes I have photocopies which are A4 but I still need to store the > originals. > I do not wish to store them loose in a box as I like to look at them and I > refer > to them and show to others. > If someone out there knows of a supplier, please let me know. > > Thanks very much, > Kathryn > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.11/652 - Release Date: > 25/01/2007 3:32 > PM > > > > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I was at the State Library again yesterday (gosh, it's good being on holidays) and happened to have a conversation with one staff member in the microform area and overheard some other conversations between staff and visitors. I won't name the staff members involved, but they are all ones you would probably know if you are a regular visitor. Anyway, the upshot of these various conversations is that there are now 2 fewer microfilm reader/printers than there used to be, which is why there are often no free ones. I got the last free one yesterday but later arrivals had to queue. And yes the staff in that area are well aware that the ergonomics are poor and need to be attended to. However, the staff say that the management is not listening to them, and they (the staff) want the public to complain about these matters in the hope that management will start to listen. So if you have visited and weren't satisfied with the experience, here's that URL ... www.slq.qld.gov.au/feedback If you are wanting a microfilm reader/printer (where printer includes USB/email capability), the best time to go would seem to be either first thing in the morning or mid-afternoon (remembering they are open till 8pm Mon-Thurs). It's the mid-morning to mid-afternoon period that seems to have the highest demand. Kerry

Kerry, I have used the online service and within a few weeks have had very good information sent to me. Just before Xmas I sent for some more information and am waiting to hear from them. We have been away so there may be an answer at our Post Office Box today when I go down to check. Rather than going through the snail mail I would give it a go. Marie

If the book was about him, he may appear as a subject term (or in the title) which will appear in the catalogue, so you could try to just search the catalogue. http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/find/cat Kerry

> Can anyone please advise me how to access this info? I'm very hesitant > to send another letter to meet the same fate as the first. A lot of people claim success in using the online enquiry form: http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/services/ask I would be tempted to give it another go using the online service. Certainly there has been a lot of disruption over the past few months due to the relocation from the temporary premises back to the new premises, and one could easily imagine how a paper letter could have got lost in the move. Kerry

G'day Robyn. What is your father's full name, and for what area was he awared the title? Maureen. >From: Robyn <buzzy321@earthlink.net> >Reply-To: Robyn <buzzy321@earthlink.net>, aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com >To: aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com >Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Davidson - Entrepreneur of the Year >Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 06:36:16 -0800 (GMT-08:00) > >Morning from Florida, USA: Several months ago, I wrote snail-mail to the >State Library, seeking info about my grandfather who had been named >Entrepreneur of the Year, way back around 1930's. Evidently he was either >mentioned in a book, or the book was about him. > >Have been reading current messages about the "New" State Library, and I'm >afraid my letter from September has been lost. > >Can anyone please advise me how to access this info? I'm very hesitant to >send another letter to meet the same fate as the first. > >Any help will be greatly appreciated. R. Nelson > > > > > >Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: 50% off on Xbox 360, PS and Nintendo Wii titles! http://www.play-asia.com/SOap-23-83-4lab-71-bn-49-en-84-k-40-extended.html

Thank you David & Kerry for your replies and websites....I have found them extremely interesting and helpful. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: <aus-qld-brisbane-request@rootsweb.com>

> Have you sent a copy of your email to the State Library so they are aware > of these shortcomings and hopefully will fix them? I didn't send them a copy of my email to this list (as it touched on too many matters) but I did go to: www.slq.qld.gov.au/feedback and write about my concerns over the crowding and shortage of equipment (with some praise for things like support for USB sticks and email). I would encourage anyone who visits to provide feedback (both good and bad). Clearly if enough people tell them the same things, they may be moved to take action. As well as the WWW form above, there are little paper feedback forms (labelled Service Commitment on one side and Vistor Feedback on the other side) available at the counters in most parts of the library, which also gives the e-mail address info@slq.qld.gov.au as another way to communicate your feedback. On the WWW form and the paper form, there is a tick-the-box-if-you-want-a-response which will supposedly get you a reply to your feedback within 10 working days. I ticked the box ... I await my response. Kerry

