Hi List Happy Easter Could any help me please I have Jane Veronica Molloy in the 1925 census in Queensland Can anybody find her in any other census /her death or even comming back to England Thank you Liz

Apologies for the cross-posting but this is a very useful resource for all Australian researchers. I received the following email from the National Library of Australia (NLA) digitisation project manager. I have written previously about what a valuable tool this project provides for Australian researchers. I have found over 100 references to one of my families which has given me a completely unexpected and delightful view of the life they led. They played what must have been an early version of Qld/NSW footie matches (State of Origin), exported wine to Europe and won medals for their products, helped establish a cricket club in Cessnock (this from a family of German emigrants!!!) and one of my relatives wrote occasional stroppy letters to the editor complaining about a wide variety of things. If you haven't tried the digitisation project I would recommend it highly and it will be interesting to see how the Archive below goes as well. I'd note that as per the email below "The Google viewer does not have the text correction feature." You can still search/browse and tag articles at the NLA project page at: http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home Hope this is useful Anne "Dear newspaper users I am pleased to announce that the Australian Newspapers (beta), and Papers Past (New Zealand) are now available via Google News Archive: http://news.google.com/archivesearch?ned=us&hl=en The Google archive is a sub part of the main Google news page (direct link to archive search from Google news page). Google intends to deliver newspapers via the Google News Archive only (not the main Google) at present. The Google News Archive consists of 3 resource types: 1. Newspapers digitised by Google and available via Google newspaper viewer (launched Sept 2008) 2. Digitised/online newspapers from other organisations that are free or cost and results go direct to those sources eg New York Times, Australian Newspapers beta, Papers Past (NZ), Sydney Morning Herald. 3. News from web sources. As far as I am aware the digitised Australian and New Zealand newspapers are the first non American newspaper content in Google News Archive, so this is a bit of a landmark event for users and for us. As far as I am aware a lot of users are unaware of this as a newspaper resource, though it is very useful. The Google newspaper viewer was developed and released 3 months after we released our beta version. Google programmers took a good look at our beta delivery service (and we had taken a good look at the Google map viewer) so both viewers look remarkably similar. The Google viewer does not have the text correction feature. The easiest way to find the old historical digitised newspapers is to go into 'advance search' and check the 'no price' box, then add your search terms. There is a date filter on the left that lets you find older things since the search seems to default to latest news first even in the archive search. For example search for Sydney Gazette. There is also a timeline option. If you are interested in viewing the digitised papers from Google in the Google newspaper viewer here are the instructions: (we do not know the extent or titles of the Google newspaper digitisation program). How to find Google Digitised Newspapers in the Google viewer: 1. Go to Home Page of Google News Archive http://news.google.com/archivesearch 2. Select Advanced search 3. Man on the moon - all words Check No price 4. In the Results list look for the title of a newspaper followed by - 'Google News Archive' in grey to find those Google have digitised that are available in their viewer. Click the link. The page should open in the viewer. 5. Once an article is found you can cite it by clicking 'link to this article' top right to get a persistent url. e.g. http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=8KAFAAAAIBAJ&dq=man%20on%20the%20moon&sjid=9TIDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6926%2C4212087 OR 1. In advanced search put in the source name eg Rome News Tribune or St. Petersburg Times (we're not sure what other titles they've digitised, can't seem to find a list) and check no price. Put no keywords in search box. Please feel free to promote the Google News Archive and the release of Australian Newspapers into it as appropriate. We have provided a site map for Google to harvest which ensures that useful metadata is visible in the Google results list and that users are taken directly to our article level view. By working with Google in this way we hope to promote wider usage and accessibility of the Australian Newspapers. Manager - Australian Newspaper Digitisation Program (ANDP)"

