Lorrae.... This is such a great post !! I`m sure a lot of people can relate to this situation.........explains some of our research dilemmas...... Thank you. Val.Stewart. ***************************************************************************************** On 5/18/14, Lorrae J <lorrae@uqconnect.net> wrote: > Morning All > > On the registration of the birth of the baby, the surname of the baby is > usually the father's, unless he is not named. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Morning All On the registration of the birth of the baby, the surname of the baby is usually the father's, unless he is not named. Therefore, in the modern era, would I be right in 'assuming' for an unmarried couple in Qld, that if the father does not sign the birth certificate, then the baby takes the mother's surname. Example, Ada DAVIS is married to BUCHANAN, and that marriage disolves, perhaps through death, or separate etc. Ada then has a baby to Joe BLOGGS, but they are not married. If Joe does not sign that form, the baby will take the surname of the mother. The legal surname of the mother is still BUCHANAN. If Ada was not married to BUCHANAN, then the baby would be DAVIS. AS I understand it, the surname of the birth certificate of an unmarried mother will be her legal surname, unless the father signs the form. Have I got that right? So complicated. This is the way it use to be, and I am asking if it is still the same, OR if the unmarried mother can give the child a different surname? In the 1990's, my former sister in law had more children after she separated from my brother. These children carry my brother's surname, as that was her legal surname and the father did not sign the form!! I have other examples too, but was trying to determine if that was still so. Thanks Lorrae J Forest Lake Q 4078 http://www.lorrae.net/ __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 9814 (20140517) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Thanks June. Much appreciated. Ian From: June Pickering Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 3:46 PM To: aus-qld ; imkelly21@bigpond.com Subject: RE: [AUS-QLD] Birth of Celia Ivy DARE in 1915 Celia Ivy DARE born 29/9/1915 reg no: 1915/015044. Sincerely, June.

Celia Ivy DARE born 29/9/1915 reg no: 1915/015044. Sincerely, June. > From: imkelly21@bigpond.com > To: AUS-QLD@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 15:00:29 +1000 > Subject: [AUS-QLD] Birth of Celia Ivy DARE in 1915 > > Hi > > Could someone who has access to the Qld Births on microfiche please look up the birth of Celia Ivy DARE who was born on 27 or 29 September in 1915. The month and year should be correct but not sure about the day. Her parents were Herbert DARE and Elizabeth Jane (or Lizzie) PAYNTER. > > Thank folks > Ian Kelly > Sandstone Point Queensland > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

1922 ELECTORAL ROLL Ivy Sophia NELSON the Head Condamine, Killarney Home duties Charles NELSON the Head Killarney Farmer Charles NELSON Jnr the Head Killarney Farmer Anger NELSON the Head Killarney Teamster Florence Maud NELSON. the Head Killarney Home duties Hanna Maria NELSON the Head Killarney Home duties Robert Alexander NELSON the Head Killarney Teamster ..... 1934 ELECTORAL ROLL Ivy Sophia NELSON Killarney Home duties 12 other NELSONs in Killarney on this roll but only Florence Maud and Robert Alexander are at "The Head" ............ 1949 ELECTORAL ROLL has BARTLETT Ivy Sophia Ravenshoe Home duties BARTLETT William Thomas Ravenshoe Hoetel Proprietor ............... Have you got the marriage certificate for Cecil and Ivy according to his Army records he was married 22-9-1941 I would say there was a divorce.... my Dad was devorced in 1942 and the records are available to view at the State Archives at Runcorn... cheers Jan -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charmaine Researcher Sent: Saturday, 17 May 2014 1:46 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Ivy Sophie Wells (Nelson) & Cecil Linden Sloane

Hi Could someone who has access to the Qld Births on microfiche please look up the birth of Celia Ivy DARE who was born on 27 or 29 September in 1915. The month and year should be correct but not sure about the day. Her parents were Herbert DARE and Elizabeth Jane (or Lizzie) PAYNTER. Thank folks Ian Kelly Sandstone Point Queensland

