Hey Jules that is fabulous... thank you so much Jan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "julie dern" <julie.dern@bigpond.com> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] STAPLETON - McKENZIE > Jan, > > John Edward Henry, buried Gin Gin cemetery 21.3.1980, aged 89. > > Headstone & burial register states Helena as died 14.6.1899, aged 32, > buried > 15th, but can't locate her in the death indexes, either as Hannah or Lena. > She is buried with her son Thomas Walter, died 13.12.1898, aged 6 years & > 4 > months, buried 14th, also at Gin Gin. > > Though you'd like this. > Bundaberg Mail 21.6.1899 > I desire to publicly tender to most sincere thanks to Dr. FRANCIS for his > untiring devotion and attention to my loving wife by trying all possible > means to restore her to health, but death had too strong a hold. I have > also > to thank Mrs. CANE for her untiring attention during my wife's last > moments. > My best thanks are also due to the public of Bundaberg for their sympathy > and prayers for the restoration of her life, and also the residents of Gin > Gin and surrounding districts, for the kindly feeling of sympathy shown in > the last respect to my loving wife. God hath gained her, I have lost her. > John STAPLETON. > > Bundaberg Mail 13.6.1900. > STAPLETON, My dear sister, Helena STAPLETON, died at Bundaberg 14 June > 1899, > from her sorrowing sister Alice McKENZIE. > My dear wife, Helena STAPLETON, and our kind mother, died 14 June 1899, > from > her loving husband John STAPLETON, her loving son and daughter John > STAPLETON, Jnr. and Nora STAPLETON. > > Bundaberg Mail 11.7.1900 > ROSS-STAPLETON, Gin Gin was quite a fete on Monday on the occasion of the > marriage of Mr. John ROSS (better known in the neighbourhood as 'Jack'), > to > Miss. Cis STAPLETON. > > Cheers, Jules. > Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) > > julie.dern@bigpond.com > http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. > Please don't do it. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2470 - Release Date: 10/30/09 15:18:00

Jan, John Edward Henry, buried Gin Gin cemetery 21.3.1980, aged 89. Headstone & burial register states Helena as died 14.6.1899, aged 32, buried 15th, but can't locate her in the death indexes, either as Hannah or Lena. She is buried with her son Thomas Walter, died 13.12.1898, aged 6 years & 4 months, buried 14th, also at Gin Gin. Though you'd like this. Bundaberg Mail 21.6.1899 I desire to publicly tender to most sincere thanks to Dr. FRANCIS for his untiring devotion and attention to my loving wife by trying all possible means to restore her to health, but death had too strong a hold. I have also to thank Mrs. CANE for her untiring attention during my wife's last moments. My best thanks are also due to the public of Bundaberg for their sympathy and prayers for the restoration of her life, and also the residents of Gin Gin and surrounding districts, for the kindly feeling of sympathy shown in the last respect to my loving wife. God hath gained her, I have lost her. John STAPLETON. Bundaberg Mail 13.6.1900. STAPLETON, My dear sister, Helena STAPLETON, died at Bundaberg 14 June 1899, from her sorrowing sister Alice McKENZIE. My dear wife, Helena STAPLETON, and our kind mother, died 14 June 1899, from her loving husband John STAPLETON, her loving son and daughter John STAPLETON, Jnr. and Nora STAPLETON. Bundaberg Mail 11.7.1900 ROSS-STAPLETON, Gin Gin was quite a fete on Monday on the occasion of the marriage of Mr. John ROSS (better known in the neighbourhood as 'Jack'), to Miss. Cis STAPLETON. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com

Hi Julies Please can you tell me where these deaths after 1929 are taken from - are they on microfiche or is there a cd? Thanks Rosemary julie dern wrote: >Sorry Jan, > >Hanorah Mary Cecilia CAHILL, died 29.4.1961 (1961/B044173), unmarried >daughter of John CAHILL & Ellen BIRMINGHAM. > >Cheers, Jules. >Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) > > > >

Sorry Jan, Hanorah Mary Cecilia CAHILL, died 29.4.1961 (1961/B044173), unmarried daughter of John CAHILL & Ellen BIRMINGHAM. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com

