Many thanks Jim - I have signed up and searched the Trove site. I did turn up a story of his rescue from drowning in the1930s. It is possible that his main cycling achievements happened before he arrived in Australia in 1921 - I will keep hunting though David Sent from my iPad On 3 Sep 2012, at 08:00, [email protected] wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Family Research Queensland (James Crighton) > 2. re the Newmans (mvs) > 3. Re: AUS-QLD Digest, Vol 7, Issue 179 (naylors) > 4. Testing.... (Val Stewart) > 5. Re: Testing.... (Ray Rob) > 6. Re: Testing.... (Val Stewart) > 7. HARRIS / HOLCROFT Family..... (Val Stewart) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 17:57:14 +1000 > From: James Crighton <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Family Research Queensland > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi David, > > If, as you say, Charlie was a cyclist, then maybe a search on the digitised > newspapers site might reveal more - try the trove site at > http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=charlie+newman&l-australian=y > ..............................Jim > > On 1 September 2012 23:58, Pam Dale <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi David >> >> As some listers have found Charlie Newman living in the Goodna area, >> it is highly possible that he worked at the nearby Goodna Mental >> Hospital as a nurse/attendant. Most of it is closed now, so I do not >> know how you would find out more of his employment at the Health >> Department facility.

I would suggest you try the Qld State Archives Meg -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:01:04 -0600 Subject: AUS-QLD Digest, Vol 7, Issue 179 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. re the Newmans (K&GFagg) > 2. Re: Family Research Queensland (Pam Dale) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2012 18:15:34 +1000 > From: K&GFagg <[email protected]> > Subject: [AUS-QLD] re the Newmans > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > His Goodna address would fit with nurse occupation as there was/is? > an > incare hospital there. > glenda > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 23:58:13 +1000 > From: "Pam Dale" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Family Research Queensland > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi David > > As some listers have found Charlie Newman living in the Goodna area, > it is highly possible that he worked at the nearby Goodna Mental > Hospital as a nurse/attendant. Most of it is closed now, so I do not > know how you would find out more of his employment at the Health > Department facility. > > "Turf accountant" sounds like bookmaker to me. > > Regards > Pam in Brisbane Australia > > > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:50:15 +0100 > From: David Evans <[email protected]> > Subject: [AUS-QLD] Family research Queensland > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Hello > > Thank you for your message. My name is DAVID EVANS and I'm located in > Dorchester Dorset UK. > > My background: I was born in Pontypridd South Wales in 1938; my > mother's family were named NEWMAN [who originally came from Somerset] > - my Grandfather was JOHN HENRY. > He, together with his two brothers, ERNEST CHARLES and HERBERT NEWMAN > came to Queensland in the 1920s. ERNEST CHARLES aka 'CHARLIE' settled > in the Brisbane area after the other brothers returned to Wales. > His son WILLIAM NEWMAN [married to ELIZABETH] became a builder and > turf accountant[?] in Brisbane and died in the late 1970s/1980s?. > > It is the history of 'CHARLIE' NEWMAN that I'm researching - I have > no contact with my surviving relatives in Brisbane. Charlie was a > well known cyclist, possibly a professional track cyclist. I believe > that he also worked as a nurse/attendant in psychiatric hospitals in > the Brisbane area. > > Perhaps you can guide me into further online research. I have tried > various lines of enquiry, including cycling archives, with no > tangible results. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the AUS-QLD list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the AUS-QLD mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of AUS-QLD Digest, Vol 7, Issue 179 > ***************************************

