Mmmm, I wonder if they need a vollanteer to do it for them?? :) Cheers. Annie > Gay Fielding <gayze@tpg.com.au> wrote: > > If it Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It.!! > >While the registration date says 1922, if you try restricting the > range of > >dates to 1/1/1922 to > > 31/12/1922, then the search fails which tells you that the death > occurred > > in > a previous year. > > Simply because the year of the death is registered as 1922, .how would > anyone know it was a War Death...and go to all that trouble, since there > is > no Prefix.. > There were lots of people who died in 1922, who were not War Deaths.. > I don't think we should be put to that inconvenience, when changes to > the > software could be made to alleviate the problems we have complained > about... > Digger Software was fine.and the search facility fantastic.... bring it > back > with the extensions to the dates... > Gay > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry Raymond" <kraymond@iprimus.com.au> > To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:49 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] new Qld BDMs -- those pesky dates actually have > someadvantages > > > > And you can use this technique on our WW1 dead. > > > You can then experiment with the date ranges as I described in my > previous > > message to pin down the actual date of death. > > > > If you want to experiment, try my Archibald Raymond. He has one of > those > > 1922 WW1 death registrations. Using the date ranges, I pinned his date > of > > death down accurately using the online BDMs (OK, I already knew it, > but > > how > > handy if I didn't). > > > > Kerry > > > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post > any > > reply...... Thank you! > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus.

I do like that, very clever Kerry. Cheers. Annie > Kerry Raymond <kraymond@iprimus.com.au> wrote: > > > > So you see the idea. By progressively narrowing down the range of dates, > I > can eventually narrow it down to 14/10/1935 to 14/10/1935 and yes his > death > index is found, thus establishing his date of death is 14 Oct 1935 > (which it > is). > > > > A bit of a pain in the bum to do, but still faster than going to > somewhere > that has the microfiche in order to get the exact date. > > > > Kerry > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus.

You're fantastic Jules, you always come up with the answers. I did try Dorothy Kathleen on Qld bdms but of course it's outside the dates. That just leaves Hazel. I don't hold out much hope for finding cousins. Out of 6 boys in Joseph Williams family, 1 died as a baby, 2 died in their 20s from accidents, my Pa had 3 kids then there were 11 grankids with 5 still alive, David had 2 kids & 1 lived with 2 grankids & there's Joseph. Mmmm. Not many cousins there. Thanks Jules. Cheers. Annie > julie dern <julie.dern@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Anne, > > Joseph Allen SMITH, born 24.3.1915 (1915/B039599), son of Joseph William > > SMITH & Catherine Blanch FRENCH. Buried 8.8.1915, Toowong Cemetery, > Brisbane. Catherine Blanch also buried Toowong Cemetery, Brisbane > 28.3.1915. > > 1913 Electoral Roll > Joseph William, Traveller & Catherine Blanch, Home Duties, Lindsay St., > Toowoomba. > > The Joseph William who married Alice UNDERWOOD, died 31.1.1964, aged 66, > > buried Oakey Cemetery with wife Alice M., died 6.6.1965, aged 70. > > There is a Dorothy Kathleen SMITH, died 6.7.1992, aged 82, buried Lawn > Section, Drayton Cemetery, Toowoomba. > > The Dorothy Carwardine SMITH buried at Kingaroy died in 1989 & buried > with > her husband Hubert. > > Cheers, Jules. > Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) > > julie.dern@bigpond.com > http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus.

