Robyn asked: How do I find out about gr-grandfather (and gr-grandmother) coming to Australia from Scotland/England in 1864/1865? What is best source for ships' manifests - don't know if he landed in Vic. NSW or Qld. Have a look at http://www.access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/PROVguides/PROVguide023/PROVguide023.jsp Their shipping records are great. There are some similar records online for some other states - google Shipping records and the state name. SOME Qld shipping records are available online, but not all. You need to go to Qld Archives personally to check the card index. The website is: http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/ Good luck Margaret

Morning: How do I find out about gr-grandfather (and gr-grandmother) coming to Australia from Scotland/England in 1864/1865? What is best source for ships' manifests - don't know if he landed in Vic. NSW or Qld. Thanks for any help. R. Nelson

Hi Listers ,just to hop ? into this bakers queery ,I had a relation on my dads side "Alice Murphy " she [m] a "Percival Pemberton" circa 1933 apparently he was a "baker" by trade and won various awards , has any one links at all to the Pemberton link ,cheers Terry Murphy [Brisbane ]ps I have a photo of a shop they once owned noy sure where ? > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Baker's Guild/Union/etc (Sue Olsen) > 2. Re: Baker's Guild/Union/etc (Ruth) >-1 > > Mark, > The first place I would start looking is the postal directories.... they are > on microfiche. Searchable by year and also city or country... also > district.. brisbane.. is much easier than the other smaller districts of the > time.. and certainly one would think a baker would be listed. > > As for records pertaining to the bakers themselves unlikely.. It would more > be possible if they owned the business. in which there may be records.. or > certainly a will would tell you of any business... as it would have had to > be divided up. > > As far as I am aware there is not an industry body that goes back that > far.... > > > Regards > > Sue. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:04:05 +1100 > From: "Ruth" <ruthflet@tpg.com.au> > Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Baker's Guild/Union/etc > To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000801c97cf6$7de63e10$0100000a@OPTIMA0C1210C6> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Just remembered, Mark, have you tried the Sands Directories? I'm not sure if > they are available for QLD but they are for NSW and I found my grandfather > listed there as a baker. > Ruth. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Feodoroff" <mark_feodoroff@mail.com> > To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:38 AM > Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Baker's Guild/Union/etc > > >> Hi All, I have a number of relations (and some suspected ones) that were >> bakers in Brisbane in the mid to late19th century.Does anyone know if >> there is some sort of industry body that may have records for all the >> bakers around at that time? >> Cheers,Mark >> >> -- >> Be Yourself @ mail.com! >> Choose From 200+ Email Addresses >> Get a Free Account at www.mail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Toowoomba Dead Persons Society >> www.audps.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the AUS-QLD-BRISBANE list administrator, send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the AUS-QLD-BRISBANE mailing list, send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 15 > *********************************************** > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.10/1903 - Release Date: 1/19/2009 8:52 PM

Hi Mark, In the online catalogue for the State Library of Queensland http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/coll/qhist the following book is listed.  Hope this is helpful. Kind regards, Donna   Rules of the Master Bakers' Association of Queensland. Author/Creator: Master Bakers' Association of Queensland. ; Edition: rev. May 1907. Subjects: Master Bakers' Association of Queensland -- Rules and practice ; Bakers -- Queensland -- Societies, etc ; Publisher: Brisbane Qld. : Master Bakers' Association of Queensland Date: 1907 Description: 12 p. ; 17 cm. Language: English --- On Fri, 23/1/09, Ruth <ruthflet@tpg.com.au> wrote: From: Ruth <ruthflet@tpg.com.au> Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Baker's Guild/Union/etc To: aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com Received: Friday, 23 January, 2009, 9:04 AM Just remembered, Mark, have you tried the Sands Directories? I'm not sure if they are available for QLD but they are for NSW and I found my grandfather listed there as a baker. Ruth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Feodoroff" <mark_feodoroff@mail.com> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Baker's Guild/Union/etc > Hi All, I have a number of relations (and some suspected ones) that were > bakers in Brisbane in the mid to late19th century.Does anyone know if > there is some sort of industry body that may have records for all the > bakers around at that time? > Cheers,Mark > > -- > Be Yourself @ mail.com! > Choose From 200+ Email Addresses > Get a Free Account at www.mail.com > > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society >                             www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society                              www.audps.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox

Just remembered, Mark, have you tried the Sands Directories? I'm not sure if they are available for QLD but they are for NSW and I found my grandfather listed there as a baker. Ruth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Feodoroff" <mark_feodoroff@mail.com> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Baker's Guild/Union/etc > Hi All, I have a number of relations (and some suspected ones) that were > bakers in Brisbane in the mid to late19th century.Does anyone know if > there is some sort of industry body that may have records for all the > bakers around at that time? > Cheers,Mark > > -- > Be Yourself @ mail.com! > Choose From 200+ Email Addresses > Get a Free Account at www.mail.com > > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Mark, The first place I would start looking is the postal directories.... they are on microfiche. Searchable by year and also city or country... also district.. brisbane.. is much easier than the other smaller districts of the time.. and certainly one would think a baker would be listed. As for records pertaining to the bakers themselves unlikely.. It would more be possible if they owned the business. in which there may be records.. or certainly a will would tell you of any business... as it would have had to be divided up. As far as I am aware there is not an industry body that goes back that far.... Regards Sue.

Hi Mark, I'm not sure if there was or is any requirement for bakers or any other tradesmen for that matter to be licensed but bakery shops may have been. I know that in NSW they have to be licensed with the local council, ( I owned one once and so did my grandfather). I am looking for the same info for my grandfather when he was baking in London c. 1903-1912. Good Luck. Ruth,Sawtell NSW. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Feodoroff" <mark_feodoroff@mail.com> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Baker's Guild/Union/etc > Hi All, I have a number of relations (and some suspected ones) that were > bakers in Brisbane in the mid to late19th century.Does anyone know if > there is some sort of industry body that may have records for all the > bakers around at that time? > Cheers,Mark > > -- > Be Yourself @ mail.com! > Choose From 200+ Email Addresses > Get a Free Account at www.mail.com > > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi All, I have a number of relations (and some suspected ones) that were bakers in Brisbane in the mid to late19th century.Does anyone know if there is some sort of industry body that may have records for all the bakers around at that time? Cheers,Mark -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com

Anne; I am interested in McPHERSON, in Qld., from 1855 on, should you have time to check. Many Thanks. Edna MacPherson Sabato www.sabatech.net/scotchman ----- Original Message ----- From: "sean richo" <> To: <aus-qld-ipswich@rootsweb.com>; <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:40 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Assistance I am able to offer listers > Hi all > I've just introduced myself as the list admin. > I am able to do lookups on Ancestry (world membership) and World Vital > Records. I have an interest in North Qld and have a couple of Glenville > Pike's books if anyone is interested in lookups from those. I also have > the > Police Gazette Qld 1890 if anybody wants a lookup there. > I work full time so may take some time to complete lookups. I also live > in > Canberra and access the National Library on about a four to six weekly > basis > and am prepared to check information there for listers who are unable to > access information otherwise. > Anne

this delayed email stuff is also happening to the BK list I subscribe to with Rootsweb. Everyone is complaining. M > Regarding your last comment. This has happened to me a number of times in > the past few months where my email to the list has taken a number of days > to > appear. I have no idea why this is happening. Maybe the list > administrator > may have some clues.

