Hi Would someone who has access to the Queensland births on CD or Microfiche have a look for a record please? I have been trying for ages to find the birth on the online index of Edward Robert KEENE who was born in Qld on 4/4/1900 but have been unsuccessful. Yesterday I decided to just enter the exact date of birth (which I have never done before) and do a search. I soon found out you have to also enter one name so put in his first given name of Edward and up came the record. On the birth index his name is Edward Robert James HEINSKEENE. I have known for a while that Edward’s father is Charles Hines KEENE. The name Hines is an old family name from way back and is also used as a given name. I now know why I could never find the birth of Edward Robert KEENE. Is this a mistake on the online birth index or is it also the same on his original record in the birth register? I would like to check the birth on the CD/Microfiche to see what his surname is there. Thank you Ian Kelly Sandstone Point Queensland

Could SKS with access to later electoral rolls please look up Annie KENNETT in 1949 she was living alone at Exhibition Street Pomona , Widgee Annie died in 1984 would like to find out if she moved and who she was living with between 1949 and 1984 TIA Jan

Thanks for that info, Marg Ian -----Original Message----- From: MargM Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:12 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] George Pitchford THOMPSON & Elizabeth Jane PAYNTER-RUSHEN ? Hi Ian RUSHEN isnt a common surname ? Only 14 in current on line Whitepages Its the surname of quite a prominent VIC historian........... Bye MargM Qld List Admin

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian & Margaret" <imkelly21@bigpond.com> To: "Janet" <jmartin17@gmail.com>; <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] George Pitchford THOMPSON & Elizabeth Jane PAYNTER > Thanks Janet. Perhaps he was chasing the gold. His great > grandson said he > is buried in Roma in grave 2680, row 48 and his wife and > daughter, Annie > Louise RUSHEN, is also buried in the same row. Hi Ian RUSHEN isnt a common surname ? Only 14 in current on line Whitepages Its the surname of quite a prominent VIC historian........... Bye MargM Qld List Admin

Thanks Janet. Perhaps he was chasing the gold. His great grandson said he is buried in Roma in grave 2680, row 48 and his wife and daughter, Annie Louise RUSHEN, is also buried in the same row. Cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: Janet Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 5:40 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] George Pitchford THOMPSON & Elizabeth Jane PAYNTER Wow, what a story... George Pitchford THOMPSON married 1st August 1893/000228 to Lizzie PAYNTER. I would think they were in Eidsvold looking for gold... because my rellies were there, at that time, for that reason. Most of the Burial Index records are only taken from headstones - so if he did not have one, or it was made of wood, which rotted away with time, he will not be listed. Cheers Janet

Wow, what a story... George Pitchford THOMPSON married 1st August 1893/000228 to Lizzie PAYNTER. I would think they were in Eidsvold looking for gold... because my rellies were there, at that time, for that reason. Most of the Burial Index records are only taken from headstones - so if he did not have one, or it was made of wood, which rotted away with time, he will not be listed. Cheers Janet

Hi On 27 January I put a posting on the AUS-QLD list for information re the above couple who were married in Queensland in 1893. I have since found out that they were married in Eidsvold, Qld. They had several kids and then it was found out that George was already married. Then in 1905 Elizabeth (Lizzie) married Herbert Dare, a rellie of mine and had some more kids. Thanks to all who replied to my request for information on George Pitchford THOMPSON but we did not get far. I have now found out George’s correct name was George PITCHFORD. He only added the THOMPSON bit to cover his tracks. He is on the Qld Death Index in 1931. He died on 17 July in Roma, Qld. and is buried there but I cannot find him on a (perhaps incomplete) burial index. He was born in England in 1856. He also married twice in England and served 6 months for bigamy in 1884. I have found him coming out to Australia in 1874 and 1907. He gave his occupation as Master Mariner once. He even brought his first wife out and they lived in Roma and perhaps other places. I have found mention of him on Trove a couple of times in the Roma and other papers. George was also a Freemason in the Grand Lodge of Scotland (1885). Would anyone have any records of the Freemasons? So if anyone is researching George PITCHFORD I would be interested to get some more information on him. Such as what he was doing in Eidsvold when he married PAYNTER in 1905 and also what he was doing in Roma when he died. He had land in the Roma area (Trove). I have found one of his great grandsons in Brisbane and he did not know anything about his great grandfather being a serial bigamist. Cheers Ian Kelly Sandstone Point Qld

