Hi Marg Lena Seeman is buried in the North Rockhampton Cemetery. Her husband is buried in the South Rockhampton Cemetery. Ian -----Original Message----- From: Otto Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 6:16 PM To: aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com ; AUS-QLD ; AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Lena Seeman, Northgate Brisbane. If I recall, the Council at Redcliffe changed ours. Is it possible for you to view the papers at the crematorium. That should give an address. Cheers, Marg Otto

Oh no! I was told that my rellie Kathleen Gordon went to work for Lena Seeman in 1948 or 1949. I notice an ad in the Courier Mail in July and also August of 1948 "Wanted light general, sleep in. Apply Mrs Seeman, 12 Peary Street, Northgate or L2709 factory ext". I wonder what a "light general" is. Perhaps a housekeeper? Maybe did general duties in the house? Cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: Kerry Young Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 3:41 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Lena Seeman, Northgate Brisbane. Hi Ian Just to complicate matters there are a couple of ads in the Courier Mail 15th October 1947 that has W. H. Seeman at 10 Peary St., Northgate. Regards Kerry (Young)

... and isn't it that called the thrill of the chase. LOL Emm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Young" <kayoung@bigpond.com> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Lena Seeman, Northgate Brisbane. > Hi Ian > > Just to complicate matters there are a couple of ads in the Courier Mail > 15th October 1947 that has W. H. Seeman at 10 Peary St., Northgate. > > Regards > > Kerry (Young) > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Ian, If you Google the address, e.g. 12 Peary Street, up comes the map with a photo to the left, then you can click and see street views, and it shows you other houses nearby. Cheers, Jill

Sure can, Jill. Very kind of you. Cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: Jill Glover Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 3:36 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Lena Seeman, Northgate Brisbane. Ian, I can check the house numbers out in the next couple of days if you can wait that long... Cheers, Jill Brisbane

Hi Ian Just to complicate matters there are a couple of ads in the Courier Mail 15th October 1947 that has W. H. Seeman at 10 Peary St., Northgate. Regards Kerry (Young) --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Ian, Brisbane has lots of houses on 'double blocks', especially in areas like Northgate, so there might only be a few houses between 20 numbers, my street goes from 67-79 and there are only about 7 houses. Jill

Ian, I can check the house numbers out in the next couple of days if you can wait that long... Cheers, Jill Brisbane

Thanks Marg. I had thought of the possibility of a number change which would explain it. Perhaps I should check on that. I wonder where I would find that out. The council perhaps? Cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: Otto Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 9:16 AM To: aus-qld-brisbane@rootsweb.com ; AUS-QLD ; AUS-QLD-BRISBANE Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD-BRISBANE] Lena Seeman, Northgate Brisbane. Hello, I had a look at 12 and 20 Peary Street on maps.google. Do you think that maybe number 20 was renumbered as 12 at some point? I know that in 1959, we lived over at Clontarf at a house which was number 44 Cornelius Street. That was the lot number apparently and when numbering was sorted out which was a couple of years later, our number 44 became number 30. Just a thought. Marg Otto

Dear Listers The news of Leslie Uebels terminal illness filtered out yesterday. Feel so sad that such should happen to her or any one come to that. Her web site has been archived See : The "Claim a Convict" site is not on Pandora but has been archived by the Wayback Machine. The latest is at: http://web.archive.org/web/20131012112705/http://www.claimaconvict.net/ ( thanks to Ian for this info) Someone with a deep interest in the early history of the Colony of NSW and convicts in particular is needed Contact Colin Kennedy ckennedy@bigpond.net.au if you're interested Bye MargM List Admin