Morning Does anyone have access to the microfische please? I am looking for the parents of this man: Anthony Keith ANDERSEN b: 14 May 1917 Adavale, Q. He married Mary Ellen JOHNSON in 1944, and she is a Ryan / Madden descendant. Any one researching his family? Lorrae J Forest Lake Q 4078 http://www.lorrae.net/ __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 9811 (20140516) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Hi Mary Ann My GOTTSCHALKS start with Carstem Heinrich Wilhelm GOTTSCHALK born 18202 Germany son of Heinrich and ??? he married my Husbands 3 x Great Grandmother Justine Whilemine HAGNOW (nee SAUL) Carstem had previously been married to Dorothea HEFFERMAN their son Heinrich Wilhelm married Maria Dorothea Marie NEIMEYER I Have a REIMERS connection also... but I dont know much about them Kay REIMERS married Rodney Graham DOUGLAS these are connected to my SCRASE Family.. So far I havent found any connection outside of Queensland but I dont have a lot of info so someone may have come from there to Queensland .. cheers Jan -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Minor Sent: Friday, 16 May 2014 5:49 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] GOTTSCHALK We have a GOTTSCHALK connection in South Australia. Kathleen Joan b. 1924, daughter of Cyril Ralph b. 1895, son of Charles August b. 1874, son of Wilhelm Alexander Julius GOTTSCHALK and Magdalena Bertha REIMERS. Wilhelm was said to be born in Altona, Germany[?] d. Melbourne, VIC. Always happy to try to make a connection and share/expand our sketchy information.

Hi, I decided to read his army records as well, I don't think he got married on 22- 9-1941 as he was already supposed to have been married at the time of his enlistment which was 26 June 1941 so the date written in red is the date the address for the wife was adjusted. (my thoughts only) If they did marry it was after the cut off available for marriages to search and 26 June 1941, as Jan said if there was a marriage there will have been a divorce so Ivy could then married William Thomas BARTLETT by 1949.  1-Ivy Sophie Wells b. 14 Aug 1895, d. 30 Aug 1977, Q'land, bur. 1 Sep 1977,   Polsen Garden Of Rest Cemetery, Hervey Bay.  + Charles Christian Nelson b. 1884, m. 18 Oct 1910, Q'land, d. 13 Aug 1938,   bur. Killarney Cemetery, par. Charles Nelson and Hannah Mariah Hansen |------2-Dorothy Elizabeth Hannah 'Dot' Nelson b. 6 Jan 1912, d. 6 Nov 1994, | bur. Killarney Cemetery |------2-Agnes Florence Nelson b. 13 Feb 1913, Q'land |------2-May Lillian Nelson b. 25 Oct 1914, Q'land |------2-John Victor Nelson b. 7 Jun 1920, d. 9 Sep 1940, bur. Killarney | Cemetery |------2-Ronald Roy Nelson b. 1927, d. 16 Sep 1956, Q'land, bur. Killarney | Cemetery Regards, Charmaine

Hello Croydon, That is an interesting story. I wonder if one of Ivy's daughter might have been sweet on Cecil rather than Ivy who by then was a mother of quite a number of children. There were 3 daughters born before 1915 - Dorothy, Agnes & May and perhaps Ivy felt it would be best to be the contact for his army records rather than a young girl. {Just my thoughts} Ivy married again after the death of her husbane Charles NELSON who is buried at Killarney Cemetery along with 2 sons who also died youngish. I'm only guessing but I assume her husband was William Thomas BARTLETT as this is whom her ashes seem to be with at Polsen Garden Of Rest Cemetery, Hervey Bay. Death's Online :- 30 August 1977 C4962 Ivy Sophy Bartlett - James Belsham Wells & Elizabeth Harrie Noyes Tragic story about Florence Ivy Ethel SUMPTON nee Abel who as you said was indeed Ivy's niece. She died in 1948 :- The Courier-Mail (Brisbane, Qld. : 1933 - 1954) Friday 2 July 1948 p 5 Article Left 13-Word Death-Note Mrs. Florence Sumpton. 37, who took an overdose of sleep ing tablets in a city pri- vate hotel, left only a 13- word death-note, it was stated in the Coroner's Court yesterday. ............................. The Coroner (Mr. A. G. Verry) closed the Inquest. Not sure if any of this is of any help but it might give you another path to look at. Warm Regards, Charmaine From: "Croydon" <croydonsloane@bigpond.com> Subject: [AUS-QLD] Ivy Sophie Wells (Nelson) & Cecil Linden Sloane Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 16:53:17 +1000 Ivy Sophie was named as the wife of Cecil Linden Sloane on a voluntary enlistment form relating to WW2 & also on a service & casualty form. Cecil enlisted in the army 26th June, 1941. They lived in South Brisbane, then Ivy moved to City Fruit Mart, Flinders Street, Townsville. Ivy Sophie nee Wells was widowed in 1938 her married name was Nelson. She had a niece call Florence Ivy Ethel Sumpton nee Abel. Ivy also had at one time at least lived with Florence. Cecil married Dorothy Joyce Polzin in 1945 at Highfields, Toowoomba & had a son, I am that child. We have no other information about Cecil who preferred to be name LINDEN. He was born in Regina Canada 18 th February 1908. This is all we know. By writing this out, maybe someone can tell us more about Cecil Linden Sloane. He did have siblings. It had been impossible to connect which ones belong to him. David Westley-Smith in England has him on his family tree as a connection to Ivy Sophie, how does he have that information to connect the 2 together. David won't or can't give out information that may lead to a family tree that I would like to create. Surely somebody would know something about Cecil Linden's past. We are prepared for any surprises, after all Ivy Sophie was one to start with. Regards, Croydon.

