Kerry, Many thanks to you and other listers for their comments on the re-internments from Lang Park/Suncorp. The feedback has been a very helpful guide as to where to look next. I hope to start soon!! Regards, Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Raymond" <[email protected]> To: "Robert & Elaine Wade" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [AQ-BRISBANE] The Wesleyan Burial Place - Brisbane > > Many thanks for your suggestion ref Lang Park. Do you know of any source > of > > information about that cemetery or records that were used for the > > exhumations, that can be accessed on line. > > I don't know of an on-line resource but Qld State Archives describe their > Brisbane General [aka Toowong] burial registers as an 8 volume series of > which: > > "The fourth register (Item 4) includes - in red ink - entries for the > 1913-1914 re-interments from graves that were exhumed from the Paddington > Cemetery when it closed. In place of the Paddington Cemetery now stands the > Suncorp Stadium." > > Although most of the re-interments were in Toowong Cemetery, some > re-interments also went to other cemeteries if families explicitly > requested. I don't know if the burial registers of these other cemeteries do > or don't record the re-interments. > > Kerry > > >

Pam, Yes that's right - Pickering Street is named after Edward & Hannah PICKERING (my g2-grandparents) who farmed at Rose Hill Enoggera from the 1860s. Anyone with an interest in the family should see the excellent Pickering book by Allan & June Pickering (1987, ISBN 0 7316 0125 4). There is a copy in the Qld State Library. Cheers Steve Pam Dale wrote: > I guess that is where Pickering St Enoggera comes from > > Pam in Brisbane >

I can recommend "The Mayne Inheritance". A great read. Didn't help us find the Kangaroo Point Cemetary where my Great Great Grandfather was apparently buried, though. Found his wife at Bulimba in an unmarked grave, once we corrected the funeral director's spelling error. Jenny. -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Arabin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 6:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AQ-BRISBANE] The Wesleyan Burial Place - Brisbane I visited Toowong Cemetery about 10 days ago. The sexton has the Toowong records on his computer and knows whether other cemetery records exist. He said the Paddington cemetery records were lost in a flood. They were divided by denomination and each church had there own. He also said there were not many reinterments from there in Toowong. One notable exception was that of Patrick MAYNE who features in an interesting book about early Brisbane called The Mayne Inheritance. Everything you have wanted in a mystery and it is all true. Shirley Arabin Mount Maunganui, New Zealand . > > Many thanks for your suggestion ref Lang Park. Do you know of any > > source > of > > information about that cemetery or records that were used for the > > exhumations, that can be accessed on line. ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== New Site Scattered Ashes www.scatteredashes.net ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I visited Toowong Cemetery about 10 days ago. The sexton has the Toowong records on his computer and knows whether other cemetery records exist. He said the Paddington cemetery records were lost in a flood. They were divided by denomination and each church had there own. He also said there were not many reinterments from there in Toowong. One notable exception was that of Patrick MAYNE who features in an interesting book about early Brisbane called The Mayne Inheritance. Everything you have wanted in a mystery and it is all true. Shirley Arabin Mount Maunganui, New Zealand . > > Many thanks for your suggestion ref Lang Park. Do you know of any source > of > > information about that cemetery or records that were used for the > > exhumations, that can be accessed on line.

> Many thanks for your suggestion ref Lang Park. Do you know of any source of > information about that cemetery or records that were used for the > exhumations, that can be accessed on line. I don't know of an on-line resource but Qld State Archives describe their Brisbane General [aka Toowong] burial registers as an 8 volume series of which: "The fourth register (Item 4) includes - in red ink - entries for the 1913-1914 re-interments from graves that were exhumed from the Paddington Cemetery when it closed. In place of the Paddington Cemetery now stands the Suncorp Stadium." Although most of the re-interments were in Toowong Cemetery, some re-interments also went to other cemeteries if families explicitly requested. I don't know if the burial registers of these other cemeteries do or don't record the re-interments. Kerry