Thanks Jules Thought when I saw the years on the MI in Christmas Creek she was mine...(1894-1961) My Hanorah STAPLETON was Born in 1894 and married a Arthur CAHILL Thanks again Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "julie dern" <julie.dern@bigpond.com> To > Sorry Jan, > > Hanorah Mary Cecilia CAHILL, died 29.4.1961 (1961/B044173), unmarried

Could I please have a look up for the death of Hanora CAHILL in 1961 I believe she should be the dau of John and Helena...STAPLETON I found her burial at Christmas Creek in 1894-1961 TIA Jan

Can anyone relate to the following Family John STAPLETON born 1869 married Helena McKENZIE born 1867... Birth rego is as Lena childrens birth rego are Helena. Children John Edwin Henry STAPLETON born 1890 Walter Thomas STAPLETON born 1892 died 1898 Hanora Rose STAPLETON born 1894 Married Arthur James CAHILL I found a John Edward Henry STAPLETON in Clermont on the 1934 ELECTORAL ROLL. not sure if it is the one above... John STAPLETON born 1869 is the son of George and Ellen Nee WALLACE Helena is the dau of William John McKENZIE and Mary Ann SKELTON Hoping to find someone with this Family in their tree Jan.

My sincere thanks to all who responded, very kind of you. Much appreciated. Jules, yours of 1903, and 1913, seem promising. Many Thanks. Edna MacPherson Sabato www.sabatech.net/scotchman

I would definitely agree with Barbara (naturally) that the couple were resident in Sydney. Just out of curiosity, I looked up a bit of early RC church history. The Archdiocese of Sydney was 'erected' on 28th February, 1842, with John Bede Polding the Residential Archbishop. The Archdiocese at that time covered the whole of the eastern portion, comprising what is now known as NSW, Victoria and Queensland. [Polding might well be remembered for popularising the term 'Australian', rather than English, Irish, Scottish.] Diocese of Maitland established in 1847 as Suffragan (auxilary) to the Archibishop of Sydney. And a useless bit of goss - my g-g-grandparents were first cousins and therefore refused marriage in the Catholic Church. They married in 1858 at St James Anglican, Sydney, then went to confession and, as penance, were told not to sleep together for one week. Guess they made up for it later - they had nine daughters. I've wondered if the fact that they had no sons might have been taken as God's punishment. But She wouldn't be so mean, would She? Cheers Barbara

Aye Edna, 1913 Roll William Hughes McPHERSON, Carpenter, Flora Jane McPHERSON, Home Duties, Ayr. Also John, Clerk, Malcolm, Labourer, all of Ayr. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com

Aye Edna, Hope all is well. No sign of William in the 1895 or 1900 Roll. 1880-1884 William Hugh MACPHERSON, 1884, Residence, Mackay. 1903 Roll William McPHERSON, Farmer, Flora, Home Duties, Mundoo, Geraldton (Kennedy Shire). Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com

