Hello Jan, Thank you for your interest and for your searching. Annie Riley (wife of William; daughter of Christopher Vincent and Annie O'Neil) died in Charters Towers in 1916 - tragic circumstances. At that time she was living with Francis Henry Hicks. William had left her and the children c.1907. I have discounted the Brisbane Rileys. However Myrtle, Vincent William, Christopher George, Victor Henry and Kathleen [my mother born 1907] were the children of the William Riley in question. The sheep stations in western Queensland, "Rose Downs" and "Glen Nevis" were Stainkey properties [my aunt - Myrtle Riley married George Stainkey]. It is important that I obtain more information about the William Riley at Gordon Downs in 1934 and am desperately trying to find more details about the William Riley connected to the 1894 Coongoola Woolshed fire and the subsequent murder of Ernest Henry Martyr at Wallen near Coongoola, on 14 July 1895. This 'William Riley' gave himself up to police c.1907. It is a strong coincidence, however the police reports give very little personal information. If you and the other listers would keep a lookout for any clues I would be truly appreciative. Have a lovely day and thanks again for your interest. Jen -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doug & Jan Sent: 31 March 2014 07:47 To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] William RILEY - Coongoola Woolshed Fire, August 1894. Hi Jen You most likely have all this info 1922 ELECTORAL ROLL several William's and Williams with 2nd name only the two Annie's one living with Arthur in Spring Hill the other in Paddington also with an Arthur or they could have moved... then one Anna living alone in Mackay.. 1934 ELECTORAL ROLL has several William RILEY's one is at Gordon Downs as a Station hand Only one Annie Riley on this roll and she is living with Arthur Riley in Windsor.. the Children Victory Henry was at Craiglands Estate Dumgree Gladstone Labourer Vincent William was at 6 Wilcocks st Hyde Park Townsville.. Sawmill worker Emily Riley at the same Address No Christopher on the index Myrtle was at Glen Nevis Richmond Home duties Husband George was at Rose Downs Richmond shearer also at Rose Downs is Beatrice and William 1949 ELECTORAL ROLL Two just William Rileys One at Grodon Downs Labourer the other at Mt Isa a Rigger. No Just Annie except for Annie with Arthur Vincent William and Emily are still at Hyde Park Townsville Two Victors one at Gympie and one at Hughenden No Christopher George but he did die in Qld in 1981 Myrtle & Hubby George are at Richmond lots of newspaper articles on Myrtle and George.... Victor Henry died in 1974 in Qld... If you havent already got the above info let me know and I wil give you all the addresses.. Jan -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dr Jennifer Lambert Tracey Sent: Sunday, 30 March 2014 5:19 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-QLD] William RILEY - Coongoola Woolshed Fire, August 1894. Hello to the List, Re: William RILEY - Coongoola Woolshed Fire, August 1894. There is a "William RILEY" charged with having burned down the Coongoola woolshed at Cunnamulla in August 1894. This Riley subsequently murdered Ernest Henry Martyr at Wallen near Coongoola, on 14 July 1895. There are many news reports - very repetitive - about the fire and the murder, but nothing that gives any useful information other than that he was working as a shearer in Cunnamulla in 1894 and then in 1907, confessed to the murder and the fire. In 1908 the Supreme Court upheld the conviction and a death sentence imposed, later commuted to life imprisonment ["The Western Champion and General Advertiser for the Central-Western Districts"]. My "William Riley", son of John RILEY and Sarah Florence EDWARDS, literally drops off the planet for about 30+ years from late 1907, just after his daughter Kathleen was born. Riley was working as a stockman in Mitchell, Qld. The family, William and his wife Annie [Vincent] Riley, lived in Bowen Street, Mitchell. Riley was 31 years old in 1907 and I have a Queensland death for him as 15 August 1952. I have also found reference to a "William Riley" working as a station hand on "Gordon Downs", via Clermont, Queensland in 1936. [Qld. Electoral Roll] - so if anyone can claim him as well, it would help greatly in my process of eradication. If anyone has a RILEY line with ties to Queensland, particularly western and north western Queensland, I would appreciate talking to you. My email address is noted below. Kind regards, Jen Dr. Jennifer Lambert Tracey BA (ANU);M.APP.SC.(UC); PhD (UC); MPHA; Archaeologist ~ Historian PO Box 629 Morayfield, Queensland 4506 AUSTRALIA Email: jtracey@heritagearchaeology.com.au Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. 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Hi Jen You most likely have all this info 1922 ELECTORAL ROLL several William's and Williams with 2nd name only the two Annie's one living with Arthur in Spring Hill the other in Paddington also with an Arthur or they could have moved... then one Anna living alone in Mackay.. 