Hi David, If, as you say, Charlie was a cyclist, then maybe a search on the digitised newspapers site might reveal more - try the trove site at http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=charlie+newman&l-australian=y ..............................Jim On 1 September 2012 23:58, Pam Dale <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi David > > As some listers have found Charlie Newman living in the Goodna area, > it is highly possible that he worked at the nearby Goodna Mental > Hospital as a nurse/attendant. Most of it is closed now, so I do not > know how you would find out more of his employment at the Health > Department facility. > > "Turf accountant" sounds like bookmaker to me. > > Regards > Pam in Brisbane Australia > > > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:50:15 +0100 > From: David Evans <[email protected]> > Subject: [AUS-QLD] Family research Queensland > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Hello > > Thank you for your message. My name is DAVID EVANS and I'm located in > Dorchester Dorset UK. > > My background: I was born in Pontypridd South Wales in 1938; my > mother's family were named NEWMAN [who originally came from Somerset] > - my Grandfather was JOHN HENRY. > He, together with his two brothers, ERNEST CHARLES and HERBERT NEWMAN > came to Queensland in the 1920s. ERNEST CHARLES aka 'CHARLIE' settled > in the Brisbane area after the other brothers returned to Wales. > His son WILLIAM NEWMAN [married to ELIZABETH] became a builder and > turf accountant[?] in Brisbane and died in the late 1970s/1980s?. > > It is the history of 'CHARLIE' NEWMAN that I'm researching - I have > no contact with my surviving relatives in Brisbane. Charlie was a > well known cyclist, possibly a professional track cyclist. I believe > that he also worked as a nurse/attendant in psychiatric hospitals in > the Brisbane area. > > Perhaps you can guide me into further online research. I have tried > various lines of enquiry, including cycling archives, with no > tangible results. > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List I've sent David Evans a lot of info and photographs of his extended Newman family, off List. cheers Marcelle Western Australia

Hi David As some listers have found Charlie Newman living in the Goodna area, it is highly possible that he worked at the nearby Goodna Mental Hospital as a nurse/attendant. Most of it is closed now, so I do not know how you would find out more of his employment at the Health Department facility. "Turf accountant" sounds like bookmaker to me. Regards Pam in Brisbane Australia Message: 1 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:50:15 +0100 From: David Evans <[email protected]> Subject: [AUS-QLD] Family research Queensland To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello Thank you for your message. My name is DAVID EVANS and I'm located in Dorchester Dorset UK. My background: I was born in Pontypridd South Wales in 1938; my mother's family were named NEWMAN [who originally came from Somerset] - my Grandfather was JOHN HENRY. He, together with his two brothers, ERNEST CHARLES and HERBERT NEWMAN came to Queensland in the 1920s. ERNEST CHARLES aka 'CHARLIE' settled in the Brisbane area after the other brothers returned to Wales. His son WILLIAM NEWMAN [married to ELIZABETH] became a builder and turf accountant[?] in Brisbane and died in the late 1970s/1980s?. It is the history of 'CHARLIE' NEWMAN that I'm researching - I have no contact with my surviving relatives in Brisbane. Charlie was a well known cyclist, possibly a professional track cyclist. I believe that he also worked as a nurse/attendant in psychiatric hospitals in the Brisbane area. Perhaps you can guide me into further online research. I have tried various lines of enquiry, including cycling archives, with no tangible results.

His Goodna address would fit with nurse occupation as there was/is? an incare hospital there. glenda

Hi David Who are the parents of Ernest Charles. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Evans" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 9:50 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Family research Queensland > came to Queensland in the 1920s. ERNEST CHARLES aka 'CHARLIE' settled > ------------------------------- >

Hello David, 1934 and 1949 Queensland Electoral Rolls: Ernest Charles NEWMAN, Attendant, living Dingo Hill, Goodna Elizabeth NEWMAN, home duties, same address 1959 Queensland Electoral Roll: Ernest Charles NEWMAN, (no occupation) living Waterford Road, Goodna Elizabeth NEWMAN, home duties, same address Janet

Hello David, I would strongly advise that you start here: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y These are our digitised newspapers, freely available to all. I just clicked on the Queensland papers, put Charlie Newman in the "phrase" line and got four hits. There were three for Rockhampton, one for Townsville (both towns in northern Queensland) and one in Brisbane. I would certainly try all forms of his name and see what you come up with. I only found one for an Ernest Charles Newman. He was visiting Southport from a little town called Goodna, (now virtually a sattelite suburb of Brisbane) and got into difficulties swimming in the surf and had to be rescued. There were 72 hits for a Charles Newman, starting in 1861 and finishing in 1951. There were 99 for an Ernest Newman, starting in 1895 and finishing in 1952. Do you have his death? You can search the BDM indexes online. You might have to search for the cyling in creative ways if his name doesn't come up immediately. I have noticed in previous research, in some older sporting reports, first names are not always used, Only surnames. Cheers, Wynnette. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Evans" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 9:50 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Family research Queensland > Hello > > Thank you for your message. My name is DAVID EVANS and I'm located in > Dorchester Dorset UK. > > My background: I was born in Pontypridd South Wales in 1938; my > mother's family were named NEWMAN [who originally came from Somerset] > - my Grandfather was JOHN HENRY. > He, together with his two brothers, ERNEST CHARLES and HERBERT NEWMAN > came to Queensland in the 1920s. ERNEST CHARLES aka 'CHARLIE' settled > in the Brisbane area after the other brothers returned to Wales. > His son WILLIAM NEWMAN [married to ELIZABETH] became a builder and > turf accountant[?] in Brisbane and died in the late 1970s/1980s?. > > It is the history of 'CHARLIE' NEWMAN that I'm researching - I have > no contact with my surviving relatives in Brisbane. Charlie was a > well known cyclist, possibly a professional track cyclist. I believe > that he also worked as a nurse/attendant in psychiatric hospitals in > the Brisbane area. > > Perhaps you can guide me into further online research. I have tried > various lines of enquiry, including cycling archives, with no > tangible results. ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5236 - Release Date: 08/30/12