Afternoon, Is anyone missing a Mrs Annie EDMONDS? She left Brisbane on the " Omrah ", the ship arrived in London on the 11 Jun 1916. Annie disembarked in Plymouth, she was aged 66, and a widow. Bev

Hi A few days ago I posted a query to the list re the above people. Thank you to all who replied. Below is an edited copy of that posting: ”George married Elizabeth (Lizzie on the index) in Qld on 1/8/1893 and they had 6 children to 1903. She was born in the UK Then, allegedly, it was discovered that George was already married and his marriage to Elizabeth was annulled. Then in 1905 in Rockhampton, Qld, Elizabeth married Herbert DARE (a sort of relation of mine). Elizabeth is PAYNTER on the marriage index.” I have now been told by a grand daughter of Elizabeth & Herbert DARE that George Pitchford THOMPSON and Elizabeth Jane PAYNTER were supposed to have been married at Eidsvold and George’s father was John Pitchford THOMPSON and his mother was Johanna McCARTHY. I have found on the Qld BDM index where a George PITCHFORD died in 1931 and his parents were John PITCHFORD and Johanna McCARTHY. So was George’s name really George PITCHFORD and not George Pitchford THOMPSON? I have found where a George PITCHFORD, aged 17, arrived in Maryborough from London on “St James” on 24 July 1874. Parents are not shown on the the website (State Archives). Perhaps they would be shown on other records if there are any. I note on Trove and also the electoral roll there is a George PITCHFORD in WA. Now I would like to know if anyone has a George PITCHFORD in their family tree or can find out anything on him. Thank you Ian Kelly Sandstone Point Queensland

Thanks, Jenelle. Ian -----Original Message----- From: Jenelle McCarrick Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 12:25 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] George Pitchford THOMPSON & Elizabeth Jane PAYNTER. 2 of mine remarried, didn't get an annulment or divorce, just called themselves widow or widowed on the next marriage.. Jenelle.

Thanks, Kerry. That is interesting. Could have happened in my case also. Ian -----Original Message----- From: Kerry Young Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 12:26 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] George Pitchford THOMPSON & Elizabeth Jane PAYNTER. When my Grandfather married my Grandmother in Townsville in 1889 he was already married to a woman in Sydney. She found out and he was charged with Bigamy. Found guilty and was sentenced to 5 years at St Helena. When his first wife divorced him he was released. He remarried my grandmother in 1893. I have both Certificates and there is nothing on either to indicate that the first marriage was illegal. Regards Kerry (Young) Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When my Grandfather married my Grandmother in Townsville in 1889 he was already married to a woman in Sydney. She found out and he was charged with Bigamy. Found guilty and was sentenced to 5 years at St Helena. When his first wife divorced him he was released. He remarried my grandmother in 1893. I have both Certificates and there is nothing on either to indicate that the first marriage was illegal. Regards Kerry (Young)

2 of mine remarried, didn't get an annulment or divorce, just called themselves widow or widowed on the next marriage.. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian & Margaret Sent: Monday, 27 January 2014 11:43 AM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] George Pitchford THOMPSON & Elizabeth Jane PAYNTER. Thanks Janelle. I have that information. I was wondering if their marriage certificate would show if the marriage was annulled. I cannot find anything on his alleged previous marriage or his death. I don't really want to get the marriage certificate as I am not related to either George or Elizabeth but am hoping one of the rellies of Elizabeth and 2nd husband Herbert Dare will. Cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: Jenelle McCarrick Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 10:58 AM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] George Pitchford THOMPSON & Elizabeth Jane PAYNTER. Ian according to the Australian Marriage Index on ancestry, George Pitchford Thompson married Lizzie Paynter Reg No. 000228 on 1 Aug, 1893. Jenelle. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for that Bev. I have had a look at Trove but did not find any mention of relevant names. Ian -----Original Message----- From: B. Edmonds Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 11:52 AM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] George Pitchford THOMPSON & Elizabeth Jane PAYNTER. Ian, Not sure about Qld, but in England I tried to find evidence of a marriage annulment and came up with nothing. Not a thing in the church registers at all on both my families. Have you tried Trove newspapers, maybe an announcement was made? Although that is a long shot. Bev