Thanks Jan, Yes, I have most of that. Old Joseph married Alice Mary UNDERWOOD in 1928, yes Oakey, I couldn't think of the place. Catherine died 1915 so won't be on the rolls after that. Cheers. Annie > Doug & Jan <jst88221@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > Joseph Allen's Death rego has Mother as Catherine Blanche FRENCH > 1915/21684 > > Catherine Blanche FRENCH married Joseph William SMITH 6-1-1909 ref > 1909/003139 > > Hazel Abey SMITH born 19-2-1910 Father Joseph William Mother Catherine > BlancheFRENCH ref 1910/012861 > Dorothy Catherine SMITH born 6-1-1912 Father Joseph William Mother > Catherine > Blanche FRENCH ref 1912/012663 > > No Catherine Blanche SMITH on the 1934 ELECTORAL ROLL > No Hazel Abey SMITH or Dorothy Catherine SMITH > 3 Joseph WIlliam SMITHS one at Ipswich, Yeronga and Oakey > Joswph William SMITH Coorela 6 Joyce St. East Ipswich... Tinsmith > Olive Letitia Ormsby SMITH Cooreela 6 Joyce St. East Ipswich Home duties > Joseph William SMTIH Kent St. Oakey Labourer > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anne caroline pittard" <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> > To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:03 PM > Subject: [AUS-QLD] birth & death lookup please > > > > > > > > I'm having trouble finding deaths for my cousins Dorothy Catherine > > Smith born 1912 & Catherine Abey Smith born 1910 somewhere around > Warwick > > I think. Also, their brother Joseph Allen died 1915 but there's no > > birth on Qld bdms. Their parents were Joseph William Smith b1880 > > Balmain nsw d1961 Qld, & Catherine Abey French b1880 d1915 Qld. > > Thankyou. > > > > > > Cheers. Annie. from Cairns, Aus. > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post > any > > reply...... Thank you! > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.78/2521 - Release Date: > 11/23/09 > 17:52:00 Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus.

Thanks Jan. Cheers. Annie > Doug & Jan <jst88221@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > There is a Dorothy C. SMITH buried in Kingaroy no details available on > the > Index.. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anne caroline pittard" <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> > To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:03 PM > Subject: [AUS-QLD] birth & death lookup please > > > > > > > > I'm having trouble finding deaths for my cousins Dorothy Catherine > > Smith born 1912 & Catherine Abey Smith born 1910 somewhere around > Warwick > > I think. Also, their brother Joseph Allen died 1915 but there's no > > birth on Qld bdms. Their parents were Joseph William Smith b1880 > > Balmain nsw d1961 Qld, & Catherine Abey French b1880 d1915 Qld. > > Thankyou. > > > > > > Cheers. Annie. from Cairns, Aus. > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post > any > > reply...... Thank you! > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.78/2521 - Release Date: > 11/23/09 > 17:52:00 Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus.

I don't know Kerry. I have the girl's births but I didn't know about young Joseph until I found him in the qld bdms deaths the other night. His mother Catherine died 1915 too so probably at/after his birth. I don't know if the girls married, bit hard with Smiths. We didn't have any contact with this mob. I'd love to find cousins. Thankyou. Cheers. Annie > Kerry Raymond <kraymond@iprimus.com.au> wrote: > > Since the Qld birth indexes only go to 1914, Joseph may have been born > in > 1915. > > Do you know if the two girls married as their deaths would be recorded > under > their married names in that case? > > Also death indexes only go to 1964, so they are likely to have outlived > that > cut-off. Again, if you have a reason to think they died earlier than > that, > let us know what information you have. > > Kerry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of anne caroline pittard > Sent: Monday, 23 November 2009 11:03 PM > To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-QLD] birth & death lookup please > > > > I'm having trouble finding deaths for my cousins Dorothy Catherine > Smith > born 1912 & Catherine Abey Smith born 1910 somewhere around Warwick I > think. > Also, their brother Joseph Allen died 1915 but there's no birth on Qld > bdms. > Their parents were Joseph William Smith b1880 Balmain nsw d1961 Qld, & > Catherine Abey French b1880 d1915 Qld. Thankyou. > > > Cheers. Annie. from Cairns, Aus. > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus.