Steve This information would indicate that this couple were living and marrying in Sydney, I understand from information told to me when we were working on these Catholic registers that Priests used to travel mostly on horseback to the areas which became Moreton Bay, in the very early days and then they would stop over at various places where they would have been housed and fed by the people and they would have baptised any children and often also married couples and often parents, as these events often were done on the same days. Later other religions sent off the "Bush Brothers" doing the same thing, sometimes it depended on which religious order arrived first got the bulk of the business so to speak. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Jones" <sajones@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:58 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Peter Murphy > Hi Marg and Barbara! > > Well, I am certainly learning a lot about early Australian records. > Thank you so much for your assistance and everyone else that has > responded. > > Now Barbara, that is food for thought - I had never thought of that - > entered in the St Mary's Sydney register because that was the only > Catholic parish. The marriage cert. states, ---- I, Michael Brennan > of Sydney, priest Minister of St Mary's Church Sydney do hereby > certify that Peter Murphy of Sydney and Catherine Thompson of Sydney > were joined in wedlock ----- at St Mary's Church, Sydney in the > presence of Mary Anne Tyrrell (mark) and William Tyrrell both of Sydney. > > I guess this means they actually married at the church in Sydney - > any thoughts on this? > > From: "MargM" <genknut@exemail.com.au> > Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Peter Murphy - Church & Civil records > To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> > Hi Judy > > > It seems all the births were registered in 1854 Qld. > > > In 1854 the future State of Qld was part of the Colony of > NSW > > Civil ( Government) registration of BDM records in NSW > dates from 1 Mar 1856 > Would there be > > more information on the birth certificates than what > > appears on the > > baptisms - > > No because there were no such docs as birth certificates > then > > > > I also have noticed the marriage was given 2 references: > > Peter Murphy to Catherine Thompson 1842 NSW (V1842 493 130 > > and V1842 > > 126691) I have a copy of the last Reference. Would the > > other > > reference produce more information? > > > No. These Church records were very difficult to index , some > of the hand writing not brilliant so sometimes there are 2 > or 3 possibles . They can be difficult to look up . > Transcription only cost about $9 . I reckon that can be > money well spend having spent quite a few hours trying to > find quite a few refs and ordered the odd transcription > Bye MargM > > From: "Barbara OConnor" <maurie777@ozemail.com.au> > > Someone else might have picked this up and I've managed to miss it, but > with > reference to the Sydney marriage - I'm pretty sure that in 1842 there > would > have been only one RC parish from Sydney up to at least Brisbane/Moreton > Bay. So marriages would have been entered in the St Marys, Sydney > register, > regardless of where they actually took place. > > But quite happy to be corrected. > > Cheers > Barbara > > > > mailto:sajones@bigpond.net.au > > For information about my Genealogy Interests: > http://sajones.bigblog.com.au/ > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. > Please don't do it. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.34/2463 - Release Date: 10/27/09 15:50:00

Hi Marg and Barbara! Well, I am certainly learning a lot about early Australian records. Thank you so much for your assistance and everyone else that has responded. Now Barbara, that is food for thought - I had never thought of that - entered in the St Mary's Sydney register because that was the only Catholic parish. The marriage cert. states, ---- I, Michael Brennan of Sydney, priest Minister of St Mary's Church Sydney do hereby certify that Peter Murphy of Sydney and Catherine Thompson of Sydney were joined in wedlock ----- at St Mary's Church, Sydney in the presence of Mary Anne Tyrrell (mark) and William Tyrrell both of Sydney. I guess this means they actually married at the church in Sydney - any thoughts on this? From: "MargM" <genknut@exemail.com.au> Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Peter Murphy - Church & Civil records To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Hi Judy > It seems all the births were registered in 1854 Qld. In 1854 the future State of Qld was part of the Colony of NSW Civil ( Government) registration of BDM records in NSW dates from 1 Mar 1856 Would there be > more information on the birth certificates than what > appears on the > baptisms - No because there were no such docs as birth certificates then > I also have noticed the marriage was given 2 references: > Peter Murphy to Catherine Thompson 1842 NSW (V1842 493 130 > and V1842 > 126691) I have a copy of the last Reference. Would the > other > reference produce more information? > No. These Church records were very difficult to index , some of the hand writing not brilliant so sometimes there are 2 or 3 possibles . They can be difficult to look up . Transcription only cost about $9 . I reckon that can be money well spend having spent quite a few hours trying to find quite a few refs and ordered the odd transcription Bye MargM From: "Barbara OConnor" <maurie777@ozemail.com.au> Someone else might have picked this up and I've managed to miss it, but with reference to the Sydney marriage - I'm pretty sure that in 1842 there would have been only one RC parish from Sydney up to at least Brisbane/Moreton Bay. So marriages would have been entered in the St Marys, Sydney register, regardless of where they actually took place. But quite happy to be corrected. Cheers Barbara mailto:sajones@bigpond.net.au For information about my Genealogy Interests: http://sajones.bigblog.com.au/

----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna MacPherson SABATO" <ceilidh@sabatech.net> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 1:39 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] ELECTORAL ROLL QLD. > Would SKS please help with Electoral Rolls in Qld., for:-- > William Hughes MACPHERSON, b. 1839, NSW, moved to Qld., > after 1880, died. in > Brisbane, 1909, - wife, Flora. Hi Edna There is only a William Hugh MACPHERSON in the 1908 Qld electoral roll , an inmate at Dunwich No Flora MACPHERSON comes up : source Ancestrys on line Qld e rolls Bye MargM QLD List Admin