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Hi Margaret, Thanks for your suggestions. My suspicion is that the child was raised by another family member not living in the area although I have nothing to base this assumption on other than the fact that the family member who stayed in the area (the mother of the child also stayed in the area) knows nothing about this child. Regarding your last comment. This has happened to me a number of times in the past few months where my email to the list has taken a number of days to appear. I have no idea why this is happening. Maybe the list administrator may have some clues. Bye, Rosemary M Chalmers Palmerston Bookkeeping Services Darwin NT Australia rosechal@iinet.net.au www.rmchalmers.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Greer" <mgreer1940@gil.com.au> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Qld Adoptions > Rosemary, > A relative was researching a Qld illegitimate birth, with no father > listed. > But the certificate said WHERE the baby was born, so he went to the > locality > and asked at the local church and was shown the baptismal register - and > the > baby was there, with the father's name in the appropriate place!!! (This > was in the 1890s) The baby in this case was raised by its grandmother. > > Maybe you could try that? Nothing to lose ... > Except of course you are in Darwin! Where was the baby born, maybe > someone > local could help? Or some other church records? > > BTW, your email was apparently sent on Fri 9 Jan, and I just received it, > Fri 16 Jan!!!! > > Margaret > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rosemary M Chalmers" <rosechal@iinet.net.au> > To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:43 PM > Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Qld Adoptions > > >> Hi Listers, >> >> Can anyone tell me when offical adoptions came into effect in Qld? >> >> I have found the birth of a child listed in the Qld Birth Indexes for >> 1908 >> however I cann't find a death record for her. Nor have I found a >> marriage >> record in the online indexes which go to 1929. >> >> For the birth there was no father listed and the child took the surname >> of >> the mother. I have therefore concluded that the child was illegitimate >> as >> it is known that the mother never married. I have been in contact with a >> family member who is 87 years old (and would be the 1st cousin of this >> child if my conclusions are correct) and she has no knowledge of a peson >> by this name in the family. >> >> I therefore suspect that this child was adopted out either offically or >> privately, hence my query. >> >> Bye, >> >> Rosemary M Chalmers >> Palmerston Bookkeeping Services >> Darwin NT Australia >> rosechal@iinet.net.au >> www.rmchalmers.net >> >> >> >> >> >> Toowoomba Dead Persons Society >> www.audps.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rosemary, A relative was researching a Qld illegitimate birth, with no father listed. But the certificate said WHERE the baby was born, so he went to the locality and asked at the local church and was shown the baptismal register - and the baby was there, with the father's name in the appropriate place!!! (This was in the 1890s) The baby in this case was raised by its grandmother. Maybe you could try that? Nothing to lose ... Except of course you are in Darwin! Where was the baby born, maybe someone local could help? Or some other church records? BTW, your email was apparently sent on Fri 9 Jan, and I just received it, Fri 16 Jan!!!! Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemary M Chalmers" <rosechal@iinet.net.au> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:43 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Qld Adoptions > Hi Listers, > > Can anyone tell me when offical adoptions came into effect in Qld? > > I have found the birth of a child listed in the Qld Birth Indexes for 1908 > however I cann't find a death record for her. Nor have I found a marriage > record in the online indexes which go to 1929. > > For the birth there was no father listed and the child took the surname of > the mother. I have therefore concluded that the child was illegitimate as > it is known that the mother never married. I have been in contact with a > family member who is 87 years old (and would be the 1st cousin of this > child if my conclusions are correct) and she has no knowledge of a peson > by this name in the family. > > I therefore suspect that this child was adopted out either offically or > privately, hence my query. > > Bye, > > Rosemary M Chalmers > Palmerston Bookkeeping Services > Darwin NT Australia > rosechal@iinet.net.au > www.rmchalmers.net > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Annette, HAPGOOD is certainly a rare enough name! I have a distant connection with these in Gloucestershire - any use to you? Cheers Steve in Brissie Annette Dobson wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am interested in > DOBSON > PETERS > VIETH > FISCHLE > HAPGOOD > DIECKMANN > LOBEGEIGER > > Regards > Annette > > > Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Steve Thanks for replying. The Hapgoods that I have are from Somerset (My Grand Aunt Florence Dobson married in Mooloolah Joseph Hapgood b. 1901 Milton, NSW) - Joseph's grandparents were George & Hannah Hapgood emigrated on the Lady Ann from Somerset with a brother Thomas & Esther. I don't know if they would be connected - haven't researched any further back on that branch. Thanks once again for the offer Kind Regards Annette ________________________________ From: Steven Sims <steven.sims.a@comcen.com.au> To: aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 16 January, 2009 3:03:12 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] ROLL CALL Hi Annette, HAPGOOD is certainly a rare enough name! I have a distant connection with these in Gloucestershire - any use to you? Cheers Steve in Brissie Annette Dobson wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am interested in > DOBSON > PETERS > VIETH > FISCHLE > HAPGOOD > DIECKMANN > LOBEGEIGER > > Regards > Annette > > >      Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox >  > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society >                              www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >  Toowoomba Dead Persons Society                             www.audps.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox

Hi Neil what Christian names doe you have for MANN Jan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil" <neilwillo@dodo.com.au> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] ROLL CALL > Hi All, > I am interested in > MANN > WILLIAMS > SATCHER > WENZEL(L) > RYLAND > ENGEL > BANDI(D)T(T) > LESLIE > > All from around the Brisbane - Toowoomba - Warwick - Jondaryan areas > > Been chipping away for a while and some of the brick walls are showing > visible cracks but they remain blockages. My next challenge is to access > the QFHS School Pupil databases and see if any of the children appear on > those across QLD to see if they moved into other areas. That should > enable > the cracks to expand...(I hope) > > Cheers > > Neil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug & Jan" <jst88221@bigpond.net.au> > To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:24 PM > Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] ROLL CALL > > >> My Family Names from in and around Brisbane ........ >> AKRED >> BOYS >> BORGESSON >> BRIANT >> BUDD >> CRAMPTON >> DALRYMPLE >> DEVINEY >> DOMJAHN >> DURSTON >> EGERT >> ENEVER >> FURLONG >> GILLESPIE >> GREER >> HALLIWELL >> HANSON >> HOHNKE >> HUTCHINSON >> JOHNSTON >> KELLY >> KENNETT >> LANDFORD >> LANGFORD >> MANN >> MASTERTON >> McINTYRE >> MOFFAT >> MUIR >> MURRAY >> NALDER >> ORTH >> PRATT >> PEGG >> QUINN >> ROBINSON >> SCRACE >> STAPLETON >> STEPHENSON >> TROYAHN >> THOMPSON >> TIBBITS >> TONGES >> WATSON >> WHITNEY >> >> cheers >> Jan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Toowoomba Dead Persons Society >> www.audps.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.7/1894 - Release Date: 14/01/2009 7:27 PM

Sorry Robyn it was supposed to go to someone else on the list. Carol

Hi Everyone, I am interested in DOBSON PETERS VIETH FISCHLE HAPGOOD DIECKMANN LOBEGEIGER Regards Annette Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox

> They have show Frank has being buried by Alex Gows Pty Ltd. The funeral > was at a church at Lutwyche then the cemetery is shown as "cremation". > I assume this means he was taken to the Crematorium at Albany Creek. I am pretty sure Albany Creek was not operating in the 1950s. It started later 1960s-70s. There was only one crematorium at that time: Mt Thompson Crematorium at Holland Park. Kerry

Hi Margery Find my past is the site to go to as they are now owned by Scotlands People who have the rights to publish the census. Either way can get you there. You will see Findmypast on the top right hand corner if you go to the link you have posted. The census site is powered by Findmypast. Yes it is a separate subscription but the units can be used on either site. Pam in Brisbane Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:58:56 +1100 From: "Margery W Phair" <m.phair@bigpond.com> Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] 1911 UK CENSUS RELEASED TOMORROW Hello Pam and all, I understand from other Lists that the 1911 census is available at www.1911census.co.uk Findmypast is only a link to the site and a separate subscription is required to access the census. Seems that there is some problems with it, but then we had a lot of trouble with the 1901 census at first.... Regards, Margery