Hi Kerry I visited the State Library last Wednesday and I have to agree with what you found. The staff were run off their feet and there was a long wait for readers with other facilities. I used one of the old ones without printers as I had only a few funeral notices to look up and then move on to the indexes. As a short person I had trouble seeing the screen and had to stand up to read the funeral notices. Have you sent a copy of your email to the State Library so they are aware of these shortcomings and hopefully will fix them? I am particularly concerned with the layout of readers and just shortage of space and microfilm readers. Genealogy is a fast growing hobby and with the baby-boomers starting to retire, there will be many more people wanting access. I did note the vast bank of internet and email computers on the first floor for the use of mainly backpackers. What about looking after local residents and fellow Queenslanders! As for the restuarant - I was forewarned about the cost etc and took my own and just sat in the nearby area and had my lunch. Thank you for your advice about using an USB device. Happy hunting Pam in Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Raymond" <kerry.raymond@gmail.com> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com>; <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:18 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] The "new" State Library of Queensland > Being on holidays, I finally got around to visiting the "new" State > Library today. I mostly spent my time in the family history and microform > area; my quest being to lookup funeral notices in the Courier-Mail. >>snip<<

Morning from Florida, USA: Several months ago, I wrote snail-mail to the State Library, seeking info about my grandfather who had been named Entrepreneur of the Year, way back around 1930's. Evidently he was either mentioned in a book, or the book was about him. Have been reading current messages about the "New" State Library, and I'm afraid my letter from September has been lost. Can anyone please advise me how to access this info? I'm very hesitant to send another letter to meet the same fate as the first. Any help will be greatly appreciated. R. Nelson

See http://www.saintmarys.org.au/history.htm It mentions Rector Rev David Court in 1870 ... I am not sure if there was a Lutheran church at Kangaroo Point. There was one at South Brisbane which moved to Woolloongabba (to the present site at Hawthorne Street) in 1893 following the floods. http://tinyurl.com/yjt3t3 Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <birtles@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 8:02 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Re Ministers in Brisbane > Hello > > Could anyone tell me the name of the church in Brisbane in February 1871 > where the minister at > the time was D.A. COURT please. > > My grandfather Henry Christian THOMPSON was baptised here. The family > lived at Kangaroo Point and although Henry's father was Lutheran I think > all > the children were baptised C/E. > > Thank you for your assistance. > Joan in NSW > > > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The C of E today is St Marys. However I think it dates from 1873. http://www.chapelhill.homeip.net/FamilyHistory/Photos/Churches/KangarooPoint-StMarys_Anglican/index.php The Archives site is http://www.anglicanarchives.org.au/ however it doesn't have a lot of info easily available. (I have seen more on their old site.) D.A. Court was associated with that church at a later time -: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hcastle/transcripts/bev_edmonds/transcripts/page11.html http://www.archivecdbooks.com.au/samplers/AU4115-1882s.pdf (There is also a St Mary's Catholic at South Brisbane a few miles away on the next reach of the river upstream. However it was on the same side of the river which was a big thing in Brisbane.). Project Canterbury http://www.anglicanhistory.org/search.html has a reference too http://anglicanhistory.org/aus/wickham_kissick1937/intro.html David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <birtles@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 8:02 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Re Ministers in Brisbane > Hello > > Could anyone tell me the name of the church in Brisbane in February 1871 > where the minister at > the time was D.A. COURT please. > > My grandfather Henry Christian THOMPSON was baptised here. The family > lived at Kangaroo Point and although Henry's father was Lutheran I think > all > the children were baptised C/E. > > Thank you for your assistance. > Joan in NSW > > > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Could anyone tell me the name of the church in Brisbane in February 1871 where the minister at the time was D.A. COURT please. My grandfather Henry Christian THOMPSON was baptised here. The family lived at Kangaroo Point and although Henry's father was Lutheran I think all the children were baptised C/E. Thank you for your assistance. Joan in NSW

