Hi Jan, Do you have either the birth certificate or the marriage certificate? There is no father listed on the birth certificate and I can see no marriage for a Laura Jane Hartwell. 1908/C11075 Hartwell Mary Ann Laura Jane Hartwell 1928/C2383 Lardner Victor Joseph Hartwell Mary Ann Laura Jane Hartwell seems to have had 2 more illegitimate children who both died young. 1912/B15837 Hartwell William - Laura Jane Hartwell ** born Queensland aged 7 months 1910/B13148 Hartwell Enid - Laura Hartwell ** born Queensland aged 9 months Victor Lardner was born in Brisbane 1900/B1162 Lardner Victor Joseph Michael Elizabeth Waine All this information is available on line but you probably need those certificates to get much further. Carol

Hi Listers I,m making enquiries about a Mary Ann Hartwell born 1908 (maybe her mother's name was Laura ) in Queensland more than likely around Toowoomba - Brisbane areas, she may have married a Victor Joseph Lardner 1928 in Queensland that is all the information I have knowledge of, would anyone be able to give me any more information on Mary Ann e.g. where she was born, where she lived as a child and where she married, would be grateful for any information. Thank you. Jan Morrissey

Hi All Is anyone aware of shipping lists of people leaving Australia to return to England in the period 1890-1939? Cheers Jane and Doug Hinton Canberra <gregh2@iinet.net.au>

Hi listers posting a few names in the chance some one has a few in their lines , my uncle " Frank Norman Cowen [m] Doris Edna Harten 1935?? + had 2 sons and 1 girl mainly lived at Commercial Rd Valley + his brother "Allan Robert Cowen [m] Ella Enid Mitchell circa 1937 they also ahd 2 sons 1 girl etc , cheers Terry Murphy

Hi I am hoping that someone else is also researching the above name. I have in my tree a Victoria Ruth Wall b.1970-71 in Brisbane, Qld., .mother Kathryn b.abt.1950 in the UK If you are also researching this particular family please contact me. Regards June

Hi All Thanks for that. Mary Harding COLLAMORE was not listed. Cheers Jane and Doug Hinton Canberra <gregh2@iinet.net.au> -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-brisbane-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-brisbane-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Raymond Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 8:02 AM To: aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] DIVORCE RECORDS 1889-1920 > > Does anyone have information on whether divorce in Queensland in the > period > 1889-1920 would be recorded? If so how and where? See here for some (but not all): http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/research/index/divorces.asp Toowoomba Dead Persons Society www.audps.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>> Does anyone have information on whether divorce in Queensland in the >> period >> 1889-1920 would be recorded? If so how and where? Also, read this http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/downloads/SearchProcedures/sp6_divorce.pdf

> > Does anyone have information on whether divorce in Queensland in the > period > 1889-1920 would be recorded? If so how and where? See here for some (but not all): http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/research/index/divorces.asp

Hi Pam I have just realised that we are distantly connected. William Albert WILLMOT & Frances Rosa Agnes SIGSTON your grt grandparents had a daughter Eliza Emma who married William Edwin Richardson who descends from my Rollason line. Have we corresponded in the past? Regards Helen

Hello Jenny My rellies lived right on the beach and we used to visit them. Their name was WILLMOT and Mrs Frederick Willmot owned a shop at Cribb Island. I lived at Sandgate. Pam Dale (nee Cooper) Researching the families of William Albert WILLMOT & Frances Rosa Agnes SIGSTON - my grt grandparents From: "Pam Dale" <pamjdale@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] CRIBB ISLAND Hi Jenny Are you in Brisbane? I have just returned to the City Council library system, a book about Cribb Island, put out by the Nundah Historical Society. You can look for it and if you are a member, order online and they will let you know when it is available. Lots of photos and info re residents. What were you rellies names? Pam in Brisbane Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:15:59 +1000 From: "Jenny" <ryjosa@iprimus.com.au> Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Cribb Island To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Hi All, My Grandparents lived at Cribb Island until they died in 1978/1979 obviously not long before the Island was taken in 1980. I am trying to find an old map of Jackson's Estate. I have found one on the web for Cribb Island but I don't think it includes Jackson's Estate which you turned left into when you got to Cribbie. Some lovely people helped me before to find a map for Astor Terrace but I have deleted the link, I think it was the National Library, perhaps I might find one there if anyone can help with that. I was a teenager then and remember the many trips to Cribbie and am trying to replot from memory where they lived. We have no photos and there are very few on the web. If anyone has photos particularly Jacksons Estate I would love a copy, Thanks for any help, Jenny