Edna, A William Hugh Macpherson was at Dunwich 1908. Inmate. I imagine the Benevolent asylum on Stradbroke Island.Regards Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna MacPherson SABATO" <ceilidh@sabatech.net> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:39 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] ELECTORAL ROLL QLD. > Would SKS please help with Electoral Rolls in Qld., for:-- > William Hughes MACPHERSON, b. 1839, NSW, moved to Qld., after 1880, died. > in > Brisbane, 1909, - wife, Flora. > TIA > Edna MacPherson Sabato > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. > Please don't do it. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Would SKS please help with Electoral Rolls in Qld., for:-- William Hughes MACPHERSON, b. 1839, NSW, moved to Qld., after 1880, died. in Brisbane, 1909, - wife, Flora. TIA Edna MacPherson Sabato

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Someone else might have picked this up and I've managed to miss it, but with reference to the Sydney marriage - I'm pretty sure that in 1842 there would have been only one RC parish from Sydney up to at least Brisbane/Moreton Bay. So marriages would have been entered in the St Marys, Sydney register, regardless of where they actually took place. But quite happy to be corrected. Cheers Barbara

Hi The Janet ORR who died in 1856 dau of James ORR and Jane GALT that taken from the Pioneer Index.... >From the death Notice in the Paper it states Janet is the wife of Mr John ORR of Stanley Quay Stanley St. South Brisbane she is age 55 and is the dau of Mr James ORR of Stane Castle near Irvine Scotland...and that she is the sister of Rev. George ORR.. so from this I would say Janet ORR dau of James and Jane GALT is the sister of your William... and she married another ORR>. perhaps a cousin...to confuse things more... The IGI has a marriage of a John ORR born ABOUT 1801 Irvine to a Janet ORR married ABOUT 1826 in Irvine... THE following from the IGI are Children with Parents John ORR and Janet ORR born in Irvine Jean ORR 2-6-1822 John ORR born 22-3-1824 James ORR born 27-1-1827 James ORR that died 26-9-1875 in Brisbane and Burried in Sth Bris... rego states his Parents are John ORR and Janet... ***Think he is the son of John ORR and Janet ORR as rego states born Scotland age 48 which would be the one born 27-1-1827 Death Rego is 1875/B9943 Then the John ORR who died 18-10-1891 definately states his parents of John ORR and Janet ORR ref no is 1891/003465 The death of John ORR in 1871 states he is 82 and born Scotland... so possibly Janet ORR's Husband.. Newspaper articles state that Jessie ORR 3 dau of Mr John ORR of South Brisbane married a John Wylie WILSON in 1854 Fed. Index has a death of Jessie WILSON 15-12-1897 Father John ORR Mother Jessie ORR ref 1897/000210 I am interested in the ORR FAmily as a cousin has stated that somewhere our MUIR's connect to the ORR's havent found the link yet.. I also have ORR from Brisbane married into my KELLY Family... INCLUDING a James ORR...Parents are James and Mary McALPINE he married Eliza HUME Jan

Hi Jill So we are looking for a Brother of James ORR who married Jean or Jane GALT.. John and James of South Brisbane would be His Child.. Do you know the above James's Parents.... The IGI has James ORR and Janet GALT married 1817 registered in Irvine and birth about 1792 Also on the IGI is the Birth of James ORR in Irvine in 1791 with Parents John and Margaret YOUNG There is another Child John ORR to John ORR and Margaret YOUNG.. Perhaps the Death of John ORR in 1888 with only the Father as John ORR could be John and Margaret YOUNG's Child...he is buried in Sth Brisbane or the One who died in 1871.. No Father was given on this rego..but he is reg. as John ORR Jnr.. he is burried with a Margaret ORR .. who is the dau of James FORRESTER and Isabella McDOUGAL **Perhaps his wife... cant find that marriage on the QLd index.. A Janet ORR died 16-7-1856 in Brisbane Father James ORR Mother Jane GALT ref 1856/B000041 William ORR died 3-2-1881 Father William ORR Mother Jane GAULT ref 1881/002222 There is also a Jean Susannah Maggie Hunter ORR who was buried 2-3-1995 age 97 years Jan > Hi Jan, > William ORR snr was married to Jane HUNTER in Scotland, his parent's > were James ORR and Jean GALT. He settled in Rockhampton about 1860, died > in > 1881. >