Hi Lyn, Sydney Hannaford DREW, died Brisbane 3.8.1938 (1938/B04086), son of Richard Rennels DREW & Emma HANNAFORD. Check the Brisbane City Council site for a burial location. www.brisbane.qld.gov.au This site doesn't include cremations, so if he isn't listed, he could have been cremated. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (but a dinky di QLD girl). julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com

Hello Jill, He is not on the 1860 - 1869 Qld Electoral Rolls but - ORR, Thomas Hunter, Blackall, 1876, Freeholder,Val.£100, Agricultural Reserve, 47 ORR, Thomas Hunter, Blackall, 1876-77, 6 Mth.Residence, Agricultural Reserve, 57 ORR, Thomas Hunter, Blackall, 1878, Leaseholder, Agricultural Reserve, 68 ORR, Thomas Hunter, Blackall, 1879, Freeholder, Deep Creek, 81 ORR, Thomas Hunter, Rockhampton - Port Curtis, 1874-75, Leaseholder, ann. value £10, Limestone Creek, 43 ORR, Thomas Hunter, Rockhampton - Port Curtis, 1876, £10 Leaseholder, Limestone Creek, 53 ORR, Thomas Hunter, Rockhampton - Port Curtis, 1877, Leaseholder, Deep Creek, 64 ORR, Thomas Hunter, Rockhampton - Port Curtis, 1878, Leaseholder, Yaamba Road, 77 ORR, Thomas Hunter, Freeholder, Deep Creek, Blackall, 1880, 94 ORR, Thomas Hunter, Freeholder, Deep Creek, Blackall, 1881, 107 ORR, Thomas Hunter, Freeholder, Deep Creek, Blackall, 1882, 120 ORR, Thomas Hunter, Freeholder, Deep Creek, Blackall, 1883, 132 ORR, Thomas Hunter, Freeholder, Deep Creek, Blackall, 1884, 145 Cheers Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "jmglover" <jmglover@tpg.com.au> To: "AUS-QLD list" <AUS-QLD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:07 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Look-up Thomas Hunter ORR > Hello Mary-Ellen, > Could I please have a look-up for Thomas Hunter ORR in the > electoral > roll for 1880-1889? > Many thanks, > Jill > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List, Hoping someone can help with the death date for Sidney Hannaford DREW. He is listed on the 1934 Electoral Roll, but not the 1949 Roll, so likely he died in this time frame. many thanks Lyn

Laraine, Olive was born 3.7.1915 (1915/010315), daughter of Francis SELBY & Elizabeth Fanny PARROTT. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (but a dinky di QLD girl). julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com

Jill, Thanks, it was just a long shot. Cheers Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "jmglover" <jmglover@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Electoral roll 1870-1874 McWilliam look-up please? > Hi Elaine, > I haven't come across those McWilliam names at all, my family were > from Armagh, Ireland, so probably no relation at all. Sorry I can't be of > any help. > > I guess you have these Deaths on the NSW site :- > > Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) > Mother's > Given Name(s) District Purchase Certificate > 8151/1955 MCWILLIAM ..JAMES ..MATTHEW.. JEANIE ..AUBURN > 69595/1972 MCWILLIAM.. DONALD BAIN... MATTHEW.. JEANIE LIVERPOOL > > Cheers, > Jill > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Elaine, I haven't come across those McWilliam names at all, my family were from Armagh, Ireland, so probably no relation at all. Sorry I can't be of any help. I guess you have these Deaths on the NSW site :- Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District Purchase Certificate 8151/1955 MCWILLIAM ..JAMES ..MATTHEW.. JEANIE ..AUBURN 69595/1972 MCWILLIAM.. DONALD BAIN... MATTHEW.. JEANIE LIVERPOOL Cheers, Jill

Hello Mary-Ellen, Could I please have a look-up for Thomas Hunter ORR in the electoral roll for 1880-1889? Many thanks, Jill

Hi List I am looking for the birth date and parents of Olive SELBY born 1915 in Qld. Thank you. Laraine Brisbane