Just received the following which I feel well worth following up! Robert Wade in Australia (we have a long history of HM Courts!!) I am passing on the following message from information received from the Secretary of the NSW & ACT Association of Family History Societies Inc today, as it requires action by Friday 27th March 2009. Apologies if you receive it more than once and please feel free to pass it around to as many researchers as you can. Michelle Nichols Subject: Re: ENGLAND & WALES Probate Calendar John Briden HMCS (Her Majesty's Courts Service) is hoping to get the Probate Calendar Indexes to Wills and Grants, issued since 1858 in England and Wales online. The index includes the full name and address of the deceased and date of death. See <http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/1226.htm> http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/1226.htm He has put together a short questionnaire and would like to receive as many responses as possible by Friday 27th March. I realise that this is very short notice but if you are able to help by responding to John it would be appreciated. Copy and paste the questions below into an email, add your answers and send your responses to <mailto:john.briden@justice.gsi.gov.uk> john.briden@justice.gsi.gov.uk * Q1. If the probate calendar was available on the internet, would you use it? * * Q2. If you would use it - how often would you use it? * * Q3. What probate information would you be interested in seeing online, and why that particular information? * * Q4. Would you like to order copies online, and be prepared to pay for them online? * * Q5. Would you prefer to access the calendar online, but order and pay for copies by post, or by telephone? * * Q6. Would you be prepared to pay a premium to the fee, in addition to the normal cost for a more immediate service? Original message from: Mauren Bullows Archives Liaison Officer Email: <mailto:archives.liaison@ffhs.org.uk> archives.liaison@ffhs.org.uk <http://www.ffhs.org.uk/> www.ffhs.org.uk This email has been sent by: The Federation of Family History Societies a Company Limited by Guarantee Company Number 2930189 (England & Wales) - Registered Charity Number 1038721 Registered Office: Artillery House, 15 Byrom Street, Manchester, England M3 4PF **************************************************************************** **** The views expressed in this email are not necessarily those of the Hawkesbury City Council unless otherwise stated. The organisation does not warrant that this message is free of viruses or any other defect or error. This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this message in error please contact the author. **************************************************************************** **** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-PENRITH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 3958 (20090324) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

Hi All In 1922 Thomas MATHEWSON Snr ran the 'Regent Studios' at 184 Queen Street, Brisbane. I have a studio photograph taken by Regent Studios and would like to identify the people in the picture as well as find out the date it was taken. Does anyone know how to search for the records of 'Regent Studios'? The Qld State Library kindly provided background material on Thomas Mathewson Snr. Cheers Jane and Doug Hinton Canberra <gregh2@iinet.net.au> _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len> . We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 316 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message.

KENNETH (Edgar /Edward Kenneth, Chanute, KS, L.A.,CA.,Brisbane, Austrailia)> TheodoreRensing /KateWise>Rensing,JohnHerman/MaryAdelheidHeidemann (Damiansville, Clinton Co., IL, Chanute, Neosho Co.,KS., L.A.,CA. Diana Rensing Hancock Rensing512@aol.com 1 Theodore Rensing ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 17 Dec 1868, rural, Clinton Co., IL Death: 4 Apr 1939, Los Angeles Burial: Chanute KS Occ: railroad Father: JOHN HERMAN RENSING JR. (1836-1920) Mother: Mary Adelheid Heidemann (1838-1874) Spouse: Catherine (Kate) Katherine Wise Birth: 3 Jun 1883, Ky Death: 7 Apr 1947, Los Angeles, CA Father: William T. Wise Mother: Lula Rutherford or ROLLIFER Children: REX Ray (1900-1963) OLIVE G./Catherine (Billy or BABE) (1903-1973) LARRY FAYE/Fay O (1906-1984) Vaughn (Bruce) Harold (1912-1997) KENNETH KEN (Edgar /Edward Kenneth) (~1919-) 1.1a KENNETH KEN (Edgar /Edward Kenneth) RENSING DR.* ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: abt 1919, Chanute KS (1920 census, makes him the youngest) Birth: 1892/1894, 1902, if his mother was born 1883?? Death: NEW ZEALAND or Austrailia after WWII, met someone? Educ: Living in Ohio 1939 Reli: WWI 3 Apr 1939, in Ohio Erie Ordnance Depot, three year enlistment. If the mother Katherine Wise Rensing was born 1883, as I found a death for a Katherine Wise Rensing on the CA death index, then the earliest Ken could have been born was c.1902 Spouse: Norah May Atkin Birth: 23 Mar 1918, Mt. Perry, Queensland, Australia Death: 3 Oct 1988, Burra,Sth Aust.,Australia Marr: 1943 Children: Living (~1943-) Beverly Denise (1945-1963) 1.1b.1 Living RENSING ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: abt 1943, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia 1.1b.2 Beverly Denise Rensing ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 26 Aug 1945, Kangaroo Point,Brisbane,Queensland,Australia Death: 16 Mar 1963