I guess that is where Pickering St Enoggera comes from Pam in Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Sims" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 10:41 PM Subject: Enoggera and Gheerulla connections > I made a reply off-list about Enoggera (St Matthews Grovely churchyard) > and it struck me that some of the info may be of general interest. There > is a big connection between Enoggera and Gheerulla (the original > settlement near Kenilworth) as many Gheerulla settlers came from > Enoggera in the 1890s, and the connection was maintained for many years. > > The main families I know of are SIMS PICKERING MCGINN HOYES. For > Gheerulla burials see > http://www.interment.net/data/aus/qld/maroochy/gheerulla/gheerulla.htm > > What I said: > > >There is a tremendous connection between "the Enoggera mob" and "the > >Gheerulla mob". A lot of the early settlers of Gheerulla came from > >Enoggera and the names like PICKERING MCGINN HOYES et al occur in both > >places and it's no coincidence. I mentioned St Matthews at Grovely; the > >church at Gheerulla is also St Matthews and the cemetery next door to it > >has many of the same families. > > > >For me, the loveliest story in the family is that the Enoggera mob would > >go up to Gheerulla each Easter for a cricket match and picnic; this > >lasted until WWII (and one of the McGinn's actually played some games > >for Qld in the 1940's). There are a few photos of this in the Kenilworth > >Museum. If you have an interest in Enoggera Pickerings, don't neglect > >the Gheerulla connection as it is a profound thread in the family. > > Anyone chasing families such as PICKERING or MCGINN in > Brisbane/Enoggera, I would advise you to also check Gheerulla especially > the wonderful Kenilworth Museum. > > BTW if anyone has a Gheerulla interest, I have heard that the church is > moving to close St Matthews at Gheerulla, surely one of the oldest > country churches in the state, and one that was built by the local > settlers who are now buried there. If anyone has an interest in fighting > this, please let me know. > > Cheers > Steve >

> Generally true that cemeteries are municipal, but I know of one > churchyard with burials - St Matthews CofE at Grovely, with burials from > 1860's to the present. Brisbane back in the 1800s was a lot smaller than Brisbane today. Indeed, Boundary Street in Spring Hill got its name because it was the boundary of the city in early times. Many of Brisbane's suburbs (even older ones) were in other shires during the 1800s. Grovely would certainly not have been part of Brisbane in the 1800s, most likely it would have become part of Greater Brisbane in the amalgamations in about 1925. > I would be interested to hear of any other churchyards with burials in > Brisbane. Uniting Church (formerly Methodist), Chapel Hill Church of England, Sherwood

I made a reply off-list about Enoggera (St Matthews Grovely churchyard) and it struck me that some of the info may be of general interest. There is a big connection between Enoggera and Gheerulla (the original settlement near Kenilworth) as many Gheerulla settlers came from Enoggera in the 1890s, and the connection was maintained for many years. The main families I know of are SIMS PICKERING MCGINN HOYES. For Gheerulla burials see http://www.interment.net/data/aus/qld/maroochy/gheerulla/gheerulla.htm What I said: >There is a tremendous connection between "the Enoggera mob" and "the >Gheerulla mob". A lot of the early settlers of Gheerulla came from >Enoggera and the names like PICKERING MCGINN HOYES et al occur in both >places and it's no coincidence. I mentioned St Matthews at Grovely; the >church at Gheerulla is also St Matthews and the cemetery next door to it >has many of the same families. > >For me, the loveliest story in the family is that the Enoggera mob would >go up to Gheerulla each Easter for a cricket match and picnic; this >lasted until WWII (and one of the McGinn's actually played some games >for Qld in the 1940's). There are a few photos of this in the Kenilworth >Museum. If you have an interest in Enoggera Pickerings, don't neglect >the Gheerulla connection as it is a profound thread in the family. Anyone chasing families such as PICKERING or MCGINN in Brisbane/Enoggera, I would advise you to also check Gheerulla especially the wonderful Kenilworth Museum. BTW if anyone has a Gheerulla interest, I have heard that the church is moving to close St Matthews at Gheerulla, surely one of the oldest country churches in the state, and one that was built by the local settlers who are now buried there. If anyone has an interest in fighting this, please let me know. Cheers Steve