Hello Jill, Being on the Qld Electoral Roll has nothing to do with whether he was a 'community minded fellow' or not. In the 19th century, any male aged 21 years or over, who was a British subject, who occupied a house, warehouse or shop, who earned 25 pounds per year or more, or who had held a miner's licence for six months, was entitled to vote. However, people in some occupations, including the police, military and naval services were ineligible to vote. Persons who owned property in several different electoral division were entitled to vote in each. Hope you enjoy your trip to Rocky Central Queensland Family History Association: Club Rooms 14 Highway St., North Rockhampton during opening hours - Tuesday 1:00pm to 4:00pm Thursday 9:00am to 12 noon Friday 1:00pm to 4:00pm Saturday 1:00pm to 4:00pm Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "jmglover" <jmglover@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Electoral roll 1870-1874 McWilliam look-up please? > Thanks Janet for looking this up. John had been in Qld since 1861, I think > it's him arriving on the "Janet Dickson". He was married in Rocky in 1866, > and had a successful business there. Can't think why he wouldn't be on the > roll in the '70's, he was a very community minded fellow. > Cheers, > Jill > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Alexander Paul PERKINS was buried in Lutwyche Cemeterly 25-9-1951 age 77 1922 ELECTORAL ROLL Alexander Paul PERKINS Grove St. Albion Accountant Eliza Ann PERKINS Grove St. Albion Home duties A lot of John GRIFFIN's and William NOLAN's on roll 1934 ELECTORAL ROLL Alexander Paul PERKINS 27 Grove St Albion Accountant Eliza Ann PERKINS 27 Grove St. Albion HOme duties Charles Henry PERKINS 27 Grove St. Albion Roller Driver Ivy Blanch PERKINS 27 Grove St. Albion home duties James Alexander PERKINS 27 Grove St. Albion Grader Driver 1949 ELECTORAL ROLL Alexander Paul PERKINS 27 Grove St. Albion Accountant Eliza Ann PERKINS 27 Grove St. Albion Home duties James Alexander PERKINS 27 Grove St. Albion Engineer.. cheers Jan ----- From: "zanitaz zoe" <zanitazoe@yahoo.com.au> more information on John GRIFFIN and Alexander Paul PERKINS. They were business partners to William NOLAN (b 1862) in 1925 in the

Hi Mary, See you are still plodding along with Henry. While looking for Catherine, I came across the death of one his sons, he had with Kate McELROY. Herbert Cecil, died Brisbane 24.6.1963 (1963/B059072). I found a death which is a little confusing, if indeed it is the Catherine you are looking for. Catherine MUSGRAVE, died 19.11.1896 (1896/000507), daughter of William Henry ANDREWS & Catherine O'REILLY. Wonder if she was born out of wedlock. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (but a dinky di QLD girl). julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com

Jill, I am not any relation to the McWilliam family but I have been trying to help out a friend with a McWilliam family. She has a John Matthew McWilliam born in Girvan,Ayreshire,Scotland about 1854.He married a Jeannie Uhrdahl in 1888 in Mackay. They had 9 children all up. The first three being , Donald Bain McWilliam,Elizabeth McGregor McWilliam and Jeannie Marion McWilliam.They were born in Qld and the rest in Sydney.I do not know when John Matthew died but he is on the electoral roll in Sydney in 1930 and 1936. It is believed John was the Harbour Master in Mackay.I just wonder if there is any chance of a connection between the families. Regards Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "jmglover" <jmglover@tpg.com.au> To: "AUS-QLD list" <AUS-QLD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:14 AM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Electoral roll 1870-1874 McWilliam look-up please? > Hi everyone, > Are there any records available, e.g. Electoral roll, for Qld for > the years 1870-1874? I would like to find out where my John Richardson > McWILLIAM was living at those times. If the records are available and any > anyone has access, could I have a look-up please? > John was in Rockhampton in 1869, and could have been in Gympie in > 1870, two daughters were born there, one in Jan 1870, and he was in Hill > End, NSW, in 1874 > I have found him travelling from Brisbane to Rockhampton twice in > 1864, so he did move around a bit. > > This is the record of an unclaimed letter, address Ravenswood. > Queensland, Australia, Unclaimed Letters. > J. R. McWILLIAM > Occupation: > Nationality: > **Address: Ravenswood > Letter Code: c > Number of Letters: 2 > Date: 5 August 1871 > Volume: XII > Reference: 64 > I'm just wondering if anyone can tell me why he might be in Ravenswood, or > having mail addressed to there ? He had a Produce business in Rockhampton, > but I have a feeling that he might have been keen on something to do with > gold. > Many thanks, > Cheers, > Jill > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks for those comments, Kerry. John Richardson MCWILLIAM had a business in Rocky, "Younger and McWilliam", it sold Produce, I've seen adverts. in the newspapers for it. I don't know where he was living whilst in Rocky, he would have been there about 8 years, hope to find out on my trip there this week. Many thanks, Jill

