Hi Janet Thanks for your reply. Have had a look at the rolls but seem to have missed the 1922 ones. He is at Bell's Hotel in 1919 and 1925 and then at Cunnamulla Road until 1943 and he died just after that. He was gassed in World War 1. Annie was a diabetic and died in 1925 aged 27. No children. Some of the Kellys have tragic stories. Annie was not as bad as her first cousin who died on her honeymoon (TB). Hugh Robinson FAGAN was John's brother which I did not know until I did some research on him today. Yeah, I agree, only the certificate will tell me where they were married and I'm not prepared to do that just for that bit of info. Perhaps they should privatise the Qld BDMs and then they might just charge us a small fee if we just want a bit of info but not the whole certificate. Cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: Janet Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 3:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Anyone researching FAGAN? Hello Ian, 1922 Queensland Electoral Roll: John Valentine FAGAN, labourer, Bell's Hotel, Charleville Hugh Robinson FAGAN, shearer, Bell's Hotel, Charleville Annie FAGAN, home duties, Alfred Street, Charleville Hope the above is of some help - should imagine they were married at Charleville, but only the certificate will tell you that. Cheers Janet

Hi Jenelle Thanks for your reply. I am writing a book on my Kellys and working my way down the line and just got to Annie and John Fagan. Had a bit of a look at Trove a fair while back but must do that again. Cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: Jenelle McCarrick Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 2:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Anyone researching FAGAN? Ian, short of buying the certificate (my Kelly are from Charleville/Blackall) have you tried the trove site for anything in the paper.Charleville lost a few records in their floods, most got sent to Brisbane. Jenelle.

Hello Ian, 1922 Queensland Electoral Roll: John Valentine FAGAN, labourer, Bell's Hotel, Charleville Hugh Robinson FAGAN, shearer, Bell's Hotel, Charleville Annie FAGAN, home duties, Alfred Street, Charleville Hope the above is of some help - should imagine they were married at Charleville, but only the certificate will tell you that. Cheers Janet

Ian, short of buying the certificate (my Kelly are from Charleville/Blackall) have you tried the trove site for anything in the paper.Charleville lost a few records in their floods, most got sent to Brisbane. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian and Margaret Kelly Sent: Monday, 1 October 2012 1:57 PM To: AUS-QLD-WESTERN; AUS-QLD Subject: [AUS-QLD] Anyone researching FAGAN? Hi One of my relatives, Annie Kelly (b. Charleville 9/10/1897) married John Valentine FAGAN on 1/2/1922. He was born in 1885 in NSW (birth registered East Macquarie in the Bathurst area). I am trying to find out their place of marriage and have been told it may have been Toowoomba or Charleville. I have found him on the electoral roll on Ancestry and seen his army record in World War 1. Cheers Ian Kelly Sandstone Point Queensland Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AU[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi One of my relatives, Annie Kelly (b. Charleville 9/10/1897) married John Valentine FAGAN on 1/2/1922. He was born in 1885 in NSW (birth registered East Macquarie in the Bathurst area). I am trying to find out their place of marriage and have been told it may have been Toowoomba or Charleville. I have found him on the electoral roll on Ancestry and seen his army record in World War 1. Cheers Ian Kelly Sandstone Point Queensland

For those who are interested in the blog and the posts that I place on it from time to time, you canenter your email address in the box provided on the right hand side of the blog and click the submit button and every time I make a new post or someone else makes a comment on a post (and everyone is encouraged to make comments) you will receive an email about the update. As for the post about Golden Gate, there will be more posts in the near future with more names and not just from the school. Time, there is never enough of it. Greg On 29/09/2012 4:20 PM, Greg wrote: > I have recently posted a list of school pupils (1896 - 1903) at this > very important school in the Queensland education system on my blog

Dear Greg, Thank you for posting the list of pupils at the Golden Gate school near Croydon. I have a friend whose grandmother taught at a school at or near Croydon in the early 1900s would you have any names of teachers for this period or stories of how they lived during that time. Regards Irene Irene Schaffer Hobart -------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:20 PM To: "AUS-Qld" <[email protected]> Subject: [AUS-QLD] Golden Gate School > I have recently posted a list of school pupils (1896 - 1903) at this > very important school in the Queensland education system on my blog > <http://davisgenealogyproject.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/golden-gate-school.html>. > Golden Gate was a large mining town near Croydon in North Queensland. It > must have been large, because they boasted that they had sixteen hotels > in the town at one time. > Greg

I have recently posted a list of school pupils (1896 - 1903) at this very important school in the Queensland education system on my blog <http://davisgenealogyproject.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/golden-gate-school.html>. Golden Gate was a large mining town near Croydon in North Queensland. It must have been large, because they boasted that they had sixteen hotels in the town at one time. Greg