Ian, Not sure about Qld, but in England I tried to find evidence of a marriage annulment and came up with nothing. Not a thing in the church registers at all on both my families. Have you tried Trove newspapers, maybe an announcement was made? Although that is a long shot. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ian & Margaret" <imkelly21@bigpond.com> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 11:43 AM To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] George Pitchford THOMPSON & Elizabeth Jane PAYNTER. > Thanks Janelle. I have that information. > > I was wondering if their marriage certificate would show if the marriage > was > annulled. > > I cannot find anything on his alleged previous marriage or his death. > > I don't really want to get the marriage certificate as I am not related to > either George or Elizabeth but am hoping one of the rellies of Elizabeth > and > 2nd husband Herbert Dare will. > > Cheers > Ian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jenelle McCarrick > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 10:58 AM > To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] George Pitchford THOMPSON & Elizabeth Jane PAYNTER. > > Ian according to the Australian Marriage Index on ancestry, George > Pitchford > Thompson married Lizzie Paynter Reg No. 000228 on 1 Aug, 1893. > Jenelle. > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3681/6534 - Release Date: 01/26/14 >

Thanks Janelle. I have that information. I was wondering if their marriage certificate would show if the marriage was annulled. I cannot find anything on his alleged previous marriage or his death. I don't really want to get the marriage certificate as I am not related to either George or Elizabeth but am hoping one of the rellies of Elizabeth and 2nd husband Herbert Dare will. Cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: Jenelle McCarrick Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 10:58 AM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] George Pitchford THOMPSON & Elizabeth Jane PAYNTER. Ian according to the Australian Marriage Index on ancestry, George Pitchford Thompson married Lizzie Paynter Reg No. 000228 on 1 Aug, 1893. Jenelle.

Ian according to the Australian Marriage Index on ancestry, George Pitchford Thompson married Lizzie Paynter Reg No. 000228 on 1 Aug, 1893. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian & Margaret Sent: Monday, 27 January 2014 10:03 AM To: AUS-QLD Subject: [AUS-QLD] George Pitchford THOMPSON & Elizabeth Jane PAYNTER. Hi Would anyone have the above people in their family tree? George married Elizabeth (Lizzie on the index & born in the UK) in Qld on 1/8/1893 and they had 6 children to 1903. The first child was registered as PAYNTER. Then, allegedly, it was discovered that George was already married and his marriage to Elizabeth was annulled. I have not been able to find out what happened to George Pitchford THOMPSON. No death information. No birth information either. Would there be any information on the marriage record if it was annulled? Then in 1905 in Rockhampton, Qld, Elizabeth married Herbert DARE (a sort of relation of mine). Elizabeth is PAYNTER on the marriage index. Herbert and Elizabeth lived in Gladstone and Rockhampton and are buried there. I have found them on the electoral roll and I am in touch with a grand daughter. They had 4 children. I am mainly looking for information on the marriage of George Pitchford THOMPSON and Elizabeth Jane PAYNTER. Thank you Ian Kelly Sandstone Point Queensland Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Would anyone have the above people in their family tree? George married Elizabeth (Lizzie on the index & born in the UK) in Qld on 1/8/1893 and they had 6 children to 1903. The first child was registered as PAYNTER. Then, allegedly, it was discovered that George was already married and his marriage to Elizabeth was annulled. I have not been able to find out what happened to George Pitchford THOMPSON. No death information. No birth information either. Would there be any information on the marriage record if it was annulled? Then in 1905 in Rockhampton, Qld, Elizabeth married Herbert DARE (a sort of relation of mine). Elizabeth is PAYNTER on the marriage index. Herbert and Elizabeth lived in Gladstone and Rockhampton and are buried there. I have found them on the electoral roll and I am in touch with a grand daughter. They had 4 children. I am mainly looking for information on the marriage of George Pitchford THOMPSON and Elizabeth Jane PAYNTER. Thank you Ian Kelly Sandstone Point Queensland

I had a look on Mundia for the women mentioned - most of the names come up except for Maude Wolpitts and Debra Mack, but all in the US. You might look on Mundia for yourself for Ellen Wilhemia Hegstrom - there are two different photos of this woman. Do the photos match the likeness you have? The link might be in the US. Cheers

I have Lizzie Connors in my Family Tree have checked all connecting names that I have a record of but cannot connect any of the other names just thought I would let everyone know Joy Hinz; Connors; The other women: Ellen Hegstrom Debra Mack Isabelle McDonald Amy Waters Maude A. Wolpitts Anna Mathiss [possibly; the handwriting is difficult to decipher] Nellie Spring Kitty Helland I have a Lizzie CONNORS born 30/12/1880 and died Rockhampton 31/1/1937, which means she would be 25 years old if she is the one in the photograph, but I don't recognise any of the other names,