We have a GOTTSCHALK connection in South Australia. Kathleen Joan b. 1924, daughter of Cyril Ralph b. 1895, son of Charles August b. 1874, son of Wilhelm Alexander Julius GOTTSCHALK and Magdalena Bertha REIMERS. Wilhelm was said to be born in Altona, Germany[?] d. Melbourne, VIC. Always happy to try to make a connection and share/expand our sketchy information. Mary Ann -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill McGroder Sent: Friday, 16 May 2014 11:52 AM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] GOTTSCHALK Hi Jan and Janelle, There is a Gottschalk family in Bairnsdale Victoria. Nick Gottschalk his wife Helen and a son Peter. Not sure, but husband Nick may be deceased a couple of years back. Regards, Jill Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pam Try this - it is long so it might wrap: http://www.toowoombarc.qld.gov.au/facilities-and-recreation/cemeteries Lorrae J Forest Lake Q 4078 http://www.lorrae.net/ _____ From: Pam Dale [mailto:pamjdale@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 May 2014 10:47 AM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Cc: aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-QLD] TOOWOOMBA GARDEN OF REMEMBRANCE Does anyone have access to headstone photos of people buried in Toowoomba Garden of Remembrance? I am looking for Dawson James BATES who died 31 August 2006 age 65. His funeral was Monday 4 September 2006. Thanks in anticipation Pam in Brisbane __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 9806 (20140515) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 9806 (20140515) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Thanks Jenelle That is interesting _ Hauptmann <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauptmann> Karl Niemeyer, who remained Kommandant until the camp's closure. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holzminden_prisoner-of-war_camp#cite_note-4> [4] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holzminden_prisoner-of-war_camp#cite_note-5> [5] Niemeyer was one of a pair of twins: his brother, Heinrich, was Kommandant of the camp at Clausthal <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clausthal-Zellerfeld> . The brothers had lived inMilwaukee <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee> , Wisconsin <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin> , for 17 years (until the spring of 1917, when the United <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_entry_into_World_War_I> States entered the war), and as a result Karl was able to speak English. However, his language was filled with idiomatic errors and slang <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slang> terms: it was described by one prisoner as "bar-tender <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartender> Yank <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee#In_other_English-speaking_countries> "; <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holzminden_prisoner-of-war_camp#cite_note-6> [6] while another stated that Niemeyer "talked broken American under the impression that it was English". <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holzminden_prisoner-of-war_camp#cite_note-7> [7] The prisoners constantly ridiculed him, and nicknamed him "Milwaukee Bill". One error, which became notorious, was his assertion that "You think I do not understand the English, but I do. I know damn all about you." <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holzminden_prisoner-of-war_camp#cite_note-8> [8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holzminden_prisoner-of-war_camp The Niemeyer's of SEQld arrived in the 1883 with 3 children and another 8 were born in Qld. He was interned during WWI too and died as a result of that. HF Niemeyer helped the Qld Government to bring many settlements of Germans to Australia in the early 1900's. Lorrae J Forest Lake Q 4078 http://www.lorrae.net/ _____ From: Jenelle McCarrick [mailto:jmac2005@tpg.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 May 2014 2:28 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] WOGENSEN / RASMUSSEN / HURLEBAUS/ ZIELKE- Attn: Lorrae Jan, My Husband has a Dorothea Caroline GOTTSCHALK married to a Frederick Wilhelm FEHLHABER, (any interest to you at all). There was a set of twins NIEMEYER who were camp commanders in WW1 of POW Officers, Camp in Holzminden. Jenelle. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 9806 (20140515) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Ivy Sophie was named as the wife of Cecil Linden Sloane on a voluntary enlistment form relating to WW2 & also on a service & casualty form. Cecil enlisted in the army 26th June, 1941. They lived in South Brisbane, then Ivy moved to City Fruit Mart, Flinders Street, Townsville. Ivy Sophie nee Wells was widowed in 1938 her married name was Nelson. She had a niece call Florence Ivy Ethel Sumpton nee Abel. Ivy also had at one time at least lived with Florence. Cecil married Dorothy Joyce Polzin in 1945 at Highfields, Toowoomba & had a son, I am that child. We have no other information about Cecil who preferred to be name LINDEN. He was born in Regina Canada 18 th February 1908. This is all we know. By writing this out, maybe someone can tell us more about Cecil Linden Sloane. He did have siblings. It had been impossible to connect which ones belong to him. David Westley-Smith in England has him on his family tree as a connection to Ivy Sophie, how does he have that information to connect the 2 together. David won't or can't give out information that may lead to a family tree that I would like to create. Surely somebody would know something about Cecil Linden's past. We are prepared for any surprises, after all Ivy Sophie was one to start with. Regards, Croydon.