Hi All Does anyone have information on whether divorce in Queensland in the period 1889-1920 would be recorded? If so how and where? Cheers Jane and Doug Hinton Canberra <gregh2@iinet.net.au>

Hi I am researching the name Willmot the ones I am looking for descended from Willmots who lived in the Derbyshire area of the U.K Best wishes to all June

Thanks Kerry, Is it possible to send me a copy of the streets from the street directory if you have it, I know their house was right on the beach, and the last in the street & possibly the estate. I could probably find it with a map (it's only for me to reminisce). Can't remember seeing street signs anywhere. I have also read a lot about it on the net, did not realize after the government bought the houses off people, that they rented those houses back out to other short term tenants until they were ready to demolish them. Sad. Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Raymond" <kerry.raymond@gmail.com> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Cribb Island > The 1955 street directory shows a little pocket of streets which would fit > your description (turn left when you got to Cribbie). The street names are > First St, Second St, Third St, Fourth St, Fifth St (creative, weren't > they) > and Reneman St. Do any of them ring a bell? > > Kerry > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jenny" <ryjosa@iprimus.com.au> > To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:15 PM > Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Cribb Island > > >> Hi All, >> My Grandparents lived at Cribb Island until they died in 1978/1979 >> obviously not long before the Island was taken in 1980. I am trying to >> find an old map of Jackson's Estate. I have found one on the web for >> Cribb >> Island but I don't think it includes Jackson's Estate which you turned >> left into when you got to Cribbie. Some lovely people helped me before to >> find a map for Astor Terrace but I have deleted the link, I think it was >> the National Library, perhaps I might find one there if anyone can help >> with that. I was a teenager then and remember the many trips to Cribbie >> and am trying to replot from memory where they lived. We have no photos >> and there are very few on the web. If anyone has photos particularly >> Jacksons Estate I would love a copy, >> Thanks for any help, >> Jenny >> >> >> >> >> >> Toowoomba Dead Persons Society >> www.audps.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Also if you google "cribb island jackson" you will turn up many stories and bits of history about the area. I found it entertaining reading even though I have no connection to that area. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny" <ryjosa@iprimus.com.au> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Cribb Island > Hi All, > My Grandparents lived at Cribb Island until they died in 1978/1979 > obviously not long before the Island was taken in 1980. I am trying to > find an old map of Jackson's Estate. I have found one on the web for Cribb > Island but I don't think it includes Jackson's Estate which you turned > left into when you got to Cribbie. Some lovely people helped me before to > find a map for Astor Terrace but I have deleted the link, I think it was > the National Library, perhaps I might find one there if anyone can help > with that. I was a teenager then and remember the many trips to Cribbie > and am trying to replot from memory where they lived. We have no photos > and there are very few on the web. If anyone has photos particularly > Jacksons Estate I would love a copy, > Thanks for any help, > Jenny > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Using Picture Queensland http://www.pictureqld.slq.qld.gov.au/ and the search "cribb island" I found many images. Using the search "cribb island jackson" I found 3 images. It's probably worth going there and playing around with the search facility and seeing what you find. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny" <ryjosa@iprimus.com.au> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Cribb Island > Hi All, > My Grandparents lived at Cribb Island until they died in 1978/1979 > obviously not long before the Island was taken in 1980. I am trying to > find an old map of Jackson's Estate. I have found one on the web for Cribb > Island but I don't think it includes Jackson's Estate which you turned > left into when you got to Cribbie. Some lovely people helped me before to > find a map for Astor Terrace but I have deleted the link, I think it was > the National Library, perhaps I might find one there if anyone can help > with that. I was a teenager then and remember the many trips to Cribbie > and am trying to replot from memory where they lived. We have no photos > and there are very few on the web. If anyone has photos particularly > Jacksons Estate I would love a copy, > Thanks for any help, > Jenny > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The 1955 street directory shows a little pocket of streets which would fit your description (turn left when you got to Cribbie). The street names are First St, Second St, Third St, Fourth St, Fifth St (creative, weren't they) and Reneman St. Do any of them ring a bell? Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny" <ryjosa@iprimus.com.au> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Cribb Island > Hi All, > My Grandparents lived at Cribb Island until they died in 1978/1979 > obviously not long before the Island was taken in 1980. I am trying to > find an old map of Jackson's Estate. I have found one on the web for Cribb > Island but I don't think it includes Jackson's Estate which you turned > left into when you got to Cribbie. Some lovely people helped me before to > find a map for Astor Terrace but I have deleted the link, I think it was > the National Library, perhaps I might find one there if anyone can help > with that. I was a teenager then and remember the many trips to Cribbie > and am trying to replot from memory where they lived. We have no photos > and there are very few on the web. If anyone has photos particularly > Jacksons Estate I would love a copy, > Thanks for any help, > Jenny > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jenny Are you in Brisbane? I have just returned to the City Council library system, a book about Cribb Island, put out by the Nundah Historical Society. You can look for it and if you are a member, order online and they will let you know when it is available. Lots of photos and info re residents. What were you rellies names? Pam in Brisbane Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:15:59 +1000 From: "Jenny" <ryjosa@iprimus.com.au> Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Cribb Island To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Hi All, My Grandparents lived at Cribb Island until they died in 1978/1979 obviously not long before the Island was taken in 1980. I am trying to find an old map of Jackson's Estate. I have found one on the web for Cribb Island but I don't think it includes Jackson's Estate which you turned left into when you got to Cribbie. Some lovely people helped me before to find a map for Astor Terrace but I have deleted the link, I think it was the National Library, perhaps I might find one there if anyone can help with that. I was a teenager then and remember the many trips to Cribbie and am trying to replot from memory where they lived. We have no photos and there are very few on the web. If anyone has photos particularly Jacksons Estate I would love a copy, Thanks for any help, Jenny