Hi Jan Yes I do have most of what you have found but appreciate your interest and am glad that I helped fill in your afternoon. There are so many folks on these lists who try to help and come up with some good suggestions. I also wondered if there was some connection between the Seemans and Kathleen Gordon before she went to work for Lena Seeman. By the way, some of the same family of Seeman used double "n" and some used single "n" and this can be found between siblings even. I was told by a member of the Gordon family in Charleville that Kathleen had an argument with her mother and left Charleville and never returned. The same person also told me that Lena had some sort of an emotional "hold" over Kathleen. Or Kathleen was "infatuated" with Lena, or something. As you know I am not really researching the Seemans. I am only interested in the connection with Kathleen Lillian Gordon as she is my rellie. I am not too interested in going back too far on the Gordons either. I am mainly researching my Kelly line. Kathleen's mother was Sarah Gordon (nee Kelly) who married Alexander Gordon. I have managed to find a couple of the Seemans and one told me that Colin Vivian Seeman did not own the furniture factory – his father did. Colin was just a "hanger on". He said Colin worked at the railway workshops at Banyo or Northgate where they made signalling equipment. Bye the way, did you see the article on Trove where a young lad working at the furniture factory got his clothes caught on fire and another guy threw water over him from a drum? Only trouble it was not water but was caustic soda. He died in agony in hospital a week or so later. Lena and her husband William Henry Seeman are both buried in Rockhampton and he was once a small time grazier at Duaringa, a Seeman rellie told me. What puzzles me is Kathleen Gordon is on the the electoral roll from 1954 to 1984 at 20 Peary Street and never on the roll at 12 Peary Street, the house owned by Lena. But the Seeman rellie tells me that Kathleen would not have lived at 20 but always lived at 12 with Lena and her son Colin. These two house are only a couple of houses apart in Peary St. Perhaps the 20 is a mistake on the roll and should be 12. Another thing – Colin is on the roll at 12 Peary St until 1968 (mother Lena died in 1965). Then in 1972 and 1977 he is on the roll at 20 Peary St. He died in 1978. I wonder if 20 Peary St was a boarding house? As I have previously mentioned, the Seeman rellie told me that Kathleen never lived at 20 Peary St but always lived at 12 with Lena and Colin. Thanks once again for your help. If you think of any more suggestions then I would be glad to hear them. There is a niece of Kathleen living in Brisbane but she is not too co-operative. Perhaps there is a skeleton in the cupboard there somewhere. Cheers Ian

Hi Janet I found those two messages a fair while back and replied to them. Thanks for that, Janet. Cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: Janet Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 6:13 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Lena Seeman, Northgate Brisbane. Hello Ian Put "Kathleen Lillian Gordon" into Google and you should find 2 messages about this family dated 3 years ago, so you could try replying to their post. Happy hunting Janet

You may have all the following info...............but I was at a loose end this afternoon and decided to do a couple of look ups as I have GORDON and Mc FADYEN in my tree... hoping to find a connection....but sadly I did not...... I know your are not researching the SEEMAN name but I thought I would send what I found ...just in case... I was hoping that I could connect the SEEMAN or McFADYEN Families to the GORDON's and maybe to mine....If the SEEMAN and McFADYEN do connect to the GORDONs may explain why Kathleen was living with them as a Housekeeper... 1949 ELECTORAL ROLL Colin Vivian SEEMAN House Furnisher Lena SEEMAN Home duties William Henry SEEMAN Railway employee were living in 12 Peary St. Northgate in 1949 NO one Else at the address in 1949 1949 Kathleen Lilian GORDON King St. Charleville Home duties Alexander GORDON King St. Charleville Labourer Peter Roderick GORDON King St. Charleville no occlupation listed Sarah GORDON King St. Charliville Home duties... Peter Roderick GORDON died in 1970 son of Murdock GORDON and Catherine MacGREGOR (born ...9 May 1861 Perthsire Scotland_) several articles on Trove about William Henry SEEMAN 1950 Colin Vivian SEEMAN Furniture Manufacturer was bankrupt...traded as SEEMAN BROTHERS..... Colin Vivian SEEMAN died in 1978 age 63 buried 18-7-1978 in Pinaroo Cemetery Port 7 grave 956 Harold Norman SEEMAN died in 1925 son of William Henry SEEMAN and Lena McFADYEN There a tree on Footprints (Mundia) belonging to a Dave Brown that has a William Henry SEEMAN born 1890 in Dauringa Qld. dying 1957 .. but I cant find a death listed on the index in Qld in 1957 it is the same family see below Mother Rose Ann MORGAN 1867-1961 Father William Herman SEEMAN 1865-1936 Brother John Joseph SEEMAN 1903 - 1986 Sister....Theresa SEEMAN...1892-1982 Brother Oliver SEEMAN 1894-1965 Sister Emily Ethel SEEMAN 1896-1962 Wife Lena Mc FADYEN Son Olicer Percival SEEMAN 1913-1967 Daughter Marie SEEMAN 1916-1917 Son William Henry SEEMAN 1919-1991 Son Norman Harold SEEMan 1921-1925 plus one other living member of the family.. Another child Florence Marion SEEMANN died 1918 Another Tree has Lena SEEMAN born 6 March 1895 Qld Father Alexander McFADYEN born 24 may 1864 Rockhampton Qld. Mother Sarah Mary KEAN born 26 dec 1866 Toxtech Park Derbyshire Eng. Lena died 12 mar 1865 but not on index... Cant find any more info on Kathleen Lilian GORDON.... I have now found the deaths of William Henry and Lena SEEMAN it is under the name SEEMANN All the above may not be of interest but it helped fill in a bit of time for me.. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian & Margaret" <imkelly21@bigpond.com> To: "AUS-QLD" <AUS-QLD@rootsweb.com>; "AUS-QLD-BRISBANE" <AUS-QLD-BRISBANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 3:47 PM Subject: [AUS-QLD] Lena Seeman, Northgate Brisbane. > Hi > > Does anyone have Lena Seeman (nee McFadyen) in their family tree. She is > not a relative of mine but I am trying to find information on a Kathleen > Lillian Gordon for a book I am writing on my family history. > > Kathleen was born in Charleville in 1925 and worked as a live-in > housekeeper for Lena at Lena’s residence at 12 Peary Street in Northgate > from about 1948 until Lena’s death in 1965. > > I have found Kathleen on the electoral roll at 20 Peary Street, Northgate, > from 1954 until 1984. I cannot understand her living at 20 Peary Street > as descendants of Lena say she lived at Lena’s residence at 12 Peary > Street for many years. > > One of Lena’s sons, Colin Vivian Seeman, also lived with Lena and Kathleen > at 12 Peary Street and, after Lena died in 1965, Colin and Kathleen > continued to live there. I don’t know if Colin and Kathleen were in a > relationship. > > Colin died in 1978. Kathleen died in 1997 and was cremated at Albany > Creek, Brisbane. As she never married and had no descendants, it is > difficult to get information on her. > > Other members of the Seeman family suggest that Lena may have willed her > home to Colin when she died and I am wondering if Colin left it to > Kathleen when he died. > > I presume I would have to go to the State Archives to search for wills of > these three people. I have just emailed the State Library and asked them > to check for funeral notices in The Courier Mail for the three. > > Thank you > Ian Kelly > Sandstone Point Qld. > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6957 - Release Date: 12/28/13 >