> The Sydney Dead Persons Society who index the Ryerson Index have > re-commenced indexing the BDM notices in the Courier Mail. They had > stopped > doing so a couple of years ago because of the threat of legal action for > copyright but have since been advised by Rootsweb that it was not an > issue. The Ryerson Index is only an index and isn't reproducing the BDM notices themselves, so I don't see how it could have been a breach of copyright. Indeed, you have wonder why the C-M would have threatened legal action, surely their lawyers knew it was not a breach of copyright. But it does suggest that C-M have a fairly aggressive stance on copyright, which does not bode well for asking their permission for anything :-( Kerry

Hi Kerry, The Sydney Dead Persons Society who index the Ryerson Index have re-commenced indexing the BDM notices in the Courier Mail. They had stopped doing so a couple of years ago because of the threat of legal action for copyright but have since been advised by Rootsweb that it was not an issue. I am not aware of what other Queensland Newspapers they cover, I think they are presently looking for a volunteer to do the Ipswich paper. Maybe some other lister can let us know. Carol Wood

> And of course I can now easily share my "print-outs" with > others -- as I did above. Well, my point about ease of sharing has already been proven, as someone has already contacted me because the printout I published as an example of the "post-it note" also happened to be of interest to their research! Which makes me think ... if everyone who saved their images onto USB or emailed them to themselves could publish those scans on the WWW, we could build up a large collection of scans of BDM notices for relatively little effort. Now I had zoomed in to get the scans of the particular notices I was interested in, but I could have probably scanned the entire page of the Courier-Mail in about 2 scans if I had tried. And of course other newspapers with smaller amounts of BDM notices could easily fit in a single scan for each day. So my rough estimate is about 1G of data for 3 years worth of most newspapers (maybe a bit more for the C-Mail) -- which isn't much (for comparison, our WWW site uses about 8G currently for headstone photos). There is of course a small copyright issue involved. It is within "fair dealing" to take small amounts for your own research, but republishing via the WWW is not within fair dealing. That's the only real issue as I see it. Kerry