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Hi Sent a reply to this but it bounced back from the Aus-Qld-Brisbane List did the second one come through or is it my computer Jan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Summerer" <msummerer@telus.net> To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 8:46 AM Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Wansfell immigrants:Green and Rose 1861/2 >I am researching descendants of Charles Green and wife Mary with > children Clara Rose and William Rose. They immigrated on the Wansfell > in 1861. I would be pleased to hear from any descendants of these > people. I would like to know where they settled after arriving in > Brisbane. I am related to Mary Green previously married to Richard Rose > and born Mary Eleanor Burman in Gt. Yarmouth, Norfolk England. Any help > would be greatly appreciated as I live in Canada. > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1990 - Release Date: 03/08/09 17:17:00

----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug & Jan" <jst88221@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Wansfell immigrants:Green and Rose 1861/2 > there is only Two Marriages for a William ROSE up to 1889 the first > given William's age on the immigration list I think we can discount as > it was in 1864 > > The other is > William ROSE married Eleanor NEIHT 7-3-1882 in Qld. ref 1882/870 > > Clara ROSE married SAmuel NUNN 23-9-1869 ref 1869/B2773 *** which > would mean she was about 18 according to the shipping index.. > > Samuel NUNN and Clara ROSE had the following Children > Grace Winifred b. 22-7-1870 ref 1870/287 > William Hurbert Samuel b. 19-1-1871 ref 1871/289 d. 7-10-1876 ref 1876/453 > Chales Reginate b. 21-4-1873 ref 1873/352 > Ralph Kennington 15-2 1875 ref 1875/373 > Frank Percival b. 6-7-1876 ref 1876/816 d. 1-2-1877 ref 1877/831 > Frederick Algernon b. 4-10-1877 ref 1877/832 > Clara Maud b. 10-2-1879 ref 1879/5871 > Olivina Edith b. 13-11-1880 ref 1880/6288 > Florence Ethel b. 19-8-1882 ref 1882/6788 buried South Brisbane Cemetery > on 8-12-1932 > Brenda Alberta b. 28-5-1884 ref 1884/8375 > Alice Spicer b. 24-2-1886ref 1886/9883 > > Samuel NUNN died 1886 Father Samuel NUNN Mother Susannah SPICER ref > 1886/C4394 **** this is on the Historical Index but not on the > Federation Index for some reason...so cant give you exact date... Found a > Burial which is most likely this Chap > SAmuel NUNN died 30-12-1885 born 19-10-1839 MI Warwick Cemetery > > > Clara NUNN married Edwin FLETCHER 5-11-1891 ref 1891/B15292 > *****Possibly 2nd Marriage... > > A Clara FLETCHER died in Brisbane Buried on 18-Jun 1935 age un known > Butied at South Brisbane Cemetery.. > > Ralph Kennington NUNN married Jane Elizabeth ROSE 6-4-1899 ref > 1899/B19871 > Frederick Algernon NUNN married Eliza Catherine LONGHEAD 26-11-1906 ref > 1906/247 > Olivina Edith NUNN married William Thomas HARDCASTLE 10-7-1907 ref > 1907/B5718 > > Cant find any more on William ROSE.. > > Frederick