1934 ELECTORAL ROLL has several William RILEY's one is at Gordon Downs as a Station hand Only one Annie Riley on this roll and she is living with Arthur Riley in Windsor.. the Children Victory Henry was at Craiglands Estate Dumgree Gladstone Labourer Vincent William was at 6 Wilcocks st Hyde Park Townsville.. Sawmill worker Emily Riley at the same Address No Christopher on the index Myrtle was at Glen Nevis Richmond Home duties Husband George was at Rose Downs Richmond shearer also at Rose Downs is Beatrice and William 1949 ELECTORAL ROLL Two just William Rileys One at Grodon Downs Labourer the other at Mt Isa a Rigger. No Just Annie except for Annie with Arthur Vincent William and Emily are still at Hyde Park Townsville Two Victors one at Gympie and one at Hughenden No Christopher George but he did die in Qld in 1981 Myrtle & Hubby George are at Richmond lots of newspaper articles on Myrtle and George.... Victor Henry died in 1974 in Qld... If you havent already got the above info let me know and I wil give you all the addresses.. Jan -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dr Jennifer Lambert Tracey Sent: Sunday, 30 March 2014 5:19 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-QLD] William RILEY - Coongoola Woolshed Fire, August 1894. Hello to the List, Re: William RILEY - Coongoola Woolshed Fire, August 1894. There is a "William RILEY" charged with having burned down the Coongoola woolshed at Cunnamulla in August 1894. This Riley subsequently murdered Ernest Henry Martyr at Wallen near Coongoola, on 14 July 1895. There are many news reports - very repetitive - about the fire and the murder, but nothing that gives any useful information other than that he was working as a shearer in Cunnamulla in 1894 and then in 1907, confessed to the murder and the fire. In 1908 the Supreme Court upheld the conviction and a death sentence imposed, later commuted to life imprisonment ["The Western Champion and General Advertiser for the Central-Western Districts"]. My "William Riley", son of John RILEY and Sarah Florence EDWARDS, literally drops off the planet for about 30+ years from late 1907, just after his daughter Kathleen was born. Riley was working as a stockman in Mitchell, Qld. The family, William and his wife Annie [Vincent] Riley, lived in Bowen Street, Mitchell. Riley was 31 years old in 1907 and I have a Queensland death for him as 15 August 1952. I have also found reference to a "William Riley" working as a station hand on "Gordon Downs", via Clermont, Queensland in 1936. [Qld. Electoral Roll] - so if anyone can claim him as well, it would help greatly in my process of eradication. If anyone has a RILEY line with ties to Queensland, particularly western and north western Queensland, I would appreciate talking to you. My email address is noted below. Kind regards, Jen Dr. Jennifer Lambert Tracey BA (ANU);M.APP.SC.(UC); PhD (UC); MPHA; Archaeologist ~ Historian PO Box 629 Morayfield, Queensland 4506 AUSTRALIA Email: jtracey@heritagearchaeology.com.au Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7268 - Release Date: 03/29/14

Hello Stephen, This would almost certainly be the name of a person - possibly a 'travelling chemist', rather than reference to a medicine or drug. I did a few quick searches in Trove but nothing obvious as to the presence of such a person around that time. However there are several 'Bauche' families - German origins, on Ancestry, several males with the Christian name, Oscar. Even just doing a general internet search this combination of names comes up with several families now in the USA. So I think you can be fairly sure to go looking for a person. You may also try asking for anyone else who had deaths about that time around Alpha to see if his name is noted on their certificates. Good luck! Jen Dr. Jennifer Lambert Tracey BA(ANU);M.APP.SC.(UC); PhD (UC); MPHA; Archaeologist ~ Historian PO Box 629 Morayfield, Queensland 4506 AUSTRALIA Email: jtracey@heritagearchaeology.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Nicholson Sent: 30 March 2014 20:06 To: AUS-QLD@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-QLD] A strange old medicine? G'day all, I was just going through a handwritten death certificate for a distant relative of mine, David Mulcahy who died 25 DEC 1888 in Alpha. Under the cause of death column is something odd. It firstly says Dysentery, then under that (where the length of illness should go) is written something like: "Oscar Bauche prescribed medicine" The first word is the hardest to read. It is definitely "O??ar" but I could be wrong about the letters where the "??" is. Could it be the name of a person? Had a look for someone of that name around Alpha and found nothing. Has anyone come across some sort of old timey prescribed medicine like that? I can send a snapshot of the actual writing in a private e-mail to anyone who wants a closer look. Thanks ... -- Stephen Nicholson, Wollongong Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes please, I think he was of unsound mind so maybe he spent some time in a sanatorium/hospital. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dr Jennifer Lambert Tracey Sent: Sunday, 30 March 2014 6:32 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] William RILEY - Coongoola Woolshed Fire, August 1894. Hi Jenelle, Many thanks for your response. I would very much like to discount this fellow as being mine, however I guess you have to take the bad [if it comes] with the very, very good! Would you like me to keep you in the loop on this one? Kind regards, Jen -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenelle McCarrick Sent: 30 March 2014 18:11 To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] William RILEY - Coongoola Woolshed Fire, August 1894. Jen, I have the Martyr connection.I chased her information (Ernest's wife) not Riley. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dr Jennifer Lambert Tracey Sent: Sunday, 30 March 2014 5:49 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-QLD] William RILEY - Coongoola Woolshed Fire, August 1894. Hello to the List, Re: William RILEY - Coongoola Woolshed Fire, August 1894. There is a "William RILEY" charged with having burned down the Coongoola woolshed at Cunnamulla in August 1894. This Riley subsequently murdered Ernest Henry Martyr at Wallen near Coongoola, on 14 July 1895. There are many news reports - very repetitive - about the fire and the murder, but nothing that gives any useful information other than that he was working as a shearer in Cunnamulla in 1894 and then in 1907, confessed to the murder and the fire. In 1908 the Supreme Court upheld the conviction and a death sentence imposed, later commuted to life imprisonment ["The Western Champion and General Advertiser for the Central-Western Districts"]. My "William Riley", son of John RILEY and Sarah Florence EDWARDS, literally drops off the planet for about 30+ years from late 1907, just after his daughter Kathleen was born. Riley was working as a stockman in Mitchell, Qld. The family, William and his wife Annie [Vincent] Riley, lived in Bowen Street, Mitchell. Riley was 31 years old in 1907 and I have a Queensland death for him as 15 August 1952. I have also found reference to a "William Riley" working as a station hand on "Gordon Downs", via Clermont, Queensland in 1936. [Qld. Electoral Roll] - so if anyone can claim him as well, it would help greatly in my process of eradication. If anyone has a RILEY line with ties to Queensland, particularly western and north western Queensland, I would appreciate talking to you. My email address is noted below. Kind regards, Jen Dr. Jennifer Lambert Tracey BA (ANU);M.APP.SC.(UC); PhD (UC); MPHA; Archaeologist ~ Historian PO Box 629 Morayfield, Queensland 4506 AUSTRALIA Email: jtracey@heritagearchaeology.com.au Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

G'day all, I was just going through a handwritten death certificate for a distant relative of mine, David Mulcahy who died 25 DEC 1888 in Alpha. Under the cause of death column is something odd. It firstly says Dysentery, then under that (where the length of illness should go) is written something like: "Oscar Bauche prescribed medicine" The first word is the hardest to read. It is definitely "O??ar" but I could be wrong about the letters where the "??" is. Could it be the name of a person? Had a look for someone of that name around Alpha and found nothing. Has anyone come across some sort of old timey prescribed medicine like that? I can send a snapshot of the actual writing in a private e-mail to anyone who wants a closer look. Thanks ... -- Stephen Nicholson, Wollongong

Hi Jenelle, Many thanks for your response. I would very much like to discount this fellow as being mine, however I guess you have to take the bad [if it comes] with the very, very good! Would you like me to keep you in the loop on this one? Kind regards, Jen -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenelle McCarrick Sent: 30 March 2014 18:11 To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] William RILEY - Coongoola Woolshed Fire, August 1894. Jen, I have the Martyr connection.I chased her information (Ernest's wife) not Riley. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dr Jennifer Lambert Tracey Sent: Sunday, 30 March 2014 5:49 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-QLD] William RILEY - Coongoola Woolshed Fire, August 1894. Hello to the List, Re: William RILEY - Coongoola Woolshed Fire, August 1894. There is a "William RILEY" charged with having burned down the Coongoola woolshed at Cunnamulla in August 1894. This Riley subsequently murdered Ernest Henry Martyr at Wallen near Coongoola, on 14 July 1895. There are many news reports - very repetitive - about the fire and the murder, but nothing that gives any useful information other than that he was working as a shearer in Cunnamulla in 1894 and then in 1907, confessed to the murder and the fire. In 1908 the Supreme Court upheld the conviction and a death sentence imposed, later commuted to life imprisonment ["The Western Champion and General Advertiser for the Central-Western Districts"]. My "William Riley", son of John RILEY and Sarah Florence EDWARDS, literally drops off the planet for about 30+ years from late 1907, just after his daughter Kathleen was born. Riley was working as a stockman in Mitchell, Qld. The family, William and his wife Annie [Vincent] Riley, lived in Bowen Street, Mitchell. Riley was 31 years old in 1907 and I have a Queensland death for him as 15 August 1952. I have also found reference to a "William Riley" working as a station hand on "Gordon Downs", via Clermont, Queensland in 1936. [Qld. Electoral Roll] - so if anyone can claim him as well, it would help greatly in my process of eradication. If anyone has a RILEY line with ties to Queensland, particularly western and north western Queensland, I would appreciate talking to you. My email address is noted below. Kind regards, Jen Dr. Jennifer Lambert Tracey BA (ANU);M.APP.SC.