Thanks Kerry. That was very infomative. We went on Monday, travelling up from Gold Coast. Afraid our experiences were a little disappointing though the facilities appear to be great. Seems they have not got their cataloguing sorted out yet and some books are not where their enquiry system says they are. Consequently, despite ordering books by phone before we left, they were not available when we arrived and 50% could not be located on site. We attempted to get information from the staff at the entry of Level 3 who tried hard to help but were not highly successful. It was only when we were about to leave that we discovered that the staff in the micro area are much better informed on genealogical matters. Seems best to go straight to them. The books we wanted to see used to be on open shelves but now there are VERY few in that situation - almost everything has to be ordered and this is where you fall foul of the relocation problems and apparently are likely to do so through most of Feb. We did not use the micro readers but were impressed by the increased space genarally though must agree that nobody was looking at the Music which filled a very large %age of the available shelf space. There are no self-service bag lockers - we asked after having to wait for the bag to be taken at entry. They seemed keen for very little to get taken upstairs! We actually decided it was easier to leave any extras in the car underneath. We took our lunch and sat by the River - so no comment on the Cafe! Weather permitting, the break outside is usally worthwhile! Hope this is of use to someone contemplating a visit. Maybe we can consider a petition to increase the Genealogical area and shelf space? Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: Kerry Raymond To: aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com ; aus-qld@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:18 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] The "new" State Library of Queensland Being on holidays, I finally got around to visiting the "new" State Library today. I mostly spent my time in the family history and microform area; my quest being to lookup funeral notices in the Courier-Mail. Generally the "new" building is pretty swishy -- it's hard to believe it's the same building (not that I had a lot of complaints about the old building apart from the crowding and shortage of equipment and lack of open access in the microfilm area). They seem less worried about people bringing in bags -- small bags are now permitted in most areas and they have a cloak room to check in larger stuff. No sign of the old self-service lockers, but maybe they are hiding somewhere. The cafe has gone upmarket in terms of having a fancier menu (out go the sandwiches and in come the frittatas) and having table service, but of course that also pushes the prices up (and they tried to overcharge me by $2 on my frittata)! The bad news is the cafe is no longer overlooking the river; I really used to enjoy sitting looking out on the river during a break. Of course, there are plenty of river views from within the building, but not from the microfilm area (did we do something to offend the management -- certainly family history and microfilm reading seem to have got the rough end of the pineapple in the new scheme of things?). Parking is still available underneath - $10 per entry compared with $5 previously, but there's a person to collect your money, no need to mess with coins at the gate as it used to be. The route to get to the parking is rather convoluted but if you follow the signs, you do get there. So all in all, a visit will be more expensive in terms of parking and eating, but you will save on the new lower printing prices -- read on. > It was not too busy today; though you may have to wait a while to get > help from the staff as they are in demand. If anyone finds this a > problem, let the library know and hopefully we'll get more staff on. It was pretty busy today (Tuesday) in the middle of the day. All microfilm and microfiche equipment in use and people waiting. Similarly the staff were in high demand, although they did have to spend a fair bit of time showing people how to print etc using the new system -- I guess over time regular visitors will be familiar with the process and need less help. However, at least staff time isn't wasted on doing retrievals as it used to be. It looks like most of the films and fiches are on open access in shelves and drawers (not sure if all are on open access, but everything I wanted was). This is definitely a Good Thing! And of course many of the staff were familiar faces albeit in their new black-with-red-accent uniforms, and they were their usual patient and helpful selves. As I waited somewhat impatiently for a microfilm reader/"printer" to become available today, I wandered around the rest of level 3, which was largely deserted. There were lots of empty tables and chairs, lots of empty seats in front of computers, nobody accessing the music collection (also on open access), staff standing idle at counters. I could not but wonder why the state library allocated to much space to facilities people don't use compared with the rather crowded and busy family history & microfilm area. The contrast was very noticeable. If it is that busy mid-week, what will the weekends be like? And the family history & microfilm area is very crowded and as a consequence somewhat awkwardly laid out (not as good as the setup at Cannon Hill for comparison). Which all seemed a bit ridiculous in a newly renovated building with lots of under-used space on the same floor. > You can scan currently displayed image using standard Windows imaging > s/w; then any of: > - save to your USB memory stick (there are 2 ports at front of terminal) > - no charge > - email to yourself (requires webmail access) - no charge > - send to their b&w or colour printer - charges apply > I think b&w pages are 10c (colour $1); so even printing is a lot cheaper > than before Having heard this, I took along my USB stick -- half a gig so plenty of space for lots of free microfilmed newspaper pages (takes about 1M each). But given the old printing cost was $1.10 on the microfilm readers (which was claimed to be the price necessary to cover