Hi Gay 1922 would be the year it was registered. We all seem to forget that the date with the reference number is not the dates of the events, but the date the event was registered. I have several relatives who where born late 1890 and some early 1900, who were reigstered in the 1920's when they wanted to get married. The births all show 1920's - as that is the year of registration. This can also be seen with Dec events - they are registered in January so the year is the year they were registered. My grand uncle was also registered in 1920, and he died 1917 in WWI too. Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich -----Original Message----- From: Gay Fielding [mailto:gayze@tpg.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2009 6:42 AM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] ..WILD CARDs Codes etc Complaint sent. Hi Jill, I used the Contact Us email address bdm-mail@justice.qld.gov.au You can also give them feedback, on the feedback form, at the bottom of the page for Historical index search tips. and I have used that as well, today..for another complaint. I checked up on a War Death in my family..which occurred on the Somme in 1918. It is on the site, but the year is listed as 1922 without a Code for a Forces death.. This shows no respect to those who fought and died for us... Gay __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4638 (20091126) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Hi Doug & Jane, Found a Mary J METCALFE at McLeod St Pioneer Cemetery, 1866 - 1914 http://s4space.com.au/cpc3.html regards Kerry

I grew up in Cairns not more than 100 metres from the cemetery gates in Martyn Street and around the corner in Anderson Street was the Andesonville post office which was run by a family named METCALFE. They had a son who I think had polio. Whilst in the post office with my mother one day a small lad, probably no more than six or seven years old walked in from out the back and quite loudly and definitely told his mother behind the counter that he had 'fixed them'. When his mother asked what he meant he replied 'I flushed the little buggers down the toilet'. She ran out back and removed six very wet kittens from the toilet bowl. It was the result of the little lad over hearing a conversation between his parents the night before. Sorry I don't have any genealogy information for you. -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doug and Jane Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:21 AM To: AUS-QLD@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-QLD] HINTON OF BRISBANE HI All My interests relate to the following family names: . HINTON (Toowong, Oxfordshire) . COLLAMORE (Toowong and Devon) . METCALFE (Cairns and Brisbane) . APPLETON (Blackstone,Ipswich and Yorkshire) . NUTT (Oxfordshire) . HARRIS (Devon, Toowomba, Toowong) . GOTTSCHALK (Nundah and Hannover) My early ancestors Charles HINTON and wife Anne (nee NUTT) arrived in Moreton Bay in 1875 on the INDUS from Cuddesdon, Oxfordshire. On board the same vessel was Charle's brother Henry and wife Harriett (nee STONE). Other connections on the same vessel included the MUNTs also from Cuddesdon. Anyone with connections please contact me via the list as I have extensive information on all except the METCALFE family. Cheers Doug and Jane HINTON Canberra ACT Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Jules. Under Priaulx?? Pronounced Pree-oo. Preeo, Preo. $9- & typed up, now they fill in the blanks on the computer then hit print for $34-. Many thanks Jules. Cheers. Annie. > julie dern <julie.dern@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Hazel is buried in the Hughenden Cemetery. > > Totally agree, $34 for a certificate is outrageous. I remember when I > first > started buying them, they were $9.00. > > Cheers, Jules. > Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) > > julie.dern@bigpond.com > http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus.

Thank you for that Kerry, when I searched Australian Cemeteries I did not find the record. A few kind lister sent me a photo of the headstone. . .· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*.` Jenny McCarthy Brightwaters on beautiful Lake Macquarie

Hazel is buried in the Hughenden Cemetery. Totally agree, $34 for a certificate is outrageous. I remember when I first started buying them, they were $9.00. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com

Hi Jenny, Samuel & Delilah MASSEY are buried at Ipswich General Cemetery Methodist Uniting Church B online at http://www.australiancemeteries.com/qld/ipswich/ipswich.htm Victor Edward MASSEY is in the same grave as Samuel & Delilah regards Kerry