Thanks Jill. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill McGroder Sent: Friday, 16 May 2014 12:22 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] GOTTSCHALK Hi Jan and Janelle, There is a Gottschalk family in Bairnsdale Victoria. Nick Gottschalk his wife Helen and a son Peter. Not sure, but husband Nick may be deceased a couple of years back. Regards, Jill Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No I don't sorry Jan. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doug & Jan Sent: Friday, 16 May 2014 11:54 AM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-QLD] GOTTSCHALK Hi Janelle Dont have a Dorothea Caroline .... do you have Parents for her Jan. -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenelle McCarrick Sent: Thursday, 15 May 2014 1:58 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] WOGENSEN / RASMUSSEN / HURLEBAUS/ ZIELKE- Attn: Lorrae Jan, My Husband has a Dorothea Caroline GOTTSCHALK married to a Frederick Wilhelm FEHLHABER, (any interest to you at all). There was a set of twins NIEMEYER who were camp commanders in WW1 of POW Officers, Camp in Holzminden. Jenelle. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan and Janelle, There is a Gottschalk family in Bairnsdale Victoria. Nick Gottschalk his wife Helen and a son Peter. Not sure, but husband Nick may be deceased a couple of years back. Regards, Jill

Hi Janelle Dont have a Dorothea Caroline .... do you have Parents for her Jan. -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenelle McCarrick Sent: Thursday, 15 May 2014 1:58 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] WOGENSEN / RASMUSSEN / HURLEBAUS/ ZIELKE- Attn: Lorrae Jan, My Husband has a Dorothea Caroline GOTTSCHALK married to a Frederick Wilhelm FEHLHABER, (any interest to you at all). There was a set of twins NIEMEYER who were camp commanders in WW1 of POW Officers, Camp in Holzminden. Jenelle.