Algernon NUNN and Eiza Catherine LONGHEAD had children > Frederick Roy b. 5-4-1907 ref 1907/1084 > Robert Edward 10-11-1908 ref 1908/1053 > Florence Maud 11-8-1910 ref 1910/1413 > Evelyn Dorothy b. 9-9-1911 ref 1911/9557 > Catherine Lucy 21-6-1913 ref 1913/10848 > > Irene Kennington NUNN born 27-6-1899 Father Ralph Kennington NUNN Mother > Jane Elizabeth ROSE ref 1899/ B64514 > > OLivina Edith NUNN and William Thomas HARDCASTLE had the following > Children > Alfred Burman b. 30-8-1908 ref 1908/B18035 > Roy Victor 6-2-19*12 ref 1912/B27930 > > 1922 ELECTORAL ROLL > Brenda Alberta NUNN Dornoch Tce. South Brisbane Miliner > Florence Ethel NUNN Dornoch Tce. SouthBrisbne Homeduties > Elizabeth Catherine NUNN Yarraman Creek Homeduties > Frederick NUNN Yarraman Creek Farmer > Olivina Edith HARDCASTLE Carney's Creek Boonah Homeduties > William Thomas HARDCASTLE Carney's Creek Boonah Farmer > Thomas William HARDCASTLE Dugandan Boonah Farmer > > 1934 ELECTORAL ROLL > Brenda Alberta NUNN Dornoch Tce. Sth. Brisbane Miliner > Frederick Roy NUNN Yarraman Labourer > Elizabeth Catherine NUNN Yarraman Creek Home duties > Evelyn Dorothy NUNN Yarraman Creek Homeduties > Robert Edward NUNN Yarraman Labourer > ***Frederick Algernon must have died.. > Olive Edith HARDCASTLE Hazelwood St. SouthBrisbane Homeduties > Roy Victor HARDCASTLE Kurrara Hazelwood St. Highgate Hill Clerk > Alfred Burman HARDCASTLE Annerley Rd. Annerley Bank Officer > Florence Edith HARDCASTLE Annerley Rd. Annerley Home duties > ***no William Thomas HARDCASTLE > > 1949 ELECTORAL ROLL > Brenda Alberta NUN "Kennington" 149 Dornoch Tce Sth Brisbane MIliner > Eiza Catherine NUNN 23 Hut Housing Commission Ekibin Home duties > Jane Elizabeth NUNN 56 Campbell St. East Toowoomba Home duties > Ralph Kennington NUNN 56 Campbell St. East Toowoomba No Occupation > Alfred Burman HARDCASTLE Cr Young and Hoey St. AYR Bank Manager > Florence Edith HARDCASTLE Cr Young and Hoey St. Ayr Homeduties > Olivina Edith HARDCASTLE Hazelwood St. Highgate Hill HOmeduties > Robert Edward NUNN Rocky Creek Yarraman Labourer > > cheers > Jan > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marion Summerer" <msummerer@telus.net> > To: <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 8:46 AM > Subject: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Wansfell immigrants:Green and Rose 1861/2 > > >>I am researching descendants of Charles Green and wife Mary with >> children Clara Rose and William Rose. They immigrated on the Wansfell >> in 1861. I would be pleased to hear from any descendants of these >> people. I would like to know where they settled after arriving in >> Brisbane. I am related to Mary Green previously married to Richard Rose >> and born Mary Eleanor Burman in Gt. Yarmouth, Norfolk England. Any help >> would be greatly appreciated as I live in Canada. >> >> >> >> >> >> Toowoomba Dead Persons Society >> www.audps.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1990 - Release Date: 03/08/09 > 17:17:00 >