I am not saying everything about the new system is good, but being able to work out the exact date is a useful "quirk" of the current arrangement. And thanks Eileen for the tip about the NZ online index. I just worked out the exact date of birth of my step-great-grandmother. Kerry

Hi With the new date format I find it possible to get the precise date of the event by progressively narrowing the search range once the event has been located. By checking that the new search finds your event you can continue until you are just searching over one day, thus defining the date of your event.It does mean making several searches, but it does get the exact date. Regards, Stanley Chiverton ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@exemail.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Qld BMD's DATES > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gay Fielding" <gayze@tpg.com.au> > To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:55 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Qld BMD's DATES > > >> >I must say I am more than a little frustrated with all >> >this new format. Not >> easy to understand and why would we need to have a full >> date?< >> >> The best thing to do, is to complain...in the right >> quarter... >> As I did.. >> There is a feedback form on the website....Use that.. >> The squeaky wheel gets the grease...so the More people who >> complain, the >> sooner things will get fixed.. > Hi Gay > > I post my 2 bobs worth a couple of days ago ............. > Ended with something along the lines of they give with one > hand and take twice as much away with the other . This date > business is just so picky . Didnt need to be > > > Bye > > > MargM > QLD List Admin > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If it Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It.!! >While the registration date says 1922, if you try restricting the range of >dates to 1/1/1922 to > 31/12/1922, then the search fails which tells you that the death occurred > in > a previous year. Simply because the year of the death is registered as 1922, .how would anyone know it was a War Death...and go to all that trouble, since there is no Prefix.. There were lots of people who died in 1922, who were not War Deaths.. I don't think we should be put to that inconvenience, when changes to the software could be made to alleviate the problems we have complained about... Digger Software was fine.and the search facility fantastic.... bring it back with the extensions to the dates... Gay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Raymond" <kraymond@iprimus.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] new Qld BDMs -- those pesky dates actually have someadvantages > And you can use this technique on our WW1 dead. > > You can then experiment with the date ranges as I described in my previous > message to pin down the actual date of death. > > If you want to experiment, try my Archibald Raymond. He has one of those > 1922 WW1 death registrations. Using the date ranges, I pinned his date of > death down accurately using the online BDMs (OK, I already knew it, but > how > handy if I didn't). > > Kerry > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

And you can use this technique on our WW1 dead. While the registration date says 1922, if you try restricting the range of dates to 1/1/1922 to 31/12/1922, then the search fails which tells you that the death occurred in a previous year. You can then experiment with the date ranges as I described in my previous message to pin down the actual date of death. If you want to experiment, try my Archibald Raymond. He has one of those 1922 WW1 death registrations. Using the date ranges, I pinned his date of death down accurately using the online BDMs (OK, I already knew it, but how handy if I didn't). Kerry

I know we all think those dd/mm/yy dates in the new online Qld BDM index are a real pain. BUT you can use them to your advantage. As you know, the online index only gives you the year of the event. But, guess what, you can work out the full date. The trick is this. Suppose I don't know when my g-grandfather Alfred John Raymond died (as it happens, he died on 14 Oct 1935). So I look for his death with the widest range of dates by searching from 1/1/1829 and I discover that there is a 1935 registration for his death. So now I search again but restrict the search to 1/1/1935 to 30/6/1935. No records found. So I try with 1/7/1935 to 31/12/1935 and yes his death index is returned. Aha, so he was born in the later half of the year. So I try again, checking the range July-Sept. No records found. I check Oct-Dec, and yes there he is. So you see the idea. By progressively narrowing down the range of dates, I can eventually narrow it down to 14/10/1935 to 14/10/1935 and yes his death index is found, thus establishing his date of death is 14 Oct 1935 (which it is). A bit of a pain in the bum to do, but still faster than going to somewhere that has the microfiche in order to get the exact date. Kerry