Hello Ian Put "Kathleen Lillian Gordon" into Google and you should find 2 messages about this family dated 3 years ago, so you could try replying to their post. Happy hunting Janet

Hi Does anyone have Lena Seeman (nee McFadyen) in their family tree. She is not a relative of mine but I am trying to find information on a Kathleen Lillian Gordon for a book I am writing on my family history. Kathleen was born in Charleville in 1925 and worked as a live-in housekeeper for Lena at Lena’s residence at 12 Peary Street in Northgate from about 1948 until Lena’s death in 1965. I have found Kathleen on the electoral roll at 20 Peary Street, Northgate, from 1954 until 1984. I cannot understand her living at 20 Peary Street as descendants of Lena say she lived at Lena’s residence at 12 Peary Street for many years. One of Lena’s sons, Colin Vivian Seeman, also lived with Lena and Kathleen at 12 Peary Street and, after Lena died in 1965, Colin and Kathleen continued to live there. I don’t know if Colin and Kathleen were in a relationship. Colin died in 1978. Kathleen died in 1997 and was cremated at Albany Creek, Brisbane. As she never married and had no descendants, it is difficult to get information on her. Other members of the Seeman family suggest that Lena may have willed her home to Colin when she died and I am wondering if Colin left it to Kathleen when he died. I presume I would have to go to the State Archives to search for wills of these three people. I have just emailed the State Library and asked them to check for funeral notices in The Courier Mail for the three. Thank you Ian Kelly Sandstone Point Qld.

Pat it just opened for me twice However when you open the site it will not let you search http://www.nudgeecemetery.com.au <http://www.nudgeecemetery.com.au/> Colin >> Happy New Year to all listers >> >> I used to be able to access burial records of Nudgee Cemetery but have been unable to these past few days. Does anyone know if access has changed or if they are on another site. >> >> Regards >> Pam in Brisbane >> Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toAUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

Pat it just opened for me twice http://www.nudgeecemetery.com.au <http://www.nudgeecemetery.com.au/> Colin > Happy New Year to all listers > > I used to be able to access burial records of Nudgee Cemetery but have been unable to these past few days. Does anyone know if access has changed or if they are on another site. > > Regards > Pam in Brisbane > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Happy New Year to all listers I used to be able to access burial records of Nudgee Cemetery but have been unable to these past few days. Does anyone know if access has changed or if they are on another site. Regards Pam in Brisbane

Dear Listers Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and Happy Hunting in 2014 This is last years site but still worth a smile at the impossibility , certainly where I live where it was 38c yesterday http://www.pusher.com.au/clients/pusher-christmas-2012 Bye MargM List Admin

No worrys Bev if you cant acces the net just let me know what you want to look up and I will try with my resources.. may be just email me direct I think my email will come up on your screen.. Jan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] George William SEARLE and Annie Mary SCHULTZ > Thank you so much for all that Jan, this will keep me busy over the > holidays. > Bev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "doug&jan" <jst88221@bigpond.net.au> > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:01 AM > To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] George William SEARLE and Annie Mary SCHULTZ > >> Hi Bev >> Marriage is registered as William George and >> Births of the Children have the Father as William George with Mother >> Annie > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6938 - Release Date: 12/20/13 >