Hi Listers I have been trying to find out when the Mansfield Private Hospital opened at Coorparoo. Think it was in the 1920s. Can anyone help? Also, seeking a photograph of this Hospital. Have checked Queensland Photos and it is not there. I did live in Brisbane years ago and one weekend when I saw the hospital (didn't have a camera) decided I would come back the next weekend and take a photograph. Guess what? It was bulldozed during that week and all that was left when I returned was a bare block of land. I think that this was in the late 1990s. Any help and/or information appreciated. Kay

I am researching descendants of Charles Green and wife Mary with children Clara Rose and William Rose. They immigrated on the Wansfell in 1861. I would be pleased to hear from any descendants of these people. I would like to know where they settled after arriving in Brisbane. I am related to Mary Green previously married to Richard Rose and born Mary Eleanor Burman in Gt. Yarmouth, Norfolk England. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I live in Canada.

Hi Barbara (yet again) This may or may not be of interest, but I *think* two of the Cumberford boys may have played football (soccer) for Australia. The first matches Australia played were in 1922, against New Zealand. In the team for that year were Jock and David Cumberford, and in fact Jock scored the first ever goal for Australia (in a "B" international). http://www.ozfootball.net/ark/Socceroo/1922A.html http://www.ozfootball.net/ark/Socceroo/1922B.html I don't even know Jock's real name, but obviously he was a Scot :) and I did find that his club was Grange Thistle, which is in Brisbane (and also has evident Scots connections). In the immigrant list, there is a David who would be 21 in 1922; possibilities for Jock would be John (28) Alex (25) William (18). I could try to find out if you are interested. It does seem likely the footballers are the same Cumberfords, as the BDM search did not find any others of the same name in that era. Regards Steve

Hi again Barbara, Further to Carol's reply about John CUMBERFORD, he was also in the Australian Army in WWII 1942-45; this is his entry from the nominal roll, which shows his birth as 15 Sep 1893, Bells Hill, Scotland: http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran.asp?ServiceID=A&VeteranID=106488#summary1 Also, a search of the online database at Qld State Archives found an Alexander Cumberford FORRESTER (who I think would be a son of Jean CUMBERFORD and Andrew Scott FORRESTER). He was a senior school teacher in Qld until 1973 - the file is not accessible for 75 years from then. About the assisted immigration records - you may notice there are 2 film references. If this is the same as the 1800's records, then the first record is a brief arrival record for the immigrants on the ship; and the second is a more detailed examination a few days later. This second record usually lists the parents and where they are living (unless deceased). So if you only have minimal information on the parents in Scotland, this should at least give the county they were in in 1912. These records are probably on film at the state library as well as the archives. I can have a look on my next visit, though I don't know when that will be. Regards Steve Barbara Nellesen wrote: > I am hoping I have the right list for this post. > > Searching for any ancestors or anyone with additional information on > this couple: > Alexander CUMBERFORD and Margaret HILL > They were married 1892 in Lanark Scotland and emigrated to Australia > between 1907 and 1913. > I found them in the online 1913 Queensland Electoral Rolls Index, > Div-Oxley, Sub Div-Brisbane on Brighton Rd > In the 1922 Electoral Rolls they were in Oxley-Burando - Fleurs Rd > In the 1934 Electoral Rolls in Griffith-Cooparoo > I have found other Cumberfords which may be children and subsequently > their wives - not really sure - see additional information below: > > Additional information: > _Parents_ were John CUMBERFORD and Mgt GIBSON AND John HILL and Margaret > TORRANCE > _Children_ of Alexander and Margaret were John b abt 1894 in Bellshill > LKS SCT, Alexander b abt 1896 in Bellshill LKS SCT, Isabella b abt 1898 > Holytown LKS SCT and died Jul 1907 in New Cumnock, AYR., and David b abt > 1900 in Holytown LKS SCT. > > Other names mentioned in the Electoral Rolls: > Margaret Louise Torrence CUMBERFORD > Agnes Hill CUMBERFORD > Alexander Hill CUMBERFORD > William Neilson CUMBERFORD > In the 1934 rolls, Div Moreton, SubDiv Mount Gravatt... > Isabella Ewan CUMBERFORD (possibly the wife of David Cumberford) > John CUMBERFORD and Margaret McKay CUMBERFORD - 1934 at 60 Gertrude St > in Griffith, S Brisbane - also there in 1949 > Evelyn Cecelia CUMBERFORD and in 1949 with William Neilson CUMBERFORD > Antoher address in 1949 is 208 Kelvin Grove Rd for Alexander Jr and > Elizabeth Jane Cumberford > > Hope I did not provide too much information but I thought the locations > might help. > Thanks for any help you might be able to provide. Feel free to contact > me direct or through the list. > > Barbara Nellesen > USA > >