the cost of the equipment), paying only 10c per page is still a pretty good deal! Note that there is no longer a printer beside each microfilm reader; the print-outs are sent to a printer service and you must go to one of their stations and retrieve it (I didn't try it but I think you have to get a card which you charge up with money, as opposed to putting coins in the slot of the printer). One drawback of this new system is that you can no longer write on the back of your printout as it appears beside you at the microfilm reader. I used to write down the details of the newspaper and the date on the back while I still had the film in the reader. Since you no longer can get an immediate print-out, you can't do this so you will have to record such details somewhere else. I started out by naming the files on my USB stick with names like CM-1994-04-30-Thurs, so I would have a record of where they were. But then I saw a neat trick with the scanning program. After you have scanned the image and you can see it on-screen (on the PC, not the microfilm reader), you can use the Annotate menu (on the menu bar) to add information to your print-out. There were many kinds of annotation -- I used one called post-it note (or sticky note or something like that) which gives you a yellow rectangle on which you can type in notes. I used the "note" feature to record the name of the newspaper and the date. Then when you save/print/email, you have the image annotated so you will remember where it came from (obviously, put the note on a part of the page you don't need for your research). I am printing my saved images out at home as I write this and the little yellow notes are very clear and easy to read. If you want to see an example, I have put one up on our WWW site (note that your browser may automatically resize it to fit onto your screen, so it may be quite a bit smaller than the real thing): http://www.chapelhill.homeip.net/FamilyHistory/Other/example.JPG What I didn't realise at the time, is that having used the "note" feature" I could have called my files Smith-John-funeral-notice, which would have made it even easier for me later. Well, I shall remember for next time. But certainly the use of a USB stick was a very convenient alternative to printing. And of course I can now easily share my "print-outs" with others -- as I did above. One final point about the microfilm equipment. I don't know if the tables are higher or the chairs are lower, but I found the microfilm reader screen way too high -- my eye was level with the bottom of the screen and I'm taller than average for a woman. I found I had to tilt my head back to view the screen -- quite literally a pain in the neck. I think a shorter person would definitely be very uncomfortable -- bring a cushion! By wandering around the floor, I did manage to find a taller chair provided at a bench-style table, which I moved to my microfilm reader, which improved things a bit. Yes, the chairs provided were gas-lift, but even at their highest were way too low. What does everyone else think about the "new" library? Kerry Toowoomba Dead Persons Society www.audps.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Kerry, Your information, I have found very useful as comming from CQ I don't get to Brisbane all that often, but now I am aware of the procedure and will be armed accordingly. Thanks again Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Raymond" <kerry.raymond@gmail.com> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com>; <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:18 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] The "new" State Library of Queensland > Being on holidays, I finally got around to visiting the "new" State Library > today. I mostly spent my time in the family history and microform area; my > quest being to lookup funeral notices in the Courier-Mail. > > Generally the "new" building is pretty swishy -- it's hard to believe it's > the same building (not that I had a lot of complaints about the old > building apart from the crowding and shortage of equipment and lack of open > access in the microfilm area). > > They seem less worried about people bringing in bags -- small bags are now > permitted in most areas and they have a cloak room to check in larger stuff. > No sign of the old self-service lockers, but maybe they are hiding > somewhere. > > The cafe has gone upmarket in terms of having a fancier menu (out go the > sandwiches and in come the frittatas) and having table service, but of > course that also pushes the prices up (and they tried to overcharge me by $2 > on my frittata)! The bad news is the cafe is no longer overlooking the > river; I really used to enjoy sitting looking out on the river during a > break. Of course, there are plenty of river views from within the building, > but not from the microfilm area (did we do something to offend the > management -- certainly family history and microfilm reading seem to have > got the rough end of the pineapple in the new scheme of things?). > > Parking is still available underneath - $10 per entry compared with $5 > previously, but there's a person to collect your money, no need to mess with > coins at the gate as it used to be. The route to get to the parking is > rather convoluted but if you follow the signs, you do get there. > > So all in all, a visit will be more expensive in terms of parking and > eating, but you will save on the new lower printing prices -- read on. > > > It was not too busy today; though you may have to wait a while to get > > help from the staff as they are in demand. If anyone finds this a > > problem, let the library know and hopefully we'll get more staff on. > > It was pretty busy today (Tuesday) in the middle of the day. All microfilm > and microfiche equipment in use and people waiting. Similarly the staff were > in high demand, although they did have to spend a fair bit of time showing > people how to print etc using the new system -- I guess over time regular > visitors will be familiar with the process and need less help. However, at > least staff time isn't wasted on doing retrievals as it used to be. It looks > like most of the films and fiches are on open access in shelves and drawers > (not sure if all