Well, the Qld Births don't have any children to these parents. And no evidence of their marriage in Qld. No sign of them in NSW either. So, some of the possibilities are: * James was deliberately lying on his marriage certificate (in which case he really could have been born anywhere to any parents). * James believed he was born in Toowoomba because he remembers it from his childhood but was actually born elsewhere. If James did spend his early childhood in Toowoomba area, you would expect some evidence of the family living in the district, which may provide new directions for your research. So you might go looking for his parents in the immigration records, electoral rolls and the Qld death records. Or you may find James in school records. Since you have the marriage certificate, you know when and where James's marriage took place. Look for a notice of the marriage in the local newspaper (typically appears on the day or a few days in advance or afterwards). Perhaps there is an article about the wedding in the social pages; these could appear a number of weeks after the wedding and often give enormous detail about who was there and what the women were all wearing (including the mothers of the bride and groom) and which relatives served as best man, bridesmaid, etc or made the cake, played the piano, etc. You can learn a lot about a family from the social page's report of the wedding! Kerry -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris & Vicki Sent: Tuesday, 16 December 2008 6:06 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-QLD] James DOYLE Hi I have finally received my great grandparents marriage certificate and found out that my GGrandfather James DOYLE was born in Toowoomba around 1878. I have looked up BDM QLD and I can't find a record of his birth. His parents are John DOYLE and Mary McLEARNAN. My next job will be to track down his parents. What I really need to know right now - is it possible to find his birth anywhere else online. I am in NZ. Thanks Vicki ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If James was underage... he would have had to seek permission to marry from either his parents or he would have had to appear in front of the magistrate, might be worth a try seeing if there was an article relating to that in court records.. Sue.

Thanks Sue...Now the next silly question is where would I find court records? LOL Vicki -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Olsen If James was underage... he would have had to seek permission to marry from either his parents or he would have had to appear in front of the magistrate, might be worth a try seeing if there was an article relating to that in court records.. Sue.