(UC); PhD (UC); MPHA; Archaeologist ~ Historian PO Box 629 Morayfield, Queensland 4506 AUSTRALIA Email: jtracey@heritagearchaeology.com.au Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jen, I have the Martyr connection.I chased her information (Ernest's wife) not Riley. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dr Jennifer Lambert Tracey Sent: Sunday, 30 March 2014 5:49 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-QLD] William RILEY - Coongoola Woolshed Fire, August 1894. Hello to the List, Re: William RILEY - Coongoola Woolshed Fire, August 1894. There is a "William RILEY" charged with having burned down the Coongoola woolshed at Cunnamulla in August 1894. This Riley subsequently murdered Ernest Henry Martyr at Wallen near Coongoola, on 14 July 1895. There are many news reports - very repetitive - about the fire and the murder, but nothing that gives any useful information other than that he was working as a shearer in Cunnamulla in 1894 and then in 1907, confessed to the murder and the fire. In 1908 the Supreme Court upheld the conviction and a death sentence imposed, later commuted to life imprisonment ["The Western Champion and General Advertiser for the Central-Western Districts"]. My "William Riley", son of John RILEY and Sarah Florence EDWARDS, literally drops off the planet for about 30+ years from late 1907, just after his daughter Kathleen was born. Riley was working as a stockman in Mitchell, Qld. The family, William and his wife Annie [Vincent] Riley, lived in Bowen Street, Mitchell. Riley was 31 years old in 1907 and I have a Queensland death for him as 15 August 1952. I have also found reference to a "William Riley" working as a station hand on "Gordon Downs", via Clermont, Queensland in 1936. [Qld. Electoral Roll] - so if anyone can claim him as well, it would help greatly in my process of eradication. If anyone has a RILEY line with ties to Queensland, particularly western and north western Queensland, I would appreciate talking to you. My email address is noted below. Kind regards, Jen Dr. Jennifer Lambert Tracey BA (ANU);M.APP.SC.(UC); PhD (UC); MPHA; Archaeologist ~ Historian PO Box 629 Morayfield, Queensland 4506 AUSTRALIA Email: jtracey@heritagearchaeology.com.au Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello to the List, Re: William RILEY - Coongoola Woolshed Fire, August 1894. There is a "William RILEY" charged with having burned down the Coongoola woolshed at Cunnamulla in August 1894. This Riley subsequently murdered Ernest Henry Martyr at Wallen near Coongoola, on 14 July 1895. There are many news reports - very repetitive - about the fire and the murder, but nothing that gives any useful information other than that he was working as a shearer in Cunnamulla in 1894 and then in 1907, confessed to the murder and the fire. In 1908 the Supreme Court upheld the conviction and a death sentence imposed, later commuted to life imprisonment ["The Western Champion and General Advertiser for the Central-Western Districts"]. My "William Riley", son of John RILEY and Sarah Florence EDWARDS, literally drops off the planet for about 30+ years from late 1907, just after his daughter Kathleen was born. Riley was working as a stockman in Mitchell, Qld. The family, William and his wife Annie [Vincent] Riley, lived in Bowen Street, Mitchell. Riley was 31 years old in 1907 and I have a Queensland death for him as 15 August 1952. I have also found reference to a "William Riley" working as a station hand on "Gordon Downs", via Clermont, Queensland in 1936. [Qld. Electoral Roll] - so if anyone can claim him as well, it would help greatly in my process of eradication. If anyone has a RILEY line with ties to Queensland, particularly western and north western Queensland, I would appreciate talking to you. My email address is noted below. Kind regards, Jen Dr. Jennifer Lambert Tracey BA (ANU);M.APP.SC.(UC); PhD (UC); MPHA; Archaeologist ~ Historian PO Box 629 Morayfield, Queensland 4506 AUSTRALIA Email: jtracey@heritagearchaeology.com.au

Thank you for your kind words Marg. I try. <grin> -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marg Andrews Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2014 12:15 AM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Where is Paradise in Queensland? Thank you all Your suggestions for getting better phone results is an excellent one Wynette. A fly in the ointment with phone numbers these days is that many people are ditching their landline in favour of smart phones. I do notice that some mobile numbers are listed. Just a thought. Marg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme & Wynnette Ford" <graycoin@tadaust.org.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Where is Paradise in Queensland? Thank you all > Hi Robert, > > I'm sorry you had no luck, but may I ask a couple of questions? > > Firstly, did you do a very specific search? It sounds like you did. > > A more general search may bring a better result, depending on how common > the > surname is. > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7264 - Release Date: 03/28/14