Hi Jan You mention Beutel/Bachmann in your email to the Queensland list. I have a feeling we may have spoken before. Christian Friedrich BEUTEL who married Wilhelmine ROHL are my gr-gr grandparents. About 6 different branches of the Beutel family came out from Brandenburg to Queensland and there were some to come out from other parts of Germany as well that are not as likely to be connected. I do believe all the ones from Brandenburg are related and we have had some success tying them together. There is still work to do, however. Now this particular Christian Friedrich (there are about 6 of them) and his wife Wilhelmine ROHL (or ROHUE it is sometimes spelt) had the following children: 1. Christian Friedrich BEUTEL b. 1857 Schmölln, Prenzlau, Brandenburg, Prussia (mentioned on passenger list but I have found no further record of him) 2. Wilhelm Friedrich BEUTEL b. Oct 1850 Schmölln, Prenzlau, Brandenburg, Prussia d. 17 Sept 1920 Kent's Lagoon, Kalbar, Queensland, Australia Buried: Kalbar, Queensland, Australia m. Auguste HOEPNER 1861 Stegelitz, Brandenburg, Prussia d. 8 Dec 1948 Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Buried: Kalbar, Queensland, Australia Father: Wilhelm Ludwig HOEPNER Mother: Wilhelmine Johanna Caroline BAHLOW 3. Wilhelmine Marie Elisabeth BEUTEL b.29 Sept 1862 Schmölln, Prenzlau, Brandenburg, Prussia d.23 Dec 1951 Marburg, Queensland Buried: 29 Dec 1951 Marburg Lutheran Cemetery, Marburg, Qld m. Wilhelm Christoph BACHMANN b.23 Apr 1868 d. 8 Aug 1948 Marburg, Qld Buried: Marburg Lutheran Cemetery, Marburg, Qld Father: Christian Eberhard BACHMANN Mother: Elizabeth Fredericke Wilhelmine BROSI 4. Christian Friedrich BEUTEL b. 11 Sept 1864 Schmölln, Prenzlau, Brandenburg, Prussia d. 9 Mar 1931 Toowoomba, Qld Buried: 10 Mar 1931 Helidon, Qld m. 1. Berthe Auguste Helene MULLER b. 24 Feb 1865  d. 21 Mar 1917 Dalby, Queensland, Australia Buried: Dalby, Queensland Father: Johann Gottlieb MULLER Mother: Henriette UTKE m. 2. Johanne Marie Elizabeth WILLMANN nee RUTHENBERG b. Abt 1858 d. 1934 Qld Father: Johann Friedrich RUTHENBERG Mother: Chrtistine BUROW 5. August Gottlieb BEUTEL b. 19 Oct 1870 Schmölln, Prenzlau, Brandenburg, Prussia d. 23 Jul 1959 Clevelan, Qld Buried: Cleveland, Qld m. 11 Aug 1908 Qld Wilhelmine Friedericke FEDERER nee REINHARDT b. 29 Aug 1882 Marburg, Qld d. 28 Jun 1957 Cleveland, Qld Buried: Cleveland, Qld Father: Carl August Ferdinand REINHARDT Mother: Johanna Fredericke BOBBERMIEN 6. Marie Johanna Wilhelmina Augusta "Mary" BEUTEL b. 1872 Schmölln, Prenzlau, Brandenburg, Prussia d. 18 Jan 1952 Toowoomba, Qld Buried: 19 Jan 1952 Toowoomba-Drayton Cemetery, Toowoomba, Qld m. 11 Aug 1892 Walloon, Qld Hermann Friedrich Wilhelm KAPERNICK b. 14 Sept 1871 Vierraden, Angermünde, Brandenburg, Prussia d. 11 Jul 1959 Toowoomba, Qld Buried: 13 Jul 1959 Toowoomba-Drayton Cemetery, Toowoomba, Qld. Father: Michael Friedrich KÄPERNICK MOTHER: Sophie Wilhelmine Emelie DIETRICH This last couple, Hermann and Marie KAPERNICK nee BEUTEL are my great-grandparents. Three KAPERNICK brothers came to Queensland from Brandenburg, Prussia and I am writing one family history (total 3) on each of them.  The book launch for all three and a combined family reunion for all the KAPERNICK family and all branches of the BEUTEL family to come to Queensland from Brandenburg, Prussia and the ZIMITAT family will be held at the Gatton Shire Hall, Saturday 24 May 2014 starting at 9.30 AM. There will be an evening programme and a Sunday afternoon get together in Webb Park, Toowoomba as well, followed by a tour of sites relevant to the Kapernick family in Towoomba and Lockyer areas, as far afield as Tallegalla. Jan, if you are interested in the BEUTEL family you might even like to order a copy of the book of the book on Hermann and Marie KAPERNICK nee BEUTEL. Orders and payment need to be received by Tuesday night 20 May 2015.   Warm Regards   Chris Schmidt ------------------------- Email sent using Optus Webmail

Jan, My Husband has a Dorothea Caroline GOTTSCHALK married to a Frederick Wilhelm FEHLHABER, (any interest to you at all). There was a set of twins NIEMEYER who were camp commanders in WW1 of POW Officers, Camp in Holzminden. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doug & Jan Sent: Thursday, 15 May 2014 2:17 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] WOGENSEN / RASMUSSEN / HURLEBAUS/ ZIELKE- Attn: Lorrae Hi Chris I have a couple of your names in my Tree do you recognize any of the following My BAUER's start with Michael BAUER marrying Louisa FRY in 1882 Michael was born in Ellenburg Germany 1862 Marie Dorothea NIEMEYER married Henrich Wilhelm GOTTSCHALK Maire's Father was Johann and she was born 1842 in Hanover. Wilhelmine Elizabeth BEUTEL married Wilhelm Christop BACHMANN in 1888 Wilhelmine was born in 1862 in Prussia dau of Christian Frederick BEUTEL and Wilhelmine ROHL cheers Jan Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message