Hello Barbara, At Queensland State Archives there are various online indexes: http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/research/indexes.asp These include "Assisted Immigration 1883-1912" which has: Surname Given Name Age Ship Date arrived Ref. Page Microfilm Microfilm 2 CUMBERFORD Agnes 6 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 CUMBERFORD Alex 15 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 CUMBERFORD Alexdr 44 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 CUMBERFORD David 11 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 CUMBERFORD Jeanie 10 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 CUMBERFORD John 18 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 CUMBERFORD Maggie 17 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 CUMBERFORD Margaret 37 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 CUMBERFORD William 8 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 Also there are online BDM indexes at https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/MarIndexQry.m This is entry point for marriages but you can access the others from here. They cover births to 1914, deaths to 1929, marriages to 1929 (later years are available, but not online). I only found marriages: Reg # / Subjects Family Name / Subjects Given Names / Other Partys Family Name / Other Partys Given Names 1917/B20723 / Cumberford / John / Wilson / Margaret McKay 1924/C1734 / Cumberford / David / Grant / Isabella Ewan 1925/B37835 / Cumberford / Jean / Forrester / Andrew Scott "B" registration numbers are Brisbane, "C" are Queensland country. HTH Steve Barbara Nellesen wrote: > I am hoping I have the right list for this post. > > Searching for any ancestors or anyone with additional information on > this couple: > Alexander CUMBERFORD and Margaret HILL > They were married 1892 in Lanark Scotland and emigrated to Australia > between 1907 and 1913. > I found them in the online 1913 Queensland Electoral Rolls Index, > Div-Oxley, Sub Div-Brisbane on Brighton Rd > In the 1922 Electoral Rolls they were in Oxley-Burando - Fleurs Rd > In the 1934 Electoral Rolls in Griffith-Cooparoo > I have found other Cumberfords which may be children and subsequently > their wives - not really sure - see additional information below: > > Additional information: > _Parents_ were John CUMBERFORD and Mgt GIBSON AND John HILL and Margaret > TORRANCE > _Children_ of Alexander and Margaret were John b abt 1894 in Bellshill > LKS SCT, Alexander b abt 1896 in Bellshill LKS SCT, Isabella b abt 1898 > Holytown LKS SCT and died Jul 1907 in New Cumnock, AYR., and David b abt > 1900 in Holytown LKS SCT. > > Other names mentioned in the Electoral Rolls: > Margaret Louise Torrence CUMBERFORD > Agnes Hill CUMBERFORD > Alexander Hill CUMBERFORD > William Neilson CUMBERFORD > In the 1934 rolls, Div Moreton, SubDiv Mount Gravatt... > Isabella Ewan CUMBERFORD (possibly the wife of David Cumberford) > John CUMBERFORD and Margaret McKay CUMBERFORD - 1934 at 60 Gertrude St > in Griffith, S Brisbane - also there in 1949 > Evelyn Cecelia CUMBERFORD and in 1949 with William Neilson CUMBERFORD > Antoher address in 1949 is 208 Kelvin Grove Rd for Alexander Jr and > Elizabeth Jane Cumberford > > Hope I did not provide too much information but I thought the locations > might help. > Thanks for any help you might be able to provide. Feel free to contact > me direct or through the list. > > Barbara Nellesen > USA > > >