Hello Robert, Just a thought, but have you considered the people you were in touch with in 2003 may have passed on. Have you tried looking at the Ryerson Index? Regards Alma -----Original Message----- From: Robert N. G. KEMSLEY Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:28 AM To: kraymond@iprimus.com.au ; aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Where is Paradise in Queensland? Re: Where is Paradise in Queensland? Thank you all for responding to my posting. Kerry: You ask to be more pacific: It was in Sep 2003 whilst they were living in the Bundaberg/1770 area; that in an e-mail to us; the following was mentioned: " he is going to live with us up at paradise when we leave here but already is going to go up for short periods of time for a break away" This would indicate to me that it's up North of the Bundaberg area? Robert

Your suggestions for getting better phone results is an excellent one Wynette. A fly in the ointment with phone numbers these days is that many people are ditching their landline in favour of smart phones. I do notice that some mobile numbers are listed. Just a thought. Marg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme & Wynnette Ford" <graycoin@tadaust.org.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Where is Paradise in Queensland? Thank you all > Hi Robert, > > I'm sorry you had no luck, but may I ask a couple of questions? > > Firstly, did you do a very specific search? It sounds like you did. > > A more general search may bring a better result, depending on how common > the > surname is. > > To test my theory, in case something on the site had changed, I just went > in > to the white pages and then chose Queensland. > > That brought up a page where it gave you a choice of name, initial, > location > and postcode. > > I used my former married name of Blanchard as a point of reference as it > is > not a highly common surname here. > > So I typed in "Blanchard" ONLY with no initials. Then in location, I > typed > Queensland ONLY. > > No town, no post code and no Christian name initials. This gave me an > excellent result. > > It did give me about seven pages with 62 results but they are very easy to > search as they are in alphabetical order. > > I now come to the point as to WHY you should perhaps search in this > manner. > > I presume you would be aware that northern Queensland, especially, has > been > hard hit by several extremely severe weather events in the past ten years. > > One of these catastrophic events may have forced your relatives to move > again, perhaps even more than once. > > So many houses were destroyed, especially up north. Having, or not > having, > house insurance - and - whether the insurance company paid out, would be a > major factor. > > My own son's house at Ipswich flooded to the ceilings in one of these > events. He and his family were one of the lucky ones, they were able to > move back in a bit over a year later. Almost exactly one year later > again, > his house was once more threatened, but luckily the river stopped just > below > their back fence this time. > > Several thousands of other families have not been so lucky. > > Also, one of the reasons I recommend NOT putting in initials, is because > of > unexpected family events that may have happened in that 10 year period. > > In the worst case scenario, someone may have died, another possibility, is > that a couple may have parted company. > > If this search does not bring results, you may have to start searching > state > by state. > > We have heard of families, in northern Queensland especially, being > devastated by more than one of these series of weather events; and having > had just one too many traumatic events happen in too few years, have > decided > to move completely away to a state where cyclones are unheard of and > floods > are uncommon. > > And one last silly question, did you try a straight out Google search for > any of their names? Including using diminutives (i.e. Bob or Rob for > Robert) or their personal nick-names? > > They could have been mentioned in a sporting or social event, an accident > etc. That could bring up an online reference to a newspaper report. > > I hope this helps a little and I wish you luck in your search, > > Regards, > > Wynnette. > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Robert N. G. KEMSLEY > Sent: Friday, 28 March 2014 8:24 PM > To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Where is Paradise in Queensland? Thank you all > > Good evening Wynnette: > > I've tried your suggestion and unfortunately; they either don't have > a Land Line or are not in the area searched for? > > Paradise was mentioned back in 2003. > Recently: I was seeking to find rellies in the Bundaberg - 1770 area > and then looked for them in Paradise and not finding such a locality; > posted > my query to the list. > Paradise could be as suggested; not a place as such, but an area and > if such is the case; where should I be looking? > > Robert > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi Robert, I'm sorry you had no luck, but may I ask a couple of questions? Firstly, did you do a very specific