Thanks Janet for looking this up. John had been in Qld since 1861, I think it's him arriving on the "Janet Dickson". He was married in Rocky in 1866, and had a successful business there. Can't think why he wouldn't be on the roll in the '70's, he was a very community minded fellow. Cheers, Jill

Hello List, Having trouble finding the death of Catherine MUSGRAVE nee O'REILLY She married Henry MUSGRAVE in 1896 but I have not found her death. Her daughter Catherine aged 0 died in 1896. This was Henrys 2nd marriage as far as I know. He was previously married to Kate Ide McELROY and I have found her death in 1892. I have records of their children also. I have then found a Henry Musgrave marrying a Emily Jane GALBRAITH in NSW in 1897 but not sure if this is the same Henry MUSGRAVE. Would some kind person check out Catherines death please. I have not been able to find it on the online BMDs in Queensland. I wondered if she might have died in childbirth in 1896...just a guess. Thankyou for your help, Kind regards, Mary

In the category of "you may be interested to know" . Using the National Library's digitised newspapers, I went looking for the origins of the name Queensland and found the first mention of the name was on Friday 8 July 1956 in the "Argus": http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5684127 The first mention in Queensland itself was on Wed 20 July 1856 in the Moreton Bay Courier: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article3721140 However, the story goes (and I can't give you a reference for this at the moment) that it was Queen Victoria herself who chose the name Queensland. The name that had been proposed was Cooksland and we can find newspaper references to it. The first being again in the Argus on Tues 13 July 1847: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4761946 where the Rev Lang (after whom Lang Park was named, before they called it Suncorp Stadium) talks about "the Territory of Cooksland, the Northern division of the colony of New South Wales". The Rev Lang has been attributed with coining the name "Cooksland" but I don't know if that is true or not. The first reference to Cooksland in Queensland is in the Moreton Bay Courier on Sat 7 Aug 1847: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article3712691 and again the name does crop up in a direct quote from the writings of Rev Lang. Interestingly in The Maitland Mercury & Hunter River General Advertiser on Wednesday 6 October 1847 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article693919 we see that the Rev Lang is objecting to the name "North Australia" and advocating Cooksland, suggesting that North Australia was an earlier proposed name. The Rev Lang also wanted what is now the northern part of New South Wales (including the Clarence & Richmond Rivers to be part of Cooksland). And indeed there are earlier newspaper references to it on Saturday 27 June 1846 in connection with an appointment of a Governor of North Australia, a matter which seems to have bemused the editors of a number of newspapers as there was no such colony proclaimed at that time: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article682356 but it appears that at the time they were thinking that the Colony of North Australia would be settled by ticket-of-leave men and its border run along the 26 degree of latitude (just north of Noosa) obviously intending Moreton Bay and Brisbane to remain part of New South Wales. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4759578 Amazing what you can find in these old newspapers. Kerry

Not all men could vote in the 1800s. They had to be men of substance (meaning they owned property or other tests to weed out the riff-raff). http://www.emsah.uq.edu.au/awsr/Act_Centenary/centenary.htm says that it was in 1905 that women got the vote in Qld state electoral (they had the right federally from slightly earlier) and it adds the comment: Women's winning of the vote in Queensland was accompanied by the abolition of the property vote for men. Also, even if you qualified to be on the electoral roll, you were not required to do so until around 1910-ish. So Note that the rules of voting changed at different times in the states to federally, but of course for the 1800s there were only state electoral rolls. The upshot of it all is that, unlike the 1900s, where most adults are on the electoral roll, it isn't the case in the 1800s for a host of reasons. Kerry -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Sent: Sunday, 12 July 2009 5:47 AM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Electoral roll 1870-1874 McWilliam look-up please? No sign of your man on the 1870 - 1899 Qld Electoral Rolls, but he would have to qualify to be on the roll at that time. John Richardson McWILLIAM had to at least have been a permanent resident of six months. Janet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No sign of your man on the 1870 - 1899 Qld Electoral Rolls, but he would have to qualify to be on the roll at that time. John Richardson McWILLIAM had to at least have been a permanent resident of six months. Janet

Hi  I am looking for more information on John GRIFFIN and Alexander Paul PERKINS. They were business partners to William NOLAN (b 1862) in 1925 in the Brisbane area.  RegardsChris ____________________________________________________________________________________ Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail

Jules, Thank you for looking for me. Cheers, Jill