Hello Thank you for your message. My name is DAVID EVANS and I'm located in Dorchester Dorset UK. My background: I was born in Pontypridd South Wales in 1938; my mother's family were named NEWMAN [who originally came from Somerset] - my Grandfather was JOHN HENRY. He, together with his two brothers, ERNEST CHARLES and HERBERT NEWMAN came to Queensland in the 1920s. ERNEST CHARLES aka 'CHARLIE' settled in the Brisbane area after the other brothers returned to Wales. His son WILLIAM NEWMAN [married to ELIZABETH] became a builder and turf accountant[?] in Brisbane and died in the late 1970s/1980s?. It is the history of 'CHARLIE' NEWMAN that I'm researching - I have no contact with my surviving relatives in Brisbane. Charlie was a well known cyclist, possibly a professional track cyclist. I believe that he also worked as a nurse/attendant in psychiatric hospitals in the Brisbane area. Perhaps you can guide me into further online research. I have tried various lines of enquiry, including cycling archives, with no tangible results.

Thank you very much Kerry, a promising lead. All the info we have is by word of mouth handed down and the QLD connection did not turn up anything nor NSW. Many thanks Elly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerry Raymond Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012 5:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Help Please Just to be clear here, was COOK the married name or the maiden name? If it is a married name, do we know anything of the husband's name beyond "COOK" or the place/date of marriage? There is an Alberta Mary Cook who resides in Ballarat VIC from at least 1931 through to at least 1980. In 1931 she is living with a Leslie George COOK, possibly her husband. In later years other COOKs turn up in the household, possibly children? Kerry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ellen Hollow Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-QLD] Help Please I am trying to follow the life of Mary Alberta Cook aka May Cook Born WA 1903 Mother Violet Knight Father John King who also went by the name John Kelly which he used as a circus performer with Wirth's circus and later Silvers Circus. His death is also registered as John Kelly The family moved to NSW about 1908 after John resigned from the WA Police force. The children were Violenta ,Mary Alberta, Margaret Junita and Elsie Maude. We believe May/ Mary and a sister (Violenta) lived together in Bankstown NSW in about 1920 . It is possible she moved to Queensland about 1935. She was said to have 14 children if I can locate her death I will be able to trace her children. We have lost trace of Violenta at Bankstown about 1920. Margaret Junita married William Watson and moved to WA where she died in 1984. Ethel Maude worked as a ships stewardess up until 1948. Her documentation is in her maiden name Elsie King. Thank you Elly Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers Ancestry.com.au have changed a lot of their indexes to FREE For example all the Aust Immigration and travel ones are now free plus quite a few others. Be worth checking if you aren't a subscriber. bye MargM List Admin