are on open access, but everything I wanted was). This is > definitely a Good Thing! And of course many of the staff were familiar faces > albeit in their new black-with-red-accent uniforms, and they were their > usual patient and helpful selves. > > As I waited somewhat impatiently for a microfilm reader/"printer" to become > available today, I wandered around the rest of level 3, which was largely > deserted. There were lots of empty tables and chairs, lots of empty seats in > front of computers, nobody accessing the music collection (also on open > access), staff standing idle at counters. I could not but wonder why the > state library allocated to much space to facilities people don't use > compared with the rather crowded and busy family history & microfilm area. > The contrast was very noticeable. If it is that busy mid-week, what will the > weekends be like? And the family history & microfilm area is very crowded > and as a consequence somewhat awkwardly laid out (not as good as the setup > at Cannon Hill for comparison). Which all seemed a bit ridiculous in a newly > renovated building with lots of under-used space on the same floor. > > > You can scan currently displayed image using standard Windows imaging > > s/w; then any of: > > - save to your USB memory stick (there are 2 ports at front of terminal) > > - no charge > > - email to yourself (requires webmail access) - no charge > > - send to their b&w or colour printer - charges apply > > I think b&w pages are 10c (colour $1); so even printing is a lot cheaper > > than before > > Having heard this, I took along my USB stick -- half a gig so plenty of > space for lots of free microfilmed newspaper pages (takes about 1M each). > But given the old printing cost was $1.10 on the microfilm readers (which > was claimed to be the price necessary to cover the cost of the equipment), > paying only 10c per page is still a pretty good deal! > > Note that there is no longer a printer beside each microfilm reader; the > print-outs are sent to a printer service and you must go to one of their > stations and retrieve it (I didn't try it but I think you have to get a card > which you charge up with money, as opposed to putting coins in the slot of > the printer). One drawback of this new system is that you can no longer > write on the back of your printout as it appears beside you at the microfilm > reader. I used to write down the details of the newspaper and the date on > the back while I still had the film in the reader. Since you no longer can > get an immediate print-out, you can't do this so you will have to record > such details somewhere else. I started out by naming the files on my USB > stick with names like CM-1994-04-30-Thurs, so I would have a record of where > they were. > > But then I saw a neat trick with the scanning program. After you have > scanned the image and you can see it on-screen (on the PC, not the microfilm > reader), you can use the Annotate menu (on the menu bar) to add information > to your print-out. There were many kinds of annotation -- I used one called > post-it note (or sticky note or something like that) which gives you a > yellow rectangle on which you can type in notes. I used the "note" feature > to record the name of the newspaper and the date. Then when you > save/print/email, you have the image annotated so you will remember where it > came from (obviously, put the note on a part of the page you don't need for > your research). I am printing my saved images out at home as I write this > and the little yellow notes are very clear and easy to read. If you want to > see an example, I have put one up on our WWW site (note that your browser > may automatically resize it to fit onto your screen, so it may be quite a > bit smaller than the real thing): > > http://www.chapelhill.homeip.net/FamilyHistory/Other/example.JPG > > What I didn't realise at the time, is that having used the "note" feature" I > could have called my files Smith-John-funeral-notice, which would have made > it even easier for me later. Well, I shall remember for next time. But > certainly the use of a USB stick was a very convenient alternative to > printing. And of course I can now easily share my "print-outs" with > others -- as I did above. > > One final point about the microfilm equipment. I don't know if the tables > are higher or the chairs are lower, but I found the microfilm reader screen > way too high -- my eye was level with the bottom of the screen and I'm > taller than average for a woman. I found I had to tilt my head back to view > the screen -- quite literally a pain in the neck. I think a shorter person > would definitely be very uncomfortable -- bring a cushion! By wandering > around the floor, I did manage to find a taller chair provided at a > bench-style table, which I moved to my microfilm reader, which improved > things a bit. Yes, the chairs provided were gas-lift, but even at their > highest were way too low. > > What does everyone else think about the "new" library? > > Kerry > > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Having heard this, I took along my USB stick -- half a gig so plenty of > space for lots of free microfilmed newspaper pages (takes about 1M each). For those of you not familiar with USB sticks, these are physically tiny "disks" that connect (and are powered) via your USB port on your computer. They are a popular way to move data between computers (I have one for my work on which I carry all my Powerpoint presentations). You can buy them in a range of disk capacity ranging from about 128M to 8G (and priced accordingly). Here's an example of a small cheap one from Dick Smith Electronics: http://tinyurl.com/yz5wgc which would hold about 128 "printouts" (more than enough for a visit to the state library). Of course having copied the "printouts" onto your home computer, you can delete them from your USB stick and reuse it. Your USB stick looks just like a normal "folder" on your computer; you can open files, rename them, delete them etc in the normal way. You can buy them from any computer store or electronics store (and probably a lot of other places -- your newsagent may have them). Note USB sticks are not the same as the memory cards you put in your digital camera. Kerry