Hi Stephen, Quite possible there is a further connection. Doesn't look like Jane was born in OZ but she married Thomas PATTON 31 May 1869/000595 She did die 3 Oct 1876/002484 with last name PATTEN Children: Elizabeth PATON b: 24 Jan 1872/003605 Margaret Ann PATON b: 7 Apr 1874/004593 Thomas PATON b: 10 Jan 1876/004787 d: 30 Jul 1883/001020 last name reg as PATTON John PATTON b: 16 May 1870/003362 QLD Electoral Rolls 1880-1885 A Thomas PATTON lived, Freehold, Boundary Street, South Brisbane, 1880, 1881, 1882, 1883 and 1884 and a Thomas PATTEN lived Residence, North TOOLBURRA, Warwick & Allora/Darling Downs, 1880, 1881, 1882, 1883 & 1884 Hope you find this useful in your research she might be connected with any luck regards Kerry

Thank-you Kerry for that information. I have a Photo of Hilda about 1yr old and a Memorial card of a 2yr old Harold Lawson, so would love to find any Descendants of this Family. I am now looking for Descendants of Eric Walter LAWSON born 1915 and Hil da Edna BIRSE nee Lawson. The last known address I have for Eric LAWSON is 1954 Rosemount Terrace Windsor. The last known address for Hilda was before she was married 1954 13 Albert Street Annerly QLD she was living with her parents Henry Walter Lawson and Florence Maud Lawson nee Forder. Henry Walter Lawson died in Albert Street 1974, I so wish I had tried to find this family earlier. This info was kindly given to me by a Melbourne Lister. Regards Shirley Cambridge uk !

In my younger days I used to amuse myself reading the death notices in the Sydney Morning Herald, on the lookout for unusual names. It was not uncommon for babies to be named after famous people or events. Federation seemed to be a popular choice for both boys and girls born around the time of that event. Victoria (and Victor) were very popular in 1901, the year of the Queen's death. And some people made unfortunate choices. Would you, for example, name your daughter Lilly Roots? Since coming the family history much later in life, I have found a Pretoria (born 1881, during the Seige of) and my French g-g-grandfather named his first son John Napoleon (John was the maternal grandfather). Alma has its roots in the Crimean War (1853-56) and went on to become a very popular name for many years. I have an Alma Constance (1876) in the family - her father had a blacksmith's shop across the road from the Alma Hotel (still there but now the Alma Cafe). Can't help but wonder if her father spent a fair amount of time at the pub. Cheers Barbara

Good morning Stephen, Minnie MEYER was born 11 June 1914, out of the Brisbane area. Cheers Janet

Greetings all, whilst I'm on the trail for children born out of wedlock, here is another conundrum that you might be able to help me with ... Another great-Aunt of mine may have given birth to a baby Minnie MEYER: 1914/C102 Meyer, Minnie, born to Florence Meyer, no name for father given. The mother's full name would have been (I kid you not) Florence Nightingale Meyer, and the baby was probably named after Florence's mother Wilhelmine (Minnie) Meyer. Any more recorded information (birth details) might be a great help in pinning down the fact that the child was indeed the offspring of my Great-aunt, or was there another Florence Meyer out there? Cheers ... -- Stephen Nicholson (Wollongong)

Thanks for that Marg, I do indeed have some "Tassie twigs" - so I hope I can find some juicy goss hanging from those branches. Cheers ... - Stephen On 8 Dec 2009, at 6:01 PM, MargM wrote: > Tasmanian wills 1824 - 1989 have all been digitised and > can be looked up for FREE !

Hi there Kerry, thanks very much for jumping in! Whilst I said that that I have no connection to "Patten" - what you have revealed is the name "William LYONS". This could be a complete coincidence ... however one of my Aunts also married a William Lyons (obviously many many years later.) Could it be that the Meyer and Lyons family were more connected than I knew? Of course this does not in any way explain the "Patten" reference on the grave. Still - I have never really looked along the Lyons line connected with my family - and perhaps that is another line to follow. Thanks Kerry ... -- Stephen On 8 Dec 2009, at 8:08 PM, Kerry Hall wrote: > Hi Hope you dot mind me jumping in, I found this online > Jane PATTEN d: 1876/2484 Father: William LYONS Mother: Ann DOHARTY > regards > Kerry

Hi there Gay, given the circumstances that may surround Daphne's birth - I agree that what you have said regarding a public grave, and the possibility that the mother Doris gave birth away from scandal in Longreach could be correct. I know that according to Electoral Rolls that Doris did indeed return to Longreach. I will e-mail Toowong Cemetery as you suggest and see what else they can tell me about the grave. However - have a look at my next post - there there may be a tenuous connection to the family. Ta. -- Stephen