So much for lodging complaints. They think it is User Friendly ???? See the Reply from Justice Dept. below They're not going to change it. Seems they are not going to do anything now...The up and coming genealogists will have to struggle with the unworkable database, UNTIL A FUTURE RELEASE.. which according to Barbara Robinson, (I think it was)...won't be for quite a long long time... They'll take out money though for those certificates which are harder and harder to find.. I'm spitting chips over this, as am sure many others are..Gay To: <gayze@tpg.com.au> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: BDM Website Feedback Thankyou for your email received recently following the access to the Registry's website and primarily your interest in the historical indexes online searching facility. The Registry is very pleased to be able release the additional historical indexes online. Every endeavour has been made to develop a user-friendly and improved database of index records. However the Registry accepts, that there is always room for improvement. Your comments will be recorded for future releases. Kind regards Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages 110 George Street, Brisbane PO Box 15188,City East QLD 4002 T **************************************************************** Please think about the environment before you print this message. This email and any attachments may contain confidential, private or legally privileged information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If you are not the intended addressee and this message has been sent to you by mistake, please notify the sender immediately, destroy any hard copies of the email and delete it from your computer system network. Any legal privilege or confidentiality is not waived or destroyed by the mistake. Opinions in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Justice and Attorney-General or the Queensland Government. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interferences by third parties or replication problems. ****************************************************************

Date range is 1/1/1829 or 01/01/1829 Just change to the year you want but this is the format used Regards Eileen New Zealand Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jules thanks the election part would be correct as he worked for Gordon and Gotch as a storeman Colin

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gay Fielding" <gayze@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Qld BMD's DATES > >I must say I am more than a little frustrated with all > >this new format. Not > easy to understand and why would we need to have a full > date?< > > The best thing to do, is to complain...in the right > quarter... > As I did.. > There is a feedback form on the website....Use that.. > The squeaky wheel gets the grease...so the More people who > complain, the > sooner things will get fixed.. Hi Gay I post my 2 bobs worth a couple of days ago ............. Ended with something along the lines of they give with one hand and take twice as much away with the other . This date business is just so picky . Didnt need to be Bye MargM QLD List Admin

>I must say I am more than a little frustrated with all this new format. Not easy to understand and why would we need to have a full date?< The best thing to do, is to complain...in the right quarter... As I did.. There is a feedback form on the website....Use that.. The squeaky wheel gets the grease...so the More people who complain, the sooner things will get fixed.. Gay

> Hence why they are marked F1922. Sorry Sue...You may have missed the posting about the new data base...and the concerns of people on the list...the new Online database with extended dates. is at https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/BirIndexQry.m There is no such thing, any longer, as . F1922. Indexes are omitted from the new database.. I can understand the delayed registration date, but it seems the Dept, is allowing the public to struggle through and work things out themselves...IF they know the little intricacies...such as the date for War death registrations...(which I didn't) or the 'popular belief ' that War Dead were returned to Australia... (I had never heard of that.) I have many War dead in my family buried near the location of many theatres of War.. But notwithstanding that...There is no indication on the death records, that these are WW1 deaths..and there should be... How on earth is anyone going to know it is a War Death, unless the justice Department re-instate the Historical Index Prefixes.. as quickly as possible. Gay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Olsen" <sueolsensueolsen@gmail.com> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] No respect for our War Dead > All WW1 deaths were registered in 1922 because there was not a complete > list > of the dead and there were some that were obviously missing. Until full > details were provided from the military and a complete list of those were > compiled. > Hence why they are marked F1922. meaning Foreign 1922. > Please note that contrary to common belief those that died overseas were > not > returned to Australia. With the exception of the unknown soldier interred > in > the war memorial. > > Anyway... hope this helps. > > cheers > Sue. > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Thank you. On the births I did try a made up date as I was not sure of the year even and this did not seem to work. I must say I am more than a little frustrated with all this new format. Not easy to understand and why would we need to have a full date? Why not the old system 1900-1914 which worked just nice. Regards Bev and thanks again Eileen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen Smith" <smpabu@gmail.com> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Qld BMD's > > > Date range is 1/1/1829 or 01/01/1829 > > Just change to the year you want but this is the format used > > Regards > Eileen > New Zealand > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.79/2522 - Release Date: 11/23/09 19:45:00

Can someone please tell me what date format should be used in the new on-line indexes. It does not seem to want to search 1910-1914 date range for births. What dates should I be using please? Nothing seems to show up on Search Tips. Bev

If you use the following address you can search all Brisbane cemeteries http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/BCC:BASE::pc=PC_899 Greg in Brisbane