Hi Doug and Jane, At Ipswich General Cemetery Anglican Church of England B section there is Clyda E. M. APPLETON d: 5 Apr 1938 age 30 yrs 10 mths AICor GL. L. T. C. L. F. T. C. L. (sorry no idea what the letters mean) Thomas APPLETON d: 3 Feb 1945 age 72 and his wife Mary A. APPLETON d: 11 Aug 1958 age 78 regards Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug and Jane" <doug_and_jane@internode.on.net> To: <AUS-QLD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:20 AM Subject: [AUS-QLD] HINTON OF BRISBANE > HI All > > My interests relate to the following family names: > > . HINTON (Toowong, Oxfordshire) > > . COLLAMORE (Toowong and Devon) > > . METCALFE (Cairns and Brisbane) > > . APPLETON (Blackstone,Ipswich and Yorkshire) > > . NUTT (Oxfordshire) > > . HARRIS (Devon, Toowomba, Toowong) > > . GOTTSCHALK (Nundah and Hannover) > > > > My early ancestors Charles HINTON and wife Anne (nee NUTT) arrived in > Moreton Bay in 1875 on the INDUS from Cuddesdon, Oxfordshire. On board the > same vessel was Charle's brother Henry and wife Harriett (nee STONE). > Other > connections on the same vessel included the MUNTs also from Cuddesdon. > > > > Anyone with connections please contact me via the list as I have extensive > information on all except the METCALFE family. > > > > Cheers > > Doug and Jane HINTON > > Canberra ACT > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HI All My interests relate to the following family names: . HINTON (Toowong, Oxfordshire) . COLLAMORE (Toowong and Devon) . METCALFE (Cairns and Brisbane) . APPLETON (Blackstone,Ipswich and Yorkshire) . NUTT (Oxfordshire) . HARRIS (Devon, Toowomba, Toowong) . GOTTSCHALK (Nundah and Hannover) My early ancestors Charles HINTON and wife Anne (nee NUTT) arrived in Moreton Bay in 1875 on the INDUS from Cuddesdon, Oxfordshire. On board the same vessel was Charle's brother Henry and wife Harriett (nee STONE). Other connections on the same vessel included the MUNTs also from Cuddesdon. Anyone with connections please contact me via the list as I have extensive information on all except the METCALFE family. Cheers Doug and Jane HINTON Canberra ACT

I recall someone telling me that the WW1 delay was due to legislation. Normally you have to die in Qld (or whichever state) for your death to be registered there, so the death in Europe of an Australian serviceman didn't qualify for entry in our death registers and so it took a change of legislation to allow their deaths to be registered. Having said all that, I don't have any proof that it's true. But it would explain why they are all registered in 1922. While there were many missing in action, there were equally plenty whose deaths in 1914-1918 were well documented, so you would think they could have registered those deaths straightaway at least, even if the MIAs took longer. Something that I have never bothered to think through is which Australian state their death would be registered in. Would it be the one they were born in, enlisted in, resided in prior to enlisting, or what? There must have been some principle established to ensure they were registered somewhere. Kerry -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Robinson Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 2009 3:31 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] No respect for our War Dead There is a five year gap between actual war deaths and the registration of the even on most Australian Indexes, that is how long it took them to finalise the records, as I understand it, because there were so many "Missing in Action" or "Death place unknown", If you take the time to look you will find there is a gap also re second world war deaths being released. Barbara BNE ----- Original Message ----- From: "julie dern" <julie.dern@bigpond.com> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] No respect for our War Dead > Gay, > > Just a note. All First World War deaths are registered in 1922. I have no > idea exactly why this is. Perhaps someone on the list can shed some light > on > why. > > Cheers, Jules. > Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) > > julie.dern@bigpond.com > http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.76/2518 - Release Date: 11/21/09 19:41:00 Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am researching these families in Queensland. Daniel Dennis Caldwell McLAUCHLAN m Sarah Merkara MASSEY, Thomas Skiffins BOWMAN m Mary Bradley, and Samuel MASSEY m Delilah HARRIS Does anyone have any information on these families. . .· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*.` Jenny McCarthy Brightwaters on beautiful Lake Macquarie

There is a five year gap between actual war deaths and the registration of the even on most Australian Indexes, that is how long it took them to finalise the records, as I understand it, because there were so many "Missing in Action" or "Death place unknown", If you take the time to look you will find there is a gap also re second world war deaths being released. Barbara BNE ----- Original Message ----- From: "julie dern" <julie.dern@bigpond.com> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] No respect for our War Dead > Gay, > > Just a note. All First World War deaths are registered in 1922. I have no > idea exactly why this is. Perhaps someone on the list can shed some light > on > why. > > Cheers, Jules. > Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) > > julie.dern@bigpond.com > http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.76/2518 - Release Date: 11/21/09 19:41:00