Generally true that cemeteries are municipal, but I know of one churchyard with burials - St Matthews CofE at Grovely, with burials from 1860's to the present. Includes some of my forebears and many relatives - PICKERING OWENS KEYLAR MCGINN HOYES MILLWOOD and others. I would be interested to hear of any other churchyards with burials in Brisbane. Regards Steve Kerry Raymond wrote: >However Brisbane had municipal cemeteries not churchyard cemeteries, so the >grave is most likely in the Congregational Section of one of the municipal >cemeteries and not at one of the churches. > > >

Hi John Depends when he was in the forces. This is the National Archives site which has details of various war personnel. I am not sure if they have details of people outside war years. I obtained a copy of my father's file from WW2. http://www.naa.gov.au/the_collection/family_history/armed_services.html This is the Commonwealth War Graves site. Also goo. http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx I am posting this to the list too as it may be helpful to others. No I am not related to Faye Dale, that I know of. Mind you, there are a lot of DALE family members. Dale is my married name. Regards Pam in Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "I.J. (John) Kendle" <[email protected]> To: "Pam Dale" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:43 AM Subject: Re: EDWARD (TED) DAY - GAYTHORNE QLD > Hello Pam, > > Can you give me any clues how I would check this out? > > Are you by any chance a sister to FAYE DALE following the Windover/Murphy > line? Or am I simply clutching at straws? > > WTIA John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Dale" <[email protected]> > To: "I.J. (John) Kendle" <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 10:25 PM > Subject: Re: EDWARD (TED) DAY - GAYTHORNE QLD > > >> Hi John >> >> There is a large army base at Gaythorne. Perhaps your man was there. >> >> Pam in Brisbane >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "I.J. (John) Kendle" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:59 PM >> Subject: EDWARD (TED) DAY - GAYTHORNE QLD >> >> >> > Hello Listers, >> > >> > Anything known about this person? I am told he was in the army or that > he >> > was a dentist? >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > John in Dianella WA >> > >> > ______________________________ >> >> >> > >

Hi John There is a large army base at Gaythorne. Perhaps your man was there. Pam in Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "I.J. (John) Kendle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:59 PM Subject: EDWARD (TED) DAY - GAYTHORNE QLD > Hello Listers, > > Anything known about this person? I am told he was in the army or that he > was a dentist? > > Thanks! > > John in Dianella WA > > ______________________________

Kerry, Many thanks for your suggestion ref Lang Park. Do you know of any source of information about that cemetery or records that were used for the exhumations, that can be accessed on line. We certainly did not expect anything from that date to be still extant! We can but speculate whether he was buried in goal (not jail), outside the touchline or where-ever!! Thanks for your help, regards Robert Wade ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Raymond" <[email protected]> To: "Robert & Elaine Wade" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [AQ-BRISBANE] The Wesleyan Burial Place - Brisbane > Give the year, I would think it was a reference to the Wesleyan part of > Brisbane General Cemetery. The Brisbane General Cemetery at Paddington (now > Lang Park or Suncorp Stadium, as you prefer) was not one big cemetery but a > series of separate areas for each denomination. In theory, all graves at > this cemetery were supposed to be exhumed and reburied in other cemeteries > when it was decided to use the land of the old cemetery for other purposes. > However, there weren't good records of who was buried there and precisely > where, so it is generally believed that many graves were not exhumed and are > still beneath the stadium. Surviving headstones were relocated to other > cemeteries. > > Kerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert & Elaine Wade" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:01 PM > Subject: [AQ-BRISBANE] The Wesleyan Burial Place - Brisbane > > > > Hello Brisbane List, > > > > "William George Watt Powditch died in North Brisbane on 27 May 1856 and > was > > buried in the Wesleyan Burial Place in Brisbane." > > > > Can anyone tell me please where the burial place was and what might be > there > > now?? > > > > thanks alot, > > Robert Wade, > > Gold Coast Hinterland > > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > > New Site Scattered Ashes > > www.scatteredashes.net > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >

> >From the following entry on http://www.geocities.com/ciscoshell/coomber.htm it would seem that the Congregational Church was in Grey Street, South Brisbane. There was more than one Congregational Church in Brisbane. Certainly there was one at both Wharf St and Grey St and probably others too. However Brisbane had municipal cemeteries not churchyard cemeteries, so the grave is most likely in the Congregational Section of one of the municipal cemeteries and not at one of the churches. Kerry

Give the year, I would think it was a reference to the Wesleyan part of Brisbane General Cemetery. The Brisbane General Cemetery at Paddington (now Lang Park or Suncorp Stadium, as you prefer) was not one big cemetery but a series of separate areas for each denomination. In theory, all graves at this cemetery were supposed to be exhumed and reburied in other cemeteries when it was decided to use the land of the old cemetery for other purposes. However, there weren't good records of who was buried there and precisely where, so it is generally believed that many graves were not exhumed and are still beneath the stadium. Surviving headstones were relocated to other cemeteries. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert & Elaine Wade" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:01 PM Subject: [AQ-BRISBANE] The Wesleyan Burial Place - Brisbane > Hello Brisbane List, > > "William George Watt Powditch died in North Brisbane on 27 May 1856 and was > buried in the Wesleyan Burial Place in Brisbane." > > Can anyone tell me please where the burial place was and what might be there > now?? > > thanks alot, > Robert Wade, > Gold Coast Hinterland > > > ==== AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Mailing List ==== > New Site Scattered Ashes > www.scatteredashes.net > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Brisbane List, "William George Watt Powditch died in North Brisbane on 27 May 1856 and was buried in the Wesleyan Burial Place in Brisbane." Can anyone tell me please where the burial place was and what might be there now?? thanks alot, Robert Wade, Gold Coast Hinterland

Hello Listers, Anything known about this person? I am told he was in the army or that he was a dentist? Thanks! John in Dianella WA

Hi all, Just a quick question. Does anyone know of an Australian equivalent of myfamily.com site that you can set up for family members to post pics, stories etc? We are looking for something for a school reunion. Thanks, Jenny.

For school reunions etc. try www.schoolfriends.com.au. If it's just family then probably not. -----Original Message----- Just a quick question. Does anyone know of an Australian equivalent of myfamily.com site that you can set up for family members to post pics, stories etc? We are looking for something for a school reunion.

Looking for record of marriage between Arthur (?) DOUGLAS and Emma Lucy (or Emily) BLOOMFIELD (or maybe MITCHESON/MITCHISON) between 1890-1907 perhaps in the Toowong area. Neale Ferguson

Hi Terry, From the following entry on http://www.geocities.com/ciscoshell/coomber.htm it would seem that the Congregational Church was in Grey Street, South Brisbane. Hope this helps! Kind regards, Donna, Singapore. FREDERICK JOHN COOMBER, Frederick was born in 1860 in Sydney, New South Wales and died on 1 April 1925 at Sisley St, Ironside Estate, St Lucia, Queensland. He married JANE ANN SMITH on 28 March 1883 at the Congregational Church, Grey St, South Brisbane. She was born in 1860 in Middlesex, England. Frederick was buried at the Toowong Cemetery, Brisbane, Queensland. Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:18:34 +1000 From: "terry" To: [email protected] Subject: Re Congregational Cemetery Hi Bris listers ,Terry Murphy from Kallangur Bris here , can any one "point " me in the right direction as to where the Old Congregational Cty ? in Brisbane could have been ,as last week I recieved 2 Death Certs from 1865 and 1873 and states both children where buried at the Congregational Cty Brisbane , I was first thinking maybe it was Lang Park but have been told NO ! so who can help , cheers ,Terry Murphy --------------------------------- Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.