Hi Thanks for to those who replied. Looks like I am going to need more information on him to conduct a successful search. All I had on person was his birth certificate, and what people had said about him. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Mahoney" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:58 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Queensland War Records > Hi > > Where would I find records of those who served in the first world war. > > I am looking for one Michael MAHONEY, probably from Rockhampton, whom some > one suggested recently that he could have served in the war, and was > killed > in action 1914, aged 25. > > Thanks > > > > > ================= > Visit my website at: > http://www.chrismahoney.co.nz/ > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Have you tried the Red Cross and Missing in action files that are on line. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Mahoney Sent: Friday, 28 September 2012 9:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Queensland War Records Hi Thanks for to those who replied. Looks like I am going to need more information on him to conduct a successful search. All I had on person was his birth certificate, and what people had said about him. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Mahoney" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:58 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Queensland War Records > Hi > > Where would I find records of those who served in the first world war. > > I am looking for one Michael MAHONEY, probably from Rockhampton, whom some > one suggested recently that he could have served in the war, and was > killed > in action 1914, aged 25. > > Thanks > > > > > ================= > Visit my website at: > http://www.chrismahoney.co.nz/ > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Australian War Memorial - www.awm.gov.au - has a nominal roll of (nearly all) enlistments in WW1. This roll also gives the dates of Return to Australia, Killed in Action, Died of Wounds, or Died of Disease. The individual files have been digitised by the National Archives and are available for viewing on www.naa.gov.au. I think, though, that you may need to revise the year of death. The first Australian battle fatality was in 1914, but he was a sailor. The AIF was not engaged in battle until 1915 at Gallipoli and 1916 in France. But there were also deaths due to accident or illness prior to engagement. Family memories/beliefs can let us down sometimes. For years one of mine was believed to have died in battle in France and was buried there. Turns out he was wounded in France, September, 1918, transported to England where he died of TB on Christmas Day, 1918. So very, very sad. A couple of other things you might consider. Around that time there were many ships on the coastal and island routes and it was a common method of transport. Michael Mahony may have left Rockhampton for somewhere else to say goodbye to loved ones and enlisted there. He may have enlisted in British forces, possibly in New Guinea, so if you can't track him down in the AIF, try that avenue. Could he have used another forename (do you have his birth registration?) or surname? A lot of Irish families, particularly Catholic families, were opposed to their sons fighting England's wars , understandable given prior history. If he did, you will need a lot of luck to find him. I have a rellie who took the opportunity to do a runner from his wife by changing his name at enlistment. Luckily for me, he reverted to his correct name after the death of his wife, admitted what he had done, and requested that his pension be paid in his right name. Otherwise, I would never have found him. The army didn't seem to mind what information was given at enlistment. And don't forget there are different ways of spelling Mahoney. The site that Lorrae gave you - http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/search - can be searched by town only. A search using only Rockhampton brings up a James Mahoney, but he enlisted 1916, aged 43. You can also enter Michael and Rockhampton and bring up every Michael who enlisted and check them out. Could be handy if you're not sure what to do on you next holidays. There was a Michael Alepius Mahoney, aged 28, who enlisted at Victoria Barracks, Melbourne (or should that be Sydney? - he embarked from Sydney), NOK J T Mahoney, Clifton Hill, Victoria, on the ADFA site. He enlisted on 18 August, 1914 and embarked on 19 October, 1914. There's a NAA file for him, but it's spelt MAHONY. I couldn't open the digital copy, but hope you can. Good luck with your search, Barbara

Hi Chris Have you also tried: http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/search Or the National Archives of Australia: http://naa12.naa.gov.au/Login.htm Login as a guest. If he died in battle during WWI, his death may have been recorded in 1922, along with the other fallen servicemen. I did not locate him at all, but I may not have sufficient information. Lorrae J Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://www.lorrae.net/ -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mahoney [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2012 12:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-QLD] Queensland War Records Hi Where would I find records of those who served in the first world war. I am looking for one Michael MAHONEY, probably from Rockhampton, whom some one suggested recently that he could have served in the war, and was killed in action 1914, aged 25. Thanks __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7520 (20120926) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Hi Where would I find records of those who served in the first world war. I am looking for one Michael MAHONEY, probably from Rockhampton, whom some one suggested recently that he could have served in the war, and was killed in action 1914, aged 25. Thanks ================= Visit my website at: http://www.chrismahoney.co.nz/