search? It sounds like you did. A more general search may bring a better result, depending on how common the surname is. To test my theory, in case something on the site had changed, I just went in to the white pages and then chose Queensland. That brought up a page where it gave you a choice of name, initial, location and postcode. I used my former married name of Blanchard as a point of reference as it is not a highly common surname here. So I typed in "Blanchard" ONLY with no initials. Then in location, I typed Queensland ONLY. No town, no post code and no Christian name initials. This gave me an excellent result. It did give me about seven pages with 62 results but they are very easy to search as they are in alphabetical order. I now come to the point as to WHY you should perhaps search in this manner. I presume you would be aware that northern Queensland, especially, has been hard hit by several extremely severe weather events in the past ten years. One of these catastrophic events may have forced your relatives to move again, perhaps even more than once. So many houses were destroyed, especially up north. Having, or not having, house insurance - and - whether the insurance company paid out, would be a major factor. My own son's house at Ipswich flooded to the ceilings in one of these events. He and his family were one of the lucky ones, they were able to move back in a bit over a year later. Almost exactly one year later again, his house was once more threatened, but luckily the river stopped just below their back fence this time. Several thousands of other families have not been so lucky. Also, one of the reasons I recommend NOT putting in initials, is because of unexpected family events that may have happened in that 10 year period. In the worst case scenario, someone may have died, another possibility, is that a couple may have parted company. If this search does not bring results, you may have to start searching state by state. We have heard of families, in northern Queensland especially, being devastated by more than one of these series of weather events; and having had just one too many traumatic events happen in too few years, have decided to move completely away to a state where cyclones are unheard of and floods are uncommon. And one last silly question, did you try a straight out Google search for any of their names? Including using diminutives (i.e. Bob or Rob for Robert) or their personal nick-names? They could have been mentioned in a sporting or social event, an accident etc. That could bring up an online reference to a newspaper report. I hope this helps a little and I wish you luck in your search, Regards, Wynnette. -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert N. G. KEMSLEY Sent: Friday, 28 March 2014 8:24 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Where is Paradise in Queensland? Thank you all Good evening Wynnette: I've tried your suggestion and unfortunately; they either don't have a Land Line or are not in the area searched for? Paradise was mentioned back in 2003. Recently: I was seeking to find rellies in the Bundaberg - 1770 area and then looked for them in Paradise and not finding such a locality; posted my query to the list. Paradise could be as suggested; not a place as such, but an area and if such is the case; where should I be looking? Robert Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7258 - Release Date: 03/27/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7258 - Release Date: 03/27/14

Hello Robert, If you google Burnett River, then select the Wikipedia site you may get some answers as to what has happened since 2003. The Paradise Dam which was completed in 2005, was named after the old goldmining town of Paradise. Paradise is now submerged under the Reservoir. If you click on Paradise in the article you will find out about the old ghost town. Regards Alma -----Original Message----- From: Robert N. G. KEMSLEY Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 8:23 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Where is Paradise in Queensland? Thank you all Good evening Wynnette: I've tried your suggestion and unfortunately; they either don't have a Land Line or are not in the area searched for? Paradise was mentioned back in 2003. Recently: I was seeking to find rellies in the Bundaberg - 1770 area and then looked for them in Paradise and not finding such a locality; posted my query to the list. Paradise could be as suggested; not a place as such, but an area and if such is the case; where should I be looking? Robert Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good evening Wynnette: I've tried your suggestion and unfortunately; they either don't have a Land Line or are not in the area searched for? Paradise was mentioned back in 2003. Recently: I was seeking to find rellies in the Bundaberg - 1770 area and then looked for them in Paradise and not finding such a locality; posted my query to the list. Paradise could be as suggested; not a place as such, but an area and if such is the case; where should I be looking? Robert