Jan, The 1913 Roll shows John, Lime Burner & Sarah Jane, Raymond Terrace, South Brisbane. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com

THanks Jules Perhaps my Aunt got it wrong about the shop... Thanks again Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "julie dern" <julie.dern@bigpond.com> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] 1913 ELECTORAL ROLL look up please TIBBITS > Jan, > > The 1913 Roll shows > John, Lime Burner & Sarah Jane, Raymond Terrace, South Brisbane. > > Cheers, Jules. > Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) > > julie.dern@bigpond.com > http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release Date: 12/09/09 05:54:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release Date: 12/09/09 05:54:00

Hi I am new to this List, I am looking for ancestors of Eric Walter LAWSON born 1915 and Hilda Edna BIRSE nee Lawson. The last known address I have for Eric LAWSON is 1954 Rosemount Terrace Windsor. The last known address for Hilda was before she was married 1954 13 Albert Street Annerly QLD she was living with her parents Henry Walter Lawson and Florence Maud Lawson nee Forder.. This info was kindly given to me by a Melbourne Lister. Regards Shirley Cambridge uk

Could SKS please check the 1913 ELECTORAL ROLL for a John and Sarah TIBBITS possibly South Brisbane... Just been speaking to my Aunt and she was saying that Her Grandparents John and Sarah had a shop in South Brisbane....... she thinks that John and Sarah were the ones who Paid the money for her Father to Buy his Discharge from the British Navy in 1913....... TIA Jan No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release Date: 12/09/09 05:54:00

Hi again, Should have said that I found her death at https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/querySubmit.m?ReportName=DeathSearch and have narrowed it down to 3/10/1876, not sure whether the headstone has been transcribed incorrectly, her death was registered very late or this is not the PATTEN you are after? regards Kerry

Hi Hope you dot mind me jumping in, I found this online Jane PATTEN d: 1876/2484 Father: William LYONS Mother: Ann DOHARTY regards Kerry > HI Stephen > > Doris Augustus MEYER was burried in Toowong Cemetery on 29-8-1955 age 54. > name spelt MEYER Portion 25 Sect 4 Grave 15 C > > Daphne was buried 31-1-1925 name spelt MEYERS buried in Toowong Cemetery > Port. 1 Sect 74 Grave 4 buried with PATTEN buried 9-3-1876 > > Pioneer Index I cant find the Death in 1876 for PATTEN used as surname > of Christian name. > > cheers > Jan >> I am looking for records regarding the birth and probably infant death >> of a Daphne MEYERS (also possibly MEYER). >>

Stephen, > Very interesting information about Daphne being buried with PATTEN - I > will have to chase that up further. I have no Patten's in my database. > > Also of interest is that the burials are in Toowong cemetery as the > family at the time was mostly associated with Longreach. > You may find that Daphne Myers was buried in a Public Grave which is perhaps why there was someone totally unrelated (Patten) already buried there...I have three unrelated persons buried with one of my ancestors in a public grave.. An email to the Toowong Cemetery ( address on the Brisbane City Council Cemetery website http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/BCC:BASE::pc=PC_899 ) quoting the plot number, would clarify that for you easily. otherwise a phone call to them. Perhaps Doris went from Longreach to the City to avoid the gossip likely to have occurred.in a smaller town . The City had facilities to take in pregnant single girls for the term of the pregnancy ..and put the children up for adoption after the birth. Gay.

Tasmanian wills 1824 - 1989 have all been digitised and can be looked up for FREE ! Check out http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=9 Thats a nice Christmas present if you have a Tassie twig in your family tree Bye MargM List Admin

THanks Gay Did that and they have details but said I may not hear from them for a couple of weeks because of the Christmas break... Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gay Fielding" <gayze@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] **SPAM** Re: 1913 Solicitors > Jan, >> ... didn't really realize it was an OLD "matter" that I was talking > > Ring again and ask for the person who is handling Archives... At least you > should be on to the right person who would be able to look for you > . > Gay > > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.97/2550 - Release Date: 12/07/09 17:33:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: 12/08/09 05:34:00

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Jan and Jenelle, thanks so much for the useful information. Shame the birth records don't go that little bit further - but I do have my reasons for thinking it was probably an infant death. Very interesting information about Daphne being buried with PATTEN - I will have to chase that up further. I have no Patten's in my database. Also of interest is that the burials are in Toowong cemetery as the family at the time was mostly associated with Longreach. Again, much thanks. -- Stephen

Jan, > ... didn't really realize it was an OLD "matter" that I was talking Ring again and ask for the person who is handling Archives... At least you should be on to the right person who would be able to look for you . Gay