I've always look at WW1 records at NAA and War Memorial, and found the WW2 Roll very handy for locating birth dates after the NSW BDM cut off date. My family is largely NSW based but, after following this discussion, I've looked up a few deaths which occurred in WW1 - one in a military hospital in England, and a couple in the war zones. None are recorded in NSW BDMs. I also have a large family contingent in Victoria. A number of their NAA files contain correspondance from solicitors requesting death certificates which were issued by the AIF. Since Victorian BDM's are 'pay by view', I don't look them up unless I absolutely have to. Is it only Queensland which registered the war deaths? Or were mine, particularly the NSW ones, just anomalies? Cheers Barbara

Hazel is buried in the Hughenden Cemetery. Totally agree, $34 for a certificate is outrageous. I remember when I first started buying them, they were $9.00. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com

Gay, Can I also add, that the war dead listings on the Microfiche have AIF in the registration number., for both conflicts. Please don't be too harsh with the registry regarding the variations on surnames. These errors (shouldn't really call them errors) occur purely because of someones dreadful handwriting in the original records, when the events were recorded. Remembering back to the days when we could get copies of original records from the QLD State Archives, some of them were almost illegible the handwriting was so dreadful. So spare a thought for some poor volunteer indexer who was part of the team converting the records to the formats we now have. I'm glad I don't have to use the online indexes, they sound a real nightmare. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com

Thanks Kerr, great idea hadn't thought of that. Regards, June ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Raymond" <kraymond@iprimus.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] new Qld BDMs -- those > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Way to go Kerry, very clever indeed BUT Jules is very fast - LOL Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Raymond" <kraymond@iprimus.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:42 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] new Qld BDMs -- those pesky dates actually have someadvantages >I know we all think those dd/mm/yy dates in the new online Qld BDM index >are > a real pain. BUT you can use them to your advantage. > > > > As you know, the online index only gives you the year of the event. But, > guess what, you can work out the full date. > > > > The trick is this. Suppose I don't know when my g-grandfather Alfred John > Raymond died (as it happens, he died on 14 Oct 1935). So I look for his > death with the widest range of dates by searching from 1/1/1829 and I > discover that there is a 1935 registration for his death. > > > > So now I search again but restrict the search to 1/1/1935 to 30/6/1935. No > records found. So I try with 1/7/1935 to 31/12/1935 and yes his death > index > is returned. Aha, so he was born in the later half of the year. So I try > again, checking the range July-Sept. No records found. I check Oct-Dec, > and > yes there he is. > > > > So you see the idea. By progressively narrowing down the range of dates, I > can eventually narrow it down to 14/10/1935 to 14/10/1935 and yes his > death > index is found, thus establishing his date of death is 14 Oct 1935 (which > it > is). > > > > A bit of a pain in the bum to do, but still faster than going to somewhere > that has the microfiche in order to get the exact date. > > > > Kerry > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.79/2522 - Release Date: 11/24/09 05:45:00

Hello All, Apart from paying an outrageous amount of $34 for a historical death cert. is there another way I could find where Grace Templeton was living when she died on the 13th June 1899? As far as I know it was somewhere near or in Hughendon, QLD. Also would anyone know of the cemeteries in this area? looking for _________________________________________________________________ Download new and classic emoticon packs at Emoticon World Brought to you exclusively by Windows Live http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/emoticon.aspx?

Hi Gay, Thanks for sending that email, I'll get started on a letter, though don't hold much hope for change. Cheers, Jill

Sometimes you can get something done by writing to the Opposition Member for whatever. It doesn't hurt to write to the Minister either, but the members in opposition like something they can complain about in parliament. Also, Ministerial requests from both government and opposition members DEMAND a response from the department. www.cabinet.qld.gov.au , I think, is the place to find out who s/he is - it's Department of Justice and Attorney-General. I keep getting the message 'There is a problem with the website's security certificate' - very frustrating! Also, consider writing a letter rather than sending an email - seen by more people, has to be directed to the right person for a reply, and can't be deleted at the touch of a button. More importanly, it is likely that the response, and therefore the problem, will be more considered. I haven't had much need to look up Qld registrations in the past but wasn't terribly impressed with what was available, in comparison to NSW and Victoria. I don't dare go back to see what 'progress' has been made. Cheers Barbara