Thank you, Kerry, for the explanation! I appreciate it very much!! Gail -----Original Message----- From: Kerry Raymond [mailto:kraymond@iprimus.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:41 AM To: 'Gail Barbitta'; aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [AUS-QLD] Staff Records for Dunwich Benevolent Asylum The catalogue records what they hold, regardless of whether they have it available online. If you look at any particular item's entry in their catalogue, you will see a field called "has digital images". If that is ticked, then it's available online. If not, it's not. When you search their catalogue, if you use the "Image Queensland" search rather than the "Archives Search", it will restrict the returned results to those that are available online, which saves you wading through items that you can't access. But be aware that most records are not digitised. They are working slowly on digitisation based on what records are most popular, e.g. immigration records. So it is probably worth knowing what is available at the archives, even if you can't immediately access it. Kerry -----Original Message----- From: Gail Barbitta [mailto:gbarbitta3@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2014 10:00 AM To: kraymond@iprimus.com.au; aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [AUS-QLD] Staff Records for Dunwich Benevolent Asylum Both of my gt gt grandparents were patients in Dunwich in the early 1900's. When I've gone to this website, I only find titles of records and that's all. Are the records actually searchable online? I'm interested in anything about these two people, one of whom died there and is buried in an unmarked grave. Gail -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Raymond Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 2:31 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Staff Records for Dunwich Benevolent Asylum This link should take you to the list of holdings for Dunwich Benevolent Asylum (the "agency" in the language of the Queensland State Archives): http://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/Search/AgencyDetails.aspx?AgencyId=861 This is a list of "series" (again using QSA-speak). One of them is Personnel Files http://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/Search/SeriesDetails.aspx?SeriesId=4485 >From there you can click on the List of Items: http://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/Search/ItemSearchResults.aspx?SeriesId= 4485&SeriesTitle=Personnel%20File which reveals only one entry for Charles Stanley Keen. So if this happens to be one of your family, you are in luck! Otherwise, no joy. Kerry

Hi Robert, I can't help but think that it wasn't a town as such but the description of a place that the family regarded as 'paradise' especially since in the wording from your relative the word paradise began with a lowercase 'p'. In 1993 my husband and kids visited the 'Town of 1770' (if you could call it such back then - it was a village if that). It was very remote and a long gravel hazardous road in off the main Hwy but very beautiful and an untouched natural environment on the water - we were all thought of it as 'paradise'. I think that Paul Hogan's mate John Cornell "Strop" from the "Paul Hogan Show" purchased a huge chunk of 1770. It is very expensive now (wish we had have had $$$ back then and some foresight - haha!) 1770 and Agnes Waters are the waters of the Southern Great Barrier Reef... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1770,_Queensland http://townof1770-agneswater.com.au/local-guide/66-history-and-heritage 1770 is in the Miriam Vale Shire Council Phone (07) 4974 6222 - I wonder if they would have access to your loved ones? Or even the Miriam Vale Shire Historical Society Museum Address: Springs Rd, Agnes Water Qld Phone: 07 4974 9511 Open Monday to Saturday (excl. Tues) 1pm-4pm and Sunday 10am-4pm. You never know: in a Small town/area people know people? You could write to them at http://www.agfg.com.au/guide/qld/capricorn-coast/gladstone-surrounds/agnes-w ater/attractions-tourism/miriam-vale-shire-historical-society-museum Robert I had a look for person's of the same surname to yours and found [J Kemsley at 50 Morning Glory Dr, Cooroibah QLD 4565 PH 0418 913 953 (Cooroibah is near Noosa). Or closer to Brisbane a S Kemsley 32 Leslie St, Nundah QLD 4012 PH (07) 3630 4778 Maybe they could be of some help to you locating family? There were 5 Kemsley' online in the Whitepages http://www.whitepages.com.au/searchRes.action?name=kemsley <http://www.whitepages.com.au/searchRes.action?name=kemsley&location=Nundah% 2C%20QLD%204012&initial> &location=Nundah%2C%20QLD%204012&initial= (One Kemsley lives in Cleveland where I reside if you want me to phone them with questions for you I am happy to try). I wish you all the best and a speedy successful search. Cheers, Debbie -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert N. G. KEMSLEY Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2014 11:07 AM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Where is Paradise in Queensland? Good afternoon Debbie: Thinking of what you say; I've now a feeling that wherever it is; it cannot be to far up from Bundaberg area, as the "Chap" that was going to live with the family was mentioned as; " he is going to live with us up at paradise when we leave here but already is going to go up for short periods of time for a break away" I've the feeling now that Paradise