Hi All, My Grandparents lived at Cribb Island until they died in 1978/1979 obviously not long before the Island was taken in 1980. I am trying to find an old map of Jackson's Estate. I have found one on the web for Cribb Island but I don't think it includes Jackson's Estate which you turned left into when you got to Cribbie. Some lovely people helped me before to find a map for Astor Terrace but I have deleted the link, I think it was the National Library, perhaps I might find one there if anyone can help with that. I was a teenager then and remember the many trips to Cribbie and am trying to replot from memory where they lived. We have no photos and there are very few on the web. If anyone has photos particularly Jacksons Estate I would love a copy, Thanks for any help, Jenny

Is here anyone out there researching the KOHLER families from Warwick. Toowoomba and surrounding areas. In 1895 Friedrich Christian KOHLER married Jessie Maria SIGSTON (Cigalon on some indexes, but correct name is SIGSTON). Children are Cyril Frederick KOHLER married Harriett Parthenia SMITH Percy Charles Edward KOHLER married Amelia WALSH Jessie Caroline KOHLER married Roy Vivian LOCKE Frederick Christian (Frederick Charles Edward) KOHLER married Sarah Catherine CALLAGHAN Miriam May KOHLER married Victor Clarence HOPE Lillian Pearl KOHLER married Kenneth Bracke THOMPSON Estella Nancy KOHLER married Stanley Sidney LISTER Benjamin KOHLER & Kingsley KOHLER both died as babies Leslie KOHLER married Doris Mary HACKWOOD Olive KOHLER died as a baby Pansy Clarice KOHLER married Llewellyn Bruce Skippage FREE I am related through the SIGSTON side and am looking for descendents of this line. Pam in Brisbane

Maybe if we keep asking they will finally realise that Transcription Agents are the way to go. i have used Joy Murrin for NSW transcriptions and she is very good and replies are within a couple of weeks. Pam in Brisbane On 15 Jul 2008, at 4:31 PM, randgen@fastmail.com.au wrote: Maybe it is time to agitate for introduction of Transcription Agents in Qld. These agents are in NSW and WA and offer a service at a greatly reduced cost compared to buying the full certificate. For example, NSW full transcriptions are $17, partial (up to 5 fields) $14 and 3 fields $11. Another great service is to check and verify certain information to determine that this is the relevant ancestor. This costs $8 and you can provide several types of information, eg birth place, that need to be matched before proceeding to do a full certificate. Warren