Just to be clear here, was COOK the married name or the maiden name? If it is a married name, do we know anything of the husband's name beyond "COOK" or the place/date of marriage? There is an Alberta Mary Cook who resides in Ballarat VIC from at least 1931 through to at least 1980. In 1931 she is living with a Leslie George COOK, possibly her husband. In later years other COOKs turn up in the household, possibly children? Kerry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ellen Hollow Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-QLD] Help Please I am trying to follow the life of Mary Alberta Cook aka May Cook Born WA 1903 Mother Violet Knight Father John King who also went by the name John Kelly which he used as a circus performer with Wirth's circus and later Silvers Circus. His death is also registered as John Kelly The family moved to NSW about 1908 after John resigned from the WA Police force. The children were Violenta ,Mary Alberta, Margaret Junita and Elsie Maude. We believe May/ Mary and a sister (Violenta) lived together in Bankstown NSW in about 1920 . It is possible she moved to Queensland about 1935. She was said to have 14 children if I can locate her death I will be able to trace her children. We have lost trace of Violenta at Bankstown about 1920. Margaret Junita married William Watson and moved to WA where she died in 1984. Ethel Maude worked as a ships stewardess up until 1948. Her documentation is in her maiden name Elsie King. Thank you Elly Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am trying to follow the life of Mary Alberta Cook aka May Cook Born WA 1903 Mother Violet Knight Father John King who also went by the name John Kelly which he used as a circus performer with Wirth's circus and later Silvers Circus. His death is also registered as John Kelly The family moved to NSW about 1908 after John resigned from the WA Police force. The children were Violenta ,Mary Alberta, Margaret Junita and Elsie Maude. We believe May/ Mary and a sister (Violenta) lived together in Bankstown NSW in about 1920 . It is possible she moved to Queensland about 1935. She was said to have 14 children if I can locate her death I will be able to trace her children. We have lost trace of Violenta at Bankstown about 1920. Margaret Junita married William Watson and moved to WA where she died in 1984. Ethel Maude worked as a ships stewardess up until 1948. Her documentation is in her maiden name Elsie King. Thank you Elly

Thanks everyone for the links and information on the Stobo girls. I thought they may have been cremated as quite a few others in the extended family were. Quite a few doctors in the family too. I also found that Joyce was in Kingaroy also in 1925, relieving for Dr Ellen Kent-Hughes. I had a feeling they would have known her and why they came up here. Dr Kent-Hughes was also a member of the Kingaroy Shire Council at that time. She has had the new forecourt named in her honour. Sandra

Well, this couple certainly move around. I found them in the electoral rolls in Fremantle WA 1931, Sydney NSW 1933, Thursday Island QLD 1936, Brisbane QLD 1937 1943, Canberra ACT 1949, and then back to Brisbane 1954 onwards. Mollie last appears in the 1963 electoral roll and Donald in 1977 (consistent with him dying in 1979 as you stated). To find out where they were buried/cremated, I suggest you check the Brisbane City Council online burials (it's not working at the moment or I would have checked myself) and then, if they were Catholic, the Nudgee cemetery (also online). If they don't turn up in these, then they were most likely cremated. If Mollie died in the mid 1960s, there was only one crematorium then -- Mt Thompson (no online records so you have to ask them and hope they are helpful) http://www.mtthompsoncrem.com.au/driver.asp?page=mountthompson/contact+us When Donald died in the 1970s, there would also have been the Albany Creek Crematorium to consider http://www.albanycreekcrem.com.au/driver.asp?page=/contact+us but if Mollie was cremated at Mt Thompson then most likely so was Donald. Kerry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Val Date Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2012 6:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-QLD] REES FAMILY, THURSDAY ISLAND Can SKS pls help with death/burial details for Mollie Ida DOWLING and her husband Donald Augustus DOWLINGM he died in 1979 but I don't know where. I do know that at one time they lived at Thursday Island. Regards, Val DATE Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can SKS pls help with death/burial details for Mollie Ida DOWLING and her husband Donald Augustus DOWLINGM he died in 1979 but I don't know where. I do know that at one time they lived at Thursday Island. Regards, Val DATE

There is photo of her http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/36908648 There is a prize in her honour: http://www.som.uq.edu.au/current-students/prizes-scholarships/mbbs-year-2.as px

STOBO, Jean Seldon, M.A.. M.B., Ch.M.. of Markwell Street, Kingaroy, at a private hospital, Brisbane, on June 4th, 1953, eldest Daughter of late Mr. and Mrs. A. D. Stobo, of Pymble. N.S.W.. Sister of Mary and Malcolm Stobo, and the late Dr. Joyce Stobo. Privately Cremated. JOHN HISLOP & SONS, Funeral Directors. ...[Brisbane Courier-Mail dated Saturday, 6th June, 1953] Cheers Janet

STOBO.— The Funeral of the late Dr Joyce Seldon Stobo, of 480 Vulture Street, East Brisbane, will leave St. Andrew's Church of Englnnd, Vulture Street. South Brisbane. This (Tuesday) Afternoon, on conclusion of Service, commencing at 2.30 o'clock, for the Mt. Thompson Crematorium. ...[Brisbane Courier Mail dated Tuesday, 21 October, 1952] Janet