Hi Barbara, Hope this small snippet helps - Mount Gravatt Cemetery (Records available online at Brisbane City Council website) Monumental 2E 2 114 Cumberford Margaret 21 / 02 / 1975 78 years Trask Ellen Catherine 21 / 02 / 1975 80 years Ryan John William 21 / 02 / 1975 83 years Mansfield Dorothy Mildred 21 / 02 / 1975 82 years I would guess that this is a Government grave as the persons buried seem to have all been on the same day and unrelated. >From the National Archives of Australia website John Cumberford (born Scotland) joined the Navy in 1939 and a brief record is online http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx Carol

Hello again Steven, Yes, that would be great if you could find out - as long as it is not too much trouble for you Steven. An act of kindness for sure. Thank you. Barbara Steven Sims wrote: > Hi Barbara (yet again) > > This may or may not be of interest, but I *think* two of the Cumberford > boys may have played football (soccer) for Australia. > > ---snipped--- > > It does seem likely the > footballers are the same Cumberfords, as the BDM search did not find any > others of the same name in that era. > > Regards > Steve > > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.4/1976 - Release Date: 02/27/09 13:27:00 > >

Hello Steven, Wow...this is terrific. I thank you so very much for all the good information and these websites. Your efforts on my behalf are appreciated so much. The data you and Carol have provided me will greatly help my further research. Thank you for your kind offer to check for more information on their arrival in Australia but I think I have Alexander's parents covered. I have their family information as well as Alexander's paternal grandparents who are also my gggrandparents. Thanks again! Barbara Steven Sims wrote: > Hello Barbara, > > At Queensland State Archives there are various online indexes: > http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/research/indexes.asp > > These include "Assisted Immigration 1883-1912" which has: > > Surname Given Name Age Ship Date arrived Ref. Page Microfilm Microfilm 2 > CUMBERFORD Agnes 6 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 > CUMBERFORD Alex 15 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 > CUMBERFORD Alexdr 44 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 > CUMBERFORD David 11 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 > CUMBERFORD Jeanie 10 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 > CUMBERFORD John 18 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 > CUMBERFORD Maggie 17 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 > CUMBERFORD Margaret 37 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 > CUMBERFORD William 8 Perthshire 02 Jun 1912 IMM/125 397 Z1966 M1705 > > Also there are online BDM indexes at > https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/MarIndexQry.m > > This is entry point for marriages but you can access the others from > here. They cover births to 1914, deaths to 1929, marriages to 1929 > (later years are available, but not online). I only found marriages: > > Reg # / Subjects Family Name / Subjects Given Names / Other Partys > Family Name / Other Partys Given Names > 1917/B20723 / Cumberford / John / Wilson / Margaret McKay > 1924/C1734 / Cumberford / David / Grant / Isabella Ewan > 1925/B37835 / Cumberford / Jean / Forrester / Andrew Scott > > "B" registration numbers are Brisbane, "C" are Queensland country. > > HTH > Steve > > Barbara Nellesen wrote: > >> I am hoping I have the right list for this post. >> >> Searching for any ancestors or anyone with additional information on >> this couple: >> Alexander CUMBERFORD and Margaret HILL >> ---snipped remainder---- >>

Hello Carol, How kind of you to go to the trouble to get that information for me. I so appreciate your efforts (from both emails!) If you need any lookups in Scotland...I have the 1881 census CD's and some of the MI booklets. Thank you again, Barbara Carol Wood wrote: > Hi Barbara, > > Hope this small snippet helps - > > Mount Gravatt Cemetery (Records available online at Brisbane City Council > website) > > Monumental 2E 2 114 > > Cumberford Margaret 21 / 02 / 1975 78 years > Trask Ellen Catherine 21 / 02 / 1975 80 years > Ryan John William 21 / 02 / 1975 83 years > Mansfield Dorothy Mildred 21 / 02 / 1975 82 years > > I would guess that this is a Government grave as the persons buried seem to > have all been on the same day and unrelated. > > >From the National Archives of Australia website John Cumberford (born > Scotland) joined the Navy in 1939 and a brief record is online > > http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx > > Carol > > > > > > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.4/1976 - Release Date: 02/27/09 13:27:00 > >