could be the name of their property or farm inland from the Bundaberg area? It looks as if I shall never know until I can again make contact with the family, which just isn't happening. Many thanks to all. Regards; Robert I don't know if this "Paradise" town (see links) could be what the family was referring to? You said they said they were going "up" to Paradise from Bundaberg not down so I presume they didn't mean Surfers Paradise or Paradise Point both on the Gold Coast. One could assume then it was the old gold mining town; "Paradise" which is in the same area. I suppose the other thought if this doesn't help is that they were referring to a place further up that could be described as 'paradise' however you are using a capital "P" thus presume it is an actual place. Hope that's of some help - this is my first post; Hi everyone! Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to <mailto:AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com> AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paradise Dam was officially named in December,2005. Paradise is more an area, than a town, now. The cemetery only had two headstones, that I could see, and they are on private property, with a couple of horses guarding them ;) -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert N. G. KEMSLEY Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2014 7:54 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Where is Paradise in Queensland? Thank you all Thank you all who responded to my request for the location of Paradise. It would seem that it may not be a location as such in 2003 was it was mentioned. I will have to persist and see if I can locate the rellie and confirm. Regards: Robert Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Robert, I've come into this conversation late. Not sure where you are writing from, inside or outside Australia. If you are outside Australia, would your relatives have an ordinary landline telephone? If so, they should be in the Australian White Pages online and you can look for them there under their surname and state. http://www.whitepages.com.au/ Regards, Wynnette. -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert N. G. KEMSLEY Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2014 7:54 PM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Where is Paradise in Queensland? Thank you all Thank you all who responded to my request for the location of Paradise. It would seem that it may not be a location as such in 2003 was it was mentioned. I will have to persist and see if I can locate the rellie and confirm. Regards: Robert Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7253 - Release Date: 03/26/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7253 - Release Date: 03/26/14

Thank you all who responded to my request for the location of Paradise. It would seem that it may not be a location as such in 2003 was it was mentioned. I will have to persist and see if I can locate the rellie and confirm. Regards: Robert

First, yes, I haven't snipped, because I think it is a condensed version of the thread ;) My Uncle, and now his daughter live about 3 kms from the Township that used to be Paradise. It has been a Dam for about 5 - 10 years, (blamed for a lot of the flooding to Bundaberg in the 2011 - 12 horrific floods) and is actually "up" from Bundaberg, as in it is "up" the Burnett River, closer to the start of it. I used to live in Bundaberg, so know the area well. I have quite a few photos of the many plaques they have around the Dam, and also the closed Mine shaft. I think I have a photo of that, too. Cheers, Deb. -----Original Message----- From: aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-qld-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert N. G. KEMSLEY Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2014 11:07 AM To: aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-QLD] Where is Paradise in Queensland? Good afternoon Debbie: Thinking of what you say; I've now a feeling that wherever it is; it cannot be to far up from Bundaberg area, as the "Chap" that was going to live with the family was mentioned as; " he is going to live with us up at paradise when we leave here but already is going to go up for short periods of time for a break away" I've the feeling now that Paradise could be the name of their property or farm inland from the Bundaberg area? It looks as if I shall never know until I can again make contact with the family, which just isn't happening. Many thanks to all. Regards; Robert I don't know if this "Paradise" town (see links) could be what the family was referring to? You said they said they were going "up" to Paradise from Bundaberg not down so I presume they didn't mean Surfers Paradise or Paradise Point both on the Gold Coast. One could assume then it was the old gold mining town; "Paradise" which is in the same area. I suppose the other thought if this doesn't help is that they were referring to a place further up that could be described as 'paradise' however you are using a capital "P" thus presume it is an actual place. Hope that's of some help - this is my first post; Hi everyone! Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-QLD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message