Chris, The Australian War Memorial at www.awm.gov.au National archives of Australia at www.naa.gov.au The newspapers lists casualities at www.nla.gov.au Commonwealth War Graves Commission Also the site grave secrets they have War Information on each state and some small bios on servicemen. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Mahoney Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2012 12:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-QLD] Queensland War Records Hi Where would I find records of those who served in the first world war. I am looking for one Michael MAHONEY, probably from Rockhampton, whom some one suggested recently that he could have served in the war, and was killed in action 1914, aged 25. Thanks ================= Visit my website at: http://www.chrismahoney.co.nz/ Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris is this the one Regards Colin Roll of Honour - Michael John Mahoney Service number: 13 Rank: Lance Corporal Unit: 3rd Australian Battalion Imperial Camel Corps Service: Australian Army Conflict: 1914-1918 Date of death: 19 April 1917 Place of death: Israel Cemetery or memorial details: Jerusalem Memorial, Israel Source: AWM145 Roll of Honour cards, 1914-1918 War, Army -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Mahoney Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2012 12:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-QLD] Queensland War Records Hi Where would I find records of those who served in the first world war. I am looking for one Michael MAHONEY, probably from Rockhampton, whom some one suggested recently that he could have served in the war, and was killed in action 1914, aged 25. Thanks ================= Visit my website at: http://www.chrismahoney.co.nz/ Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lorrae I have applied to Brisbane Council for any information re the grave, as to who may have purchased it etc. I have tried Trove but nothing shown there....it's one of my favourite checking sites:-} Thank you for your interest and thoughts. I'll keep searching. Joan ******************************* Hi Joan You did not say how old your uncle was. Age 67 years? Thus born 1882? Indeed old enough to be the father, and a good friend? Consider that Wilford J O'SULLIVAN died 1904, and your g uncle in 1949 - 45 years later - did they reuse the graves? Did you uncle pay for the grave, thus his grave too? More Council records would be needed to check these too. Have you tried the Newspaper online? trove.nla.gov.au/ Lorrae J Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://www.lorrae.net/

Hi Joan You did not say how old your uncle was. Age 67 years? Thus born 1882? Indeed old enough to be the father, and a good friend? Consider that Wilford J O'SULLIVAN died 1904, and your g uncle in 1949 - 45 years later - did they reuse the graves? Did you uncle pay for the grave, thus his grave too? More Council records would be needed to check these too. Have you tried the Newspaper online? trove.nla.gov.au/ Lorrae J Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://www.lorrae.net/ -----Original Message----- From: Greg [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2012 2:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Baby Wilford Joseph O'Sullivan Wilford Joseph O'SULLIVAN died 25/11/1904 1904/001439 no father and mother Isabella O'SULLIVAN, it was a country registration, not Brisbane Greg DAVIS On 23/09/2012 1:54 PM, Joan Birtles wrote: > Good afternoon listers > > I am after help please in finding any information on a 3 mth old baby > named Wilford Joseph O'Sullivan who is in the same grave as my g uncle > Alexander Stuart. > > Alexander Stuart was buried Lutwyche Cemetery 17 Aug 1949. He had died 12 > Aug 1949. > Can anyone help me as to when the baby died and who he may have been. > I've not been able to find a marriage for Alexander Stuart and family > stories were that Alexander never married. > > Thank you > > Joan __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7508 (20120923) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Hi Kerry Thanks for your thoughts - I will contact council just to see if they have further info on the burials. Joan Wilford Joseph O'SULLIVAN died 25/11/1904 1904/001439 no father and mother Isabella O'SULLIVAN, it was a country registration, not Brisbane Greg DAVIS We are discussing burials over 40 years apart and the baby was buried first. If the baby's burial was in a private grave, then it suggests some connection with the man, as the burial rights holder would have had to give permission. That would suggest some relationship but it could just be friendship. If the baby's burial was in a public grave, then it's probably just being re-used and there's probably no connection. Also, the database you found the information could have had a data entry error. They might not have been buried in the same grave. I'd be tempted to ask the council if a check could be made on the original burial registers for the two of them. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jenelle McCarrick Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2012 4:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Baby Wilford Joseph O'Sullivan Actually makes me think Joan what happened to (2) babies (oonly one father was named for the first) who died to Emma Gobell... Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joan Birtles Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2012 4:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Baby Wilford Joseph O'Sullivan No, I haven't applied for that as was more interested in Alexander Stuart and just wondered about any connection to the baby....but both you and Greg have given me something to ponder on. Thank you Joan Quite possibly, if a single mother or a sickly baby in the hospital, mother with post partam depression.. Do you have the death certificate. Jenelle. Many thanks Jenelle for your interest and comment. Even if the baby was 3 mths old could this still occur? Joan Joan sometimes the still born babies were put in graves that were opened at the time, at the foot of perhaps a woman who died in child birth, I have found an entry for one of my uncle's wee babes in a grave with a lot of still-born babies, (common grave).. Jenelle. Many thanks Greg, I wonder if Alexander was the father?? Kind regards Joan in NSW Wilford Joseph O'SULLIVAN died 25/11/1904 1904/001439 no father and mother Isabella O'SULLIVAN, it was a country registration, not Brisbane Greg DAVIS We are discussing burials over 40 years apart and the baby was buried first. If the baby's burial was in a private grave, then it suggests some connection with the man, as the burial rights holder would have had to give permission. That would suggest some relationship but it could just be friendship. If the baby's burial was in a public grave, then it's probably just being re-used and there's probably no connection. Also, the database you found the information could have had a data entry error. They might not have been buried in the same grave. I'd be tempted to ask the council if a check could be made on the original burial registers for the two of them.

Also good fun meeting people in person to chat about their old times and rellos. Joan No they don't...but thank goodness I have an elderly Great Aunt who is to the point..(get over it, saves lots of years and hours looking for stuff not there)...remember someone always knows something...stop texting and tweeting and social stuff, go visit someone..you never know what you learn froma rellie or a neighbour.. Jenelle.