I am hoping I have the right list for this post. Searching for any ancestors or anyone with additional information on this couple: Alexander CUMBERFORD and Margaret HILL They were married 1892 in Lanark Scotland and emigrated to Australia between 1907 and 1913. I found them in the online 1913 Queensland Electoral Rolls Index, Div-Oxley, Sub Div-Brisbane on Brighton Rd In the 1922 Electoral Rolls they were in Oxley-Burando - Fleurs Rd In the 1934 Electoral Rolls in Griffith-Cooparoo I have found other Cumberfords which may be children and subsequently their wives - not really sure - see additional information below: Additional information: _Parents_ were John CUMBERFORD and Mgt GIBSON AND John HILL and Margaret TORRANCE _Children_ of Alexander and Margaret were John b abt 1894 in Bellshill LKS SCT, Alexander b abt 1896 in Bellshill LKS SCT, Isabella b abt 1898 Holytown LKS SCT and died Jul 1907 in New Cumnock, AYR., and David b abt 1900 in Holytown LKS SCT. Other names mentioned in the Electoral Rolls: Margaret Louise Torrence CUMBERFORD Agnes Hill CUMBERFORD Alexander Hill CUMBERFORD William Neilson CUMBERFORD In the 1934 rolls, Div Moreton, SubDiv Mount Gravatt... Isabella Ewan CUMBERFORD (possibly the wife of David Cumberford) John CUMBERFORD and Margaret McKay CUMBERFORD - 1934 at 60 Gertrude St in Griffith, S Brisbane - also there in 1949 Evelyn Cecelia CUMBERFORD and in 1949 with William Neilson CUMBERFORD Antoher address in 1949 is 208 Kelvin Grove Rd for Alexander Jr and Elizabeth Jane Cumberford Hope I did not provide too much information but I thought the locations might help. Thanks for any help you might be able to provide. Feel free to contact me direct or through the list. Barbara Nellesen USA

Hi Robyn, Some Qld assisted migration records were lost in floods (1893?) including some from early 1860's, so this is possible in your case. If so, then you may still find them in passenger lists. I managed this for 2 of my 1860's arrival families where the immigration records are lost. If you can get to Qld State Archives in Brisbane, they have an immigration card index to films which include passenger lists. Such lists generally have nothing more than names and perhaps ages but certainly better than nothing. Regards Steve Robyn wrote: > Good Morning: I have hit the bane of geneaologists - the brick wall, and I'm hoping that you will be able to help me break through. > > My great-grandfather, Alexander John Davidson and his wife, Mary Ann (Ward) were married in Dublin in 1860, went back to Scotland and then migrated to Australia. They lived in Brisbane until he died in 1923 (Toowong Cemetery), and she died in 1888 (also Toowong Cemetery). I have tried and tried to find some evidence of their migration, but nothing! I must not be looking in the right direction. I believe the year was 1864. Do you think you'd be able to point me in the right direction? Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated! Robyn Nelson > >

Robyn, Have you tried their death certificates?? perhaps that might say how long they were here for.. might help you narrow down a year. I have not been able to find them on the Queensland, New South Wales, or Victorian online indexes.. Perhaps they swam?? hehe sorry I know how frustrating it can be. My family paid their own way.. and as such there is no record of the way they got here only that the Danish end had a record of them purchasing a ticket.. and i know they were here 4 years after that... basically I have no idea either. The only Alexander and Mary Ann Davidson's I could find came to australia in 1842.. according to your dates they were not even married then. Sorry I couldnt help more Regards Sue